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Disdaine
386
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:50:00 -
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MissyFire wrote: "CCP Broke my bot software and I am mad"
I actually like the new inventory.
Well they certainly hit their target demographic with the new UI....
Simple UI for simple minds. |

JEZEB
Stainless Steel Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:59:00 -
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Again, if you like the new inventory, you aren't playing the game with even the most modest of functionality. Basically you're a troll here to argue a point in which you can't possibly back up with logic or experience.
You have not played for more than ten minutes an actively tried to do different things. Go back, play for a couple of days, or even just hours, and then come back and tell us how you REALLY feel. |

Oberine Noriepa
817
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:59:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I can't be arsed to hold your hand and do some easy mode digging for you m8. If you're unable to find the information that's one thing... but this seems to be a case of not only unable, but unwilling to understand the fact that you are unable to find the information that has been totted around here. Ignorance is bliss some say.
As for the whole "i've read and watched" apparently not well enough, try again. When you make absurd claims like you already have, the burden of proof is on you when someone calls you out on your complete fabrications.
Quote:Furthermore, what are you actually arguing here? I'm not arguing anything. I simply want to see evidence for the claims you're making.
Quote:Are you trying to state that the things I originally stated are not true thus making it justified for ccp to release an "expansion" that is oh so obviously sub par compared to their previous one? One would assume that by attacking a claim that ccp stated their new expansion would be superior to their previous that you're trying to build a case or excuse as to why it is acceptable to release sub par content? Much like the fabricated claim I'm calling you out on, your whole impression is a complete fabrication with no basis whatsoever. How on earth do you jump to this conclusion when I'm simply expecting you to back your claim up?
Quote:I don't really see this as a reasonable argument because even if you were right (You're not btw) it would seem that you're just supporting the idea of mediocrity instead of excellence, a fail argument from the onset most would think. Bolded: Prove it. Refusal of doing this only demonstrates that you can't back your claim up. Either you stick to not putting words in the mouths of other individuals, or the delusions you're displaying here are going to get the best of you. |

Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon Byzantine Empire
87
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:31:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I can't be arsed to hold your hand and do some easy mode digging for you m8. If you're unable to find the information that's one thing... but this seems to be a case of not only unable, but unwilling to understand the fact that you are unable to find the information that has been totted around here. Ignorance is bliss some say.
As for the whole "i've read and watched" apparently not well enough, try again. When you make absurd claims, the burden of proof is on you in the event of someone calling you out on them. Quote:Furthermore, what are you actually arguing here? I'm not arguing anything. I simply want to see evidence for the claims you're making. Quote:Are you trying to state that the things I originally stated are not true thus making it justified for ccp to release an "expansion" that is oh so obviously sub par compared to their previous one? One would assume that by attacking a claim that ccp stated their new expansion would be superior to their previous that you're trying to build a case or excuse as to why it is acceptable to release sub par content? I don't really see this as a reasonable argument because even if you were right (You're not btw) it would seem that you're just supporting the idea of mediocrity instead of excellence, a fail argument from the onset most would think. Much like the fabricated claim I'm calling you out on, your whole impression is a complete fabrication with no basis whatsoever. How on earth do you jump to this conclusion when I'm simply expecting you to back your claim up? Bolded: Prove it. Refusal of doing this only demonstrates that you can't back your claim up. Either you stick to not putting words in the mouths of other individuals, or the delusions you're displaying here are going to get the best of you.
Lol, just lol... Like I said m8, I'm not digging it up for you... I've got better thing to do with my time than to "prove" something already commonly known by the community and myself to some self righteous whiner... As for the whole "absurd claims".... Dude, man, m8.... If someone stating that ccp claimed their newest expansion would be superior to their previous is somehow listed as "absurd" then i'd suggest medical help asap...
Keep grasping at straws tho m8, I'm sure you will find the quotations I'm talking about soon enough Till then i'd suggest continuing to live this silly opinion you've unfortunately bolstered yourself around. Lols on you per usual
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Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
92
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:33:00 -
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Lol Wut? Unsubbing cause they ****** up our inventory.... Grow up... http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null |

