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Nubbin King
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:27:00 -
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People mine veldspar all over empire because it's worth more than mining anything else, and lowsec minerals scale poorly with it, especially considering the risk vs reward.
Since I know CCP hates buffing things, I propose a serious veldspar nerfto make other minerals worth more ISK to mine, and maybe giving a little relief to some of those near permanently stripped belts in highsec for the actual noobs who need them.
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I am The Nubbin King, should I defeat you:
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:28:00 -
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You didn't!!
Win a Nyx mothership for 10M ISK |
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:29:00 -
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Heritic!
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Th0rG0d
Caldari
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Nubbin King
People mine veldspar..... actual noobs who need them.
Ummm... Noobs don't need Veld anymore then older players. All ships require trit, that is why veld is mined. Not because noobs need it.
Why don't you go mine elsewhere? I don't have any problems where I mine, when I decide to do such a thing. There are more roids then I can laser
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Lazarann
Caldari
Darkstorm Command
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:31:00 -
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Oh snap, now you've done it.
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Nubbin King
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
You didn't!!
TBH, I know that even if CCP CONSIDERED my proposal, the Chribba effect would be so catastrophic that eve might implode upon itself and suck us all into a black hole, but you must understand that I had to go there anyway.
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I am The Nubbin King, should I defeat you:
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
You didn't!!
This.
Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature.
Proud ally of CVA |
SG commander
Caldari
Insert Name Here
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:32:00 -
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while your at it nerf rookie ships, they should explode instantly after undocking, or if it starts out in space it should implode after a few moments.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:33:00 -
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I humbly offer the service of ridding the Eve sector of the s****that is Nubbin King, to Chribba.
Payment in Veldspar, of course.
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Th0rG0d
Caldari
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:34:00 -
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I mine in Chribba's backyard, so clearly he isn't doing his job. 
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Gabriel Loki
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nubbin King
People mine veldspar all over empire because it's worth more than mining anything else, and lowsec minerals scale poorly with it, especially considering the risk vs reward.
Since I know CCP hates buffing things, I propose a serious veldspar nerfto make other minerals worth more ISK to mine, and maybe giving a little relief to some of those near permanently stripped belts in highsec for the actual noobs who need them.
If only NPC's sold an item that could be used for refining, to put a cap on the price of veld. You know, like the shuttles or something.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:38:00 -
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Okay, serious response time:
If you really want to fix the "Veldspar/Tritanium Issue" you need to reduce loot drops from high-sec missions.
All the mid-range minerals are pointless to mine since they can be acquired faster by refining loot from any mission.
Yes, I said that.
Nerf High-Sec Mission Loot
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:39:00 -
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Experts are calling this a troll.
Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature.
Proud ally of CVA |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:39:00 -
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Veldspar does not need to get nefed, it needs to get boosted. More Tritanium from veldspar means more Tritanium in general, more supply of Tritanium means lower price, lower price on Tritanium means other minerals rise in relation.
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Delphen Gruss
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:41:00 -
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I think the main reason Veldspar/tritanium is a selling at a high price is because it is used EVERYWHERE in almost everything that can be built. Which means there will always be a high demand for it, which in turn drives up the price
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Nubbin King
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Veldspar does not need to get nefed, it needs to get boosted. More Tritanium from veldspar means more Tritanium in general, more supply of Tritanium means lower price, lower price on Tritanium means other minerals rise in relation.
I'm thinking a nerf in veldspar yields would mean that by comparison, trit yields in other minerals would increase their value.
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I am The Nubbin King, should I defeat you:
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Delphen Gruss
I think the main reason Veldspar/tritanium is a selling at a high price is because it is used EVERYWHERE in almost everything that can be built. Which means there will always be a high demand for it, which in turn drives up the price
And, it's going up post-apoc because of the flood of newbies, and also because of the war in Delve (among other things, considering that area's quieted down). Basic economics, really.
Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature.
Proud ally of CVA |
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Veldspar does not need to get nefed, it needs to get boosted. More Tritanium from veldspar means more Tritanium in general, more supply of Tritanium means lower price, lower price on Tritanium means other minerals rise in relation.
Ahh! Practical application of basic economic principles! What's that doing here?!?
All that said, Abrazzar's right. You don't nerf veld in order to make it less profitable. You nerf reprocessing of junk loot in order to make high end minerals MORE profitable, which in-turn balances itself back out.
Without adjusting the supply, however, you can't expect the cost to change.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
You didn't!!
Visit upon him thy holy wrath wit thou veldatar!
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.17 22:03:00 -
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Veldspar shallt not be nerfe'd...
BECAUSE OF FALCON
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Zydrine Zidane
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.17 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
I humbly offer the service of ridding the Eve sector of the s****that is Nubbin King, to Chribba.
Payment in Veldspar, of course.
Agreed.
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mercyonman
Caldari
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.17 22:27:00 -
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dude
i don't think you know how things are run in eve ok
eve's economy is set up BY they player which then causes supply and demand. and right now with all the fleet/faction battles going on tritanium is a mineral in need and well veld is the ore that contains the most of it.
do you understand from September 1st the price of veld went up 100% and if you want to ***** and moan go take the risk eve is about risks i don't think you know that you pathetic piece of a miner. if you want to mine the veld the find hidden belts or go do missions cause i could find about 7 mill worth of veld in missions every other day. so quit your whining and grow up you noob
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Ganja Ree
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:10:00 -
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Let's not forget that the artificial cap on tritanium prices was removed not long ago.
And 40 per cent of all tritanium does come from reprocessed material.
And honestly, how do you nerf a ore?
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cat o''Ninetails on 17/04/2009 23:22:15
i got the most appropriate signature for chribba lol when i viewed this thread
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Ninetails/nerf_veldspar.png
edit: changed it to a link so the mods dont get cross with me lol 
visit my blog for my adventures
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Shadow Reapers
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.18 00:23:00 -
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Simplest solution: Reduce trit output of veldspar, increase trit output of lowsec ores dramatically.
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Nubbin King
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.04.18 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
Simplest solution: Reduce trit output of veldspar, increase trit output of lowsec ores dramatically.
This.
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Teamosil
Minmatar
Good Time Family Band Solution
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Posted - 2009.04.18 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
Simplest solution: Reduce trit output of veldspar, increase trit output of lowsec ores dramatically.
I'm not sure that is the best solution. Generally a certain volume of low sec/null sec ores refines down into a much lower volume of mineral than the same volume of high sec ore. A full iteron V hold of tritanium is worth maybe $20m, whereas it could carry oodles of ISK worth of megacyte. That is important because you probably need to transport the null/low sec ore much farther to use or sell it, potentially through dangerous systems. If you just start getting a bunch of tritanium out of low or null sec ores it would make the transportation problem more costly and problematic for people mining there, which would greatly offset the benefit of getting the tritanium in the first place. If you are mining 20 potentially risky jumps away from where you want to sell the tritanium it might not even be worth transporting it at all.
What I would rather see is for the blueprints to be adjusted to have higher requirements for rarer minerals and lower requirements for more common minerals.
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Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.18 07:59:00 -
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The Nubbin King leader of the noobmercs has spoken  .
stop using alts for trolling siriously ... ^^
I knows who u are !
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.04.18 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander
The Nubbin King leader of the noobmercs has spoken .
stop using alts for trolling siriously ... ^^
I knows who u are !
Please release his name so that the entirety of EVE can declare war on this blasphemer. How dare he insult the ore I mined for weeks when I first started?!
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Drae Fokker
Caldari
Polaris Squadron
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Posted - 2009.04.18 09:04:00 -
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Military Experts are saying that submitter may soon get a visit from the Veldtar.
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