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Discrodia Gallente Guardian Legion	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:14:00 - [1] Just randomly wondering, since it seems everyone has an opinion on what's the worst thing in EVE. Personally I hate the sov mechanic, since it basically means the only people with territory are the ones with massive capship fleets. Runs to the bunker and hopes it can withstand a direct napalmnuke strike ___________________________________________ Discrodia > Annoying idiots in 0.0 is my business. Business keeps picking up. Discrodia > I also like misquoting stuff :D
Burning Horizon The Federation Of Burnt Lasagna	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:20:00 - [2] Edited by: Burning Horizon on 28/07/2009 01:21:49 0.0 Warfare and 23/7 pos bashing and all the ****ty goon posts on CAOD
No Homo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:25:00 - [3] This thread.
No Homo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:25:00 - [4] Oh and talking forum heads who Q___Q about sov and big meanie alliances :(
Cyprus Black Caldari 4 wing Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Burning Horizon Edited by: Burning Horizon on 28/07/2009 01:21:49 0.0 Warfare and 23/7 pos bashing Gotta go with this one. Setting the alarm clock for POS bashing. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Lynmar Sutek	Posted - 2009.07.28 01:30:00 - [6] I love Eve but I guess the combat system bugs me the most. The game favors the defender too much. warp core stabs, the agility of small ships is such that it is overly difficult to lock up, undocking games on high sec stations, Control Q to avoid combat, the effects of local, etc, etc.
Stan Smith	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:00:00 - [7] there are never enough exotic dancers in my cargo hold, its so annoying!
buttesauce	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:01:00 - [8] how long it takes to warp somewhere
Erik Amirault Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:04:00 - [9] How everybody knows what is 'best' for the game... from their standpoint at least.
Cribsoffer	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:04:00 - [10] Not being able to get past the splash screen because the client won't go to the login screen.

Meridius Dex Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:09:00 - [11] That the entire system of player versus player combat encourages talentless blobbing up of superior numbers in every conceivable situation - more than 90% of which takes place on the same spot, stargates. That the only tried and true (and tiresome) tactic in EVE is the bait-and-blob. Other than those faults, it's a great game. -- Meridius Dex Visit the Gunship Forums --
mojogore	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:10:00 - [12] The sound being borked, shields and active tank sound like a train and turrets sound like a mouse farting.
Kessiaan Minmatar DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Kessiaan on 28/07/2009 04:43:14 The whole session change mechanic, and the fact that you can't dock, undock, switch ships, or jump (normally or with a jump drive) for 30 seconds after doing anything more advanced than scratching your ass. Docking, joining a fleet, moving to the appropriate slot in the fleet, switching ships, then undocking turns into a five minute operation. It's very annoying.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:06:00 - [14] Warp disruption bubbles. If there ever was a more cheap and lazy mechanic in a PvP game I can't think of it. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Herty The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Wet Ferret Warp disruption bubbles. If there ever was a more cheap and lazy mechanic in a PvP game I can't think of it. I love those. And really bubbles aren't for lazy people because they aren't a win button. But I think I hate people that complain about stuff like bubbles the most. And these forums.
Piotr Anatolev Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:18:00 - [16] ...the starmap.
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:31:00 - [17] I don't like the warp in warp out structure of gang combat, I'd like flying fleets into strategic positions and such to be possible. I also don't like the generic quality of the universe, ie more COSMOS type stuff (and 10x the amount of backgrounds and unique planets, black holes, ect) would be nice. Of course eve is still the only revolutionary MMO still out there atm, I love it!
Calvin Firenze Minmatar Demon Theory Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:41:00 - [18] When I want to clone jump and I have to leave my ship. Then I have to wait forever after pausing my skill because "session change is in progress." Slowly buying parts for a new pc, will be back ingame soon...
Keiko Shizuka	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:46:00 - [19] For me it's the UI. It's really quite dreadful in terms of usability and it ends up affecting most parts of the gameplay.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:50:00 - [20] Don't have any hate issues, have issues i'd like to be in the game, but that's just the usual way games go. it's fine as it is though. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

Emily Envy	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:05:00 - [21] The ****ty UI windows still not sticking to the place i want them to. This is driving me insane.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:11:00 - [22] Edited by: Spurty on 28/07/2009 06:13:28 Telling ship to dock and it not docking launching drones and the drone bay window vanishing for a number of seconds people in jita with a lack of humor How long it takes to do a mission and scoop all the lootz .. level 3s shouldn't be eating up 1 hour of my game time!!! Less lootz, more bounty plz. Those are just 'annoyances' actually. Only thing about the game that I dislike is when a patch changes ships about. i.e. they suddenly have 100% more hit points or go from 4 guns to 5 .. just breaks immersion for me :( Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here i was thinking earlier about corpses...
