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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 06/04/2008 05:17:58
Originally by: NightmareX i killed a zealot on sisi!
I would say the nano-zealot pilot warped out. I would also say if you are using a Muninn to shoot cruisers you are using it for the wrong application and should buy a hurricane, or maelstrom instead. You would get farther on less isk and be explicitly better in the mean time.
If you can't kill another cruiser sized ship in a Muninn, then you suck big time.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 06/04/2008 05:17:58
Originally by: NightmareX i killed a zealot on sisi!
I would say the nano-zealot pilot warped out. I would also say if you are using a Muninn to shoot cruisers you are using it for the wrong application and should buy a hurricane, or maelstrom instead. You would get farther on less isk and be explicitly better in the mean time.
If you can't kill another cruiser sized ship in a Muninn, then you suck big time.
deathnote is a terrible
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Goumindong
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
If you can't kill another cruiser sized ship in a Muninn, then you suck big time.
I know it's better for other things, but it works good to kill cruiser sized ships to.
The question is not "can it kill a cruiser", lots of things can kill cruisers. the question is "should you be using this to kill a cruiser" where the answer is a decided "no". You should be using it to kill small ships that larger DPS ships have trouble hitting. If you wanted to kill cruisers you would be flying a battlecruiser where the shorter range and lower tracking was not such a liability, or a battleship where pretty much the only limiter is locking time.
Now if you are asking whether or not it can kill a nano-zealot before that nano-zealot leaves the battlefield, the answer is also a decided "no" http://eve-files.com/dl/154147 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Vote Goumindong for CSM[/url] |
NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: NightmareX
If you can't kill another cruiser sized ship in a Muninn, then you suck big time.
I know it's better for other things, but it works good to kill cruiser sized ships to.
The question is not "can it kill a cruiser", lots of things can kill cruisers. the question is "should you be using this to kill a cruiser" where the answer is a decided "no". You should be using it to kill small ships that larger DPS ships have trouble hitting. If you wanted to kill cruisers you would be flying a battlecruiser where the shorter range and lower tracking was not such a liability, or a battleship where pretty much the only limiter is locking time.
Now if you are asking whether or not it can kill a nano-zealot before that nano-zealot leaves the battlefield, the answer is also a decided "no"
Yeah but i just prooved that the ship also is good to kill stuffs where the ship is not strongest at. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Crackzilla
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Now if you are asking whether or not it can kill a nano-zealot before that nano-zealot leaves the battlefield, the answer is also a decided "no"
It *was* Sisi. Who makes a large effort to escape on Sisi? The nano-zealot was just as likely to think, "ya know..never gone after a muninn or whatever...lets try it".
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Goumindong
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Posted - 2008.04.06 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Yeah but i just prooved that the ship also is good to kill stuffs where the ship is not strongest at.
No, you did not. You asserted via an anecdote that the ship was good to kill things where you ought to have been using another ship to do the job better.
That is very different from proof. http://eve-files.com/dl/154147 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Vote Goumindong for CSM[/url] |
NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 06/04/2008 06:53:32
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: NightmareX
Yeah but i just prooved that the ship also is good to kill stuffs where the ship is not strongest at.
No, you did not. You asserted via an anecdote that the ship was good to kill things where you ought to have been using another ship to do the job better.
That is very different from proof.
So when you are saying that the ship is not meant to kill cruiser ships, and when i also killed a NANO ZEALOT, do you mean i didn't proove that the ship can kill cruiser ships good to?
Yes i DID proove it, because when you kill a ship in a ship that is not meant to be used in the way you are killing ships in, then the ship must be good at something.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.04.06 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Yes i DID proove it, because when you kill a ship in a ship that is not meant to be used in the way you are killing ships in, then the ship must be good at something.
do you know what it means when someone says your claim is spurious? can you tell the difference between related things and causal events? ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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techzer0
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Posted - 2008.04.06 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: NightmareX
If you can't kill another cruiser sized ship in a Muninn, then you suck big time.
I know it's better for other things, but it works good to kill cruiser sized ships to.
The question is not "can it kill a cruiser", lots of things can kill cruisers. the question is "should you be using this to kill a cruiser" where the answer is a decided "no". You should be using it to kill small ships that larger DPS ships have trouble hitting. If you wanted to kill cruisers you would be flying a battlecruiser where the shorter range and lower tracking was not such a liability, or a battleship where pretty much the only limiter is locking time.
