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Merivel Mar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:31:00 -
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I didn't read this crap but I have a question... Ever seen The Mattani Naked? |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:32:00 -
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Merivel Mar wrote:I didn't read this crap but I have a question... Ever seen The Mattani Naked? If I did it would be on youtube. :P
Borsek wrote:What are you OP, some kind of EvE Breivik? Stick your manifestos where the sun don't shine, you backwards inbred lunatic. Spewing random insults at a well written post without offering any counterpoint or actual opinion of your own doesn't make him look like an inbred lunatic. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
120
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:34:00 -
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Corbin Blair wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Maybe I'm misreading the intent of the question then. What I'm seeing is a question of "If my primary activities are not PvP, am I welcome by people who live in PvP space?" This is considerably different from asking, "I'm new, can I PvP with you guys?"
I read it as more like "I'm mainly interested in PvE, but am willing to learn to PvP with you guys too if you'll teach me." It did specifically say that he was willing to learn PvP. Willingness to learn PvP on some level would be necessary in both situations. Both should be willing, in the case of null, to join HD fleets and CTA's to contribute, but what about the guy that would rather scan for cosmic sigs than go on a roam? |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Acquisition Of Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:38:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Fuujin wrote:
And if the argument is "4 people shouldn't be able to kill my one guy" then...I have no words to adequately describe that level of callow bleating.
I'd be more annoyed at the fact that 4 people can kill one guy, and his 3(or 6, or 16) friends can't do anything about it.
Can't? More like won't. Go gank the gankers, that's doing something about it. Learn to fly and fit a destroyer. There's nothing except your own apathy preventing you from taking action and fighting back.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:41:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote:Takseen wrote:Fuujin wrote:
And if the argument is "4 people shouldn't be able to kill my one guy" then...I have no words to adequately describe that level of callow bleating.
I'd be more annoyed at the fact that 4 people can kill one guy, and his 3(or 6, or 16) friends can't do anything about it. Can't? More like won't. Go gank the gankers, that's doing something about it. Learn to fly and fit a destroyer. There's nothing except your own apathy preventing you from taking action and fighting back.
Suicide gank destroyers in destroyers? When the targets are likely to be experienced combat vets or disposable alts? And as you've admitted, there's no way to pre-empt the gank, and Concord already provides immediate retaliation. |
Jonah Gravenstein
228
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:42:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Maybe I'm misreading the intent of the question then. What I'm seeing is a question of "If my primary activities are not PvP, am I welcome by people who live in PvP space?" This is considerably different from asking, "I'm new, can I PvP with you guys?"
You have the original intent bang on, my primary activities are PVE, I can fly most T1 stuff up to battleship (some of it badly but meh)
I fit my ships for PVE, they don't last long in a PVP enviroment, I know this through losing ships to roving gangs in WH's.
Non one sided PVP would be an experience I'm sure.
I see a lot of biatching about how all hisec dwellers are carebears and thus are useless wastes of DNA, but the moment we try to improve ourselves and involve ourselves in other aspects of the game we're laughed at and told to GTFO or GBTW. It doesn't matter if you PVP or PVE in hisec you're deemed to be scum and not worthy of trying to expand your horizons.
Some of us want to expand our horizons, we'd like to get involved in the politics, wars, landgrabs and all the other goodies in lo and null, but we're not welcome and until this changes there is always going to be a massive divide between hisec and everywhere else.
I along with no doubt many others are totally willing to pull our weight in PvP, sacrifice ourselves to get tackle, go out in a blaze of glory and all that, but we not even deemed worthy of that in most cases.
Sometimes I wish that when I started to play I'd gone straight to lo/null sec and learnt to die in style, unfortunately the first experience many players have of these areas is one sided PVP where they get Instagibbed. The tutorials don't encourage the PVP lifestyle, as far as many are concerned PvE is the game, because they don't know any better. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
492
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:52:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sometimes I wish that when I started to play I'd gone straight to lo/null sec and learnt to die in style, unfortunately the first experience many players have of these areas is one sided PVP where they get Instagibbed. The tutorials don't encourage the PVP lifestyle, as far as many are concerned PvE is the game, because they don't know any better. Yep! Well I haven't been blown up in a rifter by a glancing blow from an Avatar, but you know how things are ~
There are serious legitimate issues with spys in nullsec, among other things. Definitely though, the "extra-EVE" communities have an advantage of a sort over the recruitment channel/forum "community". Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Velicitia
Open Designs
891
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:54:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Going back to a post I made earlier about how I would love to move my PVE operations to lo/null, are there actually any corps/alliances based in these areas that would welcome a PVE player who wants to continue with PVE, has no experience of PVP but would be willing to learn even if it's only as cannon fodder/hero tackle? Or am I still a worthless pubbie who deserves to die in a fire?