Nikita Alterana Gallente Clearly Compensating	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:19:00 - [23] I hate having to pay for it every moneth, either pulling money out of my tiny college student funds, or somehow gathering enough isk to set myself back another month. Whats that? run damsel in distress another 47 times to get enough money to run it 47 more? sure, why not. __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions!
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Nikita Alterana I hate having to pay for it every moneth, either pulling money out of my tiny college student funds, or somehow gathering enough isk to set myself back another month. Whats that? run damsel in distress another 47 times to get enough money to run it 47 more? sure, why not. It's like a second job, only you have to pay for it.
Sub 7	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:07:00 - [25] Edited by: Sub 7 on 28/07/2009 07:07:35 The way it takes so long to undock if you just changed ships.
Mova B	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Piotr Anatolev ...the starmap. THIS! The new map sucks, you can't point anything! Can't even use it anymore at all...
ThrashPower Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:22:00 - [27] I think the worst thing is that eve is not open for player developed addons.
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:24:00 - [28] Jump gates/Space mechanics The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
Kaar coracao ardente	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:31:00 - [29] The way warp speeds/accel are pretty much all the same. BS should warp at freighter speed and inty should be the fastest, would be much more tactics employed. ---
Blasphemour	Posted - 2009.07.28 09:09:00 - [30] The whining of some people over what is so bad about Eve. If you don't like it, find another game

Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2009.07.28 09:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Burning Horizon 23/7 pos bashing Going with this one. CAOD is funny on its own, and mostly a side-effect of broken POS mechanics. -
Wacktopia Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:03:00 - [32] Originally by: mechtech I also don't like the generic quality of the universe, ie more COSMOS type stuff (and 10x the amount of backgrounds and unique planets, black holes, ect) would be nice. +1
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:23:00 - [33] pirates Yay! Six months of defending! \o/ <3 to Abrazzar!
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:54:00 - [34] right now its chat windows that are tabbed togther, coming unstuck dispite the "dont to anything unless i push shift" setting on! very annoying when it does it every 10-15 mins and oyu have 15+ channels.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:56:00 - [35] - sound engine seems like it was written by a deaf, blind monkey. - neutral reppers. I guess the sov mechanics need to improve aswell yes, specially the POS bashing thing. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Mephesto Nizal Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:57:00 - [36] the lack of a line of sight
BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:10:00 - [37] I hate the fact that its set in space. It should be set in a tolkein-like past age with elves and whatnot.
Jarlath Whitbray Eve University	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:12:00 - [38] Wardeck mechanism. Needs more risk as people have more ISK. Rhymes remotely.
Darquies Shade Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:12:00 - [39] hated how they did the Ewar nerf back in cali. I agree ya needed to nerf the crap outta the moduals, but should have given more love to Bbird and Scorp.(but since ewar is. . . was my bag of tricks, i'm biased) hate how Eve kinda feels like a "baptism by fire" kinda game. I'm sure everyone here has died because they didn't know about some mechanic or rule of Eve. hate the fact in internet games in general, where people act one way and say and do things where in real life they wouldn't think twice bout even tryin to do that. but then again, i can attempt to kill ya if you stealing from me. Tryin to do that in Real life, will almost undoubtly land you in court and more likely in Jail. hate how the fact you have people who love to exploit the mechanics. it's like if it can be exploited then it should be exploited. I guess i understand all's fair in love and war, but then again I'm prolly just a carebear. hate how the forums are buggin up atm. ________________________________________________ I Protect The Helpless From The Heartless
Darquies Shade Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:14:00 - [40] oh yea. . . hate the fact people mistake me for being french and/or canadian What the Hell people??? ________________________________________________ I Protect The Helpless From The Heartless

Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:23:00 - [41] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 28/07/2009 11:23:15 Originally by: Darquies Shade oh yea. . . hate the fact people mistake me for being french and/or canadian Must be aboot your smile eh? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Wacktopia Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:30:00 - [42] The fact that when you ship is heading toward a roid, rock or whatever that it cant STEER ROUND IT. Instead you get helplessly stuck, turning left and right, like a fish out of water.
Chantilly Layce	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:30:00 - [43] "Hate" is such a strong word...but it's the right one. For me, in order of disdain: 1) Going thru the "drive thru" window at most Gallente stations. I mean, dammit, it's pitiful. The staff are almost always screwing up my order, and that's if they're not already on some whimsical "strike" for some ridiculous Gallentean labour issue. 2) Traffic. I mean, WTF? Pirates everywhere, deliberately creating gridlock as a pretense for holding out their hand while they spit on your ****pit window and then whip out their squeegie -- or worse. 3) Beggars. What's up with that? And, what's worse, is most of them are Gallentean and they have the (ahem) gaul to strut about like it's their right to my ISK. Peasants! Bah!
