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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
257
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:23:00 -
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I believe CCP employees should not have playable characters on Tranquility.
Not because I fear their /TR ME JITA commands, because only specially configured characters can use them, and they are all tracked.
It's because it weakens the game.
You might sit back in glee that you just killed a character in combat, but he/she might (for all we know) be an employee of CCP and cares very little for losing a ship, or losing anything to be honest.
If Staff need to test - use Sinq. If Staff want to play this game - leave CCP and have a sense of pride over your character. If Staff are not using their free account - delete it (some devs cannot even be bothered to create an avatar ffs, shows they care, doesn't it)
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1837
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:25:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote: Yeah but you go by that we'll never be able to talk about anything in EVE-O ever again
Well, he didn't say ban. Removing the more vicious unsubstansiated accusations would be appropriate. As to the latter, you have a point. even that though, from the more tinfoily will enflame their opinion that theyre right CAUSE their post got snipped
That's a win/win situation though.
We don't have to suffer through the same regurgitated nonsense that has long since lost it's entertainment value, and their life is give some form of tenuous validation... quite possible saving them from self inflicted harm they might otherwise do themselves as a result of being a laughing stock.
I would consider it a not only a public service, but a humanitarian act. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:26:00 -
[513] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote: Yeah but you go by that we'll never be able to talk about anything in EVE-O ever again
Well, he didn't say ban. Removing the more vicious unsubstansiated accusations would be appropriate. As to the latter, you have a point. even that though, from the more tinfoily will enflame their opinion that theyre right CAUSE their post got snipped That's a win/win situation though. We don't have to suffer through the same regurgitated nonsense that has long since lost it's entertainment value, and their life is give some form of tenuous validation... quite possible saving them from self inflicted harm they might otherwise do themselves as a result of being a laughing stock. I would consider it a not only a public service, but a humanitarian act.
Lol Sreegs'; is gonna be busy, unless theyre gonna charge the ISDs with it. Youre talking like half the active threads nowadays http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1391
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:30:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote: Yeah but you go by that we'll never be able to talk about anything in EVE-O ever again
Well, he didn't say ban. Removing the more vicious unsubstansiated accusations would be appropriate. As to the latter, you have a point. even that though, from the more tinfoily will enflame their opinion that theyre right CAUSE their post got snipped
I'm afraid that when it comes to reality those opinions really aren't relevant to either current legal practice or our obligations to our employees. Having an opinion isn't carte blanche to character assassinate no matter how much you like your spaceships.
Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1837
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:42:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote: Yeah but you go by that we'll never be able to talk about anything in EVE-O ever again
Well, he didn't say ban. Removing the more vicious unsubstansiated accusations would be appropriate. As to the latter, you have a point. even that though, from the more tinfoily will enflame their opinion that theyre right CAUSE their post got snipped I'm afraid that when it comes to reality those opinions really aren't relevant to either current legal practice or our obligations to our employees. Having an opinion isn't carte blanche to character assassinate no matter how much you like your spaceships. Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement.
Rest assured, the vast majority of us are in complete agreement with you, all jokes aside. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
560
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:45:00 -
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This thread gives me a headache.
Free-áKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
263
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:48:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote: Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement.
Just because some people over play things, doesn't mean that the concerns of the more reasonable players are groundless.
Two recent examples that have certainly raised a few eye brows are Soundwave tendency to lock threads critical of Goons and the seemingly priority petition queue enjoyed by the Goons. My petitions always seem to take days or weeks to be answered I've rarely had a petitions answered in hours never mind minutes.
When allegations are made in most free western countries, the police (authorities) investigate and if necessary collect the evidence, not expect the public to do it. Internal Affairs needs to be more pro-active and seen to be so. However I don't believe that means the Dev should automatically loose their job, but lesser punishments for lesser transgression would make this less of all or nothing scenario. e.g. lose the Character in the alliance is appropriate for creating a conflict of interest by seeming to favour that alliance. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
410
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:50:00 -
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This thread is horrible and many of you should feel ashamed for lowering your standards that far down to post in it. You may as well sell your humanity while you are at it. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
560
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:52:00 -
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Wyke Mossari wrote:
Two recent examples that have certainly raised a few eye brows are Soundwave tendency to lock threads critical of Goons
Mainly this is because most threads created about Goons are the same whining nonfactual accusations, that do nothing but clog the forums up.
