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Ranger 1
Amarr
Dynaverse Corporation
Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.05.30 15:52:00 -
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Apparently, I did not spread my sarcasm on thickly enough.
My point was, as EVE grows and becomes a broader (and by virtue of this and even more incredibly unique and diverse game) people will tend to gravitate to the parts of EVE they like best... and that may not necessarily be the parts of the game we currently know and love.
This is a good thing.
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Jerozon
Caldari
MARINE RECON
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Posted - 2009.05.30 20:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Ranger 1
Apparently, I did not spread my sarcasm on thickly enough.
My point was, as EVE grows and becomes a broader (and by virtue of this and even more incredibly unique and diverse game) people will tend to gravitate to the parts of EVE they like best... and that may not necessarily be the parts of the game we currently know and love.
This is a good thing.
I wasn't necessarily directing those remarks to you ( whoever wrote that piece of sarcasm , which I actually liked and found quite interesting ) ..But to those serious ambulation gripers ..Whenever I read one of their hit pieces on ambulation , I just say to my self " stay in your freaking ship then " . That's it ..Don't like the idea of going out for a stroll , then stay floating in your darn pod and let others do what they like .
For me , the more options the better , within reason . I don't want to see orcs or elvs ..although if done correctly , I wouldn't be against introducing an alien race or two .
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Pnandor
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:53:00 -
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I checked around on the surrounding has seen anything BRUTALIZE!
all who are against WIS is just small isk sellers who try to defend themselves
in the forum to conjure hella time ush!
I get so tired of these negative troll who tries to rule over CCP.
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Noix Arikani
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Edited by: Neo Omni on 28/04/2009 22:26:34
Edited by: Neo Omni on 28/04/2009 22:22:56
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Neo Omni
Originally by: Zeba
If ambulation whenever it arrives has no seedy low sec bars with nubile well rendered and animated minmatar(or gallente as they tend to have some big ole jubblies) go-go girls dancing on my table then I will consider it a total wash. 
Well considering they got rid of the pleasure hubs, expect Sunday school sermons at the bars.
BTW.....Zeba? Arent you a chick? Or do you just swing that way?
I'm a g.i.r.l. but will not hesitate to see some minmatar on minmatar same sex action. Will be entertaining for all the other bar patrons.  Also ccp did not remove the pleasure hub girl due to lewdness, that was a dumb thread much like the ones you make that had a photoshopped pic of a nekkid pleasure hub girl with the claim that was the reason ccp pulled it. They really removed it cause they haven't been arsed to redo it for premium graphics the lazy bums. 
Time for another bring back the Pleasure Hub station interiour thread it seems.
I hear you. I'm a cowboy myself (not the brokeback kind) , but I'm actually a lesbian. Here's my story:
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An old cowboy sat down at the bar and ordered a drink. As he sat sipping his drink, a young woman sat down next to him. She turned to the cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "Well, I've spent my whole life, breaking colts, working cows, going to rodeos, fixing fences, pulling calves, bailing hay, doctoring calves, cleaning my barn, fixing flats, working on tractors, and feeding my dogs, so I guess I am a cowboy."
She said, "I'm a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. As soon as I get up in the morning, I think about women. When I shower, I think about women. When I watch TV, I think about women. I even think about women when I eat. It seems that everything makes me think of women."
The two sat sipping in silence.
A little while later, a man sat down on the other side of the old cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out I'm a lesbian."
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Su Yildiz
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Posted - 2009.06.02 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Su Yildiz on 02/06/2009 09:15:27
The WiS gripers are bugging about ambulation being worked on and not their precious "fixes" to the allegedly bugged gameplay.
Now... There are a few things that needs work that is already in the game. But what people fail to realize is that WiS is being developed alongside the normal bugfixes and regular expansions.
Remember guys, CCP is a company that is peddling a gaming-service, naturally they would like to enrich that as much as possible during its lifecycle - before.. god forbid ... they move on to other more revenue-generating projects.
So - Don't fret guys, I'm quite sure the usual bugs etc are being worked on even though WiS is being developed.
Either way, its not like you can just slap a bunch of gfx guys, sound-engineers and 3d modellers into becoming python-bughunting-heroes.
