EVE Search - Kenzoku goes Super Saiyan, transforms into ~Band of Brothers Reloaded~

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions

Kenzoku goes Super Saiyan, transforms into ~Band of Brothers Reloaded~

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 .. 23 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
O Thief Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:09:00 - [631] Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Originally by: O Thief Actually, I hope we find out it's all a huge unfair devsploit. Purely to see the wonderfully bitter nerdrage tears of the goons fill these pages. My fingers are crossed. (as an aside, they have of course completely lost the arguement as Jade rightly points out) The only thing you've pointed out over and over is your terrible gimmick consisting of two parts fail: 1. Only goons care and not every single person that's ever wanted a name change. 2. I don't possess the mental faculties to understand this issue. Bonus # 3. I am one of Jade's VIP customers. You're right, I don't have the intellectual capability to understand an issue as serious and complicated as an alliance petioning for a name change, and the owners of the game deciding to do that. It is completely beyond my power of reasoning. OR... Maybe I'm the one that actually 'gets it', and you need to get a grip and focus less on trivilaities in an internet spaceship game. There is a whole world out there. Its an MMO run by a privately owned company, who have made a decision. They don't have to justify it to you, me, or anyone else. If you don't like it, you know how to cancel your subscription.
Zeph1rus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:11:00 - [632] Originally by: O Thief Maybe I'm the one that actually 'gets it', and you need to get a grip and focus less on trivilaities in an internet spaceship game. There is a whole world out there. Its an MMO run by a privately owned company, who have made a decision. They don't have to justify it to you, me, or anyone else. If you don't like it, you know how to cancel your subscription. You are still posting in this thread, right? Yeah? Just checking.
Marcus Druallis Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:12:00 - [633] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Originally by: O Thief Actually, I hope we find out it's all a huge unfair devsploit. Purely to see the wonderfully bitter nerdrage tears of the goons fill these pages. My fingers are crossed. (as an aside, they have of course completely lost the arguement as Jade rightly points out) The only thing you've pointed out over and over is your terrible gimmick consisting of two parts fail: 1. Only goons care and not every single person that's ever wanted a name change. 2. I don't possess the mental faculties to understand this issue. Bonus # 3. I am one of Jade's VIP customers. You're right, I don't have the intellectual capability to understand an issue as serious and complicated as an alliance petioning for a name change, and the owners of the game deciding to do that. It is completely beyond my power of reasoning. OR... Maybe I'm the one that actually 'gets it', and you need to get a grip and focus less on trivilaities in an internet spaceship game. There is a whole world out there. Its an MMO run by a privately owned company, who have made a decision. They don't have to justify it to you, me, or anyone else. If you don't like it, you know how to cancel your subscription. I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? --
Captain ULTIMATE Amarr Maximum Pulsing Golden Laser Geddongs with Lasers	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:12:00 - [634] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Originally by: O Thief Actually, I hope we find out it's all a huge unfair devsploit. Purely to see the wonderfully bitter nerdrage tears of the goons fill these pages. My fingers are crossed. (as an aside, they have of course completely lost the arguement as Jade rightly points out) The only thing you've pointed out over and over is your terrible gimmick consisting of two parts fail: 1. Only goons care and not every single person that's ever wanted a name change. 2. I don't possess the mental faculties to understand this issue. Bonus # 3. I am one of Jade's VIP customers. You're right, I don't have the intellectual capability to understand an issue as serious and complicated as an alliance petioning for a name change, and the owners of the game deciding to do that. It is completely beyond my power of reasoning. OR... Maybe I'm the one that actually 'gets it', and you need to get a grip and focus less on trivilaities in an internet spaceship game. There is a whole world out there. Its an MMO run by a privately owned company, who have made a decision. They don't have to justify it to you, me, or anyone else. If you don't like it, you know how to cancel your subscription. Hahahahah you still don't get it maybe you should start over and read from the beginning I really hope you can join the rest of us up here man. I'm rooting for you. o/\o
O Thief Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:16:00 - [635] Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Hahahahah you still don't get it maybe you should start over and read from the beginning I really hope you can join the rest of us up here man. I'm rooting for you. o/\o You're either trolling or incredibly stupid, which is it?