Skalet	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:34:00 - [44] with a couple of exceptions, this thread has done nothing but bring out the whiners. go play something else.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Skalet with a couple of exceptions, this thread has done nothing but bring out the whiners. go play something else. totally forgot about 2 things: - whiners - whiners that whine about whiners crap, that makes me one of them --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Discrodia Gallente Guardian Legion	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Skalet with a couple of exceptions, this thread has done nothing but bring out the whiners. go play something else. Did you read all these posts or just make assumptions? Every other MMO is worse by miles around, that doesn't mean EVE is automatically perfect. ___________________________________________ Discrodia > Annoying idiots in 0.0 is my business. Business keeps picking up. Discrodia > I also like misquoting stuff :D
robbyx	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:39:00 - [47] I hate the head guy at CCP...i dont know who he is, or even care to know, but i hate him all the same. In my opinion, EVE is one of the greatest games of all time...or could be, the fact that it isnt speaks volumes to the extraordinary lack of talent at the top....i mean releasing the first ever boxed version, the first look at EVE for the general public....and it has absolutely no sound at all...the moron who ok'ed this should never be allowed in charge of anything...ever again....did i mention that i hate him ?
Vyktor Abyss Gallente The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:46:00 - [48] I hate the unrealised potential of Eve. It is very scary what Eve could become as a game, but due to CCP development time limitations, it never quite gets there.
Wai Ng'Tse	Posted - 2009.07.28 12:12:00 - [49] specialised ships... meh sorry to say, but I'd like it if any ship could fit any role. It would make it more interesting. Today it's like "oh falcon, we're going to get jammed" or ... "oh drake, don't bother attacking it, it's got an insane passive shield tank" or ... "oh onyx, just mwd out of its bubble" etc. etc. Eve requires too little thinking because everything is cookie cutter these days. I certainly fall into this category, I fly vagas a lot, and I use a very cookie cutter setup. Everyone knows what to expect from every ship nowadays. I just wish t3 became a LOT cheaper, because then we won't have this problem... sigh :p
Discrodia Gallente Guardian Legion	Posted - 2009.07.28 12:51:00 - [50] Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse specialised ships... meh sorry to say, but I'd like it if any ship could fit any role. It would make it more interesting. Today it's like "oh falcon, we're going to get jammed" or ... "oh drake, don't bother attacking it, it's got an insane passive shield tank" or ... "oh onyx, just mwd out of its bubble" etc. etc. Eve requires too little thinking because everything is cookie cutter these days. I certainly fall into this category, I fly vagas a lot, and I use a very cookie cutter setup. Everyone knows what to expect from every ship nowadays. I just wish t3 became a LOT cheaper, because then we won't have this problem... sigh :p TBH I doubt they'd fall below 300mil total, but it's a nice thought. T3 PvP would be awesome. ___________________________________________ Discrodia > Annoying idiots in 0.0 is my business. Business keeps picking up. Discrodia > I also like misquoting stuff :D

Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:28:00 - [51] Can't buy sp boosts with Real Cash. Should be allowed to spend 2 plex on one account for 2x sp gain. (or 2 training characters but that's a different story)
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:36:00 - [52] Station games and NPC alts. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Lt Forge Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:51:00 - [53] That CCP is pro-Caldari. _____________
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse specialised ships... meh sorry to say, but I'd like it if any ship could fit any role. It would make it more interesting. Today it's like "oh falcon, we're going to get jammed" or ... "oh drake, don't bother attacking it, it's got an insane passive shield tank" or ... "oh onyx, just mwd out of its bubble" etc. etc. Eve requires too little thinking because everything is cookie cutter these days. I certainly fall into this category, I fly vagas a lot, and I use a very cookie cutter setup. Everyone knows what to expect from every ship nowadays. I just wish t3 became a LOT cheaper, because then we won't have this problem... sigh :p What to exect form ships in one thing, tho more often then not I am kind of supprised how bad ships are fitted, even tho i expect them to be awesome :P Even skilled pilots fly lots of garbage fits in PvP :P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Azirapheal Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:53:00 - [55] the 0.0/pos war balls, and the fact that you can travel through highsec everywhere. azi - palying eve on chuck norris difficulty since 2006 Originally by: Grohalmatar The proposed changes in the game development forum are obviously a nerf to falcon pilots. However, what they really are is a nerf to falcon alts.
Michwich	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:06:00 - [56] Edited by: Michwich on 28/07/2009 14:08:21 The lack of any kind of arena style combat PVP.