Free-áKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:55:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Malphilos wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote: YOU AND ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE MESSING WITH REAL PEOPLES LIVES AND FAMILIES HERE
Wait... you think CCP is going to fire someone over this thread? No, but I do think it's ****** up to try and damage a company reputation because your gun mining got nerfed. It was gun mining for you, wasn't it? Ed: Actually sorry, I mixed you up with someone else. My apologies.
Thanks, no worries.
And quite honestly some of the more inane and hysterical defenses of something that never even happened are doing more damage than the baseless claims themselves. The smart play was made early: "We have a process, here it is, but you'll have to give us something real".
Nothing beyond that makes anything better.
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HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:56:00 -
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i dont know what the big fuss is, all goon forum accounts are just alts of npc corp players |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:00:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I don't think you understood my post. The excuse of Icelandic law COULD very well be valid. Since it seems it falls heavily on contracts and unions. That doesn't mean that the agreements and contracts they have NOW is the same as they where when T20 happened. So while HE might have gotten away with it THEN, they probably can't get away with it NOW due to contract/agreement changes because of what happened.. How long ago was T20? Almost 5 years? That's a long time in law. t20 "got away with it" because CCP discovered his misconduct about half a year before the players did while half the company was on vacation |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1393
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:03:00 -
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Wyke Mossari wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement.
Just because some people over play things, doesn't mean that the concerns of the more reasonable players are groundless. Two recent examples that have certainly raised a few eye brows are Soundwave tendency to lock threads critical of Goons and the seemingly priority petition queue enjoyed by the Goons. My petitions always seem to take days or weeks to be answered I've certainly never had a petition answered in hours never mind minutes. When allegations are made in most free western countries, the police (authorities) investigate and if necessary collect the evidence, not expect the public to do it. Internal Affairs needs to be more pro-active and seen to be so. However I don't believe that means the Dev should automatically loose their job, but lesser punishments for lesser transgression would make this less of all or nothing scenario. e.g. lose the Character in the alliance is appropriate for creating a conflict of interest by seeming to favour that alliance.
Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence. Quite to the contrary. What we said is that if there's some basis for your accusations (which I presume one would have before they made any) then you should send it to IA.
Soundwave can't even lock threads to my knowledge which would put that one right up there with the rest of the baseless accusations which have been made in this thread. If you feel this is happening somehow you can send the locked threads in a list to IA and an investigation will be performed. THAT is how you do it. They will see who locked each thread and why.
Your request for IA to be open is as common as people asking for proof when it comes to our investigative process. The bottom line is that the nature of the job is such that this is never going to happen in many cases for legal reasons. You can keep banging that drum if you like but it's never going to become reality. You may as well ask to see everyone's HR file because it's the exact same thing.
I want to be clear as well that my posts were not a request but a rather pointed warning that the behavior in question is completely unacceptable. This isn't a situation where I'm lamenting impotently the loss of civility in the social discourse, but rather one where I'm stating quite pointedly that this behavior is going to cease one way or another.
"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:10:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote: Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence. Quite to the contrary. What we said is that if there's some basis for your accusations (which I presume one would have before they made any) then you should send it to IA.
Soundwave can't even lock threads to my knowledge which would put that one right up there with the rest of the baseless accusations which have been made in this thread. If you feel this is happening somehow you can send the locked threads in a list to IA and an investigation will be performed. THAT is how you do it. They will see who locked each thread and why.
Your request for IA to be open is as common as people asking for proof when it comes to our investigative process. The bottom line is that the nature of the job is such that this is never going to happen in many cases for legal reasons. You can keep banging that drum if you like but it's never going to become reality. You may as well ask to see everyone's HR file because it's the exact same thing.
