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Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.08 14:47:00 - [151] Quote: So you say i should fit the ferox like your fit? because you havent wrote anything else about it. And everybody can tell you that setup is a fail. No mwd ,3 rigs .... Let me spell it out for you, as you're clearly not very good at the whole interpretation "thing": The Ferox is fine. This is demonstrated by comparing unbonused weapon systems on the Ferox against the same weapon systems on other tier one battlecruiers. This leads to only one possible conclusion that explains why you're convinced that the Brutix is so much better; The problem is in fact with Railguns. --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.03.08 15:49:00 - [152] Originally by: Cedric Diggory Quote: So you say i should fit the ferox like your fit? because you havent wrote anything else about it. And everybody can tell you that setup is a fail. No mwd ,3 rigs .... Let me spell it out for you, as you're clearly not very good at the whole interpretation "thing": The Ferox is fine. This is demonstrated by comparing unbonused weapon systems on the Ferox against the same weapon systems on other tier one battlecruiers. This leads to only one possible conclusion that explains why you're convinced that the Brutix is so much better; The problem is in fact with Railguns. The demonstration was wrong, so it doesnt support your Ferox is fine motto.
achoura	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:09:00 - [153] Tier one bc being sub-par to tier 2 aside, the ferox is a sniper and it does this well, more effectively that the ti moa, less effectively than the tii eagle/vulture. It is in essence, a mini rokh and used as such, is fine although stats wise it'll never be as good as a tier 2 bc, that's an inherent problem. The idea of adding a 7th turret to the ferox was gone over in detail in the gd forum (where it would actually have some effect) when ccp added one to the moa, and changed nothing. In any case, it does something no other bc dos with tbh, is more than the cyclone/proph do but the only serious bc sniper is the vulter, as always. *The EVE servers and their patches*
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:37:00 - [154] Originally by: achoura Tier one bc being sub-par to tier 2 aside, the ferox is a sniper and it does this well, more effectively that the ti moa, less effectively than the tii eagle/vulture. It is in essence, a mini rokh and used as such, is fine although stats wise it'll never be as good as a tier 2 bc, that's an inherent problem. The idea of adding a 7th turret to the ferox was gone over in detail in the gd forum (where it would actually have some effect) when ccp added one to the moa, and changed nothing. In any case, it does something no other bc dos with tbh, is more than the cyclone/proph do but the only serious bc sniper is the vulter, as always. Don't be silly, Ferox got his 6th turret added the very same moment Moa got additional turret.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.08 17:49:00 - [155] Quote: The demonstration was wrong, so it doesnt support your Ferox is fine motto. Repeating the same tired thing page after page doesn't make it any more accurate. You failed to demonstrate your own arguments, and have the audacity to come out with rubbish like this? You do so make my lol Naomi. --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.03.08 19:22:00 - [156] Originally by: Cedric Diggory Quote: The demonstration was wrong, so it doesnt support your Ferox is fine motto. Repeating the same tired thing page after page doesn't make it any more accurate. You failed to demonstrate your own arguments, and have the audacity to come out with rubbish like this? You do so make my lol Naomi. I've proved how the brutix is better then the ferox up to 100km. The ferox only better between 100-130km ,over 130km the ferox become useless , nearly 0 dps. And shooting at 100-130km doesnt better than shooting 80-100km you cant realy use that + optimal to your advantage.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.08 21:56:00 - [157] Quote: I've proved how the brutix is better then the ferox up to 100km. The ferox only better between 100-130km ,over 130km the ferox become useless , nearly 0 dps. And shooting at 100-130km doesnt better than shooting 80-100km you cant realy use that + optimal to your advantage. Don't make me tell you again why the Ferox can hit 150km away. What you've failed to realise Naomi is that the comparison you are making is true of every single tier one battlecruiers versus the Brutix. The Ferox cannot be imbalanced if it compares favourably - and indeed it does - to the majority of ships in it's class. Given this fact, there's only one outcome: The Brutix is the problem and the Ferox is fine. --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.03.08 23:16:00 - [158] Originally by: Cedric Diggory Quote: I've proved how the brutix is better then the ferox up to 100km. The ferox only better between 100-130km ,over 130km the ferox become useless , nearly 0 dps. And shooting at 100-130km doesnt better than shooting 80-100km you cant realy use that + optimal to your advantage. Don't make me tell you again why the Ferox can hit 150km away. What you've failed to realise Naomi is that the comparison you are making is true of every single tier one battlecruiers versus the Brutix. The Ferox cannot be imbalanced if it compares favourably - and indeed it does - to the majority of ships in it's class. Given this fact, there's only one outcome: The Brutix is the problem and the Ferox is fine. It can shoot at 150km and do like 60dps? Thats right it will have around 60dps+ minimal tank. So your conclusion is wrong, it is the brutix which is fine and the other 3 tier 1 bcs are weak.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.08 23:28:00 - [159] Quote: So your conclusion is wrong, it is the brutix which is fine and the other 3 tier 1 bcs are weak. 25% are right and 75% are wrong? Your logic is astounding. --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.03.08 23:32:00 - [160] Originally by: Cedric Diggory Quote: So your conclusion is wrong, it is the brutix which is fine and the other 3 tier 1 bcs are weak. 25% are right and 75% are wrong? Your logic is astounding. So if you look only at stealthbombers they are all right because more or less all are the same?
Lisento Slaven The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.09 02:16:00 - [161] Originally by: Naomi Knight It can shoot at 150km and do like 60dps? Thats right it will have around 60dps+ minimal tank. So your conclusion is wrong, it is the brutix which is fine and the other 3 tier 1 bcs are weak. Actually with my skills I can get the Ferox to do 145 DPS at 145km optimal with 14km falloff. Doesn't mean it will actually hit the target...it probably will depending on the size of it. 22k EHP. No rigs at all. --- Put in space whales!
General Paul Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.03.09 02:46:00 - [162] anyone mind posting a good vulture snipe fit between ferox ramblings ? I fit mine with blasters for the lulz currently
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.09 05:38:00 - [163] The Ferox actually isn't that bad with blasters, it doesn't do the DPS that the brutix does, and it doesn't have the ewar versatility, but for pure gank/tank? Pretty decent, it even gets a bonus because people will underestimate you. E.G. [Ferox, Blasters] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hobgoblin II x5 570 DPS, 67k EHP, 118 dps regen. A brutix will be only slightly breaking that(and shield rigs are much cheaper than armor rigs) but will do it with a web and 24km point. On the other hand, the Brutix should be better, so complaining that the Ferox isn't is kinda weak in that regard. As a sniper, the increased range of the Ferox is very valuable. And its DPS is comparable to about 80km on its ideal targets under which its very hard to hit those ideal targets anyway.

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