Jasmina Melt Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:06:00 - [57] Desync ** ** á á
Gripen Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:08:00 - [58] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I hate the unrealised potential of Eve. It is very scary what Eve could become as a game, but due to CCP development time limitations, it never quite gets there. This
Taua Roqa Minmatar junQtion	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:22:00 - [59] people who think the freedom to be an arse is an obligation to be one.
5pinDizzy Amarr Caldari State 1st Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:24:00 - [60] The worst thing about Eve is true about all aspects of life I'd say. Other People Not all of them, just those certain ones you wish would just crawl off under a rock somewhere and never come back.

Jethr0	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:39:00 - [61] I would have to say ppl in this game is the worst thing second for me would be not being able train skills for more then one toon on an account at the same time, this game has a value-for-money issue imo.
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:42:00 - [62] ccp customer service, if you had the misfortune of dealing with them, you know what i mean. sovereignty mechanics which make 0.0 a big stalemate, lest ccp is finally looking to change the mechanics finally. ccp's development schedule, after announcing a exciting or not so exciting new feature expect to wait 2 to 3 years to see it with about a billion posts "when will we see fish on stations?" or "when is the new grpahics update" or "when will we nerf falcon and be able to paint our ships pink?" granted we see these updates for free so can't comp[lain too much, if this was WoW you all would have gotten the content much faster but payed 39.99 to 49.99 for all of it.
Sir Muffoon Carried Hate	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:42:00 - [63] The fact that CCP routinely thinks it's a good idea to put all the good agents in one station in lowsec/0.0 and then string out alaod of worthless agents across the rest of the region.
McRoll Minmatar Heatseekers	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:50:00 - [64] Docking games and bubbles
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:59:00 - [65] the fact ccp allows other people into my game does not endear them to me especially when so many of them are antisocial types. other players should be banned as they are obviously exploiting something or other. bet you thought i was serious ;)
Asunori	Posted - 2009.07.28 16:05:00 - [66] That it is all about the ISK, nothing else.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.28 16:27:00 - [67] forum whiners that complain about "imbalance" and "overpowered". ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Ares Vakan Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.07.28 16:37:00 - [68] * The way this forum functions * Blob warfare * POS warfare * Jump bridges * Titans
ShadowGod56	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:16:00 - [69] blobs
Gone'Postal Void Engineers Mass - Effect	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:17:00 - [70] The UI It sucks. Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.

Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Keiko **uka For me it's the UI. It's really quite dreadful in terms of usability and it ends up affecting most parts of the gameplay. One hundred times THIS! I think the game is fine, however! ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Takon Orlani Caldari Heretic Army Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:25:00 - [72] I hate carebear whines. ROWDY WANTS YOU!!
dojocan81	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:37:00 - [73] caldari at all oh wait ....
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:42:00 - [74] The fact that EVE cannot open in windowed mode (it hangs) on any of my computers without a serious jury rigging effort. This is the second time I've had to endure a crash bug just to play EVE (the first one was the sound software acceleration one, had that for a while two years ago, now this has been going on for 6 months or more (I think since the Empyrean Age), I have a work around but still...... makes trying to open up 2 accounts on 2 monitors a pain (because the workaround doesn't work if another client is open in windowed mode). I hate the 0.0 POS mechanic but I have trouble thinking of one that solves the current problems without making large fleets far less relevant. I hate the fact that lvl 4s provide such an easy income to empire carebears (providing them with no reason to go to 0.0, if it was possible to make more money despite dying more often, people would move), I also hate that you can salvage said missions with literally zero risk, nothing should be zero risk in EVE and the ease of the profession is devaluing more important ones such as mining or ratting in 0.0 (one provides raw materials for the market which if there is an influx, profit margins rise temporarily, 0.0 ratters provide targets for pvp) -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:43:00 - [75] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 28/07/2009 18:45:31 EVE, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. Right clicking (or Option-clicking on the Mac) That you can't navigate to an arbitrary point in space, unless somehow you have gotten there before and saved a bookmark. That you cannot choose your warp distance or speed, but can only warp to max distance at max speed. If that's too far or too fast: sucks to be you. That you can't anchor anything interesting away from a moon. That you must fight with twitch reflexes while using RTS-style controls. You can't maneuver your ship in any direction but the one the camera is facing. The camera has beautifully done cinematic motion controls, which you can't use at all to improve combat awareness (unless you sit still at warp-in to shoot mission NPCs). *-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then* --**
Arlen Seek Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.28 18:56:00 - [76] The inability to compete in any facet of eve with those that have multiple account. <ducks and runs from the trolls> Cogito, ergo sum
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.07.28 19:46:00 - [77] The UI. Lack of hotkey options, which is compounded by the bad UI. --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Iece Quaan Caldari Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.07.28 19:47:00 - [78] The paper-rock-scissors nature of pvp. You either know you can win so are the aggressor, or know you will lose so you have to flee. Warp scrammed = dead and there isn't anything you can do about it. Nothing's worse than that finger-tapping period waiting to die in a situation you can't affect. Incredible loss penalties for infinitesimal errors in judgement.
