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Tray LiSans
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Posted - 2009.12.02 23:05:00 -
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Supremely disappointed that such a heavily supported change got removed from Dominion. Bumping in the hopes that we see it come back.
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ZigZag Joe
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.03 07:10:00 -
[392]
Edited by: ZigZag Joe on 03/12/2009 07:10:24
 Originally by: Tray LiSans
Supremely disappointed that such a heavily supported change got removed from Dominion. Bumping in the hopes that we see it come back.
It wasn't widely supported - the AB role bonus in place of a 4th bonus (ie. it wasn't a role bonus, they put it at a 4th bonus) was pants on head ******ed.
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Krystal Flores
Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2009.12.03 08:08:00 -
[393]
AF dont need much, but they need a buff. For the price of a AF hull you can buy and fit a few Cruisers that are in almost all ways better than a AF.
A Hac does almost BS sized dmg and tank in a much smaller package for nearly the same price, this should be the case with AF, give them a slight dmg and bonus fix and they will be back in line with t2.
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Tray LiSans
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Posted - 2009.12.03 09:23:00 -
[394]
Originally by: ZigZag Joe
Edited by: ZigZag Joe on 03/12/2009 07:10:24
It wasn't widely supported - the AB role bonus in place of a 4th bonus (ie. it wasn't a role bonus, they put it at a 4th bonus) was pants on head ******ed.
I didn't mean the AB bonus specifically, although at least that gave AFs a better defined role in heavy tackle. I just meant ANY boost to them at all so that I'm not paying 25mil to do something I could do in better in a cruiser for maybe 5mil after insurance.
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Occams Legwax
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Posted - 2009.12.15 23:53:00 -
[395]
CCP seem to have dropped the ball after the AB idea.
Did anyone see where the ball went?
I have a horrible feeling it's going mouldy under a sofa somewhere 
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Efrim Black
Gallente
Guardians of Misr
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Posted - 2009.12.29 08:55:00 -
[396]
There are probably rules about linking off site, but his points are valid.
http://www.rifterdrifter.com/2009/11/assault-frigates-what-would-you-change/
In any case shamelessly bumping for some AF love.
I would love a signature radius bonus for my jag. x.x
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.01.07 08:37:00 -
[397]
I know this one is supposed to be coming real soon (tm) but just in case it doesn't.. (The AB boost was great, but perhaps a little too fast)
What happened to my AF boost? |
M Blanc
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Posted - 2010.01.07 10:21:00 -
[398]
Edited by: M Blanc on 07/01/2010 10:21:57
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I know this one is supposed to be coming real soon (tm) but just in case it doesn't.. (The AB boost was great, but perhaps a little too fast)
Meh, the Dramiel does 1.8 km/s with a T2 AB and an AF-like buffer; in that context, AB AFs doing 1.2 - 1.5 km/s (as they did with the 15%/level boost) doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
v0v
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.01.07 11:08:00 -
[399]
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2010.01.07 12:58:00 -
[400]
here's me hoping they'll put some more effort in finding specific bonus' for every individual AF then the "let's smack an AB bonus on". Better then nothing agreed, but still far from good
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Berendas
Monolithic.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 13:28:00 -
[401]
Do want. AF's haven't lived up to what they should be in, well... Forever. Also a second midslot on the Retribution would be nice
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Khanstruct
United Miners and Manufacturers Co.
High Treason Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 15:33:00 -
[402]
supported
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Insa Rexion
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:22:00 -
[403]
buff their base speeds to a little bit faster than theit T1 counterparts and give each ship a role defined 4th bonus like the afore mentioned tracking bonus.
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well mannered ****ole |
Koronakesh
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.01.08 05:08:00 -
[404]
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Jared Ulfsuun
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:09:00 -
[405]
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:42:00 -
[406]
Give them something, even if it's just something dumb like +5% cap per level so that they're hard to neut.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.01.08 14:47:00 -
[407]
20% per level to neut/nos resistance.
Curse pilots will hate them.
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nifty sunrunner
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Posted - 2010.01.15 17:23:00 -
[408]
Yep 4th bonus pls
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.01.15 19:16:00 -
[409]
-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2010.02.20 03:34:00 -
[410]
Dominion 1.1 is out, Tyrannis has been announced... and most AFs still pretty much suck. So, le bump! CCP, please do the following:
* Perform an internal rebalancing within the class such that all AFs can achieve similar utility to the Jag and/or Ishkur
* Add a fourth bonus, either as a role bonus for the whole class or new individual bonuses for each ship
* Consider reducing their masses/increasing their base speeds to match those of their T1 counterparts
Some additional and more specific desires, in no particular order:
* Swap the Jaguar's optimal bonus for tracking a la the Rifter
* Increase fitting room on the Wolf and Hawk
* Extra mid on the Enyo and Retribution; in fact, an extra mid + fittings to use it would be a pretty good addition across the line, but it's near-essential on these two
* FIX ROCKETS
* Bring back the AB boost, it was great :(
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Minkert
Caldari
101st Covert Ops
C. O. R. E.
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Posted - 2010.03.05 17:49:00 -
[411]
Bump
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Tagami Wasp
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:12:00 -
[412]
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+15% to railguns' dmg modifier
-reduce Spike optimal bonus to 70%
+10% to Caldari railboats PG |
Enzu777
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Posted - 2010.03.09 06:00:00 -
[413]
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yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
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Posted - 2010.03.09 12:39:00 -
[414]
One day the hawk will not suck, on that day I will a throw a party and crack open a bottle of champagne.
Sig_______
"Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth." |
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.09 13:22:00 -
[415]
speed. bump. agility. bump. 4th bonus. bump
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2010.03.09 14:06:00 -
[416]
AB boost was a good idea - just not to every AF.
It would make the enyo useful in pvp (dont say rail enyo) - get in at 1.5k with your AB, speed tank their guns while doing 400 DPS with blasters.
Doesn't make sense for every AF though, but it does for a few. Come up with some more bonii and spread them around
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Viibl Triibl
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Posted - 2010.03.09 16:15:00 -
[417]
Bumping this as I am about to enter AF territory skill-wise.
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Doccia Ellicis
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.09 22:41:00 -
[418]
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.03.11 19:38:00 -
[419]
Please revisit these ships to make them worth the price tag. |
Asterisk Grat
Best Path Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.12 05:44:00 -
[420]
AF are pretty useless class ship in the game.
I keep on buying new and coming back to them, and each time I come to the same conclusion - they are pretty worthless.
If you pack their maximum punch their tank melts, if you go for tank, it dps lacks.
They would be good if gangs in pvp used frigate size ships much, but thats very rare.
Most of engagements they come against cruiser size ships, then they don't do good damage, are slow, and pop.
With ceptors, you're small, you're fast, you dps is funny, but you tackle tackle.
simply said, there is not much sense and place for AF in todays gangs. Ceptors do much better. Lock fast, move fast, tackle fast, get out fast. AF just die fast.
I don't believe any 4th bonus will help much. CCP should have merged AF tank + punch, with electronic warfare bonuses (recon type) to begin with, then they would rock.
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Pure AF gangs is probably were they ok, but still don't happen much.
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