Oberine Noriepa
817
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Posted - 2012.06.07 12:25:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Lol, just lol... Like I said m8, I'm not digging it up for you... I've got better thing to do with my time than to "prove" something already commonly known by the community and myself to some self righteous whiner... As for the whole "absurd claims".... Dude, man, m8.... If someone stating that ccp claimed their newest expansion would be superior to their previous is somehow listed as "absurd" then i'd suggest medical help asap... Keep grasping at straws tho m8, I'm sure you will find the quotations I'm talking about soon enough  Till then i'd suggest continuing to live this silly opinion you've unfortunately bolstered yourself around. Lols on you per usual So, basically you just confirmed that you're blowing nothing but hot air. Good to know that your claims and arguments are backed by nothing but your petty childishness. How appropriate. |

Vigoth Ritic
Frozen Corpse Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.06.07 13:10:00 -
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I wrote this rant while waiting for the new inventory to load. Yep still screwed up ccp. your doing a great job. now off to watch a movie, maybe it will load then. |

Kathryn Railly
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:40:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:The team are doing everything they can to make this of minimal impact to you, but the tree view itself is not going anywhere so I hope that you can come to terms with it in some way.
This is how I come to terms with your refusal to remove this horribly broken inventory UI system:
CCP wrote:You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.
Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on XX XXXX 2012.
Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.
There is only ONE way CCP understands that the players are serious about issues being experienced that are caused by their so called IMPROVEMENTS to Eve Online:
Vote with your wallet.
I have just done so on all three of my accounts.
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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:33:00 -
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New Inventory system a little clunky, but otherwise manageable. +/-1 |

Asuka Smith
Noir.
13
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:06:00 -
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New inventory system sucks. When I am in PVP and I want to loot a can, old system I'd open the can, hit ctrl+a and then shift click boosters if I saw them, and then drag it to my cargo icon in the bottom center overview. This took me under 10 seconds if I looked at every item, under 2 seconds if I only looked at boosters.
I can't even tell what the hell I'm looking at in the time it took to perform that old task of looting and shooting at the same time. But hey I'm a dinosaur, maybe I just suck at this game, maybe I need to HTFU...
That's what I would have told myself, anyways. It just so happens I was in 0.0 looking to pass through a gate when I saw the gatecamp I was trying to pass get busted by another gang. Most of the campers got away but a drake got tackled and vaporized. The killers sat on the gate for whatever reasons for at least a minute or two, PRESUMABLY looting and deciding on a new destination and what have you, but after they left the loot was still in the drake wreck.
I am almost 100% certain that that loot got left behind because it's impossible to do anything with the new inventory system in a STATION, much less in space on a gate or in a fight where you aren't about to screw around for 10 minutes trying to figure out what is going on. That's when I realized the loot system is definitely bad and it's not just my opinion (in my opinion :-) |
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Kathryn Railly
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:58:00 -
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The so called 'improvement' to the inventory UI will never be rolled back as long as the controls to what direction Eve Online features go is up to debate.
CCP believes they are the authority on the direction the game takes and what feature changes they can shove down the players throats. They are correct as long as the players continue to fund their poorly implemented upgrades with subscriptions.
There is only ONE way to show that the players drive the direction the game takes, and even the CEO of CCP has confirmed it with his statement:
CCP Hilmar wrote:Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
As long as you keep your subscriptions going CCP will continue to make these type of design decisions that go against the will of Eve's players. |

barvo
The Order Of Entropy
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 10:42:00 -
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Asuka Smith wrote:I am almost 100% certain that that loot got left behind because it's impossible to do anything with the new inventory system in a STATION, much less in space on a gate or in a fight where you aren't about to screw around for 10 minutes trying to figure out what is going on. That's when I realized the loot system is definitely bad and it's not just my opinion (in my opinion :-)
Are you for real!?
It takes one extra click. ONE. Even then, that's only because for some reason items aren't in focus when inventory opens. That's all. And in return you get the ability to drag to any "item receptacle" accessible to you at that time.
Are you muppets seriously threatening to quit over one extra click? |

Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1391
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Posted - 2012.06.10 10:43:00 -
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Man, the loot windows are soooo much faster than they used to be. Loot all, window closes instantly, click the next loot all button. PERFECK! You don't know. |||| Space News |

barvo
The Order Of Entropy
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 10:53:00 -
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Kathryn Railly wrote:As long as you keep your subscriptions going CCP will continue to make these type of design decisions that go against the will of Eve's players.
What happened in the Incarna protests could only ever work once. "FIX IT OR IZ UNSUBBIN". I was on that bandwagon, I shot the statue, I cancelled my subscriptions on three accounts (only two back active now btw). But the trouble is, now every bastard sees something they don't like, and starts a thread on it saying "pledge to unsub". The trouble is, short of breaking "undock" button, I don't think CCP can ever do anything that galvanises opinion quite so hard towards mass unsubscription ever again.
Also, it's Too Much Effort to keep unsubbing every time you see an issue - hell, half the people who pledged to unsub might already still be unsubbed from that when they bought 12 months of game time, and have forgotten they're burning down the clock. The second they tick over the forgotten unsubscription, the first thing they do is not going to be to download Skyrim, it's to whip out that credit card and re-sub.
That was a one time only threat, we used it and carried through on our actions well, but it ain't going to work again for something as pathetic and trivial as "I don't like my new cargohold". What utter bullshit. |

Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
47
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:14:00 -
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^ What this guy above me said. Somebody give him a medal. |

Mallak Azaria
192
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:10:00 -
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barvo wrote:Kathryn Railly wrote:As long as you keep your subscriptions going CCP will continue to make these type of design decisions that go against the will of Eve's players. What happened in the Incarna protests could only ever work once. "FIX IT OR IZ UNSUBBIN". I was on that bandwagon, I shot the statue, I cancelled my subscriptions on three accounts (only two back active now btw). But the trouble is, now every bastard sees something they don't like, and starts a thread on it saying "pledge to unsub". The trouble is, short of breaking "undock" button, I don't think CCP can ever do anything that galvanises opinion quite so hard towards mass unsubscription ever again. Also, it's Too Much Effort to keep unsubbing every time you see an issue - hell, half the people who pledged to unsub might already still be unsubbed from that when they bought 12 months of game time, and have forgotten they're burning down the clock. The second they tick over the forgotten unsubscription, the first thing they do is not going to be to download Skyrim, it's to whip out that credit card and re-sub. That was a one time only threat, we used it and carried through on our actions well, but it ain't going to work again for something as pathetic and trivial as "I don't like my new cargohold". What utter bullshit. ETA: If it ever is required in the future, CCP will wait much longer to see the actual trend before they believe it and act on it.
Agreed. It's basically human stupidity at work here, similar to a general applying the same tactic over & over because it worked the first time. |

Baske
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:32:00 -
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Was inactive, but logged in to see the new inventory mechanics (amongst other stuff).
Logged off 5 mins later......stunned....
Now I am just patiently waiting for them to fix this mess. |

Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.06.10 14:45:00 -
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Baske wrote:Was inactive, but logged in to see the new inventory mechanics (amongst other stuff).
Logged off 5 mins later......stunned....
Now I am just patiently waiting for them to fix this mess.
It is truly ****ing terrible. The new time-wasting fail window needs to be made optional. |

Kevin Tsutola
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:59:00 -
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Well this isn't a bad idea, because all that is going on is they are slowly changing the new inventory UI to be like the old one lol. How bout we just change it back? Or give us an option because it's terrible even with the fixes. And yes if enough people do they WILL listen, that is their money |

Kevin Tsutola
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:06:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Patch notes for today's patch.Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status.
The whole issue is the Unified inventory. I'm sorry that not enough people with brains played your test server to tell you how terrible it was but sometimes you just gotta use your head and actually PLAY the game some. |
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Kevin Tsutola
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:27:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Gallinari wrote:Unsubbed over a new inventory system that works, but you're not yet used to? lol ok. I for one will NEVER get used to it. And I've used it over a month on Sisi. How about you ?
Agreed terrible change and it needs to be changed back. Was liking this game until this **** happened
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
908
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:20:00 -
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Oh...bot tears are some of the best tears. |