Kaylan Jahlar Minmatar Industrial Limited	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:07:00 - [79] Edited by: Kaylan Jahlar on 28/07/2009 20:08:08 About the game itself: The poor UI design (for both usability and appearance). About the community: Elitists... I can't stand their c o c k y and snobbish attitude. ---- Advanced combat probing guide: A clever use of the directional scanner
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:32:00 - [80] Originally by: Burning Horizon 0.0 Warfare and 23/7 pos bashing This one too. And blobs. Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(

Kintaro Haijima	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:32:00 - [81] Edited by: Kintaro Haijima on 28/07/2009 20:33:37 Originally by: Haradgrim The fact that EVE cannot open in windowed mode (it hangs) on any of my computers without a serious jury rigging effort. This is the second time I've had to endure a crash bug just to play EVE (the first one was the sound software acceleration one, had that for a while two years ago, now this has been going on for 6 months or more (I think since the Empyrean Age), I have a work around but still...... makes trying to open up 2 accounts on 2 monitors a pain (because the workaround doesn't work if another client is open in windowed mode). I believe this may be an issue with your grphx card or drivers. I've had 2 systems one a P4 and now my i7. Both dual screen. I run in windowed mode constantly with up to 4 clients at a time(it was rough on the P4 system). Only problem I've encountered is when I close one client it will sometimes throw an error and pop up the old windows error reporting system. Never had any problems running more than one client in windowed mode either in XP or Windows 7.
Captain Clyde	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:50:00 - [82] Originally by: Gone'Postal The UI It sucks. To expand on this... Being able to get information in a timely manner. After all, these are supposed to be advanced spaceships right? Examples: Damage and type being done to you Your current DPS - Potential vs. Actual Hard to see current states of actions taken against you (Scramble, Cap Drain, etc.) Actual effective range of weapons (calculated for you in the UI) Better response from the UI - Example: Using the map to get information about a system is ridiculously slow! The HUD - There has to be a better model to display objects in space around the ship in a graphical manner rather then just a simple list that doesnÆt always sort correctly. Things that are manual that should be automatic. Example: Scanning. I should be able to set up my scanners to æpulseÆ over a specific time period to watch for probes in low sec. There is just so much in this UI that is manual when in a more advanced world it should be automatic. I feel like I have to fight the UI as much as other ships with all the micromanaging and parsing of information that should be readily available.
Teras Menac Gallente Caldari POS Constructions Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.28 21:12:00 - [83] Edited by: Teras Menac on 28/07/2009 21:16:15 That T2 ships are basically uninsurable. The skill queue is too short. That Faction War doesn't give you LP for fighting for the Faction or some other Empire based reward. Not being able to parse market data by user specified parameters. Not having any control over how things are displayed in your item windows. The Corp mechanic not giving you more control over permissions to non-corp members. That it costs 1b isk to make an alliance between two corps. That modules have a timed amount instead of a certain amount per second. IE, armor rep should be like 50hp/s 20cap/s and you can turn them on and off at will. Afterburners/MWDs should take less power the less speed you are using.
Rhaegor Stormborn H A V O C	Posted - 2009.07.28 21:21:00 - [84] Titans Jump Bridges Blobs
Hot Fudge Minmatar Sweet -N- Sticky	Posted - 2009.07.28 21:46:00 - [85] Not being able to warp to zero without instas... oh, wait.. nm... ========================= Sweet, sticky, and bad for your health.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.07.28 22:31:00 - [86] 1. The UI, or lack of ability to move stuff around very well like targets. I still haven't figured out how people get the list of targets to go vertical or get them down by your mods/cap display. 2. The fact that there's no distinction btwn containers in space and containers in stations in regards to window settings. Containers should keep their settings depending on type...a station container shouldn't use the settings of a can or wreck in space, corp hangar shouldn't use any of those either. They should maintain their own window settings. 3. Combat log display. I hate the messages that flash by "xxx does xxx damage blah blah blah" in a little window in the middle of the screen. I'd much rather have a chat window display of it so I can scroll through it etc, much more informative. 4. Lack of information period. The ewar display on the overview was a good step in the right direction, but the lack of display of information on targets other than your own modules kinda sux. I'd like to be able to get some type of information about who in my fleet has what activated on which of the targets I have locked. 5. Lack of ability to do keybinding differently. F1-F8 and variations don't do much for me. I'd like to be able to bind stuff like that to the G keys on my G15. A note about the tactical information (or lack thereof) It would be awesome if you could, instead of just stare at your ship or whatever, when you flip to tactical display get information readouts on selected targets etc. Zoom the camera out and information about your target gets displayed vertically along the sides of the screen, like along the overview or the eve icon bar or something, or even a window. Adding extra information to the overview is kinda kewl, but a bit cumbersome. For instance, you select a target and something like this prints out along one of the sides of the screen: <Velocity> <Tansversal> <Shield HP> <Armor HP> <Signature Radius> <Current incoming DPS (on you)> <Distance> <Active EWar : Durration> etc...