I want to be clear as well that my posts were not a request but a rather pointed warning that the behavior in question is completely unacceptable. This isn't a situation where I'm lamenting impotently the loss of civility in the social discourse, but rather one where I'm stating quite pointedly that this behavior is going to cease one way or another.
Plenty of reasons have been given. Try answering them.
I especially like the 15 minute response time for Goon petitions.
I know, I know, they filed more than one petition and that NEVER EVER has that happened in a massive PvP game. NEVER EVER.
So having more than one petition is such a monumental event that it had to be responded to more than 100x faster than normal.
Needless to say, no information, nor the name of, the GM answering the petition will be released.
So you can conceal evidence all you want, but it doesn't make you look innocent. Quite the opposite.
And to be clear I strongly suspect that GM is a Goon friend and rendered the decision he did because he was a friend of the Goon.
Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum. |
Cutout Man
Archimedean Point
7
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:10:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:I could also tell you that there's a big difference between questioning a system (which can't be discussed in detail anyway) and making personal and libelous accusations on a public forum. That simply won't be tolerated and is what many of those responses refer to. If CCP employees are so easily trolled and possess so little restraint, one wonders about their ability to maintain self control. If they feel compelled to respond with snark under their own name, will that compulsion lead to further action under some other name? Ingame actions? Petty bannings and forum pruning? GM's who recognize a name and deny petitions? Are my account details being relayed to Mittens via cell phone? Who knows? The flip side of secrecy is the inability to prove your innocence. We have to trust you. In case you haven't noticed, EVE has a way of destroying trust. It doesn't help that the things we're discussing have actually occurred. As I said previously, perhaps you should consider nice bland, stock responses for these sorts of threads. Jumping in with both feet to kick the asses of trolls is probably not a good thing. It just keeps the thread alive longer with a little blue tag that makes it all that more seductive. If the posts were truly libelous, then "not tolerated" should be manifested as bannings, deletions, and locks.
Personally, I think anything that might appear to be collusion betwee CCP and EUNI (another favorite target for these types of accusations) or Goons is simply a manifestation of a CCP initiative to help build long term good guys and bad guys into the game. Player driven content provides a lot of challenges and a consistent environment of aggressive, hostile acts is hard to keep going outside of RL. Why allow Burn Jita? Pissed victims want to inflict harm on their attackers. Why keep EUNI safe from wars? To keep noobs from quitting before they pay for their first sub. If people stopped placing the Goons at the top of the boogeyman list, they'd see most of what happens for what it is: RL business decisions.
PS- I love your anti-botting efforts and your dev blogs are always a good read. You might want to occasionally take a step or two back from things to realize that all of us posters are playing a game. The manipulation of reality is part of it. Accusations from random trolls shuoldn't lead to feeling insulted and libeled. You're just feeding them what they want. They have clearly ruffled your feathers. |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1397
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:19:00 -
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Cutout Man wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:I could also tell you that there's a big difference between questioning a system (which can't be discussed in detail anyway) and making personal and libelous accusations on a public forum. That simply won't be tolerated and is what many of those responses refer to. If CCP employees are so easily trolled and possess so little restraint, one wonders about their ability to maintain self control. If they feel compelled to respond with snark under their own name, will that compulsion lead to further action under some other name? Ingame actions? Petty bannings and forum pruning? GM's who recognize a name and deny petitions? Are my account details being relayed to Mittens via cell phone? Who knows? The flip side of secrecy is the inability to prove your innocence. We have to trust you. In case you haven't noticed, EVE has a way of destroying trust. It doesn't help that the things we're discussing have actually occurred. As I said previously, perhaps you should consider nice bland, stock responses for these sorts of threads. Jumping in with both feet to kick the asses of trolls is probably not a good thing. It just keeps the thread alive longer with a little blue tag that makes it all that more seductive. If the posts were truly libelous, then "not tolerated" should be manifested as bannings, deletions, and locks. Personally, I think anything that might appear to be collusion betwee CCP and EUNI (another favorite target for these types of accusations) or Goons is simply a manifestation of a CCP initiative to help build long term good guys and bad guys into the game. Player driven content provides a lot of challenges and a consistent environment of aggressive, hostile acts is hard to keep going outside of RL. Why allow Burn Jita? Pissed victims want to inflict harm on their attackers. Why keep EUNI safe from wars? To keep noobs from quitting before they pay for their first sub. If people stopped placing the Goons at the top of the boogeyman list, they'd see most of what happens for what it is: RL business decisions. PS- I love your anti-botting efforts and your dev blogs are always a good read. You might want to occasionally take a step or two back from things to realize that all of us posters are playing a game. The manipulation of reality is part of it. Accusations from random trolls shuoldn't lead to feeling insulted and libeled. You're just feeding them what they want. They have clearly ruffled your feathers.