Yes
Yes (if you're asking a Goon)
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Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Acquisition Of Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:56:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote:Takseen wrote:Fuujin wrote:
And if the argument is "4 people shouldn't be able to kill my one guy" then...I have no words to adequately describe that level of callow bleating.
I'd be more annoyed at the fact that 4 people can kill one guy, and his 3(or 6, or 16) friends can't do anything about it. Can't? More like won't. Go gank the gankers, that's doing something about it. Learn to fly and fit a destroyer. There's nothing except your own apathy preventing you from taking action and fighting back. Suicide gank destroyers in destroyers? When the targets are likely to be experienced combat vets or disposable alts? And as you've admitted, there's no way to pre-empt the gank, and Concord already provides immediate retaliation.
Even trying to fight back will win you some respect. The point isn't to prevent the gank or to retaliate, the point is to show some goddamn backbone and punch someone in the face for f--king with you. |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:59:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote: Even trying to fight back will win you some respect. The point isn't to prevent the gank or to retaliate, the point is to show some goddamn backbone and punch someone in the face for f--king with you.
Can't prevent the gank and can't retaliate, but can get "respect" from goons. Sounds great!
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
249
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:59:00 -
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Borsek wrote:What are you OP, some kind of EvE Breivik? Stick your manifestos where the sun don't shine, you backwards inbred lunatic.
I like how you compare someone writing words about a video game to an unapologetic child killer and terrorist. If anyone here has issues it is you. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Jonah Gravenstein
228
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Yep! Well I haven't been blown up in a rifter by a glancing blow from an Avatar, but you know how things are ~
There are serious legitimate issues with spys in nullsec, among other things. Definitely though, the "extra-EVE" communities have an advantage of a sort over the recruitment channel/forum "community".
I completely understand the issues with spies and corp thefts in null alliances, security is obviously a risk and TBH anybody that gives a newish member of their corp hangar and POS access totally deserves to be robbed blind.
My other char on this account is an ex wormhole dweller who was in a small 12 man corp, the CEO of the corp no longer plays but when he did, myself and him were the only 2 consistent members of that corp, even though I'd been with the corp since its inception it was only in the run up to us closing down operations that I got POS access etc.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Runar Hawk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:02:00 -
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Borsek wrote:What are you OP, some kind of EvE Breivik? Stick your manifestos where the sun don't shine, you backwards inbred lunatic.
yeah, this |
Marvin
Galactic Special Forces
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:15:00 -
[494] - Quote
Borsek wrote:What are you OP, some kind of EvE Breivik? Stick your manifestos where the sun don't shine, you backwards inbred lunatic. This...
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Broken Thoughts
ZERO T0LERANCE RAZOR Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:28:00 -
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james315 = instalike bookmarked for a nice read tomorrow |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Acquisition Of Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:40:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote: Even trying to fight back will win you some respect. The point isn't to prevent the gank or to retaliate, the point is to show some goddamn backbone and punch someone in the face for f--king with you.
Can't prevent the gank and can't retaliate, but can get "respect" from goons. Sounds great!
You're missing the point. Not all gankers are goons. If you fight back, they might actually respect you enough that they'll take you seriously when you tell them you want to be left alone - or that you want to break into nullsec and learn to PVP.
Risk and reward, pal - nothing ventured, nothing gained. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
141
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:45:00 -
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You do realize the most impacting speeches were the shorted right? the human attention span isn't that long, no matter who you are, so in the end even open minded people like me really read nothing.
The Gettysburg Address-Lincoln
Pretty much most of winston churchill speeches too. |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:46:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote: You're missing the point. Not all gankers are goons. If you fight back, they might actually respect you enough that they'll take you seriously when you tell them you want to be left alone - or that you want to break into nullsec and learn to PVP.
Risk and reward, pal - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
>There's nothing you can do to prevent a gank or retaliate against the gankers, but if you put on a good show, they might take pity on you and let you join their cool club.
Is that about it? |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
249
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:59:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:You do realize the most impacting speeches were the shorted right? the human attention span isn't that long, no matter who you are, so in the end even open minded people like me really read nothing.