Captain' Jack Sparrow
53
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:40:00 -
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Hey there,
Just letting you guys know there is an "official" thread for Unified Inventory feedback. I have been told this by GMs and Devs. Head on over there and tell them what's up!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117617
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1254
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Posted - 2012.06.10 23:18:00 -
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Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote:
Posting over there does not make a lot of difference.
barvo wrote:
What happened in the Incarna protests could only ever work once. "FIX IT OR IZ UNSUBBIN". I was on that bandwagon, I shot the statue, I cancelled my subscriptions on three accounts (only two back active now btw). But the trouble is, now every bastard sees something they don't like, and starts a thread on it saying "pledge to unsub". The trouble is, short of breaking "undock" button, I don't think CCP can ever do anything that galvanises opinion quite so hard towards mass unsubscription ever again.
Unsubbing is used and abused but what else do you propose to do? Take it in he ass from developers who can't even do their own good (to stay employed)?
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Captain' Jack Sparrow
54
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Posted - 2012.06.11 00:56:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Posting over there does not make a lot of difference.
I agree.
I had a simple question that I was asking in other threads. Instead of answering my question in THOSE threads, a dev pointed me to the "official" thread I mentioned - so I posted my question there, as instructed.
I am still awaiting an answer to that question.
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Karloth Valois
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp. Sobriety Test Failures
33
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Posted - 2012.06.11 01:04:00 -
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I like it
that is all It's not been nice, but thanks for using lube
1st. Pariah Malefactor Corp. |

Sanadras Riahn
Molten Metalworks
13
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:02:00 -
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Unsubbing during the Incarna protests was a rational thing to do, as the totality of what happened was game-changing/breaking.
Unsubbing over a functionality change to an inventory screen is just tempter tantrums at this point.
It took me all of three minutes before I realized what all was happening with the Unified inventory when I opened it, then suddenly, it worked great. A few bugs aside, I LIKE this inventory screen.
If you're looking for individual loot windows for every single frakking thing, World of Warcraft features individual bags, and can be subbed to -------------------------> That way. "This is our way of wisdom, warrior. To be true. To be full. To include our hearts in every aspect of what we do. --- Let those that fly cold numbers be the Amarr. We fly better than that."---Alica Wildfire, inscribed on the inside and outer shell of Sanadras' Capsule. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1433
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:07:00 -
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Sanadras Riahn wrote:Unsubbing during the Incarna protests was a rational thing to do, as the totality of what happened was game-changing/breaking.
Unsubbing over a functionality change to an inventory screen is just tempter tantrums at this point.
It took me all of three minutes before I realized what all was happening with the Unified inventory when I opened it, then suddenly, it worked great. A few bugs aside, I LIKE this inventory screen.
If you're looking for individual loot windows for every single frakking thing, World of Warcraft features individual bags, and can be subbed to -------------------------> That way.
<------------- Hello Kitty Online that way  |

Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
1
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:18:00 -
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3 accounts now expired, unfortunately I paid a year on the card for this one. Why does CCP insist on fixing what's not broke? A true artist knows when to stop. The mona Lisa would have had tatoos and piercings if CCP painted it |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
448
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:56:00 -
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The whole thing is still clumsy as hell.
If they can't fix the looting issues can they at least give us a hotkey for 'loot all'? Tracking back and forth across the screen is a pain in the afterburner.
Can they make it so that when dragging something to another area of the tree is doesn't take over the window with that 'dropped' location if I spend more than a fraction of a second over it?
Can we get an option in the tree so that the active ship can be locked at the top of the tree and always visible? Like a split window in Excel where you can keep the top row(s) always visible? Scrolling through the tree is annoying and ties to the issue of 'spending more than a fraction of a second on a tree header and opening it up.
Can we PLEASE fix station containers configured to 'unlock' to stop locking everything we put in them when we drop multiple items?
Can we get back the functionality where dumping an entire ship's cargo bay to the item hangar will also dump any ships in that cargo bay to the station hangar?
Can we get a 'refresh' option for when the whole inventory system gets hung up and just spins and spins? You currently have to restart the client to clear it. Check out the new Orca model, brought to you by the Unified Inventory System
http://i.imgur.com/InJgK.jpg-á
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