Our employees and their careers are not part of your forum game and are off limits. That's the point. It's one thing to make a post like "JESUS GOONS ARE ALL DEVS". That's a terrible post but within the limits. "CCP Sreegs is running an RMT operation on the side and also runs a meth lab" is not. Does that make sense? It's not even a matter of what I do or don't like it's a matter of our employees right to not have our forum used to damage their individual and very real personal reputations or standing in their respective communities. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1397
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:20:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence. Quite to the contrary. What we said is that if there's some basis for your accusations (which I presume one would have before they made any) then you should send it to IA.
Soundwave can't even lock threads to my knowledge which would put that one right up there with the rest of the baseless accusations which have been made in this thread. If you feel this is happening somehow you can send the locked threads in a list to IA and an investigation will be performed. THAT is how you do it. They will see who locked each thread and why.
Your request for IA to be open is as common as people asking for proof when it comes to our investigative process. The bottom line is that the nature of the job is such that this is never going to happen in many cases for legal reasons. You can keep banging that drum if you like but it's never going to become reality. You may as well ask to see everyone's HR file because it's the exact same thing.
I want to be clear as well that my posts were not a request but a rather pointed warning that the behavior in question is completely unacceptable. This isn't a situation where I'm lamenting impotently the loss of civility in the social discourse, but rather one where I'm stating quite pointedly that this behavior is going to cease one way or another.
Plenty of reasons have been given. Try answering them. I especially like the 15 minute response time for Goon petitions. I know, I know, they filed more than one petition and that NEVER EVER has that happened in a massive PvP game. NEVER EVER. So having more than one petition is such a monumental event that it had to be responded to more than 100x faster than normal. Needless to say, no information, nor the name of, the GM answering the petition will be released. So you can conceal evidence all you want, but it doesn't make you look innocent. Quite the opposite. And to be clear I strongly suspect that GM is a Goon friend and rendered the decision he did because he was a friend of the Goon. Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum.
The IA email address which has been linked repeatedly is the perfect place for this post.
"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:23:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence. Quite to the contrary. What we said is that if there's some basis for your accusations (which I presume one would have before they made any) then you should send it to IA.
Soundwave can't even lock threads to my knowledge which would put that one right up there with the rest of the baseless accusations which have been made in this thread. If you feel this is happening somehow you can send the locked threads in a list to IA and an investigation will be performed. THAT is how you do it. They will see who locked each thread and why.
Your request for IA to be open is as common as people asking for proof when it comes to our investigative process. The bottom line is that the nature of the job is such that this is never going to happen in many cases for legal reasons. You can keep banging that drum if you like but it's never going to become reality. You may as well ask to see everyone's HR file because it's the exact same thing.
I want to be clear as well that my posts were not a request but a rather pointed warning that the behavior in question is completely unacceptable. This isn't a situation where I'm lamenting impotently the loss of civility in the social discourse, but rather one where I'm stating quite pointedly that this behavior is going to cease one way or another.
