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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:05:00 -
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The fight has begun and whatever happens, it cannot be stopped.
Blind trust in governments is at an all-time low.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Nyu Shin
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:11:00 -
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U.S. to Host World Press Freedom Day in 2011
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Baneken
Gallente School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue Or the USA will use its economic leverage to coerce Sweeden to get to Assange. Something along the lines of creating a disadvantage to Sweeden though a trade deal. With one hand the USA giveth and with the other hand taketh.
Economic leverage in this case will be "we buy your crappy fighters that you swedes are so hot about and you keep that guy there long enough to get shot while being released so you guys can waste years of finding the perpetrator just like in the cases of the last two politicians... "
I do hope they won't do anything that coarse but considering the track record of Swedish police (or sSpo)on hunting political assassins above seems a likely scenario.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos "One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom."
Ermm what?, holy crap I tthought Sweden was cool but to be arrested for that
What is this ****? She did still consent to the sex, it's a negotiation process you go through, we've all done it, let's turn ourselves in.
I've talked nearly all woman into having unprotected sex with me, I confess.
I'd like to see if any of the national press has the balls to out anyone over this smelly affair. I'd suspect not even though there is a huge credibility prize to claim.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Kalle Demos "One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom."
Ermm what?, holy crap I tthought Sweden was cool but to be arrested for that
What is this ****? She did still consent to the sex, it's a negotiation process you go through, we've all done it, let's turn ourselves in.
I've talked nearly all woman into having unprotected sex with me, I confess.
I'd like to see if any of the national press has the balls to out anyone over this smelly affair. I'd suspect not even though there is a huge credibility prize to claim.
Same, but politically this was probably done to stall him, only making things worse.
So whats the punishment for having sex with someone?
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos So whats the punishment for having sex with someone?
Children.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Kalle Demos So whats the punishment for having sex with someone?
Children.
Nah. Teenagers. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 07/12/2010 20:28:15
Take notes kids as this is what happens when you **** off the wrong people. Especially when it involves international skeletons in the closet.
Tbh I think there should always be a wikileaks of some sort but this guy simply did it wrong. He should have hoarded the info and only acted on the stuff that was really an issue through other channels instead of just dumping everyones dirty laundry into the web. Plus the agent k comment was right in that the wrong secrets put out in public view can have an even worse effect than keeping them secret. Hopefully his database will survive and used in a less obvious but hopefully smarter manner for the next guy who wants to take a stand.
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Kalle Demos So whats the punishment for having sex with someone?
Children.
Nah. Teenagers.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/12/2010 20:52:47
Originally by: Nyu Shin U.S. to Host World Press Freedom Day in 2011
There are politicans preaching death penalty for a man doing a journalists job, and USA wants to host world press freedom day in 2011? My Ironymeter just imploded.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:54:00 -
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Why did paypal ban wikileaks?
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
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Shalkto
Gallente Beyond The Gates
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
Don't be ridiculous did you even look at the list of threats. Some of them are ridiculous the list of ones here in canada are laughable hell one of them isn't even a functional site at the moment and that had nothing to do with terrorists. And the US is still running. Ask anyone who lives in any of these areas what are important institutions and they can list them off for you.
I can list a whole whack of Hydro Electric dams that ship electricity to the US and i'm not even employed in the energy industry. Hell i bet you I can google all of those sites. Seriously this idea that islamic terrorists are ignorant of targets of importance is ridiculous it's the government and media outlets fearmongering.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos Why did paypal ban wikileaks?
I am guessing america asked "nicely"
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shalkto
Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
Don't be ridiculous did you even look at the list of threats. Some of them are ridiculous the list of ones here in canada are laughable hell one of them isn't even a functional site at the moment and that had nothing to do with terrorists. And the US is still running. Ask anyone who lives in any of these areas what are important institutions and they can list them off for you.
I can list a whole whack of Hydro Electric dams that ship electricity to the US and i'm not even employed in the energy industry. Hell i bet you I can google all of those sites. Seriously this idea that islamic terrorists are ignorant of targets of importance is ridiculous it's the government and media outlets fearmongering.
