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Mystafyre Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:45:00 - [1] Rockets need some love from CCP. Give Caldari a chance to have fun with rockets! Come one, maxed out skills, 3x BCU T2 at lows, crow can make little over 110 dps with faction rockets! It really can't fit those 3x BCU because CPU ends when you try to fit the second lol. BUFF ROCKETS AND CPU ON CROW!! Blaster taranis does like 250 dps!!
Tykkis	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:55:00 - [2] hehe. don't compare ceptors to taranis. it's it's own class of ships called fotm. but rockets do royally suck!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:58:00 - [3] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/04/2009 16:58:49 Use railguns on a crow. Rockets are for wussies. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Mr Perkins	Posted - 2009.04.01 17:00:00 - [4] I am completely in favor of this, as long as rockets travel no further than 1 km!
fuxinos Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm	Posted - 2009.04.01 17:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Mr Perkins I am completely in favor of this, as long as rockets travel no further than 1 km! And to compensate this, Ranis shouldnt go faster then 1m/s.
Marcus Gideon Gallente Limited Liability Corp	Posted - 2009.04.01 19:14:00 - [6] I agree... rockets need buffed somehow. I keep seeing ships that are "meant" to use rockets, like the Malediction, Vengeance, and Condor. Now I know there are more ships than that... but almost all the others have bonuses for "missiles", which would apply to rockets as well. But a bonus which explicitly says "rockets" only applies to those. Rockets are a waste of time currently. If that is the only means of DPS, then you might as well try and tickle them to death. Anyone who has a bonus to "missiles" certainly isn't going to fit rockets when there are better out there. The only time I've considered using rockets was when I wanted something to draw aggro for my drone boat. And then I found out that even a Civie gun will work, and recycled the rockets and launcher instead. Rockets either need something significant to inspire their usage, or they need to go away. --- *Players aren't interested in Variety, they only want THE BEST.*
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.04.01 19:17:00 - [7] FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus.
CrimsonLobo Caldari Galaxy Punks Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.04.01 19:25:00 - [8] I miss the days of plated rocket Crows :(
Mystafyre Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.01 22:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Dirk Magnum FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus. So? I was making a point about rockets, not what bonuses Crow has. I have flown the blasteranis and it's pure sex, like Ishkur. Back in days torpedoes had massive range. Then they buffed the actual dmg and dropped the range, to make them as heavy hitting close range weapon system for Caldari, like autocannons, blasters and pulses. That was good change. When compared small autocannons, blasters and pulses, rockets just are awfull. Range is best of them, but damage is really weak. Call me crazy, but I would rather take some range away from rockets and raise the damage. You ain't shooting outside web range in blaster taranis eather.
Linnth Amarr Darkill Corp	Posted - 2009.04.01 22:26:00 - [10] So true. Flying a Vengeance, Malediction or Heretic and actually fitting rockets is next to a comedy fit. ------------------- Amarr: Getting screwed since 2005!

A'ruhn Caldari Intergalactic Spacegoats Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.01 22:59:00 - [11] This is why my rocket spec skillbook is languishing in my hangar, untrained. I want a reason to train it...
4 LOM United Gamers	Posted - 2009.04.01 23:31:00 - [12] Edited by: 4 LOM on 01/04/2009 23:31:37 Originally by: A'ruhn This is why my rocket spec skillbook is languishing in my hangar, untrained. I want a reason to train it... my rocket spec is trained to level 5..... think about how i feel? Rockets suck ass, not only on a pure dps perspective there explosion veolicty is as slow as a heavy missile (16m/s slower then a heavy assault missile) Why on earth does a weapon system for slow fast ships suck at hitting anything fast and do no dps to anything slow? Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
Vyllana	Posted - 2009.04.02 00:32:00 - [13] Yeah rockets need a major boost. Damage and explosion velocity both need a big boost, range can be cut a bit if necessary.
Faffywaffy	Posted - 2009.04.02 10:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Dirk Magnum FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus. FYI, it does.
Faffywaffy	Posted - 2009.04.02 10:57:00 - [15] Rockets are fine if you know how to use them.
fkingfurious	Posted - 2009.04.02 11:02:00 - [16] It is totally laughable that the explosion velocity of a rockt should be lower than that of a HAM. I mean seriously, WTF is going on with that? If they fixed that and maybe gave them a modest damage boost they'd be viable weapons. Theyre never gonna be top DPS weapon systems but they've got better range than other close range frigate weapons and even at point blank range the fact that they don't need to worry about transversal is a definite plus.
Adaera	Posted - 2009.04.02 11:22:00 - [17] Agreed. The only ship in the game where rockets are any good is on the Kestrel, and that's with a 50% damage bonus Doesn't that say anything to CCP? ___________________ I for one welcome our new bee overlords
Marcus Gideon Gallente Limited Liability Corp	Posted - 2009.04.02 13:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Faffywaffy Originally by: Dirk Magnum FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus. FYI, it does. FYI... the Crow doesn't get a "rocket" bonus, it gets a missile bonus. And anyone who chooses to fit rockets instead of something actually useful... needs counseling and medication. --- *Players aren't interested in Variety, they only want THE BEST.*
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.04.02 13:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Marcus Gideon Originally by: Faffywaffy Originally by: Dirk Magnum FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus. FYI, it does. FYI... the Crow doesn't get a "rocket" bonus, it gets a missile bonus. And anyone who chooses to fit rockets instead of something actually useful... needs counseling and medication. FYI, it does. Because rockets are missiles.
Linnth Amarr Darkill Corp	Posted - 2009.04.02 18:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Faffywaffy Rockets are fine if you know how to use them. lol, just because you got lucky against two noobs doesn't mean rockets are good. ------------------- Amarr: Getting screwed since 2005!