Ryhss Caldari The Last Legion	Posted - 2009.07.28 22:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Erik Amirault How everybody knows what is 'best' for the game... from their standpoint at least. This. I hate "builds". I pay for this game to have fun, but if I play someone elses ideas, as good as they might be, it is not fun
Avoida	Posted - 2009.07.28 23:36:00 - [88] 1. The UI 2. The UI 3. The UI
Verx Interis Amarr SkyNet. Cruor-Salax Legion	Posted - 2009.07.28 23:43:00 - [89] The fact that so few people ever engage unless they're sure to win.. What happened to all the people who just want some fun pew pew? This is something that really irks me, even on the TEST SERVER where everything is 100 ISK people still run a lot of the time. I've had a zealot on sisi run from my omen ---- Logins required for this post: 157899
Grytok Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.07.28 23:59:00 - [90] Capital Ships.

Che Biko Polytechnique Gallenteenne	Posted - 2009.07.29 00:20:00 - [91] That I can't train all characters in one account simultaniously.
Celestrias Gallente Mid Knights Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.07.29 00:21:00 - [92] Customer Support.
Karl Luckner	Posted - 2009.07.29 00:31:00 - [93] Scotty Shield hardener sound Hotdropping
Zeetchmen	Posted - 2009.07.29 03:32:00 - [94] Session change in progress....
Decayes Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.29 04:00:00 - [95] I hate local window, it should either be removed or all locals should be changed like wormhole local. Your scanner cant detect what ship nevermind what type of ship there in unless your in like 14au range but your local window can detect there name, there little bio and there complete eve employment history.. amazing
Spass Stoiantschewsky	Posted - 2009.07.29 04:18:00 - [96] Hi, I'm Spass Stoiantschewsky. Thing I hate most about internet spaceships is that Outside MMO is not as fun.
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.29 04:54:00 - [97] Originally by: Lt Forge That CCP is pro-Caldari. OMG THIS ======= Homeworld Hamachi Network
Opertone Caldari Monsters	Posted - 2009.07.29 07:20:00 - [98] Warping mechanics - the idea of warping away kills the idea of speed, free combat and long range guns... Silly enough all combat has to conducted within 20 km range, then it becomes a game of cat mouse Warping kills most of PvP
Munchees Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.29 07:37:00 - [99] I hate EVE Online in general. It has gone downhill since Apocrypha. No wait, since Quantum Rise. Scratch that, since Empyrean Age. Wait no! Since Trinity. Actual that's not it. Since Revelations II. Or was it Revelations I? No, no, actually since Bloodlines. Wait that's still not it! Exodus: Red Moon Rising! NO! Exodus: Cold War! NOT even that actually! Exodus! Yeah, basically since Exodus this game has been a downhill spiral. Originally by: Mr Reeth Why is it every time I read somebody call all Americans stupid I hear it in a British accent and think of this
Taradis Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.07.29 08:00:00 - [100] I hate the isk spammers, scammers and general dumbasses, forum trolls and people accusing people of trolling when in fact it could possibly be a legit thing they are posting about and the dip****s that post links in the forums and the masses click on the link only to find out that they have been infected by a trojan and not the condom. Oh and I also hate lag.

Veliria	Posted - 2009.07.29 11:19:00 - [101] Blobbing and being camped into a station mostly. Small gangs/solo is still doable though...sorta...
Town Bike	Posted - 2009.07.29 11:39:00 - [102] - Huge amount of timesinks - Salvaging & looting takes far far too long, very boring - Terrible UI
Kel'dar Drax	Posted - 2009.07.29 12:48:00 - [103] The UI...CCP should be ashamed that it has remained like this for 6+ years.
