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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:28:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Chris Starfire wrote:Here's a thought, If there's concern about DEV's taking advantage over other players with their CCP given DEV powers then don't allow their normal playing toon's any power over any other registered player in the game, this will keep the playing ground honest and they can play the game and feel a loss the same as any other player, so on that note, no transferring huge funds to their own toons from CCP registered toons and no special benefits to friends.
P.S: I don't have a problem with any of CCP's employees playing the game but keep them on the same playing ground as everyone else who is a paying customer.
[TROLLER'S NEED NOT REPLY AS I WILL PROBABLY IGNORE IT] Well, that's the thing. There is an entire section of CCP dedicated to ensuring that CCP player alts are unable to influence the game in that way. They even have an anonymous tip line you can use. already pointed it out earlier in this thread but the restructuring moved IA from the Statistics to the Security Team, so it is now under the supervision of CCP Sreegs  you can't escape the :tinfoil: Right, but what exactly does that mean? Does it mean the guy from IA can't walk across the office to the CEO's office and get his boss fired? A: No, it doesn't. In fact, it's his -ethical duty- as a security professional to do just that. [Assuming his boss was involved in something contrary to the rules and codes of the organisation he works for.] So what you're saying is that Goonswarm could ask Sreegs to fire Hilmar, and we could run CCP?
Is Hilmar giving out free titans?  |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
977
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:28:00 -
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I'm sure he could be. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:31:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:I'm sure he could be.
Well as long as all the facts fly in the face of logic or reason, then why not.
Free titans for everybody. |
Leisha Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:32:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Is Hilmar giving out free titans?
Yeah, didn't you know ?
They're handing them out at Jita 4-4
You just have to get them out of Highsec somehow
Or mail the Op and ask him what the secret is, he won't tell me..... |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
905
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:24:00 -
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"Soundwaffe".
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Kell Tarhun
The Crooked Path
En Garde
15
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:25:00 -
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In my personal opinion your post is true in way too much descriptive way. So you just made self inside troubles.
In my country there is a quote:
"Give a horse to guy so he can run away as he speaks true"....how about a space ship instead of a horse. |
Maeltstome
Epidemic.
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:27:00 -
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Years ago certain CCP employee's where caught giving t2 BPO's (Before invention) to BoB alliance... literally allowing them to print there own money for well over a year. I think CCP became more strict about monitoring employee activity after that though.
The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.
This isn't WoW, one persons success directly hurts other competitors in Eve and that means allowing employee's to play eve is really not a good idea. Trusting your staff is one thing, but thinking that every one of them is beyond reproach is simple gullibility. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:27:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:In my personal opinion your post is true in way too much descriptive way. So you just made self inside troubles.
In my country there is a quote:
"Give a horse to guy so he can run away as he speaks true"....how about a space ship instead of a horse.
Could you rephrase that? It didn't really come across well. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:28:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.
Why would you think database interaction like that wouldn't be logged and flagged for review? In places where I've worked, even just logging into certain databases raises alarms that need to be acknowledged.
But I'm completely sure that everyone at CCP can just log onto the production database whenever they feel like it with no sort of monitoring in place.
PS: A better solution than a simple database query is offering a 100m isk bounty for each money moon found. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:46:00 -
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I find it rather amusing that when suggestions are put forth by CFC members on the CSM or made by CFC members through reps on the CSM (and lo and behold, they benefit people other than CFC members too~) that this is some sort of sign of favoritism and not the system of suggest and receive working as intended.
Everyone whining about tech moons must have a short memory over the 30~ times that The Mittani himself pushed for a change in the structure of the tech bottleneck. Waving your arms and saying "but it hasn't happened yet" is pretty childish on face. I'd suggest making up your minds. Either we have CCP by the balls and they buy into all of our demands or they don't. If they aren't nerfing the tech that we have been petitioning them to fix, then clearly they don't take their marching orders from us.
I do find it rather funny the hate boner that some of these people have for the CFC for whatever reason so they can only see new things being added to the game (like the Tornados I personally love flying outside of fleets or in small gangs) as some sort of gift only to one group or another. If that were the case, I wouldn't have lost that one ratting drake to a Talos jumping into my anom. |
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David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:47:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:"Soundwaffe". Christ
Wear it with pride Sir! |
Hroya
42
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:59:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:"Soundwaffe". Christ
Actually i think it's a cool name. Do i refference it to some sort of organisation ? Nop. It's just a name.
A label doesnt dictate the contence.
My third name is Adolf. It was my uncles name who died in ww2. I wear it with pride. Poor sob shot himself in a bunker in Berlin and .. err .. oops!... nop ..that wasnt him. I mean he did die in ww2 but under completely different circumstances and was just an ordinairy child.
Dont worrie about such labels, someone who is labeled an idiot but is happy with his life can just shrug such labels off.
You go your corridor but. |
Enuen Ravenseye
Seniors Clan
Get Off My Lawn
38
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:00:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.
Or you could just go to Dotlan - you know, the very public website - and look up all that info for free.
Or do Goons somehow control Dotlan now too? My God, it's a conspiracy at the highest levels - Goons now control public websites as well as CCP! Is there no end to their power????