The Gettysburg Address-Lincoln
Pretty much most of winston churchill speeches too.
It isn't a speech. Why not just admit that you really don't have a firm grasp of the written language? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:27:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote:Takseen wrote:Fuujin wrote:
And if the argument is "4 people shouldn't be able to kill my one guy" then...I have no words to adequately describe that level of callow bleating.
I'd be more annoyed at the fact that 4 people can kill one guy, and his 3(or 6, or 16) friends can't do anything about it. Can't? More like won't. Go gank the gankers, that's doing something about it. Learn to fly and fit a destroyer. There's nothing except your own apathy preventing you from taking action and fighting back. Suicide gank destroyers in destroyers? When the targets are likely to be experienced combat vets or disposable alts? And as you've admitted, there's no way to pre-empt the gank, and Concord already provides immediate retaliation.
see its called trolling....
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:38:00 -
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What are you supposed to be anyway, my good twin? |
Brisco County
The Shadow Plague
37
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:47:00 -
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I'd complain about the length of this post, but I have a fully functional brain capable of reading things that are longer than one page. |
Marvin
Galactic Special Forces
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:49:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote:Takseen wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote: Even trying to fight back will win you some respect. The point isn't to prevent the gank or to retaliate, the point is to show some goddamn backbone and punch someone in the face for f--king with you.
Can't prevent the gank and can't retaliate, but can get "respect" from goons. Sounds great! You're missing the point. Not all gankers are goons. If you fight back, they might actually respect you enough that they'll take you seriously when you tell them you want to be left alone - or that you want to break into nullsec and learn to PVP. Risk and reward, pal - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
bullshit....**** in...**** out...:)
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:30:00 -
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Corbin Blair wrote: I really doubt anyone would mind you mining in your free time. I think they were just worried that when space needed defending you wouldn't help out. If you're a miner who doesn't mind doing some PvP when the alliance needs it I don't see why they wouldn't want you.
I too would want a goat I can sacrifice whenever I want and who has to pay me for the privileged of getting up at 1 AM to lose all his mining income being designated target.
And his buddies can be designated target to! |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:36:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Corbin Blair wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Maybe I'm misreading the intent of the question then. What I'm seeing is a question of "If my primary activities are not PvP, am I welcome by people who live in PvP space?" This is considerably different from asking, "I'm new, can I PvP with you guys?"
I read it as more like "I'm mainly interested in PvE, but am willing to learn to PvP with you guys too if you'll teach me." It did specifically say that he was willing to learn PvP. Willingness to learn PvP on some level would be necessary in both situations. Both should be willing, in the case of null, to join HD fleets and CTA's to contribute, but what about the guy that would rather scan for cosmic sigs than go on a roam?
No he should not.
You see there is this thing called "good faith". Idiots assume it.
Forced PvP is easily forced billions and billions of losses if the "bosses" don't like you. Cause you is care bear.
Everyone knows that and not one person here is even going to pretend that isn't the case. |
Diablo Ex
Pro Synergy
10
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:59:00 -
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You just can't fix STUPID PRO SYNERGY - We salvage and process the loot, and pay YOU for it. Proven methodology, quick payout, great attitude. We'll do the hard work, you just keep missioning!!!-á - join game channel "Pro Synergy" for details. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
142
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:01:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:
It isn't a speech. Why not just admit that you really don't have a firm grasp of the written language?
I have a fairly comprehensive grasp of the english language, probably better than most. Manifesto is just a speech on paper. Point still stands it was alot of word without meaning because no clear statement can be derived from it. |
ATTAKowl
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
6
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:31:00 -
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I took a shot of whiskey every time the OP typed the word 'carebears' and now very drunkenly salute his outlook on the state of Eve! Long live PVP in EVERY region! |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:41:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:You just can't fix STUPID
Man I with you could tho for the sake of these forums
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1291
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Posted - 2012.04.28 05:49:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:Methinks that level of butt-hurt hatred has to be caused by a miner stealing his girlfriend/wife.
I suspect that James 315 is a sock puppet of The Mittani, spewing forth anti-miner rhetoric in an attempt to drive the destruction of Hulks, and thus drive the demand for Technetium GÇö which as it so happens is a resource that CFC has access to and control of. In the Internet Spaceships world of politics, the OP is basically agitprop.
Shills and dills.
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