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Ivy Scorn
Amarr
Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.06.02 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ivy Scorn on 02/06/2009 12:57:37
Edited by: Ivy Scorn on 02/06/2009 12:56:14
Originally by: Su Yildiz
Don't fret guys, I'm quite sure the usual bugs etc are being worked on even though WiS is being developed.
Either way, its not like you can just slap a bunch of gfx guys, sound-engineers and 3d modellers into becoming python-bughunting-heroes.
That is a concept that - no matter how often you explain it - will still not be understood by everyone. Neither is the concept of objectivity and that your pet peeves are not neccessarily those of everyone else.
Some people truely believe that 0.sec issue xyz matters more to the majority of players than a new gameplay dimension like WiS. (Pretty unrealistic given current highsec population.) Likewise, to some people nothing is more important than seeing their own character walzing around in stations.
When I read through the CSM campaigns I came across one guy who thought that the true nature of eve was 0.0 (no exact quote). No matter how big the letters are, some people still don't understand the word "sandbox". Ever played in the sand without any tools? Yeah, it's been a while, but I would imagine that if I had, it would have been pretty boring.
WIS is just another tool. Use it, or leave it be. Stop *****ing about the other boys' tools.
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Raukho
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.06.02 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Su Yildiz
Now... There are a few things that needs work that is already in the game. But what people fail to realize is that WiS is being developed alongside the normal bugfixes and regular expansions.
Remember guys, CCP is a company that is peddling a gaming-service, naturally they would like to enrich that as much as possible during its lifecycle - before.. god forbid ... they move on to other more revenue-generating projects.
So - Don't fret guys, I'm quite sure the usual bugs etc are being worked on even though WiS is being developed.
Either way, its not like you can just slap a bunch of gfx guys, sound-engineers and 3d modellers into becoming python-bughunting-heroes.
You realy beleive that no resource from the current EVE is used to develop Ambulation? For sure the revenue of the current customers is being used. If you look at the last couple of patches and what they did to the game and the quality they were in when launched I'd say they are really subpar. T3 to expensive and to boring to get one yourself (endless grinding of sleepers). Industry revamp Orca + Alchemy (fail) + ........
Personally I doubt that it's very high on the average players whish list if at all. I haven't seen Ambulation as a subject of discussion on forums, alliance chat etc in the time that I've been playing. Concerns I do hear are:
Boring PVE
Industry revamp
Super captials
Blobs and the size of powerblocks.
I've never met somebody ingame that said I really want to walk inside a station after next patch.
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Ivy Scorn
Amarr
Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.06.02 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Raukho
Personally I doubt that it's very high on the average players whish list if at all. I haven't seen Ambulation as a subject of discussion on forums, alliance chat etc in the time that I've been playing.
Wrong. I'm fairly certain Ambulation is one of the major hype contributors. "I heard you'll even be able to walk around in space stations and on planets" is a very common thing to read when people that don't yet play eve talk about it in gaming forums. Nobody talks about wormholes or tech3, industry or supercaptital annoyances.
If you'd spend some time in the help channels you'd also know that new players ask about it on a daily basis, often disappointed when they hear that it's not coming anytime soon.
Originally by: Raukho
Boring PVE
Industry revamp
Super captials
Blobs and the size of powerblocks.
Short of maybe the "Boring PVE", none of these issues are suitable to be corrected by CCP's artists, right? Only some of the issues require more than trivial amounts of programmer-time. So what do you think these people (that get paid nonetheless) should do while the gamedesigners make up their minds about how blobbing could be discouraged or how industry would be more fun?
Right: Work on new stuff. Preferably stuff that get's eve into the public, something to hype about or even stuff for an article in gaming magazines - which also means stuff that makes for good screenshots. I'd say Ambulation would qualify.
Originally by: Raukho
I've never met somebody ingame that said I really want to walk inside a station after next patch.
Then let's just say I've met enough for the two of us and that your perceptual filters might require some downward-adjusting :)
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Tobin Shalim
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.06.02 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Just a quick message. Ambulation is not dead, we have people working on it and improving it further. We are working on the core of Ambulation ( it¦s still walking, in stations..not that core, a different core). We don¦t want to release something that we don¦t feel 100% confident about and that¦s why it¦s taking its time. We don¦t want to cut corners with it. It¦s done when it¦s done and that¦s when we are very happy with it and we believe in it.