Yeah this is simply an attempt to prune it back before it actually uncovers something really embarrasing or possible unintentionally dangerous. Which is why I said he did it wrong. With some attempt at intelligent reserve wikileaks could have been made into a place where lots of good could have been done. As it was setup it was simply the /b/ of the worlds dirty laundry.
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vulnevia
The Exploited.
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos "One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom."
Ermm what?, holy crap I tthought Sweden was cool but to be arrested for that
Well, at least he wont be put in jail for 18 months like this arabic dude . And I bet my Thanatos on that if Assange was a guy nobody had heard of, he would get a small fine and he wouldn't have to run all around the globe to hide. Had he been a pop idol or similar, and had been caught with drugs he'd get a slap on his fingers and maybe a small fine.
It's also one thing to be arrested for something and actually go to court for something. You can get arrested for taking a leak on a building here in Sweden, but hardly go to jail for it(you'd have to pay like... Ç100 or something).
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: vulnevia
Originally by: Kalle Demos "One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom."
Ermm what?, holy crap I tthought Sweden was cool but to be arrested for that
Well, at least he wont be put in jail for 18 months like this arabic dude . And I bet my Thanatos on that if Assange was a guy nobody had heard of, he would get a small fine and he wouldn't have to run all around the globe to hide. Had he been a pop idol or similar, and had been caught with drugs he'd get a slap on his fingers and maybe a small fine.
It's also one thing to be arrested for something and actually go to court for something. You can get arrested for taking a leak on a building here in Sweden, but hardly go to jail for it(you'd have to pay like... Ç100 or something).
He won't be jailed. This is simply the first phase of a harrasment campaign to bully him into shutting down. What happens next is up to the rest of us tbh.
Time to take a side I'm afraid.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.07 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 07/12/2010 22:43:20
Originally by: Verone
Sad day for freedom of speech and transparency of leadership.
BooHoo, we're not allowed to scream "FIRE!" in a movie theater anymore for lols
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Nyu Shin
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Posted - 2010.12.07 22:56:00 -
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Pit latrine ?
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nyu Shin U.S. to Host World Press Freedom Day in 2011
And on next month's programme National Socialists against fascism.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:45:00 -
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You know if this happened before 1988, he would be face down in a ditch some place. For all those youngins the cold war was still going on at that time.
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Izzy Lizzy
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy BooHoo, we're not allowed to scream "FIRE!" in a movie theater anymore for lols
Apparently not even allowed to scream "FIRE" in a movie theater that is on fire if it exposes government for the criminal it is as well.
We must balance the cost of people burning to death with the cost of government credibility. Govt' cred: 1, innocent lives: 0. All is well.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets
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Posted - 2010.12.07 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nyu Shin Pit latrine ?
If my ex-girlfriends read this I'll be in jail for years ! ... actually, now I think about it, some of them will be going to jail as well ... maybe I could arrange shared cell ? ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2010.12.08 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Othran
Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
That'll be why there are over 3 million US govt employees who are cleared to see them?
NB - do note that its govt employees, not US citizens. Its a rather important distinction.
Oh and bollox they contain security risks. The unredacted Iraq/Afghan stuff undoubtably does but oh look they DIDN'T RELEASE THAT. Not even the USA can come up with a single instance where an individual was named and put at risk. These cables just show up the way the USA does "business" and thats way more damaging than any losses to people on the line.
If/when Assange gets extradited/kidnapped (sorry that'd be "special/extraordinary rendition" to US readers) to the USA we'll see whats damaging because insurance.aes256 will be in the wild.
Can't wait.
You obviously have no ****ing clue how classified information is handled. Just because 3 million government employees may have some sort of clearance doesn't automatically mean they are allowed to see information. There's something called NEED TO KNOW, and it applies to everyone. Even if you have Top Secret Eyes Only clearance, if you don't have a need to know, you're not allowed to see even a Secret document, MUCH LESS Secret NOFORN.
