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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:10:00 -
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best thing about eve is the single shard, things would have to get VERY VERY bad for me to ever think a second shard is needed |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Infinity Ziona
They might actually fix some of the glaringly obvious bugs at least. You know like the one that makes you stuck on a gate forever, that appeared in 2004 and was patched out by a lame session change timer, and somehow made its way back into in the last patch, despite us still having the super lame session timer.
EA will cancel it to use the server hardware for The Sims Online 2 and SOE will throw out all the skills, kill the industry and market and make it quest and joystick based in 100 systems instead of 7500.
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
best thing about eve is the single shard, things would have to get VERY VERY bad for me to ever think a second shard is needed
Well done the first person to admit it, the main reason ppl dont wont multiple is personal issues...I was waiting for that...
Ok lets leave it as is then, however Eve will never expand. With all the advertising, etc etc the max online count hasnt gone up much..about 10000 in the last couple of years its been stagnant..and CCP have advertised enormously more....so CCP definately want it to expand..
And again is not about Wow the game its the infrastructure..and too see Eve will die is crazy, ok lets look at the Wow game then..its a massive...5million+ players...eve 300,000 ermmm see the maths? So stop calling Wow fail..its the most successful, most used MMO in history and continues to be..Stop being so snobbish etc, those 5 million people prob laughing at you and saying they just dont learn do they...
Lets see how eve is in the next few years..id like to know also how many accounts are closed and how many are open ratio..I bet its a high amount closed...
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Navtiqes
Space Sheriff
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 25/05/2009 10:54:16
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Enough with the bull**** predictions (You don't know).
Enough with the EVE is EVE because its single server (Its not single server anymore).
You're refering to the china cluster?
Yes to the chinese server. Its not only available in China, you can play it from Australia without too much trouble. I imagine the same with the rest of the world too.
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You're seriously contending that giving EvE to EA or SoE would improve EvE?
They might actually fix some of the glaringly obvious bugs at least. You know like the one that makes you stuck on a gate forever, that appeared in 2004 and was patched out by a lame session change timer, and somehow made its way back into in the last patch, despite us still having the super lame session timer.
I see your complete dismissal of my argument, and repeat for emphasis: You don't get EVE.
Restarting a 6 year old game based entirely on player decisions and player interaction is, at the lack of any better description, idiotic. It would divide an unusually strong community in half and kill the sense of a persistant enviroment.
You can get away with that in carebear simulators like EQ and WoW because it's all a big themepark on rails where the players are simply passing through like everyone else without actually affecting people in any decisive manner.
Instead of demanding CCP listens to your shortsighted demands, you should figure out how to succeed at whatever it inevitably is you're struggling to achieve ingame.
I can predict your every move, and I'm not happy - Mitnal |
Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:06:17
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:00:49
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 25/05/2009 10:57:28
Enough with the bull**** predictions (You don't know).
Enough with the EVE is EVE because its single server (Its not single server anymore).
Enough with the "NO" replies (unless your a CCP employee you have no authority)
You only have an opinion like me. So how about state what it is and why you think it.
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I think EVE would benefit from another server or many servers because:
1. It could attract people who are daunted by joining a 6 year old server.
2. It could revitalise or reattract those people who are bored with the current server (myself included).
3. It could offer an opportunity for a completely new rule set to the original server. No sov, no capitals, no pos, one character per account....
4. It would offer variety.
Theres a lot of other benefits to the IDEA of a new server and yes probably some negatives too but simply screaming NO, NOOB or posting unsubstantiated bullcrap hardly qualifies as a good reason to not think about having one.
Infinity Ziona
Once again proving, that, I AM BETTER THAN YOU.
A -- FECKING -- MEN
Also remember is NOT A COMPLETE NEW GET RID OF THE OLD...its just ANOTHER instance..
I dont think you will lose players as much as ppl thing from TQ, because you shouldn tbe able to transfer chars...Yes people have knowledge but they will start from the same position everyone else does, with a noob char, with a noob ship and no isk...
I cant see why people are soo against it..its not going to affect your gaming experience at all..if you want to stay on TQ then fine...
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Southern Suzy
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:04:00 -
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WE HAVE MULTIPLE SERVERS! GO PLAY ON SISI IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MUCH PPL 
Yet another stupid thread spotted!
Read some of the stuff on the site about the history of eve and the way CCP wants this game to be and u'll know there wont be multiple servers
So wait this is the end of my post allready?
I'm not in multiple alliances to spy! I'm in them so I'll always be on the winning team |
nahtoh
Caldari
Vanguard Frontiers
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Abrazzar
No, they should double the hardware for the current server instead.
With respect that doesnt solve the problem mate :)
Your solution would only delay the problem repeating itself though.