In short, we want it to be bloody good and that takes time. 
Eris, thanks for the update.
However, have you seen the sorry state of Eve post-patches? Apocrypha being a good example. No offense, but your statement about 100% doesn't ring true to me, especially after the boot.ini deal.....
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Originally by: Gierling
Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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Arran Ramir
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Posted - 2009.06.02 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Arran Ramir on 02/06/2009 17:23:43
I dont care if ambulation takes a long time too get released, but it shoudnt be prosponed into oblivion..
I think it should ADD something too EvE, not just walking in stations, but really give it a purpose within the EvE universe, not going deeper into this, there are enough examples of that too be found by other players here on the forums, and i hope a bit that CCP inplements some of those idears into ambulation.
Also like many will agree with me, i hope ambulation isnt high on the priority list with CCP, but working hard on iron out the bugs and fixing stuff thats allready in the game but broken, or outdated and in need of a overhaul instead of focussing a half baked option named walking on stations, and work on ambulation when there is time and space left for doing so.
I'm not against ambulation like some people are, but i do think, there are atm more pressing issues with EvE as too add Ambulation asap
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.03 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Nib on 03/06/2009 06:00:52
I was just watching some of the ambulation vids on you-tube from a year or two ago and it's still really exciteing.
Just really damn cool.
(btw- !Threadomancy!
... kinda)
edit - Also I hope there are moving sidewalks, because thats what sci-fi is all about. I'll pod my alt otherwise.
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Mercyman
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.03 15:47:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Jin Nib
Edited by: Jin Nib on 03/06/2009 06:00:52
I was just watching some of the ambulation vids on you-tube from a year or two ago and it's still really exciteing.
Just really damn cool.
(btw- !Threadomancy!
... kinda)
edit - Also I hope there are moving sidewalks, because thats what sci-fi is all about. I'll pod my alt otherwise.
Why not the MOONWALK
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N Ano
Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:08:00 -
[253]
dear lord, when this patch comes ill be sitting in a bar in eve with my rl buddies instead of going to the movies or to eat...
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Pnandor
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Pnandor on 03/06/2009 18:26:58
Originally by: Mercyman
Originally by: Jin Nib
Edited by: Jin Nib on 03/06/2009 06:00:52
I was just watching some of the ambulation vids on you-tube from a year or two ago and it's still really exciteing.
Just really damn cool.
(btw- !Threadomancy!
... kinda)
edit - Also I hope there are moving sidewalks, because thats what sci-fi is all about. I'll pod my alt otherwise.
Why not the MOONWALK
This is much better
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Pnandor
Edited by: Pnandor on 03/06/2009 18:26:58
Originally by: Mercyman
Originally by: Jin Nib
Edited by: Jin Nib on 03/06/2009 06:00:52
I was just watching some of the ambulation vids on you-tube from a year or two ago and it's still really exciteing.
Just really damn cool.
(btw- !Threadomancy!
... kinda)
edit - Also I hope there are moving sidewalks, because thats what sci-fi is all about. I'll pod my alt otherwise.
Why not the MOONWALK
This is much better
Lol, if that was available to player no one would be walking normaly. If they included that and dancing no one would ever play the game again 
Also I hope that Bar's arnt the only option to install in those sockets, every station would end up with like 50 bars.
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Corselia lockheart
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:49:00 -
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if amb is only for me to walk to my agent and board my ships, then no its a waste. let me talk to my agents from other systems instead.
if amb is a corp HQ, real player owned space and gambling n such, yesss im all in.
however i think fighting FPS or boarding ships is not somthing that will not work or needed.
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Pnandor
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: Pnandor
Edited by: Pnandor on 03/06/2009 18:26:58
Originally by: Mercyman
Originally by: Jin Nib
Edited by: Jin Nib on 03/06/2009 06:00:52
I was just watching some of the ambulation vids on you-tube from a year or two ago and it's still really exciteing.
Just really damn cool.
(btw- !Threadomancy!
... kinda)
edit - Also I hope there are moving sidewalks, because thats what sci-fi is all about. I'll pod my alt otherwise.