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:21:00 - [636] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Marcus Druallis I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? confirming I hate myself, but watching all the angry nerdragers get worked up into a fury over an internet spaceship name change gives my life amusement post with your main
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:21:00 - [637] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Marcus Druallis I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? confirming I hate myself, but watching all the angry nerdragers get worked up into a fury over an internet spaceship name change gives my life amusement obvious troll
Marcus Druallis Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:22:00 - [638] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Marcus Druallis I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? confirming I hate myself, but watching all the angry nerdragers get worked up into a fury over an internet spaceship name change gives my life amusement The first step is admitting you have a problem, well done --
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:22:00 - [639] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Marcus Druallis I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? confirming I hate myself, but watching all the angry nerdragers get worked up into a fury over an internet spaceship name change gives my life amusement calm down its only a game
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:23:00 - [640] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Marcus Druallis I love how people like you are claiming that people in this topic "care too much and need to get a life". However, you are posting in the very same topic, and are watching it unfold as well. Bit of self loathing there perhaps? confirming I hate myself, but watching all the angry nerdragers get worked up into a fury over an internet spaceship name change gives my life amusement delicious emorage nerd tears

Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:26:00 - [641] did i miss any, o thief, master of the recycled meme?
O Thief Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:30:00 - [642] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan did i miss any, o thief, master of the recycled meme? we wouldnt be able to use those memes, if goons weren't quite so predictable and cliched when it came to all things internet spaceship so really, you bring it on yourself
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:33:00 - [643] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Hanabi Kazan did i miss any, o thief, master of the recycled meme? we wouldnt be able to use those memes, if goons weren't quite so predictable and cliched when it came to all things internet spaceship so really, you bring it on yourself what does this even mean (thought of another one)
Captain ULTIMATE Amarr Maximum Pulsing Golden Laser Geddongs with Lasers	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:47:00 - [644] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Hahahahah you still don't get it maybe you should start over and read from the beginning I really hope you can join the rest of us up here man. I'm rooting for you. o/\o You're either trolling or incredibly stupid, which is it? Bro I just want you to take part in this thread to the fullest of your ability. To do this you have to first be able to grasp the issue, which you have demonstrated over and over to be too difficult for you which makes me sad. :( Maybe a good start would be to petition CCP right now to change your alliance name to something really cool like Kirk'n'Khan. Tell them you deserve the admiration and respect that Kenzoku did and that you too should be able to change your name because you want to without repercussion. Make sure to post back!
Vimiko Engren Minmatar Mass Production	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:51:00 - [645] Originally by: OldPueblo Originally by: Vimiko Engren Much like the fair way someone has gone in and taken the Kenzoku name as a corporation now, amirite. I think you'd be surprised at how little that being reversed would matter. Especially since in this case it would be filed under "never should have happened" which IS grounds for CCP intervention. Nope. The name became available (doesn't matter how), and was taken within normal game mechanics, right? Much like the Band of Brothers name. No going back now
Chadley Bradley Gallente Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Associates	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:24:00 - [646] Originally by: Vimiko Engren Originally by: OldPueblo Originally by: Vimiko Engren Much like the fair way someone has gone in and taken the Kenzoku name as a corporation now, amirite. I think you'd be surprised at how little that being reversed would matter. Especially since in this case it would be filed under "never should have happened" which IS grounds for CCP intervention. Nope. The name became available (doesn't matter how), and was taken within normal game mechanics, right? Much like the Band of Brothers name. No going back now I think the point that most people opposed are making is that they were NOT normal game mechanics. So you might get some flak for that. -Chadley
OldPueblo Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:37:00 - [647] Originally by: Vimiko Engren Originally by: OldPueblo Originally by: Vimiko Engren Much like the fair way someone has gone in and taken the Kenzoku name as a corporation now, amirite. I think you'd be surprised at how little that being reversed would matter. Especially since in this case it would be filed under "never should have happened" which IS grounds for CCP intervention. Nope. The name became available (doesn't matter how), and was taken within normal game mechanics, right? Much like the Band of Brothers name. No going back now The pivotal quesion is HOW it became available. In terms of BoB originally, it was "BoB itself" that made the name available when Haargoth kicked everyone out so it was legitimately free. An alliance disbanding/name change for an invalid reason though is subject to CCP intervention (bugs, offensive, etc). Even then, the name is not the heart of the issue. Their choice to join Kenzoku long ago and not create a new alliance, and then now going back on that choice after having benefited from it is the issue. As well as nobody ELSE being able to change their name still.
