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Drenan
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.16 17:42:00 -
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I predict that ambulation will arrive in the november 2009 expansion...
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.05.16 17:45:00 -
[122]
Ambulation?
I'm still waiting for faction warfare. You know, the galaxy-spanning struggle with the shape of empires at stake?
Oh, right. Make that "a few constellations with nothing whatsoever at stake and nothing to struggle for."
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.05.17 16:06:00 -
[123]
Just a take a look at Anarchy Online and visit a main city location and you will see straight away why ambulation is a complete waste of time.
Hundereds of characters just standing around, dancing and posing in their oh so sparkly costumes.
Eve does not need it.
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Vid Eeomeet
Dark Sun Collective Dark Matter Consortium.
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Posted - 2009.05.17 17:08:00 -
[124]
Ambulation? Bah! It's hard enough to get people to undock as it is.
Anyway, I'd be happy if they invested some time and effort into getting their downloads right. I am still in the process of multiple downloads of the client. I haven't even been able to play since the latest apochrypha update.
Here's to hoping ambulation stays on the back burner until they get basic stuff like patches worked out.
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Maxwell Terallis
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Posted - 2009.05.18 02:46:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Beer (it'll be Quafe everyone; as INGESTING alcohol as a first person requires the rating to be M) Gambling Etc
Not happy. :(
Stop making things up.
I hate to use them as an example, but World of Warcraft has plenty of alcohol consumption, even affecting vision and movement when consumed, and the game is rated "Teen".
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.18 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maxwell Terallis
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Beer (it'll be Quafe everyone; as INGESTING alcohol as a first person requires the rating to be M) Gambling Etc
Not happy. :(
Stop making things up.
I hate to use them as an example, but World of Warcraft has plenty of alcohol consumption, even affecting vision and movement when consumed, and the game is rated "Teen".
If we drink enough Quafe will we get diabetes?
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Crimsons Storm
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Posted - 2009.05.18 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Originally by: Rastelle sooo ccp, Ambulation is it going to happen?? c/d
anyone know???
was it like the Cake???
It will be released when it's ready...
How very "BlizzardÖ«¬ pty. ltd." of you. :P
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Jerozon
Caldari MARINE RECON
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Posted - 2009.05.24 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alora Venoda
Originally by: Cerebus Alteri
yea i could see that workable that you do have a spare body somewhere that your conscious could be uploaded to. but in past dev talks about ambulation and combat that was not the case at all them claiming you would officially die. not that technology be advanced or the good ole retcon can fix the problem.
Well , maybe they could have NPC police officers in the stations ..Kind of like what we have in empire-space . Same thing that would happend , if we tried to pod someone in high-sec , we would get killed ..unless we are officialy at war with that person's corp . I believe it would make the game much more complex and interesting ,if we could kill or get killed in a station ( outside of our pods ) . It also opens the door to various other skills and markets ..Hand-guns , assault weapons , body guards / security industry , body armor , hand to hand combat ..etc
I believe eventually , EVE Online or it's descendent product ( future game born of EVE Online ), will allow us to walk around in our ships , carry passengers , marines .etc and dock with other ships ..( grapller / boarding class ships that force-dock with other ships , allowing us to assault and take them over . A fully immersive game .. similar to what we have now , but more personal and avatar oriented ( more realistic ).
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:11:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 24/05/2009 21:14:43
Originally by: Jerozon
I believe eventually , EVE Online or it's descendent product ( future game born of EVE Online ), will allow us to walk around in our ships , carry passengers , marines .etc and dock with other ships ..( grapller / boarding class ships that force-dock with other ships , allowing us to assault and take them over . A fully immersive game .. similar to what we have now , but more personal and avatar oriented ( more realistic ).
It's inevitable. First: It's the logical path of growth, of newness to the game. Just making the space bigger and bigger by adding new systems and new regions will get old with time.
We will see walking in stations, we will transport people in ships, we will build cities on planets. Then we will fight for all of that.
In 10 years, EVE will be a full fledged space based virtual reality, where you own your mansion on your own planet, and probably need to defend it.
EVE will integrate virtual real estate in Second Life style, dungeon grind from WoW on planets with exotic monsters, counterstrike FPS fighting, and good old space battles into one game.
You will be able to do everything in EVE what is imaginable to do in a virtual world, and this imaginability will grow exponentially within the next years. This will be the big difference between EVE of the future and today's games out there.
Read Tad Williams' Otherland, and you might understand what you are heading to as a pilot in EVE. We are just at the beginning. In 20 years we will lie in nutrition tanks or wear full force feed back suits and live in EVE, not just play it.
Ambulation is only the beginning. Wait and see.
Juwi Kotch
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Mercyman
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 24/05/2009 21:14:43
Originally by: Jerozon
I believe eventually , EVE Online or it's descendent product ( future game born of EVE Online ), will allow us to walk around in our ships , carry passengers , marines .etc and dock with other ships ..( grapller / boarding class ships that force-dock with other ships , allowing us to assault and take them over . A fully immersive game .. similar to what we have now , but more personal and avatar oriented ( more realistic ).
