Lizard people you say?

Goons, a polarising force within Eve, you can love them from what they do or hate them for what they do, but they are here to stay and they do create a metric shitload of content and headlines for CCP.


They have a rightly deserved reputation for being asshats, but they're our asshats.

"Soundwaffe".

Christ

In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons.

For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED.

The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE.

Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.

This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth.

I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart?

Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game.

There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues.

These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL

Also the Goons and their Dev friends shaved my cat and TP'd my house

PERMA BAN ALL CCP DEVS!!! Problem solved.

Also the Goons and their Dev friends shaved my cat and TP'd my house

They stole my goat :(

We just ended up on different sides of the fence on this one.

Now that i think about it, It's been everything even remotely goon related. Which nearly everything has been since i've returned. You seem to always come to their aid. I assume your main is one, or something, which is fine.

[If you replaced ever instance of GOON with BOB in the OPs post then this could have been a rant from back i nthe day when I first started playing :P

Also, didn't know CCP Soundwave was a goon. Isn't that new security guy a goon too? Screegs or whatever his name is?

[ I don't speak for GSF as a whole, but if you do have any evidence of corruption: let's get some drama happening. Get that **** mailed in, posted, it'll be great. Drama is the secret energy that fuels GSF dark engine room.

The hidden secret of GSF that we must always strive to keep hidden, laying waste to the knowing like a Blood Raven primarch is that we all enjoy playing eve online and want it to succeed so that we can keep playing eve online.

There are a few significant differences though, which I will write in a numbered list for ease of consumption:

1. There was proof of corruption with regard to devs inside BoB. There isn't even a hint of evidence in this case.

2. There were no 'checks and balances' to prevent dev corruption at the time. There is now a unit dedicated to stamping out this sort of corruption with an anonymous tip line.

3. BoB leadership actively worked to defend their hideous gameplay advantage by lobbying against nerfs and fixes through their internal contacts. GSF actively works to get broken gameplay mechanics like technetium, 'the supercapital issue' fixed using legitimate methods like publicity stunts (doomsdaying a carrier to death, burn jita, etc), networking with the media (remember incarna-gate) and our CSM influence (welp). I can't think of any other 'player groups' that have worked harder to 'improve' eve-online as a platform while putting just as much effort into scamming and devouring the souls of individual players.

4. Dianabolic (as BoB alliance leadership) tried to defend corrupt behavior by saying 'even devs need friends'. I don't speak for GSF as a whole, but if you do have any evidence of corruption: let's get some drama happening. Get that **** mailed in, posted, it'll be great. Drama is the secret energy that fuels GSF dark engine room.

The hidden secret of GSF that we must always strive to keep hidden, laying waste to the knowing like a Blood Raven primarch is that we all enjoy playing eve online and want it to succeed so that we can keep playing eve online.

Huge space empire hijinks and publicity stunts like Burn Jita bring new people in and driving changes to key issues like incarna-gate, supercarrier-gate, and technetium-gate (**** you Nixon) keeps the game from stagnating to the point it did in 2009 when 0.0 turned into a massive global cold war.

Dev corruption is anathema to GSF for just this reason, it drives players away by the bucket load and has the potential to destroy the game permanently.

So I'm not asking people to trust GSF [because that would be astonishingly stupid at best], but take a second to consider whether the day old NPC corp alt really has the best interests of the game at heart when they continue to attack at CCP using the time proven weapons of 'fear uncertainty and doubt'. Because if there was tangible evidence of corruption that CCP Internal Affairs wasn't stamping out, you'd be reading about it on the Wall Street Journal already.

Luckily, since you are a Goon everyone can safely ignore your logical argument in favor of more irrational Goon and CCP hate.

If only you were a day old NPC corp forums alt, everyone trusts those

Day old NPC forums alts can be trusted because they have no emotional or financial investment in anything.

If you don't like the game, vote with your feet.