Plenty of reasons have been given. Try answering them. I especially like the 15 minute response time for Goon petitions. I know, I know, they filed more than one petition and that NEVER EVER has that happened in a massive PvP game. NEVER EVER. So having more than one petition is such a monumental event that it had to be responded to more than 100x faster than normal. Needless to say, no information, nor the name of, the GM answering the petition will be released. So you can conceal evidence all you want, but it doesn't make you look innocent. Quite the opposite. And to be clear I strongly suspect that GM is a Goon friend and rendered the decision he did because he was a friend of the Goon. Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum. The IA email address which has been linked repeatedly is the perfect place for this post.
I thought you wanted to have a chat about how baseless our allegations are?
Because I REALLY want to have a chat about how baseless our allegations are. |
Cailais
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
260
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:25:00 -
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"All of this has happened before and will happen again".
CCP got dragged into this largely pointless argument back when Band of Brothers was in the ascendency. Players demanded CCP withdraw from EVE and the games development took a nose dive as a result.
Conspiracy theories and tin foil hattery will always abound in EVE Online - if players don't trust the devs then they can take the ultimate sanction and vote with their wallets and unsub.
Its time to lock the thread.
C.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1837
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:26:00 -
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There is a big difference from having his personal feathers ruffled, and simply stating that outright slander is not allowed.
Nonsense like this thread can irritate and/or amuse the rest of us, but once the line has been crossed CCP is fully within their rights to put the hammer down on it.
As I stated before, nobody expects all of the threads on these forums be be based in fact. However when it comes to blantant accusations of professional misconduct then it steps over that line.
If you have substantiation, you know how to report it. Otherwise, people need to nip it. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1398
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:28:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence. Quite to the contrary. What we said is that if there's some basis for your accusations (which I presume one would have before they made any) then you should send it to IA.
Soundwave can't even lock threads to my knowledge which would put that one right up there with the rest of the baseless accusations which have been made in this thread. If you feel this is happening somehow you can send the locked threads in a list to IA and an investigation will be performed. THAT is how you do it. They will see who locked each thread and why.
Your request for IA to be open is as common as people asking for proof when it comes to our investigative process. The bottom line is that the nature of the job is such that this is never going to happen in many cases for legal reasons. You can keep banging that drum if you like but it's never going to become reality. You may as well ask to see everyone's HR file because it's the exact same thing.
I want to be clear as well that my posts were not a request but a rather pointed warning that the behavior in question is completely unacceptable. This isn't a situation where I'm lamenting impotently the loss of civility in the social discourse, but rather one where I'm stating quite pointedly that this behavior is going to cease one way or another.
Plenty of reasons have been given. Try answering them. I especially like the 15 minute response time for Goon petitions. I know, I know, they filed more than one petition and that NEVER EVER has that happened in a massive PvP game. NEVER EVER. So having more than one petition is such a monumental event that it had to be responded to more than 100x faster than normal. Needless to say, no information, nor the name of, the GM answering the petition will be released. So you can conceal evidence all you want, but it doesn't make you look innocent. Quite the opposite. And to be clear I strongly suspect that GM is a Goon friend and rendered the decision he did because he was a friend of the Goon. Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum. The IA email address which has been linked repeatedly is the perfect place for this post. I thought you wanted to have a chat about how baseless our allegations are? Because I REALLY want to have a chat about how baseless our allegations are.
Would you like an investigation to happen or would you prefer to just make posts on the internet? If you want an investigation to happen then you can send your issue to IA. Would that I could simply query the magical answer to every question ever asked on the spot database and spit one out for you, but I cannot. The forums are also not the place for this and I encourage you to check out the TOS. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
86
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:32:00 -
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WOW!! What a thread!!
I sometimes feel that there is a force outside EVE/CCP that continuously tries to screw this game up.
"Its about the mission Master. Its something... elsewhere. Elusive." |
Josef Djugashvilis
157
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:40:00 -
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Just lock the damn thread and have done with it. You want fries with that? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1838
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:42:00 -
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Quote:Discussion of this case and the evidence presented is all over this forum.
You do realize, that depending on the nature of the petition, a response within minutes is not that uncommon.
I have had personal petitions (concerning stuck issues or an exploit) and been part of larger group (fleet battle based) petitions that have received equally fast results. I have also had to wait a couple of weeks for a response for other issues.