It's inevitable. First: It's the logical path of growth, of newness to the game. Just making the space bigger and bigger by adding new systems and new regions will get old with time.
We will see walking in stations, we will transport people in ships, we will build cities on planets. Then we will fight for all of that.
In 10 years, EVE will be a full fledged space based virtual reality, where you own your mansion on your own planet, and probably need to defend it.
EVE will integrate virtual real estate in Second Life style, dungeon grind from WoW on planets with exotic monsters, counterstrike FPS fighting, and good old space battles into one game.
You will be able to do everything in EVE what is imaginable to do in a virtual world, and this imaginability will grow exponentially within the next years. This will be the big difference between EVE of the future and today's games out there.
Read Tad Williams' Otherland, and you might understand what you are heading to as a pilot in EVE. We are just at the beginning. In 20 years we will lie in nutrition tanks or wear full force feed back suits and live in EVE, not just play it.
Ambulation is only the beginning. Wait and see.
Juwi Kotch
If this is the trigger for all that, EVE will be a big bang in future and I don't understand why some complaining for this ?
of cource should CCP fix all bugs and stuff before the ambulations ;)
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Alt lock
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Alora Venoda i think one of the problems that CCP must overcome with ambulation is the issue of it being "very shiny, but not practical". there really needs to be something to do other than chat while "ambulating"...
current games with 3-D ambulatory avatars all either keep you occupied with either combat/puzzle scenarios, or doing cosmetic stuff like decorating a house, or playing dress-up, etc. i can imagine having corp/alliance meetings via ambulation, but unless they add really cool interactive collaboration features, i don't really see how it would be worth the effort compared to ventrilo alone.
if they added fun mini-games, puzzles, gambling, or any other kinds of "indoor entertainment", i think it could become very popular even if combat isn't an option. if they included a way to decorate your own room or something, and change or even design clothes, i think ambulation may even get more girls involved in EVE... even if they don't ever leave the stations
who knows? maybe they will finally find a good use for that charisma attribute when they introduce new mini-professions involving player-owned lounges, casinos, and fashion boutiques
.... sign; they are adding stuff like that
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:52:00 -
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I just want to be able to sucker punch someone then run and hide.
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Vengal Seyhan
Minmatar Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:37:00 -
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All the people that don't want ambulation need to remember that it's being created as a technology and artwork tesbed for the World of Darkness (ie Vampire) MMORPG..... White Wolf want this, they want a large alpha / beta community for their game... and so that is Eve.
In some ways we're paying for future game development of another MMORPG, in some ways we might be getting free content expansion that we otherwise wouldn't. Complaining about it isn't going to do much - CCP can choose do what they want with the profits from all the subscriptions that we** give them.
Me, I was one of those people that asked my friend (three years ago before I even started playing), "how do you leave your ships"... He looked at me strangely and told me that I couldn't. It was the biggest obstacle to me deciding it was worth signing up for a subscription. I think Eve has something really missing, and ambulation would bring extra to the game.
And hell, it'd make Clear Skies 3 a lot easier (and prettier!) to make.
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MukkBarovian
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:44:00 -
[134]
I just ninja killed one of your dudes and now I'm running nekkid through your station while you camp me in with the uber blob!!!
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Miriel Amarinth
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:47:00 -
[135]
Originally by: MukkBarovian I just ninja killed one of your dudes and now I'm running nekkid through your station while you camp me in with the uber blob!!!
Sorry, unfortunately running will not be possible in Ambulation.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.25 02:11:00 -
[136]
Now you all do know that a nudist corporation will emerge from this right? You'll be able to identify them by their "uniforms".
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Apotamkin
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:27:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Neo Omni I'd LOL if it turns out that ambulation wont work on their server after spending so much time on it.
Just like the arena mod we were supposed to have.
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JitaBum
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:36:00 -
[138]
I was disappointed when someone from CCP said ages ago that seeing your ship from inside the station won't be possible/included.
Surely now that Eve has this 'picture-in-picture' thing, it might be doable?
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Silver Night
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 00:58:00 -
[139]
Originally by: JitaBum I was disappointed when someone from CCP said ages ago that seeing your ship from inside the station won't be possible/included.
Surely now that Eve has this 'picture-in-picture' thing, it might be doable?
I expect that this might be because given the scale of the ships, they would have to create an obscenely high resolution texture for each of them if seen from the POV of a person standing dock-side. |
Vio Lator
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:24:00 -
[140]
This whole "naked-demigod-swimming-in-his-whomplike-egg" thing just disgusts me since i beware it. It just feels wrong... there are ****pits at all shipmodels... hosting a crew of uncountable numbers... I want to get this "Firefly-MassEffect-StarWars-Battlestar-feeling" to sit inside my ships ****pit managing with all the alarm-blinky-buttons and yelling bridge-stuff around me. There are serveral new mmo's at the horizon promising this experience. Eve is such a good developed lore... would be nice to be more part of this world... not just a mmo player who is artificially seperatet from the rest by reasons of gameroutine.
regarts
Vio
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Aris Starshatter
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:47:00 -
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Seeing some battleships or even capital ships in the hangar, and seeing their actual size compared to a human would be reason alone.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Miriel Amarinth
Originally by: MukkBarovian I just ninja killed one of your dudes and now I'm running nekkid through your station while you camp me in with the uber blob!!!
