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Pyrostasis
Caldari
Rage Quit Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.09 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Pyrostasis on 09/05/2009 16:57:32
I was rather shocked to see this yesterday, I knew EvE was doing well, but had no idea they were doing this well.
Read here
I guess my friends can no longer say Im just playing some silly little niche game, EvE has to be considered a AAA MMO now like it or not. 
I just find it rather refreshing that what started as a small development team with a small following has grow into a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully in the coming years this will lead to more dev teams thinking outside the box and focusing on long term rather than short term cash grabs.
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Ryusoath Orillian
Minmatar
INDUSTIENCE
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:00:00 -
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AAA? i would have considered eve to be not only AAA, but in fact pretty much the ONLY MMO. wow has, what 5000 per server... MAX, and if more than 100 are in the same area it lags like hell.
to me , an 'mmo' has to have all its players in the same world. sharding is just developer laziness plus extreme cheapness.
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:01:00 -
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Another step to the final objective.
WORLD CONQUEST!
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 Originally by: Crumplecorn
Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:14:00 -
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I'm not surprised. I expected WAR to be in the condition that it was in upon release but a major issue was that not only did it not improve, it actually got worse. I swear after every patch it would lag worse and worse to the point where I was still framing at 40+ battle scenes. And good luck taking a major city without the whole server crashing, in fact that actually turned into a tactic for defenders.
They had broken classes, and there is the inevitable one side out performing the other. I saw it back in daoc also. Any time you do a simple good versus bad as soon as one side starts to win everyone dumps their characters on the losing side and crosses over until the 2 sides are completely lopsided. Then people start to lose interest and fun and the #s drop.
As for the smirks about WOW I can post so many similarities and link other threads from GD itself to back my case that the religious eve zealots would want to burn me at the stake but I don't feel like turning this into an eve fanboi WOW flame fest.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:15:00 -
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Yeah but you have to remember Eve is a metagame. Alt for this alt for that.
Whereas most other games just need a single account to be successful and on a level playing field.
300,000 subscribers for eve in real terms is probably more like 80,000 subscribers.
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Pyrostasis
Caldari
Rage Quit Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:22:00 -
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Didnt CCP release some numbers a while back saying alts were less than 20% of the pop?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrostasis
Didnt CCP release some numbers a while back saying alts were less than 20% of the pop?
How do you tell who is an alt and who isn't. I've got 2 characters but they could both be my main, just mains in different fields.
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Ryusoath Orillian
Minmatar
INDUSTIENCE
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 09/05/2009 17:19:23
Yeah but you have to remember Eve is a metagame. Alt for this alt for that.
Whereas most other games just need a single account to be successful and on a level playing field.
300,000 subscribers for eve in real terms of actual individual people is probably more like 80,000 subscribers.
bull****
300,000 is 300,000. is doesn't matter if one guy has every account ccp still gets paid and eve still continues.
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Fallen Elite
Retrogenesis
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Fallen Elite on 09/05/2009 17:25:16
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 09/05/2009 17:19:23
Yeah but you have to remember Eve is a metagame. Alt for this alt for that.
Whereas most other games just need a single account to be successful and on a level playing field.
300,000 subscribers for eve in real terms of actual individual people is probably more like 80,000 subscribers.
I would wager at best, half of the eve population has an alt account, it's probably closer to 150,000 to 200,000 unique subscribers.
Edit- Thinking about it that seems ridiculous, I can't imagine so many people with alt accounts. The large majority of EVE is without them, the forum is a small percentage of the eve population.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:30:00 -
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tabula rasa check
age of conan check
warhammer online check
psssh the new mmo's are dying out :)
next comming up lotrO , WOW, KOTOR, star trek AND JGE to hit the chopping block.
it is getting mroe popular
i had 2 people ask me if we had the box in my store with out me saying anything about it 
this make AC a happy guy :)
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:30:00 -
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This is easily explained with one word.
Paul Barnett
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
This is easily explained with one word.
Paul Barnett
Isn't that 2 words?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.09 18:03:00 -
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The only question is, how many of those "Apocrypha box" subscribers will REMAIN subscribers 3 months from now ?
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
Serpents smile
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Posted - 2009.05.09 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: THE L0CK
Originally by: Ghoest
This is easily explained with one word.
Paul Barnett
Isn't that 2 words?
Sometimes you guy's are so terrible, I wanne hug you all.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Originally by: THE L0CK
Originally by: Ghoest
This is easily explained with one word.
Paul Barnett
Isn't that 2 words?
Sometimes you guy's are so terrible, I wanne hug you all.
o/
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Estel Arador on 09/05/2009 19:01:18
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
I swear after every patch it would lag worse and worse to the point where I was still framing at 40+ battle scenes. And good luck taking a major city without the whole server crashing, in fact that actually turned into a tactic for defenders.
Sounds like EVE to me 
FREE! jumpclone service - over 200 locations! |
Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Dragonrider Tao Ball
A breeze unlocks the paddock gate. The sun sets. Make preparations to leave.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 09/05/2009 17:19:23
Yeah but you have to remember Eve is a metagame. Alt for this alt for that.