Why not the MOONWALK
This is much better
Lol, if that was available to player no one would be walking normaly. If they included that and dancing no one would ever play the game again
Also I hope that Bar's arnt the only option to install in those sockets, every station would end up with like 50 bars.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Unnecessary - Mitnal
Originally by: Alora Venoda
i think one of the problems that CCP must overcome with ambulation is the issue of it being "very shiny, but not practical". there really needs to be something to do other than chat while "ambulating"...
current games with 3-D ambulatory avatars all either keep you occupied with either combat/puzzle scenarios, or doing cosmetic stuff like decorating a house, or playing dress-up, etc. i can imagine having corp/alliance meetings via ambulation, but unless they add really cool interactive collaboration features, i don't really see how it would be worth the effort compared to ventrilo alone.
if they added fun mini-games, puzzles, gambling, or any other kinds of "indoor entertainment", i think it could become very popular even if combat isn't an option. if they included a way to decorate your own room or something, and change or even design clothes, i think ambulation may even get more girls involved in EVE... even if they don't ever leave the stations 
who knows? maybe they will finally find a good use for that charisma attribute when they introduce new mini-professions involving player-owned lounges, casinos, and fashion boutiques
An intelligent reply...thank you.
It would be good to have contracts and other personal transactions moved to ambulation.
The only end result of that would be the same exact functionality as today but it would take longer to accomplish. Why do you want to nerf the contract system by only allowed contracts while docked? How does this improve the game?
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pharago
it looked very polished and close to be ready in the last fanfest videos, so i want to think it's almost completed, i'd say that by the end of the year or middle of next year we might be walking around outside our pods, unless there's an official announcement from CCP, only time will tell
What's the game mechanic?
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cerebus Alteri
here is to hoping there will be texas hold em, blackjack, 5 and 7 card stud, omaha hi lo, chess, maybe even slots for the "likes to pull a handle crowd."
Why does this require ambulation? Why should I have to stop what I'm doing, travel to your physical location, and dock up to play games?
Any games added will see so much more utilization if you can play them from anywhere.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Originally by: Rastelle
sooo ccp, Ambulation is it going to happen?? c/d
anyone know???
was it like the Cake???
Walking in Stations / Ambulation is being worked on. There's art on hard drives, code running, server code running and people working on designs. We did a small preview at last fanfest, got a lot of positive ( and not so positive ) feedback, and are iterating on the designs. It will be released when it's ready...
No mention of game mechanic or a reason to use it though.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:06:00 -
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Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Rosefine
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:11:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
Yoy have soooooooooooo wroooooooooooooooong litle kid!
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Rastelle
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
i hope they dont as eve needs to expand, with SW:TOR having released a pretty amazing cinematic trailer recently, alot of people may be tempted to move once it comes online (i know i am) 
in anycase YaY for me getting a 9 page thread lol
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:15:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Rastelle
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
i hope they dont as eve needs to expand, with SW:TOR having released a pretty amazing cinematic trailer recently, alot of people may be tempted to move once it comes online (i know i am)
in anycase YaY for me getting a 9 page thread lol
That expansion should be into space, not by giving people further reason to dock up.
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Jita 4, the new Goldshire Inn.
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Rastelle
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:23:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Rastelle
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
i hope they dont as eve needs to expand, with SW:TOR having released a pretty amazing cinematic trailer recently, alot of people may be tempted to move once it comes online (i know i am)
in anycase YaY for me getting a 9 page thread lol
That expansion should be into space, not by giving people further reason to dock up.
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Jita 4, the new Goldshire Inn.
but you can only have so much space .... then what, eve needs to evolve |
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Our new vision for Ambulation is that after 3 years new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That¦s our vision and we are working towards that. It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Originally by: Awesome Possum
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Our new vision for Ambulation is that after 3 years new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That¦s our vision and we are working towards that. It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
So basically you want EVE to be a sci-fi simulator more than just pew-pew and smack talk in local?
Sounds good to me, to be honest
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
after 3 years
It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
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Rosefine
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:44:00 -
[270]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Originally by: Awesome Possum
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Our new vision for Ambulation is that after 3 years new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That¦s our vision and we are working towards that. It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
So basically you want EVE to be a sci-fi simulator more than just pew-pew and smack talk in local?
Sounds good to me, to be honest
Boy's can't handle smack talks in local because they are so shy!
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