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Xelios
Minmatar
Broski Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:50:00 -
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So despite every expert telling them it's a bad idea, despite all the protests and petitions (the big one reached 130,000 signatures), despite it being completely ineffective... the German parliament passed the internet censorship bill today. Not 2 hours after the bill became law one spokesman for the CDU is already considering widening the blacklist to sites that promote "Killerspiele" like Counterstrike.
As a public service to my fellow Germans I present the "how to get around Zensursula's Wall" guide.
1) Go here and pick an open DNS server
2) Follow the steps here to change your DNS settings
And it's just that easy. Here's hoping the Federal Court will strike this stupid law down as being unconstitutional. Either way, guess who's not getting my vote in September?
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:54:00 -
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holy crap this is getting ******ed
i hope EU parliament will do something about this
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:56:00 -
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 Originally by: ceaon
holy crap this is getting ******ed
i hope EU parliament will do something about this
Well, technically they can't. Member states can do whatever they like, just take a look at what Italy is doing to the freedom of press and speech.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Well, technically they can't. Member states can do whatever they like, just take a look at what Italy is doing to the freedom of press and speech.
dint EU parliament blocked the 3 strikes French law ? |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:01:00 -
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Hence my vote for the pirate party that is not only against the perversion of copyright but also against data collecting of companies and state and censorship like this. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:17:00 -
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CDU = christian democrats
guess who will never ever get my vote regardless of what they do? |
Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 19/06/2009 13:22:32
Originally by: ceaon
dint EU parliament blocked the 3 strikes French law ?
nope. that was the Constitutional Council, FranceÆs highest legal authority.
the EU can only set guidelines. and then not enforce them. :P
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Capitalistic Tendencies
Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zaphod Jones on 19/06/2009 13:50:40
how about hotspotshield from http://www.anchorfree.com ?
i use it to watch US hulu content from europe would it work for anonymity from german dictators ?
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TimMc
Gallente
Extradition
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Posted - 2009.06.19 19:05:00 -
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All you germans should go buy the anarchist cookbook.
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.06.19 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
1) Go here and pick an open DNS server
This site seems fishy!
Take one of the top-three IP addresses of DNS servers and enter it in google. You may be surprised to get any hits at all, but you will actually get a lot of them. Here is one:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=661721
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
holy crap this is getting ******ed
i hope EU parliament will do something about this
Considering it is in the interest of large bureaucracies to solidify and increase powers of control that seems highly unlikely even if it were possible. |
Xelios
Minmatar
Broski Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Feilamya
Originally by: Xelios
1) Go here and pick an open DNS server
This site seems fishy!
Take one of the top-three IP addresses of DNS servers and enter it in google. You may be surprised to get any hits at all, but you will actually get a lot of them. Here is one:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=661721
Good call, what I did was I ran the IP's through IP-tracer and found one in a western European country like Austria or France. There's lots of other open DNS servers out there, even some official ones run by the OpenDNS project, so "shop around"  |
Glarion Garnier
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.20 02:43:00 -
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I allways cringe When ppl talk about Tin Foil hats and laugh at Alex J. But this shiit is moving foward at an alarming rate. You can be a sheep or you can be human. it's up to you.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.06.20 04:33:00 -
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It's always sad to see European countries' attitude on civil liberties.
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Evthron Macyntire
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Posted - 2009.06.20 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Evthron Macyntire on 20/06/2009 06:53:03
It should be safe to say that 99% of politicians will say whatever they can to get elected, after that they don't care about you. Never mind that they are supposed to be representing you, as that is what a democracy is, but rather, in reality they do what the party leader says.
At least in Canada it goes that way. Don't listen to people who tell you otherwise. It's once in a blue moon that someone votes against their party.
You are unlikely to get your message across unless you start disrupting the normal flow of life. Block traffic everywhere.
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Sigs like this. |
Reiisha
Evolution
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.20 15:33:00 -
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Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
This is just old idiots trying to hold on to whatever power they have left. A last bid to get control back over the people's opinions.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Xelios
Minmatar
Broski Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
This is just old idiots trying to hold on to whatever power they have left. A last bid to get control back over the people's opinions.
