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Kachak
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:11:00 -
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Hi,
My name is Kachak (ingame). I would like to make proposal for game of EvE Online. I will make general discussion of subject matter, so I hope this is correct place to do so.
I want to discuss the issue of human players who are pretending to be NPC rats. That is uncivil, and I do not belief that is the whole point of this multiplayer game.
In current status of the game, players are free to PK other human being players at will. If they do so in high security solar systems and they do not have legitimate basis for their actions (war target, kill rights, anti-piracy, etc), they will be made into pod by intervention of Concord forces, or the local Faction Patrol.
Fair enough so far.
But imagine this scene - you are in a low security solar system. I know you get a warning message when you initiate jump into such a system, but to be honest, don't we all just make click of "yes" on every confirmatory dialog box pop up window?
So continuing with the exemplary scene of example. Imagine you are in a hauler, carrying valuable skill training books for your entire corporation. You jump in to low security solar system, and your cellular telephome starts ringing. Since you specifically assigned a special tone to your girlfriend, and that tone is playinf right now, you know it is your girlfriend who is making a call to you.
You say "OK, I have 1 minute of cloaked time at this side of the gate, I will make short talk with my girl friend in that time frame, and come back to travel on in the game".
Nice thinking, but not always practical. I say so because this has happened to me IRL.
Because IRL matters are not that simple, and cannot be predicted as easily as ingame events.
I mean for example if you could hold your cloak of invisibility at the gate after you jump, say, until you press another key, any key (including mouse buttons), that would be fair in my opinion of thought.
But for example, let's say you went for a toilet break after you jumped into low security solar system. You know you have 1 minutes of cloaked time, and you are affirmative you can complete your toilet break under 1 minute.
But what if there is a line of waiting at the toilet?? (This also happened to me, FYI)
To be honest, I do not like the way EvE Online game is in such ways detached from realities of IRL. Not fair.
So my proposal is this:
Make pirating human players (those who PK spaceships of other human beings) pay more IRL money for their monthly subscription.
It is obvious these kind of players (pirates) make the game play experience worse for peaceful players already. The security status is a joke, they just get an alternative character and haul stuff with that. Not even remotely balancing. Nowhere near discouraging.
But if every pirate pays, say, 0.1 more monthly for every human player they killed within the past month, I do believe we could make better pace in the everlasting battle of eliminating all criminals from the game.
I do believe this is only a slight punishment the way I have exemplified above, but I am also aware it already too much for the EvE Online gaming community to absorb. That is why I am not posting this post in Crime & Punishment forum. I would probably be podded 10 times every day if I did so.
I would very much like to hear your views on my proposal, and I thank you for your attention if you read my postage of discussion this far.
Fly safe.
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:12:00 -
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Easily Claims first in a Genos thread full of IRL stuff
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Anndy
Caldari
Praetorian BlackGuard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:14:00 -
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can i have your stuff?
thats eve love it or leave
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:15:00 -
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It shud b illegal IRL to kill peeps in vidya gaemn tbh
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Ginako
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:16:00 -
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/me spontaneously combust 
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Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs |
Beckoner Venhatha
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:17:00 -
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Eve is RL..
Anything else is an illusion brought about by consumption of too much Quafe
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Draconis VI
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:17:00 -
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1/10 on trolling scale. Good idea, but wall of text. Wish you more luck next time 
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:18:00 -
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hilarious troll easily scores 8/10
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Clever Drake
Minmatar
The Flying Tigers
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:18:00 -
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lol?
I can do that right, lol, I mean?
Anyone know?
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Capt Happhypants
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:19:00 -
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 Quote:
But imagine this scene - you are in a low security solar system. I know you get a warning message when you initiate jump into such a system, but to be honest, don't we all just make click of "yes" on every confirmatory dialog box pop up window?
1. Don't do this.
2. Warp to station or safe spot before answering phone.
3. Log off, de-install, buy Hello Kitty Island Adventure, install, enjoy.
All three are valid options, I recommend option 3 for you. Don't blame other players for your inability to understand the game and plan accordingly.
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low26
Caldari
Gank Bears
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:21:00 -
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WHAAA. the big bad piwates are ruining EVE make em pay more! As it has been said many times EVE is a pvp game it is not WoW. And as it has also been said before "your stuff give it to me"
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ginako
/me spontaneously combust
This.
Sig is now EVE related. Happy mods?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:25:00 -
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YAY! So if I get podded and the dude podding me is living in Texas I can then get them on death row for virtual murder. 
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Ideas for: Mining
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Li Fengxian
Gallente
Reservoir Saints
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Li Fengxian on 24/02/2009 21:29:31
This proposal is laughable. Detached from the reality of IRL?! Go in the Caribbean and the Somalian coast and ask the pirates on motomarines there if they are detached from IRL reality.