I bet those bastards are tied up with the world economic crisis too. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
625
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:03:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:I do find it rather funny the hate boner that some of these people have for the CFC for whatever reason so they can only see new things being added to the game (like the Tornados I personally love flying outside of fleets or in small gangs) as some sort of gift only to one group or another..
Mmm, a hate boner ... great image there.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1408
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:03:00 -
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Didn't read the thread but I'll just throw this in here.
Devs have access to every bit of information in the game. They know me. They know if I'm alt boosting a thread. They know which other accts are on my credit card. They know which other accts are linked to my email. They know which corps all my characters are in.
In other words, they know every spy in the game. This can be a big temptation for a DEV in a large alliance and information that can be given with no risk to his job.
That is one example. There are dozens of ways the game can be skewed without real life risk to someone with no morals. And let's face it... no morals is the cornerstone of this game. This should rightfully be a concern to regular players.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Josef Djugashvilis
153
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:04:00 -
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This really needs to stop.
If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.
Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.
You want fries with that? |
Dray Cil
Dragonfire Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:06:00 -
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I'm starting to remember why I quit the game after 2 years of play 2005-2007. The whole dev-inside-BoB controversy (especially when I was in the middle of the nullsec wars) pissed me off so much I ragequit.
Came back in february of this year (new character) and I'm hearing the same old **** again. I had hopes with the "internal affairs" dept. but even that is corrupt.
Dray
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Dray Cil
Dragonfire Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:07:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This really needs to stop.
If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.
Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.
How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter!
BRILLIANT!
Dray |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3697
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:10:00 -
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Hroya wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:"Soundwaffe". Christ Actually i think it's a cool name. Do i refference it to some sort of organisation ? Nop. It's just a name. A label doesnt dictate the contence. My third name is Adolf. It was my uncles name who died in ww2. I wear it with pride. Poor sob shot himself in a bunker in Berlin and .. err .. oops!... nop ..that wasnt him. I mean he did die in ww2 but under completely different circumstances and was just an ordinairy child. Dont worrie about such labels, someone who is labeled an idiot but is happy with his life can just shrug such labels off.
Yeah it's not that he's being linked to a certain unitesticular middle european dictator, but that he's being linked to Goonwaffe.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Josef Djugashvilis
153
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:11:00 -
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Dray Cil wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This really needs to stop.
If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.
Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP. How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter! BRILLIANT! Dray
Firstly, I wish I was as Dev.
Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum.
CCP needs this like a hole in the head.
You want fries with that? |
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Dray Cil
Dragonfire Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:14:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dray Cil wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This really needs to stop.
If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.
Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP. How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter! BRILLIANT! Dray Firstly, I wish I was as Dev. Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum. CCP needs this like a hole in the head.
Duhrr....Like I was actually insinuating that you were a dev in the first place.
(that was sarcasm if you didn't get it yet...) |
Josef Djugashvilis
153
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:19:00 -
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Dray Cil wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dray Cil wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This really needs to stop.
If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.
Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP. How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter! BRILLIANT! Dray Firstly, I wish I was as Dev. Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum. CCP needs this like a hole in the head. Duhrr....Like I was actually insinuating that you were a dev in the first place. (that was sarcasm if you didn't get it yet...)
Sorry, was an attempt to be funny on my part
You want fries with that? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3697
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:19:00 -
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Man I wish I had bought tinfoil futures back in the day
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Hroya
42
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:21:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
Yeah it's not that he's being linked to a certain unitesticular middle european dictator, but that he's being linked to Goonwaffe.
I did get that, i was mearly throwing in some mildly funny association example.
But regardless, the name sounds cool
You go your corridor but. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Thundering Herd
230
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:21:00 -
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I would like to request a specific "Tinfoil Hat" section of the forums.
Let all the "foilers" rage away over there where they can be ignored properly.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Josef Djugashvilis
153
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:23:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Man I wish I had bought tinfoil futures back in the day
Must be some Eve players living near me.
Local shops clean out of tinfoil
You want fries with that? |
Francisco Bizzaro
92
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:24:00 -
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Has anyone proposed a better alternative to having Devs actually play the game?
Frankly, I'm pretty happy if they've got some hands-on experience ... because otherwise they might have to go to the forums to find out how their game is doing.
Imagine what kind of a distorted reality that can lead to. |
Josef Djugashvilis
153
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:24:00 -
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Hroya wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Yeah it's not that he's being linked to a certain unitesticular middle european dictator, but that he's being linked to Goonwaffe.
I did get that, i was mearly throwing in some mildly funny association example. But regardless, the name sounds cool
I was not aware that D. Cameron only had one testicle.
You want fries with that? |
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CCP Arkanon
C C P
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:25:00 -
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As before, any suspicion of developer misconduct can be reported to Internal Affairs via email or petition. Our email is [email protected]
That said, please note that we'll need something to go on, an event or character to look into. It's too common that we receive complaints which are based on a gut feeling, that can't be followed up on.
CCP Arkanon - Internal Affairs |
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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:26:00 -
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Dray Cil wrote:Came back in february of this year (new character) and I'm hearing the same old **** again. I had hopes with the "internal affairs" dept. but even that is corrupt.
That's the point though, the people who are 'saying the same old **** again' don't have any evidence this time. In fact they're ignoring the all the evidence that says they are wrong.
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