Whereas most other games just need a single account to be successful and on a level playing field.
300,000 subscribers for eve in real terms of actual individual people is probably more like 80,000 subscribers.
You're implying that the average player has 4 accounts.
Yeah, I think not.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrostasis
Didnt CCP release some numbers a while back saying alts were less than 20% of the pop?
IIRC, that was only for credit card subs. There's no easy way to tell for GTC subs.
0.0 alliance members tend to be alt-heavy. Empire dwellers not so much.
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Twin blade
Minmatar
The Triangle
Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.09 20:28:00 -
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I played Warhammer till patch 1.2 it was an epic epic epic fail no game has ever had a patch close to as bad at what 1.2 was to warhammer.
All Tank`s destroyed
All Melee class worthless
All Magic based class overpowerd (IE titan with DD smart bombs)
All AOE heals insanely overpowerd
Add massive ammouts of lag
Make end game PVP worse
Useless support Crs(GM`s)
The list never ends for how bad 1.2 was.
Over all im still abit shocked eve has only hit 300.000 i have played on and off since the beta and i was sure eve would of passed 300.000 along time ago.
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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2009.05.09 20:53:00 -
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the war games never really were that interesting to me, i much prefered tablketop (not that ive done it since i was 13) either way the games never seemed to capture the spirit of warhammer, too cartoony and too small scale imo
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.05.09 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
The only question is, how many of those "Apocrypha box" subscribers will REMAIN subscribers 3 months from now ?
Well after biomassing a nub trade alt to make room for a new character after the retail release I can easily say this: If new people can't figure eve out and make lots of iskies in the first few days with all the new well made tutorials with its free ships and skills in addition to the 15~20 million isk from the epic arc then they really do need to gb2wow. The learning cliff now has a dangly rope ladder that you can climb in high winds with no safety net instead of the smack em on the arse and out the station you go tutorial of before.
Originally by: Achar Losa
i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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shwarzkauph
bullets with butterfly wings
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Posted - 2009.05.09 22:22:00 -
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I awaiting the arrival of Star Wars The old Republic to get released. So far, the game looks to be awesome. Its being developed by Bioware, anything from Bioware is awesome.
That may be the game I leave EVE for. Ive played EVE since the beginning, May '03. Seen it all. Done it all.
EVE is a Great game and Deserves and has earned all the achievements and praise they have gained.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: shwarzkauph
I awaiting the arrival of Star Wars The old Republic to get released. So far, the game looks to be awesome. Its being developed by Bioware, anything from Bioware is awesome.
That may be the game I leave EVE for. Ive played EVE since the beginning, May '03. Seen it all. Done it all.
EVE is a Great game and Deserves and has earned all the achievements and praise they have gained.
I hope the new star wars MMO is good - a little competition will do EvE nothing but good.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.09 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Akita T
The only question is, how many of those "Apocrypha box" subscribers will REMAIN subscribers 3 months from now ?
If new people can't figure eve out and make lots of iskies in the first few days with all the new well made tutorials with its free ships and skills in addition to the 15~20 million isk from the epic arc then they really do need to gb2wow.
I can't disagree with that statement, however that was my point : many of the "box" subscribers will probably do just that, risking to make this the first time that EVE actually loses a noticeable portion of its userbase (because let's face it, so far, it has almost exclusively gone up, or if it was a brief down, it was short and small).
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
E Vile
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Posted - 2009.05.10 02:05:00 -
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NO other MMO has EVE's population as you see on the server because EVE is the only that has everyone in 1 Universe. Not split down into copies.
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Bestofworst
Gallente
Double Eagle Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.10 02:20:00 -
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I just spent this afternoon playing with the Lord of the rings Online trial. I can say I really have lost hope for all others MMOs. Leaving Eve to play any other MMO just leaves a terrible taste in my mouth that there isn't something going right. Terrible graphics, interface is somehow worse, absolutely no players around me and leveling system is a pointless grind.
Eve is THE Massively Multiplayer Online Game. Call me a fanboy but I had a taste of Eve Online and 3 months in now all I can say is I still have a hunger for more in Eve.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.05.10 02:27:00 -
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That 20% number was taken During the reading of players in high sec to low sec to 00 thing.
It tracked IP addresses and such, and it was found that of all of the IP adresses, only 10% had muliple log ins.
The 20%, is the guess work based on this by the forums.
I have one account, and most people are the same.
Hell most people don't even want to pay any money for an mmo.
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Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2009.05.10 03:08:00 -
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CCP is doing better and continues to grow, but I would not compare Eve to Warhammer. Warhammer is fail.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.10 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Adeline Grey
CCP is doing better and continues to grow, but I would not compare Eve to Warhammer. Warhammer is fail.
It's not, it's comparing subscriber numbers.
Warhammer's not a bad game, it's got a different design philosophy than the typical MMO (though obviously derivative of Dark Age of Camelot, save dev and all). To be honest the only reason I don't play it is because of some horrible connection issues I was having shortly after launch.
The integration of PVP(RVR) into the PVE parts of the game was very well done.
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