Question is in 15 years will there be an internet left? Or will it end up like radio and TV?
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.21 03:10:00 -
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1984
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blathering idiot
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.06.21 03:43:00 -
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It is just the elite of the world securing their place with 2012 coming. The hardest part is yet to come.... Getting our guns out of our hands in the USA. The last standing free army in the world. The last line from complete domination over us all.  |
Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.21 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: blathering idiot
It is just the elite of the world securing their place with 2012 coming. The hardest part is yet to come.... Getting our guns out of our hands in the USA. The last standing free army in the world. The last line from complete domination over us all.
Well named troll.
By the way, I'm not sure CCP would like you instructing german game players on way of breaking the law in its own forums.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
Imperial Guard.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
This is just old idiots trying to hold on to whatever power they have left. A last bid to get control back over the people's opinions.
Confirming this.
Their time is up. |
Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.06.21 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Originally by: Reiisha
Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
This is just old idiots trying to hold on to whatever power they have left. A last bid to get control back over the people's opinions.
Question is in 15 years will there be an internet left? Or will it end up like radio and TV?
This, and the other question is if there will be any more elections in 15 years.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.06.21 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
By the way, I'm not sure CCP would like you instructing german game players on way of breaking the law in its own forums.
Using proxy servers and changing your DNS is not (yet) outlawed in Germany, though I am sure they'll get to it eventually, given time. |
Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.21 10:51:00 -
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Things like these makes me very happy about working for an ISP that more or less told IFPI to sod off when they demanded Torrent-sites be DNS-blocked on our end.
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Reiisha
Evolution
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.21 11:14:00 -
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The sad thing of it all is that current politics are led by people who originally fought against such kinds of oppression... The 60's, vietnam, the rise of the new media, the idealistic movements of then...
I wonder when they forgot about all that. Bunch of sadistic hypocrits. Even worse, most of the population is too apathic to do anything against it, everyone always thinks that someone else will fix it.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Xevria
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Posted - 2009.06.21 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
CDU = christian democrats
guess who will never ever get my vote regardless of what they do?
nonononono, violent games are bad, violent tv shows are bad, theye corrupt your soul.
Now go and read in the bible about brother killing brother! |
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Posted - 2009.06.21 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
1) Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
2) The sad thing of it all is that current politics are led by people who originally fought against such kinds of oppression... [...] I wonder when they forgot about all that.
3) Even worse, most of the population is too apathic to do anything against it, everyone always thinks that someone else will fix it.
Compare 1 & 3 and 1 & 2
Notice something yet :P ?
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.06.21 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 21/06/2009 15:30:20
Originally by: Reiisha
Meh, in 15 years or so the internet generation will be the people who are elected.
This is just old idiots trying to hold on to whatever power they have left. A last bid to get control back over the people's opinions.
i see it in the opposite way entirely. i see complete internet control and censorship as the inevitable result, with people only being allowed to do what is socially acceptable to do on the internet in the end.
right now it's the will of the people not to censor the internet, but our minds can be changed if we are told one thing over and over again, even if it isn't true, especially if scare tactics are used. Even on the internet- if you have enough money you're going to get your message displayed on ads, and bumped up in social networking sites, etc etc. one thing that will never change is that the powerful always want more power. the powerless can always be convinced to give it up.
look at china, where the message is almost completely controlled. most people dont even know to dissent. so long as they are fed they are happy. that's the end result i see for all societies and by extensions the internet.
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.06.21 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu
look at china, where the message is almost completely controlled. most people dont even know to dissent. so long as they are fed they are happy. that's the end result i see for all societies and by extensions the internet.
You're being quite pessimistic. In general, people do not enjoy being subject to any form of censorship; witness the backlash against Green Dam, for example. No-one in power can ever afford to upset too large a fraction of the population, and I don't know of any country where the majority believe that heavily state-censored internet is better than open access. |
Biolaja Tista
Gallente
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:15:00 -
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So humans are bastards? What else is new? It's all fun and games until there's a second holocaust. I'm already making vacation plans for when the earth is finally plunged into hell. |
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