Yes after about 5 more years, and then you would have to create a new instance..I mean how many does wow have? tons of em..tis is so that servers dont become over populated/laggy etc and ppl get to experience all parts of the game..
No, oh and die in a fire (ingame of course)...
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Southern Suzy
WE HAVE MULTIPLE SERVERS! GO PLAY ON SISI IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MUCH PPL
Yet another stupid thread spotted!
Read some of the stuff on the site about the history of eve and the way CCP wants this game to be and u'll know there wont be multiple servers
Thats why eve will die horribly.....have fun....adapt or die...
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Lumy
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Southern Suzy
WE HAVE MULTIPLE SERVERS! GO PLAY ON SISI IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MUCH PPL
Yet another stupid thread spotted!
Read some of the stuff on the site about the history of eve and the way CCP wants this game to be and u'll know there wont be multiple servers
Thats why eve will die horribly.....have fun....adapt or die...
FYI, EVE is dying since '03.
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Camaria
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Camaria
Wiser people than me pointed out why the OPs suggestion would not do any good
What would happen, would be that the current powerblocks, due to numbers, organisation, and skill at playing eve, would almost instantly gain even tighter control over the new instance, than they currently have over this instance of eve
Nope...they SHOULD NOT be able transfer over, new instance new accounts/chars
Where did I say they could transfer over? They'll just make new alts/accounts in the new instance
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Camaria
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Camaria
Wiser people than me pointed out why the OPs suggestion would not do any good
What would happen, would be that the current powerblocks, due to numbers, organisation, and skill at playing eve, would almost instantly gain even tighter control over the new instance, than they currently have over this instance of eve
Nope...they SHOULD NOT be able transfer over, new instance new accounts/chars
Where did I say they could transfer over? They'll just make new alts/accounts in the new instance
yeah but not everyone would create a new account would they lol..and everyone wouls start from complete scratch, nooob char, noob skills, no isk etc etc...so they wouldnt havea massive advantage at all..by time they train up, every other person would of gained knowledge also...so end up being pretty even...
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Ok lets leave it as is then, however Eve will never expand. With all the advertising, etc etc the max online count hasnt gone up much..about 10000 in the last couple of years its been stagnant..and CCP have advertised enormously more....so CCP definately want it to expand..
20% growth in the last 6 months is not stagnant. 100% growth in the last 30 months is not stagnant.
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:26:20
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:26:05
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:23:35
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Ok lets leave it as is then, however Eve will never expand. With all the advertising, etc etc the max online count hasnt gone up much..about 10000 in the last couple of years its been stagnant..and CCP have advertised enormously more....so CCP definately want it to expand..
20% growth in the last 6 months is not stagnant. 100% growth in the last 30 months is not stagnant.
After the last 3 major upgrades and major advertising ccp have done, on steam, mags everywhere..there hasnt been a significant jump in the amount of actual online players at all....thats a fact.. its stayed pretty much the same..so what does that say?
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Dravius Luxor
Minmatar
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:25:00 -
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I can't believe you have the cheek to pretend that this is a serious thread...
For the record: NO, this is the worst idea I've ever heard, and utterly, staggeringly stupid.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:26:00 -
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I'll reiterate the point that EVE is EVE because of the single servercluster.
Also the 'problems' in the first post won't be fixed by having another servercluster. It won't give new people a chance, it will give old people a new chance to do it right from the start.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43
just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years)
EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
After the last 3 major upgrades and major advertising ccp have done, on steam, mags everywhere..there hasnt been a significant jump in the amount of actual online players at all....thats a fact.. its stayed pretty much the same..so what does that say?
See this going from below 40k to over 50k in one year?
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Camaria
Wiser people than me pointed out why the OPs suggestion would not do any good
What would happen, would be that the current powerblocks, due to numbers, organisation, and skill at playing eve, would almost instantly gain even tighter control over the new instance, than they currently have over this instance of eve
Nope...they SHOULD NOT be able transfer over, new instance new accounts/chars
what's to stop skilled players making new accounts and completely dominating 0.0 due to their know-how?
Which is what happened in the China cluster (erm... Serenity??) TQ players went there, spammed POS's and basically took over most of 0.0 for quite a while (Anchoring L1 vs training time for a Dread to pop the thing).
Saying that, I think there is some merit in the "Space is big, really big" argument; even in the high sec mission/trade hubs most of the space in the solar system is wasted. I can't see it being 'better' in low sec/0.0 in that respect... now how to go about shoving content/features in to this wasted space is a matter of some debate.
Hell I'm all for some limited forms of non-private dynamically spawning instances in EVE; operative word being non-private.