It all depends on the nature of the petition.
Most people understand this. Most people also understand that all things "Burn Jita" related were being monitored closely for issues, both for player problems/issues and to make sure that no game breaking bugs surfaced.
Not being able to wrap your head around these very simple facts is a far cry from being some sort of "evidence" of favoritism or misconduct. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1420
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:45:00 -
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If you are known, you get petitions answered faster.
If I petition on Mr Epeen instead of one of my less known characters, it gets answered faster and is more likely actually read than auto-answered.
So it stands to reason that if I had a name like 'The Mittani', for instance, anything I petition will be noticed almost immediately and jumped to the front of the queue. It's just the way people are. They are attracted to the familiar. GMs included.
No tin foil. Just an observation on common human behavior. The tinfoil will come out when the sputtering denials start coming out in barred posts.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1628
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:46:00 -
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If CCP didn't play EVE we would not have had the corp bookmarks update. This thread is pointless. Only an idiot would expect a game company to NOT play their own game. A more logical and braindead common sense approach would be to request heavier policing of CCP accounts. Then again this entire thread is based on conjecture and there is absolutely no fact behind the OP's reasoning for making this thread.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:47:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:If you are known, you get petitions answered faster. If I petition on Mr Epeen instead of one of my less known characters, it gets answered faster and is more likely actually read than auto-answered. So it stands to reason that if I had a name like 'The Mittani', for instance, anything I petition will be noticed almost immediately and jumped to the front of the queue. It's just the way people are. They are attracted to the familiar. GMs included. No tin foil. Just an observation on common human behavior. The tinfoil will come out when the sputtering denials start coming out in barred posts. Mr Epeen
You do realize that petitions are sorted into ques based on different categories before people even look at them right? When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:52:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:If you are known, you get petitions answered faster. If I petition on Mr Epeen instead of one of my less known characters, it gets answered faster and is more likely actually read than auto-answered. So it stands to reason that if I had a name like 'The Mittani', for instance, anything I petition will be noticed almost immediately and jumped to the front of the queue. It's just the way people are. They are attracted to the familiar. GMs included. No tin foil. Just an observation on common human behavior. The tinfoil will come out when the sputtering denials start coming out in barred posts. Mr Epeen You do realize that petitions are sorted into ques based on different categories before people even look at them right?
As soon as I hit post, I knew I would see this almost immediately. Of course I know. And of course I am not comparing apples and oranges. I am basing it on response times from my own experience when submitting similar claims on different characters.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:53:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:If you are known, you get petitions answered faster. If I petition on Mr Epeen instead of one of my less known characters, it gets answered faster and is more likely actually read than auto-answered. So it stands to reason that if I had a name like 'The Mittani', for instance, anything I petition will be noticed almost immediately and jumped to the front of the queue. It's just the way people are. They are attracted to the familiar. GMs included. No tin foil. Just an observation on common human behavior. The tinfoil will come out when the sputtering denials start coming out in barred posts. Mr Epeen You do realize that petitions are sorted into ques based on different categories before people even look at them right? As soon as I hit post, I knew I would see this almost immediately. Of course I know. And of course I am not comparing apples and oranges. I am basing it on response times from my own experience when submitting similar claims on different characters. Mr Epeen
I know I've had some petitions that are answered within a few minutes to a few hours, and I've had some petitions answered within a few weeks. It all depends on what it is filed under. It's just like calling in to a call center, if there isn't a huge queue you get to someone faster. |
michael boltonIII
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:55:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:If you are known, you get petitions answered faster. If I petition on Mr Epeen instead of one of my less known characters, it gets answered faster and is more likely actually read than auto-answered. So it stands to reason that if I had a name like 'The Mittani', for instance, anything I petition will be noticed almost immediately and jumped to the front of the queue. It's just the way people are. They are attracted to the familiar. GMs included. No tin foil. Just an observation on common human behavior. The tinfoil will come out when the sputtering denials start coming out in barred posts. Mr Epeen
The shocking part is that nobody actually knows who you are. |
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