Covenn Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:01:00 - [648] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan Originally by: Covenn LOL - This thread is pretty funny. You all act like if some defector from (Goonswarm, MM, Razor etc) were to disband your alliance... then have your alliance name taken, all your space taken, that you would all just roll over and take it, and say "Hey GG that's all perfectly fair, part of the game" Give me a break. nope, we would * and complain and petition Fixed
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:06:00 - [649] So, basically, what everyone is saying, and forgive me because i'm finally reading COAD, is that CCP jumped in again and hooked BoB up with a name change that shouldnt have happened? If this is 100% true, for those of you all raising a stink about it. What do you plan on doing when CCP doesnt do anything about it? You all going to emo rage quit?
Kinet Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:24:00 - [650] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Lem2J When Cult of War (COW) didnt pay the bill, the alliance was disbanded. A third party took the corp name in order to block the re-creation of Cow. I petitioned this, the corp was re-named and we paid the fee to recreate the alliance... This is game, set and match for the argument really. It is impossible to continue arguing against Band of Brothers getting their orginal name back while the precise situation with Cult of War is on record and past precedence is established. Jade, I think your missing the actual cause that has most of us angry. As noted above CCP set precedence for renaming an alliance. When the BOB name was taken, most of us agree it should have been given back BUT that soverenty should have been lost. That didnt happen and CCP handled it incorrectly and inconsistantly. THEN after two months they allowed Kenzoku to rename without losing sov or recreating the alliance. I think I speak for many of us here when I say it is not about BOB getting their name back, it is about CCP continuing to make mistakes and not follow precedence when dealing with matters between GS and BOB. It's like a dev war between little kids, those with BOB doing what they can to help them and those with GS doing what they can to help them. CCP needs to act like an adult and apply the same policy to everyone regardless of having devs in the group. Thats not happening, even you admit that based on the CoW actions that BOB should have gotten its name back two months ago. Why did this not happen? Even you have to admit that CCP is handling these events badly. What happened to all that talk the last time to putting auditing in place for the devs? What happened to the big internal investigation department and other nonsense that CCP told the media was going into effect to protect the paying customers from dev misconduct? How is the CSM going to help prevent the devs and GMs from making these kinds of mistakes?

Zeph1rus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:27:00 - [651] Originally by: Invelious So, basically, what everyone is saying, and forgive me because i'm finally reading COAD, is that CCP jumped in again and hooked BoB up with a name change that shouldnt have happened? If this is 100% true, for those of you all raising a stink about it. What do you plan on doing when CCP doesnt do anything about it? You all going to emo rage quit? No, I believe, as per their previous alliance name, that we are going to take it and **** all over it. Just like we shat all over their capfleet, space, allies and this thread.
