Good grief, someone ELSE is screaming about this?

Two little words: "Caveat emptor". If you don't like the game, vote with your feet.

As long as Goons play in a game people will complain about this.

As long as Goons play in a game people will complain about this.

So the solution is to just "remove" us all?

Uh oh ...

The solution is that Goons need to be banned from playing any video game, ever.

That would be amazingly healthy for us. It's probably a good idea.

You'd think so, but ...

It might be healthy for us, but it wouldn't be healthy for anyone else.

Oh my, is that so?

Who else would keep the drooling masses in line?

SirMolle.

Good grief, someone ELSE is screaming about this?

Two little words: "Caveat emptor". If you don't like the game, vote with your feet.

"Soundwaffe".

Christ

As before, any suspicion of developer misconduct can be reported to Internal Affairs via email or petition. Our email is [email protected]

That said, please note that we'll need something to go on, an event or character to look into. It's too common that we receive complaints which are based on a gut feeling, that can't be followed up on.

I'm mostly a hi sec player with an occasional roam into low when I get my buddies online. Having said that I seriously think that hi sec should quit whining and do something about it themselves. The supposed people who represent hi-sec players in the CSM could use their visibility to create some chaos at least. I'm not a huge fan of the goons, but at least they play and they have fun. If we don't like it we'd better show up or shut up.

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

People really need to see the bigger picture here

This game involves something called ISK.

Look at the income CFC gets just in a single day from their Preciouses (moons). And that's just moons. They get POCO taxes too, and apparently all T2 production soon.

Now add up the high sec incomes in total.

That's why nothing gets done.

To play devil's advocate here, the likelyhood of an outsider dealing with the effect of misconduct ever being able to provide proof is almost impossible. It would always be at best a gut feeling.

Anyone inside of an alliance, particularly a multi thousand man alliance with the ability to use a CCP insider for information, reaping the benefits would be foolish to come forward with proof. I mean who inside of the Swarm would risk the permanent wrath of those thousands of people permanently in EVE? What proof could even they provide unless they were hands on with the scam? If one man claimed such and 7999 claimed otherwise whos really going to win? If 8000 people told ccp drop the investigation or we will all quit and cost you millions what's really going to happen?

I have faith in CCP to handle things I suppose, but an incident has happened in the past, not a minor one either. There are valid points being made.

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I certainly wouldn't make an accusatory thread based on those "gut" feelings in a place of record either, but hey we all march to the beat of our own drums I suppose.

:edit: Go to your local police station and tell them your gut's telling you something fishy's going on with the local government. Make a really angry post on the internet about how they're part of the grand conspiracy when they explain to you that they can't help you because you've given them nothing to go on.

To play real guy in the real world here I typically don't formulate any kind of a conclusion unless there's some evidence that this conclusion actually exists. I certainly wouldn't toss about disparaging claims (some might say slanderous) about individual's honesty or ability to perform their job based on what my "gut" told me about someone I'd never met and knew only as a vague figure over the internet.

I certainly wouldn't make an accusatory thread based on those "gut" feelings in a place of record either, but hey we all march to the beat of our own drums I suppose.

:edit: Go to your local police station and tell them your gut's telling you something fishy's going on with the local government. Make a really angry post on the internet about how they're part of the grand conspiracy when they explain to you that they can't help you because you've given them nothing to go on.