Now if you are asking whether or not it can kill a nano-zealot before that nano-zealot leaves the battlefield, the answer is also a decided "no"
That's petty... and you're all about the blob as I can see since your first response in an evenly classed fight would be to get a bigger ship than the other guy has.
I get in an assault frigate to kill a cruiser if I have one handy... not a BC, because a BC is a slow POS comparatively.
Gah... reading this one post reminds me of why I stopped reading this thread originally... I'll go back to playing the game, maybe you should too (then you might know how to kill nano-ships) ------------
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: NightmareX
Yes i DID proove it, because when you kill a ship in a ship that is not meant to be used in the way you are killing ships in, then the ship must be good at something.
do you know what it means when someone says your claim is spurious? can you tell the difference between related things and causal events?
So did i lie when i said that i had no problems to kill the nano Zealot in my long range fitted Muninn?
No i didn't lie, i told you what happened, and i told you that it can be easy to kill ships like that even in a ship that are not meant to kill ships like i killed there, so yeah, did i proove it that it can be easy, or did i lie? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.04.06 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 06/04/2008 07:37:04
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: NightmareX
Yes i DID proove it, because when you kill a ship in a ship that is not meant to be used in the way you are killing ships in, then the ship must be good at something.
do you know what it means when someone says your claim is spurious? can you tell the difference between related things and causal events?
So did i lie when i said that i had no problems to kill the nano Zealot in my long range fitted Muninn?
No i didn't lie, i told you what happened, and i told you that it can be easy to kill ships like that even in a ship that are not meant to kill ships like i killed there, so yeah, did i proove it that it can be easy, or did i lie?
You didn't lie but you didn't prove anything in a scientific sense either--ultimately this comes down to whether or not you think this is a game grounded on rational choices aimed at creating predictable outcomes. You assume this a game in which there are few tactical choices that, all things being equal, are generally better than all others. Or you think that because an event happened once, twice or a hundred times, it is a valid basis for interpolating other ship fitting decisions.
You said you killed a bigger ship using a smaller one and created an upset, that's fine but the question you should be asking is: is the scenario where you are likely unprepared for a fight the ideal scenario? Does it make sense to engage if you and your opponent know this? Surely there was a better ship for it in the same turret class or larger but does the fact that you did it doesn't speak for anything other than the fact that you did it. Since I can't replicate your skills or the specific scenario, I can't treat it as meaningful. In other words, the question is do you play this game competitively (scientifically) or for other reasons--this thread is fundamentally about this question.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 06/04/2008 09:10:18 Oh, i forgot to say one thing.
WTB a topic title.
EDIT: NVM, the op seems to have deleted all of his replys, so this topic is over. Tank you Everyone Dies, finally we can stop this madness topic about noobs who can't kill anything at all. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Call'Da Poleece
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:16:00 -
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nerf nanos!!
Hey Goum, start another thread. Nightnightx will give you free bumps while making nano pilots look like gibberish spewing kids.
CCP, stop the nano madness; make snakes/speed implants only affect frigate sized ships.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Call'Da Poleece nerf nanos!!
Hey Goum, start another thread. Nightnightx will give you free bumps while making nano pilots look like gibberish spewing kids.
Nerf noobs in NPC corps with no clue. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Call'Da Poleece
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece nerf nanos!!
Hey Goum, start another thread. Nightnightx will give you free bumps while making nano pilots look like gibberish spewing kids.
Nerf noobs in NPC corps with no clue.
see!! free bumps AND he makes as much sense as a kid, you cant lose!!
CCP, stop the nano madness; make snakes/speed implants only affect frigate sized ships.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece nerf nanos!!
Hey Goum, start another thread. Nightnightx will give you free bumps while making nano pilots look like gibberish spewing kids.
Nerf noobs in NPC corps with no clue.
see!! free bumps AND he makes as much sense as a kid, you cant lose!!
Yeah a free bump to a topic that have made some very nice reasons why nanos are FINE. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
SiJira
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Posted - 2008.04.19 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus It's well beyond a problem, it's the nano plague.
so you cant deal with it and then try to name it something to make it sound really wrong? Trashed sig, Shark was here |
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