Faffywaffy	Posted - 2009.04.02 18:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Linnth Originally by: Faffywaffy Rockets are fine if you know how to use them. lol, just because you got lucky against two noobs doesn't mean rockets are good. I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader.
Master Technique Club Bear Turbo.	Posted - 2009.04.02 19:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Marcus Gideon Originally by: Faffywaffy Originally by: Dirk Magnum FYI Crow does not get a rocket bonus. FYI, it does. FYI... the Crow doesn't get a "rocket" bonus, it gets a missile bonus. And anyone who chooses to fit rockets instead of something actually useful... needs counseling and medication. FYI, it does. Because rockets are missiles. I wan't sure, so I checked it in EFT...sure enough, the Crow DOES get a dmg bonus for kinetic rockets. I also agree though that a rocket buff would be cool. Anything to create more viable options in pvp is great. ________________ Master Technique Latest Video:Never Gunna Stop
Linnth Amarr Darkill Corp	Posted - 2009.04.02 22:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Faffywaffy I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader. Right, that's what we're trying to say: A Rocket-Crow, fit properly will enable you to get lucky against random noobs. But that's it... ------------------- Amarr: Getting screwed since 2005!
Faffywaffy	Posted - 2009.04.03 09:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Linnth Originally by: Faffywaffy I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader. Right, that's what we're trying to say: A Rocket-Crow, fit properly will enable you to get lucky against random noobs. But that's it... Wooosh.
Tozmeister Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2009.04.03 14:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Faffywaffy I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader. It is, is it? +++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.04.03 15:07:00 - [26] Edited by: Gypsio III on 03/04/2009 15:11:15 Originally by: Tozmeister Originally by: Faffywaffy I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader. It is, is it? That's not a rocket Crow. Actually, I've been playing with Rocket Crow on Sisi lately, Once webbed and scrambled, an inty target is going sufficiently slowly to take ~full damage from rockets, and there's no real worry about ABs, unlike when rockets are used against T1 frigs/AFs. The Crow is a bit short on EHP - I suspect that a Malediction would be a better choice, despite its lower DPS - but it's been enough for me to win the three inty 1v1s I've had - even though I've no experience of interceptors outside tackling mission runners. Admittedly, two of those fights were easy kills of blaster Taranisesii, and so not very meaningful. But another was against a railRanis which died when I was in minimal armour. From EFTing numbers I hadn't expected to win that one... maybe I wasn't modelling its tracking or ammo choice properly. Hmmm.
Faffywaffy	Posted - 2009.04.03 15:45:00 - [27] Edited by: Faffywaffy on 03/04/2009 15:48:09 Originally by: Tozmeister Originally by: Faffywaffy I regularly get lucky against all kinds of newbs. The rocket crow, when properly fitted and flown is on par with a pulse crusader. It is, is it? Umm, you need to clean your monitor. That's not a rocket crow. You should have linked this, but what the killmail doesn't say is that the crusader was at 20% structure when I popped. I didn't say it was better -- I said it was on par. If I had fit a gun instead of that salvager, I would have most likely won that fight.
Tozmeister Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2009.04.03 17:11:00 - [28] This is the one i meant to link Also,you've lost twice in a 1v1 with a claw but you've never lost a crusader 1v1. but that's descending into smack and derail so lets not go there. back on topic, rockets suck. a rocket launcher on a vengeance with its +25% damage bonus and faction rockets does exactly the same damage as a completely unbonused 200mm autocannon with barrage. +++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.04.03 17:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Tozmeister This is the one i meant to link Also,you've lost twice in a 1v1 with a claw but you've never lost a crusader 1v1. but that's descending into smack and derail so lets not go there. back on topic, rockets suck. a rocket launcher on a vengeance with its +25% damage bonus and faction rockets does exactly the same damage as a completely unbonused 200mm autocannon with barrage. And has exactly the same optimal, right? EFT ftl. This isn't to say that rockets are fine. They're not - they're too fitting-intensive, they're too ineffective against ABing frigates and their base damage is simply too low. But a simple comparison of EFT DPS numbers without regard to optimals or tracking is not just meaningless, it's stupid.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.04.03 17:57:00 - [30] Edited by: Omara Otawan on 03/04/2009 17:58:21 Originally by: Tozmeister back on topic, rockets suck. a rocket launcher on a vengeance with its +25% damage bonus and faction rockets does exactly the same damage as a completely unbonused 200mm autocannon with barrage. While the AK will suffer a -50% tracking penalty from using barrage. Thats not good in high-velocity dogfighting... my guess is putting them against each other on interceptors the rocket ships will rip apart the AK boat in short order.



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