Sorry, unfortunately running will not be possible in Ambulation.
stupid nano-nerf
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:16:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Aris Starshatter Seeing some battleships or even capital ships in the hangar, and seeing their actual size compared to a human would be reason alone.
All you'd see is a wall of pixels.
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Liability Insurance
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:20:00 -
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I see Ambulation as an opportunity to make your stats actually matter for something other than training.
For example, picking up missions could stay working in the same way, but if you went inside the station and talked to the agent in person your charisma stat would effect your reward. When buying goods one could go to the seller's hangar and then the two player's Int and Cha stats would pair up and compare, and whoever had the higher would get a better deal. Certain areas of stations might occasionally malfunction and whether or not you could pass through them would be determined by your willpower, otherwise you would have to detour or wait. Allow minigames that are influenced by your Int to effect Refinery and production yield (solving issues as they arise) Whenever players make contracts there may be a chance for a copy to be left behind, if one had sufficient Perception they could pick it up and read the details and perhaps ambush the hauler etc.
Stuff like that.
Also, perhaps they could add "Infiltration Modules" to Black Ops ships. Allow a player to get into the cargohold of a Black Ops ship and have his buddy fly it to a POS belonging to an enemy Corp. The Black Ops delivers the player to the POS and then the infiltrator has to sneak in MGS style to reach various targets such as the Corporate Boardroom which would allow him to view all levels of Corp chat, Navigation computer which would let him see the location of all of that Corp's ships in the region, or the Corp Hangars which would let him see what they contained. This would be countered by Internal Defense upgrades for POSs and corp members patrolling the halls. Any infiltrator that was caught could either be ransomed, executed, or probed, if anybody in the station had the skill, which would reveal everything he has said in the last 15 minutes and the location of any ships from his corp in the solar system. This would A) Give Black Ops ships a reason to be used B) Create a new and unique player profession C) add another level to corp intelligence gathering ops D) Just be plain fun.
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Buriko Kamakura
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vengal Seyhan All the people that don't want ambulation need to remember that it's being created as a technology and artwork tesbed for the World of Darkness (ie Vampire) MMORPG..... White Wolf want this, they want a large alpha / beta community for their game... and so that is Eve.
Vengal's post is the only one worth reading in this entire thread. This is why Eve is making Ambulation.
Nevertheless, I'll throw in my two cents again.
Ambulation will obviously benefit CCP in other ways, too. I have two friends who refuse to play until Ambulation is live. If I have two friends, then that means lots of other people have one or two friends, too.
I probably don't need to say more, but I will anyway.
Eve can only spend so much time building up the "space game." As it is, there are technologies and possibilities that only 10% of the player base will ever reach anyway. e.g, They've made Titans... of which, only a handful were ever built. If they were to continue to focus on this aspect of the game (technology building), they might get a 1%, 2% at most player base boost. Did Apocrypha, with T3 ships, get a huge boost in player base? I think not. I still see the roughly the same # of players online at any given time as I did pre-patch. Apocrypha and T3 ships will keep the hardcore community entertained for years; case in point, I have yet to see -one- T3 ship in person and it's been months already.
So in short, Eve can either continue to make content for old players, they can do bugfixes, or they can bring in new players. Bugfixes aside, adding Ambulation is guaranteed to bring in new players, so Ambulation it is. I assure you, when I told all my buds about wormholes and T3... even though I was impressed, they weren't. They want Ambulation... and they'll get it.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Amerilia
Make a little research first, you will realise you can actually DO things in the station.
/wave /dance /logoff
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 26/05/2009 17:58:09
Originally by: Buriko Kamakura
Ambulation will obviously benefit CCP in other ways, too. I have two friends who refuse to play until Ambulation is live.
And I have two friends who refuse to play WoW until Blizzard adds a spaceport in Ironforge.
You know you are so full of 5h1t your eyes are brown.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Amerilia
Make a little research first, you will realise you can actually DO things in the station.
/wave /dance /logoff
I didnt mean those....
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Ferdio Ricotez
Gallente Killer Carebears United Interstellar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.26 19:05:00 -
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If I must believe the rumours I've heard, Ambulation is fighting with Midas over winter 2009 release.
Y'know, Midas? The upcoming Industry patch that will finally give something to the carebears instead of just adding new stuff the PvP-ers can hurl at each other? I said it's only a rumour... -----
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie
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Posted - 2009.05.26 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa To be honest, Eris has given me little "bar dancing" to be excited about.
She has consistently said that the characters will be not scantily-clad and will be wearing more appropriate wear to complement the really crappy Teen rating they slapped on it.
Because of that, I am both saddened and a bit worried that the serious dark corners of ambluation will not be:
Bar fights Drug use Beer (it'll be Quafe everyone; as INGESTING alcohol as a first person requires the rating to be M) Gambling Etc
Not happy. :(
I agree. EvE is a dark world, WiS would be Hello Kitty if they stick to this rating, compared to dark and cold space. Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
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