Pirates are as part of the game as you and I are. It's a viable career in a space in quasi-state of anarchy.
Really, please, if you can't stand the heat go away and play WoW or Hello Kitty Online. Stop wasting valuable kilobytes of forum space if you cannot stand the basic premises of the game.
However, that proposal might be a huge piece of irony.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kachak
Hi,
My name is Kachak. I am a huge moron.
Words can not express how hard I facepalmed at your post.
Please do us a favor and cancel your account before I strangle you (in game)
But seriously haven't you even noticed my post already ended and your reading my sig? |
teoliit
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:29:00 -
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obvious troll = fail
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Joar Mendar
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:29:00 -
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Troll troll is troll.
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Li Fengxian
Gallente
Reservoir Saints
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Kachak
Hi,
My name is Kachak. I am a huge moron.
Words can not express how hard I facepalmed at your post.
Please do us a favor and cancel your account before I strangle you (in game)
Can't wait for ambulation to do just that - in game of course.
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Cupdeez
Out of Order
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:31:00 -
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I only play this game to blow $hit up.. Yes this includes your hauler or anything else I can get my hands on...
So with my recent example I think players who never leave empire should pay 20 dollars a month since I can't actively kill them in empire.
It's like real life.... One day you come home from work and everything in your house is gone! Have fun sending them the bill. You have a wife and kids but one day a drunk driver hits your car and bam... Your wife is in a wheelchair and your kids don't make it.
If you think lossing a few skillbooks and a pod is bad look at what happen to Band of brothers... They probably lost 500-800 billion in assets. Maybe CCP should charge Goons members 100 dollars a month for their accounts.
pffff.. this could should be war dec in empire and killed every time he undocks.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:31:00 -
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if i do become one of these player NPC's..
will i be chained to a wall and torchered by women for my actions as a ebil pirate
that what happened to pirates right
the interwebs told me
This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
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Anndy
Caldari
Praetorian BlackGuard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
YAY! So if I get podded and the dude podding me is living in Texas I can then get them on death row for virtual murder.
honestly i wouldnt be surprised to see that one day, people take MMOs way to seriously, i've seen all kinds of stuff on the news about law suits and people committing assault and murder all because someone did something to someone in a game
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Ginako
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ginako on 24/02/2009 21:34:35
Step 1: Miner hesitantly gives up rocks, makes minerals, and sells them on market.
Step 2: Manufacturer uses Minerals & Makes Ship!
Step 3: Noob buys Ship and takes off for Rancer.
Step 4: Pirate destroys Pilots Shiny New Ship along with Pride. 
Step 5: Repeat Step 1.
Edit: Almost Forgot...
Step 6: ????
Step 7: Profit! 
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Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs |
Kachak
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Kachak
Hi,
My name is Kachak. I am a huge moron.
Words can not express how hard I facepalmed at your post.
Please do us a favor and cancel your account before I strangle you (in game)
I did not say I am a huge moron. I think you are hacking my quotes on the forums.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:39:00 -
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Clicking undock is the "I consent to the possibility of someone blowing my **** up" button
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Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:39:00 -
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This has to be one of the funniest proposals I've ever read.
So, how about NO 
We all pay to play, some like killing stuff (even those that are AFK while jumping into low sec and talking to their GF), others like to go AFK and talk to their GF while jumping into low sec.
TBH, I feel a recommendation for the "EVE 2009 Darwin Awards" in the making here.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 24/02/2009 21:43:39
Originally by: Kachak
Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Kachak
Hi,
My name is Kachak. I am a huge moron.
Words can not express how hard I facepalmed at your post.
Please do us a favor and cancel your account before I strangle you (in game)
I did say I am a huge moron. I think i love you more everyday as you quote my quotes on the forums.
no see you did say it again
This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
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Jared D'Uroth
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:44:00 -
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Kachak I think your OP has some very excellent points. I would like to point out to all you pirates that people playing eve are not wanting to shoot other people infact I think most would be happyer if there was no way to target another player.
I however think that pirates are teenagers and therefore they have no money SO if you did this plan then we would be rid of all our pillaging and eve would be a safer place for everyone great post kachak.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kachak
...WOT...
If you really belive that, you are a moron...
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Li Fengxian
Gallente
Reservoir Saints
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Kachak I think your OP has some very excellent points. I would like to point out to all you pirates that people playing eve are not wanting to shoot other people infact I think most would be happyer if there was no way to target another player.
I however think that pirates are teenagers and therefore they have no money SO if you did this plan then we would be rid of all our pillaging and eve would be a safer place for everyone great post kachak.
Wow, this is even funnier than the OP.
Not all pirates are griefers, and not all griefers are pirates. The best pirates are in fact wealthy and adults.
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Dephar Atrium
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Posted - 2009.02.24 21:53:00 -
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if you fall for a Pvper pretending to be a rat I suggest you take a bullet to your head, plus I like cats
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