Spirit Broker	Posted - 2009.07.29 14:02:00 - [104] 1. The UI. Enough said. 2. The fact that CCP tailors this game to force people to get multiple accounts. I have one account thank you, in all of the MMO's I have ever played (quite a few) I have only ever needed one account. I refuse to ever get a second. You can say this is to make it more of a Multi Player game. Thats nice. My main is in an 0.0 alliance but that does not always mean that someone will be available/willing to help me rat/mission/mine/survive. I know that the simple act of paying CCP twice as much per month (or using GTC/PLEX which is an indirect way of paying CCP the money) would greatly enhance my power/efficency. I would make far more isk faster, and be deadlier in pvp. CCP clearly cares more about thier bottom line than the Multi Player part, as shown by the numerous offers I have gotten for the "Power of Two" crap. /endrant 3. Jump clone cool down. If I want to pvp on a regular basis I have to expect not only ship loss (acceptable) but pod kills. So I have to use a jump clone to not loose all my high end implants that make training go so much faster. However I can only switch every 24 hours... So if I want to be ready to defend my territory, I have to basically spend all of my time without my training implants in, and suffer a significant loss of training speed. Solution? Have jump clone CD affected by distance you jump. 4. Lack of symmetry on ship models. For the love of balanced thrust and all thats holy people. So many ships would look so much better if they were symetrical. Even some of the horribly ugly ones like the Caldari. Sorry Minmatar, you're still flying rust heaps. I actualy take into account what the ship looks like before I decide to fly it, not just it's stats. Maybe I'm a freak for doing that, but astetics matter. 5. Fleet interface. It's clunky, broadcasts are nearly worthless, it interferes with almost any other action you try to do... Who the hell coded this ****? I mean forget trying to fleet up on the fly while your system is under attack, you might as well self destruct and call it a day. 6. Traveling. Is it really neccessary to make it this tedious? I mean, adding WtZ helped alot, and definitly freed up alot of space in my bookmark folder, but still. I think we have a lot more to go on this. 7. Insurance. Worthless for T2 ships. Not worth my time on half the T1 ships I fly. Shouldn't be that hard to fix. 8. The lack of towels available for purchase in Jita.
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.07.29 14:14:00 - [105] 1. Outdated and clunky UI 2. No LUA script..this is free to CCP, they don't even need a licence. It would remove 99% of interface complaints and add a lot to the game (including advanced fleet management). 3. No AA/AF (It can be done, I'm doing it now but I have to use nHancer) It makes a massive difference to the graphics which are otherwise very good. 4. Sack the sound programmers. Hire some chimps. They clearly have little or no MMO experience in the way sound works in MMO's and cannot fix bugs that are easily reproducible. Otherwise the game is great with a limitless amount of potential. Its nice to play a game for once where the Devs do seem to know the game extremely well and care about it.
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.29 14:16:00 - [106] The fact that CCP is always taking too long to fix things that are breaking the game balance (moonmining atm) The soundengine. I have no problem with the UI tbh (besides the odd bug) :p
Saartje Sarel	Posted - 2009.07.29 15:27:00 - [107] Originally by: Piotr Anatolev ...the starmap. I'm supporting this. Its absolutely horrific and long, long overdue a revamp.
Nydia Carver	Posted - 2009.07.29 15:30:00 - [108] Originally by: Discrodia Just randomly wondering, since it seems everyone has an opinion on what's the worst thing in EVE. Personally I hate the sov mechanic, since it basically means the only people with territory are the ones with massive capship fleets. Runs to the bunker and hopes it can withstand a direct napalmnuke strike Forums. Filled with whiners and spammers.
Magna Monez	Posted - 2009.07.29 15:31:00 - [109] I hate all the Alts! (but admit to using them all the time myself) (I am one actually :-))
Dominatus Crispus Gallente Nation of Muppets	Posted - 2009.07.29 15:35:00 - [110] the bugs and such in eve are tolerable... its the forum trolls that are the most annouying. Corp/Allaince Setup & Tweaking / Faction Standings Boost [Details]

Huey Xiong	Posted - 2009.07.29 17:31:00 - [111] I hate how they took away the awesome capital jump affect (half the reason why Im cap spec'd).
Esseter	Posted - 2009.07.29 18:28:00 - [112] Originally by: Blasphemour If you don't like it, find another game That sentence.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2009.07.29 20:34:00 - [113] Poor grammar and spelling.