Come back when you actually know something about OPSEC.
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Posting Alt101
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 07/12/2010 11:58:27
"sex by surprise,"
1. It's not r*p* if you yell "SURPRISE!" hence...sex by surprise as being classified as a crime XD (wow the filters are harsh)
2. I'm glad he was arrested. Why? Can you imagine what Putin would do to Assange's family when he posted the information about the Russian government on wikileaks? It's not the children's fault they have a suicidal moron attempting to take on Putin and his KGB buddies, and all the corrupt Russian officials..and the Russian mobsters who profit off of the corruption...and the European mobsters who are in cahoots (been trying to work that word into a conversation/written sentence for a while now) with the Russian mobsters.
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.12.08 03:08:00 -
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The fact that there are other Americans calling for this guy's death scares me. He airs the government's dirty laundry, and instead of being angry with the people DOING the dirty deeds (IE, the US govt) you rant about how much you hope he dies.
The fact that the government isnt even trying to hide this sort of crap, nor deny it, is even more worrisome. They are basically owning up to it, we all know there is much, much worse that we dont know...yet, Americans are OK with it.
So, is it OK if the Govt decides that certain people are a "threat to national security" because of their religion, or nationality, or skin color? Maybe mark us with little colored triangles?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.12.08 03:42:00 -
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Americans are now what cruel Germans were in 1933, or Soviets in 1917.
And now I present the stupid ones in the next posts:
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.08 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 08/12/2010 03:53:13 Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 08/12/2010 03:49:03 Americans are now what cruel Germans were in 1933, or Soviets in 1917.
lol godwin
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire The fact that there are other Americans calling for this guy's death scares me. He airs the government's dirty laundry, and instead of being angry with the people DOING the dirty deeds (IE, the US govt) you rant about how much you hope he dies.
Death is a bit of a strong measure IMO, but as an American, I can understand the anger. Firstly most sane and pragmatic people, that are not trying to tear down the world in order to establish an idealist utopia, know that governments must have spies, must lie, must cheat, must steal, most do bad things from time to time, because if you don't, someone else will do it to you first. Sad but true. We all wish the world was free candy and happy people, but it's not.
Secondly, and more subtle, that many people don't get about America, even many Americans, is that, in the US system, the People are sovereign, not the government, not the old establishment, not a bunch of dead kings and queens for ever in oil upon a gilded wall. Granted not all Americans agree with the government or its policies or with those who may hold a particular office, but the concept, the idea, for the most part, remains respected and the enabler of the sovereignty. If that seems threatened, then like any sovereign, there is a call for someone's head.
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.12.08 04:56:00 -
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I am aware governments have to keep their secrets. I was also under the impression that normal people were permitted some privacy as well, but as we all know, the Patriot Act has overthrown that. You can be followed, spied on, your house searched (with or without your consent, with or without you ever even knowing) all in the name of national security. I am sick of getting "randomly selected" every time I enter the airport for "routine screenings" which turn into interrogations, simply because I have dark skin and hair. Apparently, it is a right for our elected officials, who are supposed to represent a higher standard, to be safe from such exposure...but not for you or me. There is behaviour that is acceptable, and behaviour that isnt. The US has been over the line for a long time, and keeps stepping further and further.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.08 05:24:00 -
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Dibs on his ears
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.08 06:13:00 -
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After doing some research, most Euro nations and the States would only jail the guy for 14 years per offence, which would mean automatically a life sentence.
Any other nuclear nation and he would be face down in a grave. But see everyone is talking about julian. What about his sources, does he not realize that treason in any country is punishable by death depending on the severity?
But anyway, the way it is set up it could be very well espionage charges against him because of the method he used to obtain the information.
What concerns me the most is, this, most of the world is on edge of going to war with each other again, we have north and south korea, pakistan and india, the middle east vs isreal, and many others, spreading secrets is not a good idea right now all it will do is hurt relations. Its like taking all your siblings and friends journals and reading them outloud over the intercom at high school
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