Yarik Mendel Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:38:00 - [652] Originally by: Cautet Because the masses either don't care or agree with the change. Just because whineswarm and their allies disagree with something and flood the forums with ****posts doesn't mean they have popular support. but I thought whineswarm naptrain was 99% of Eve? Make up your mind, else you come up looking silly.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:40:00 - [653] Originally by: Shikome Alluin Seriously Jade, answer me this: Why did .BoB. not loose sov + have to pay the 1 billion isk like COW had to? Because in my opinion the GM decision was wrong in this case. Using the precedent of the COW disband and blocking corp rename the GM's should have immediately renamed the Band of Brothers corporation in Goonswarm control and invited Bob leadership to reform their alliance then and there. GMs made a hash of this - they took way too long to reach a decision and were (in my opinion) swayed by fear of negative PR from the inevitable goon backlash whatever they did. As a result we've got the current compromise solution that pleases nobody much and hasn't resolved the issue of Goons being favoured by GM team upholding their identity theft. Quote: Yes Cow was disbanded because of unpaid bills, but they had to pay the Alliance registration fee and reform their alliance. I agree - Band of Brothers should have paid 1billion isk to reform Band of Brothers once the goon blocking corp was removed. Quote: .BoB. was KenZuko at the time of the name change to "Reloaded", thus its only logical they would have to disband KenZuko to reform "Reloaded" is it not? Yes it is logical and the only reason this hasn't happened is a poor compromise that has been reached because the GM's haven't acted to remove the goon blocking corp. Quote: They got special treatment, CCP bending above examples rules and bypassing the sov loss and registration fee. Goons received special treatment in having the band of brothers alt blocking corp remain in game when such tactics have led to similar corps being renamed in the past. BOB received special treatment in an attempt to reach a compromise decision that didn't risk igniting a goon threadnaught of rage (oh the naivety). Quote: You can not ignore this! I know you will try though... Why on earth would I ignore this. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:48:00 - [654] Originally by: Kinet Jade, I think your missing the actual cause that has most of us angry. As noted above CCP set precedence for renaming an alliance. When the BOB name was taken, most of us agree it should have been given back BUT that soverenty should have been lost. I agree. Quote: That didnt happen and CCP handled it incorrectly and inconsistantly. I agree again. Quote: THEN after two months they allowed Kenzoku to rename without losing sov or recreating the alliance. I think I speak for many of us here when I say it is not about BOB getting their name back, it is about CCP continuing to make mistakes and not follow precedence when dealing with matters between GS and BOB. And again. I completely agree. This matter has not been handled well. CCP have behaved with partiality favouring first GOONs then BOB and pleasing nobody. Quote: It's like a dev war between little kids, those with BOB doing what they can to help them and those with GS doing what they can to help them. CCP needs to act like an adult and apply the same policy to everyone regardless of having devs in the group. Absolutely. Quote: Thats not happening, even you admit that based on the CoW actions that BOB should have gotten its name back two months ago. Why did this not happen? If I was on the CSM at the moment I'd be asking that question as a very serious matter of course. It was a terrible mistake that CCP let this go on as long as it has. Quote: Even you have to admit that CCP is handling these events badly. What happened to all that talk the last time to putting auditing in place for the devs? Yes I completely agree. None of this scandal and froth would have happened if CCP simply renamed the goon alt corp in the first place and allowed BOB to re-establish their alliance with the proper name for the bargain fee of 1b isk. Quote: What happened to the big internal investigation department and other nonsense that CCP told the media was going into effect to protect the paying customers from dev misconduct? How is the CSM going to help prevent the devs and GMs from making these kinds of mistakes? Well I'm not currently on the CSM of course, but if I had been chair when this matter broke back I'd have tabled the matter as a priority to take to CCP. I can see absolutely no justification for GMs not renaming the goon alt corp that blocked the reformation of band of brothers for the 1b isk fee. Hope this is informative. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Captain ULTIMATE Amarr Maximum Pulsing Golden Laser Geddongs with Lasers	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:48:00 - [655] Edited by: Captain ULTIMATE on 25/03/2009 18:48:10 I don't know, here's a reason: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1033628
Poopsock Alarmclock Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:50:00 - [656] Edited by: **sock Alarmclock on 25/03/2009 18:50:25 Originally by: Jade Constantine :words: Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? efb and I don't care crew checkin' in
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:50:00 - [657] Up yours Jade. Get back in your hole. OMG THEY RESSURECTED KENNY. THOSE BASTARDS.
Zeph1rus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [658] Edited by: Zeph1rus on 25/03/2009 18:53:47 Quote: Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples Hey Jade, how does it feel to always be horribly miserably wrong? Hope this was informative!
Shikome Alluin Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [659] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Shikome Alluin You can not ignore this! I know you will try though... Why on earth would I ignore this. Ok, you did not, actually there¦s some very good responses by you, I'm kind of surprised at the moment... Its a trap isn't it? :P - Aloha mr Hand
DeBleu14 Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:01:00 - [660] Originally by: Jade Constantine Using the precedent by precedent you mean t20 and aurora, right just helping you out there Jade buddy high fives all around is there anything asterisks can't do



Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 .. 23 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.