And no. The carebear contingent do not want multi-sharded EVE:O. Do you have any freaking idea how much juggling it'd make to do trade runs if you had to factor in which sodding server to aim for? Just... no.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43
just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years)
EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
You know how bad EVE is doing? Apart from WOW, it's the only MMORPG from that era which is still growing.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:35:11
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43
just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years)
EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
You know how bad EVE is doing? Apart from WOW, it's the only MMORPG from that era which is still growing.
At snails pace...awesome.
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Camaria
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:36:00 -
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Queen, you really don't get it... You and (hopefully) your couple of dosens of friends will still be facing thousands of AAA, BOB, Goons, Dronerussians, NC, etc in the new instance. It's the powerblocks that will organise the blitzing of the new instance, gatecamping the access points to lucrative areas with hundreds of noobships, etc
We are a one year old alliance, 200 or so members and we're grabbing controll of a decent chunk of low/null sec. Most members of the alliance are in the 2-4 month range. So it's perfectly possible to make an impact as a new player
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
At snails pace...awesome.
You claimed EVE wasn't growing but were proven wrong.
You claimed EVE wasn't doing too well but were proven wrong.
Is there anything else you'd like to claim or will you concede that your claims and indeed this entire thread are the product of your ignorance?
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nahtoh
Caldari
Vanguard Frontiers
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43
just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years)
EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
Its not wow, its not supposed to be wow. So sod off bsack to wow or just FOAD...
Its a Niche single server game...Don't like that part of it? don't play it. Its that fecking simple...now WoW is not my type of game...I am not on teh wow forums whinning at blizzaed to change that game to make more my taste.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
At snails pace...awesome.
You claimed EVE wasn't growing but were proven wrong.
You claimed EVE wasn't doing too well but were proven wrong.
Is there anything else you'd like to claim or will you concede that your claims and indeed this entire thread are the product of your ignorance?
its not doing well, how is it doing well? If i spent all the time advertising etc etc and only got 250,000 users over 5 years i would be dissapointed, i never said it wasnt growing, just not very much, get your facts right before the flame...
and 11.5 million is a massive difference to 250-300,000 massive...so whos doing it wrong? who? cos its certainly not blizzard..
Its obvious that eve is just full of pompus head in sand people, who just wont adapt or listen to anything..so bookmark this page cos when eve is still nothing in 5 years ill bump the thread and say i told you so..over and out nothing more to say on this subject.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43
just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years)
EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
Its not wow, its not supposed to be wow. So sod off bsack to wow or just FOAD...
Its a Niche single server game...Don't like that part of it? don't play it. Its that fecking simple...now WoW is not my type of game...I am not on teh wow forums whinning at blizzaed to change that game to make more my taste.
hit a nerve there did? lol typical go back to wow...awww diddums...baby want to a hankie...boohoo....i dont play wow actually...
and now blizzard have listen and changed the game hence 11.5million users...i think your a little outnumbered....
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Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:45:00 -
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Sorry everybody, but the OP deserves a standing ovation.
VERY VERY GOOD troll, it sucked in so many people and it was very believable until some of the last messages.
9/10.
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Queen Ba'Ku
Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Space Wanderer
Sorry everybody, but the OP deserves a standing ovation.
VERY VERY GOOD troll, it sucked in so many people and it was very believable until some of the last messages.
9/10.
thats an amazing post and contribution there many thanks..your parent must be proud of you...
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Lumy
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Its obvious that eve is just full of pompus head in sand people, who just wont adapt or listen to anything..so bookmark this page cos when eve is still nothing in 5 years ill bump the thread and say i told you so..over and out nothing more to say on this subject.
Thanks God for 90 day anti-necromancy locks  . Also I'm happy you have enough faith in EVE it will be here in 5 years. Despite how terrible the game is compared to WoW. Makes warm feeling inside me. |
Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
its not doing well, how is it doing well?
It's doing well because it's doing better than all other MMORPGs, with the exception of WOW.
No MMORPG has maintained the growth as long as EVE has, in fact most have a huge spike at first and then drop slowly. EVE is unique in that regard.
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
and 11.5 million is a massive difference to 250-300,000 massive...so whos doing it wrong? who? cos its certainly not blizzard..
Blizzard is doing fine, but they're building on an established series and have quite a good brand. Also if you do your research you might find they do a tad more in advertising and marketing than EVE 
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Its obvious that eve is just full of pompus head in sand people, who just wont adapt or listen to anything..
It seems to me the other MMORPGs should adapt to EVEs concept, because they're losing subscriptions while EVE is gaining them  |
Xen Mind
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:49:00 -
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Ohhh gawddd not this **** again
okay okay listen up CCP have stated several times that they would rather close the company than sharding it
This was exactly what killed SWG ........... and any other fail game, can anybody say War or AOC ? |
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