Ottersmacker FireTech In Tea We Trust	Posted - 2009.07.29 20:35:00 - [114] local
Emily Jean	Posted - 2009.07.29 20:46:00 - [115] Threads like this, and me responding.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.29 21:08:00 - [116] Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 29/07/2009 21:15:15 1) Session change timer 2) Lack of an Interbus Station 3) Lack of player impact on the storyline and the world, NPC factions should be governed by true AI and develop themselves, influenced by player actions. See dwarf fortress, please! 4) Lack of things to build. No place to call home, nothing cool to build for corps/alliances. Player-shaped universe my ass. 5) FW woes. 6) Most horrible UI of any game ever. 7) Solar systems are all the same, mostly empty. The warp game mechanic isn't that nice either. ---
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.29 21:12:00 - [117] Originally by: Spurty How long it takes to do a mission and scoop all the lootz .. level 3s shouldn't be eating up 1 hour of my game time!!! Less lootz, more bounty plz. This would lead to a complete new balance of Material sink/faucets as well as isk sink/faucets. I wouldn't hold my breath for that getting changed... However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Kel Nissa	Posted - 2009.07.29 21:27:00 - [118] my top 1: no global faction war, no meaning behind races (rationale: i really believed that it exists within my first eve weeks because the story and advertisment material give the impression that it exists). --- other then that: - the fact that ccp is not man enough to maintain a public bugtracker containing non-exploitable known issues -- sound engine still broken -- several aspects corp management facilities (hangar permissions, security logs) useless -- loot vs salvage flagging not in line (yeah i know that many people believe that something liek that is bad for the image, but the trueth is that real transparency is good for your image) - alts or more the fact that to much of all efforts concentrate in single player instead of enforcing multi player behavior multiplayer related: - it would be really neat to enforce team-missions .. even if its not pvp, its still an really importent aspect of the game
Chantilly Layce	Posted - 2009.07.31 00:07:00 - [119] About the only thing I can really complain about is the quality of smacktalk. Hey, I love it because EvE is a game with great social dyanmics. But when the wee lad on the other end of the convo can only muster up "ur ghey" as a response to any number of perceived offences...truly, I weep for some quality smack. <tear>
Hieronimus Rex Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia	Posted - 2009.07.31 05:11:00 - [120] The manufacturing system is painfully tedious. I tried invention and it was profitable but I couldn't stand the mind numbing right click invent over and over and over again. Right click manufacture, etc etc. There needs to be invent all/manufacture all (over multiple factory slots for multiple bpos, rather than one at a time).

Lurana Lay Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.31 05:54:00 - [121] Edited by: Lurana Lay on 31/07/2009 05:58:11 1. The only online game I ever heard of where the Devs can play in player run corps and alliances, sometimes in positions of incredible importance, for years without any oversight or transparency whatever. 2. UI and font 3. Slow grinds and fast pvp. 4. Sov/Pos. 5. Stupid boosts and massive overnerfs. There is no such thing as sublety, finesse or incremental changes. 6. Zero attention to Bounty Hunting and other LowSuck issues. 7. It's too easy to get around, by FAR. JB's, Jump Freighters, Carriers, etc. 8. Horrible forums.
Scaldo Pwncakes Gallente The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.07.31 06:28:00 - [122] Ship insurance - get rid of it.
Gerard Deneth Caldari Pavlov Labs GmBH Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2009.07.31 07:57:00 - [123] Funnily, the planetary data. A planet's closer to the sun then mercury and is as cold as pluto? it's got pitiful gravity but is supposedly home to billions? ---------------------------- The Game's always changing under your feet; don't start moaning when you get a toe caught in the gears.
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2009.07.31 09:58:00 - [124] ISK buyers.
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.07.31 10:04:00 - [125] Implants. I hate not being in an implanted clone to speed learning up, and I don't want to lose it and don't want to pay 50mil for everytime I die, so I stay docked half the time (unless I'm doing a bunch of pvp in lowsec, but I live in 0.0 so this is a problem) Other than that personal quarrel, everything else I hate has been said. ________________________________________________ Am I an alt, main, or both? You decide!
Rackoon	Posted - 2009.07.31 10:30:00 - [126] Edited by: Rackoon on 31/07/2009 10:30:35 T3 Ships. The Strategic Cruiser is a pure status symbol. Unless t3 battleships are brought out, they will never see widespread use. Especially given the value of such a ship. Add to that fact that it, even with VERY good skills, the ship is only marginally better than a drake, and CCP are wasting their time.
Discrodia Gallente Guardian Legion SCUM.	Posted - 2009.07.31 11:06:00 - [127] TBH I also hate the drake, since any battlecruiser that requires either a Gankfitted battleship or several fleet fitted battleships to take down is obviously a little on the overpowered side. Especially when only the Caldari have the ubertanky moster. ___________________________________________ I can see my house from here! It's just... err.... you know, a few galaxies over. But I swear it's there!
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.31 13:20:00 - [128] 1) Unanchoring POS module timers. Not so much the lengths in themselves, since you can go off and do something whilst they are unanchoring, but the fact that if you want to take down a fully fitted POS in one day, you have to be logged in for 12 hours straight 2) IGB Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Jarvis Hellstrom Gallente The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2009.07.31 14:32:00 - [129] Using creaky game mechanics to 'win' is a big one. Like most of the really sad scam tactics that wouldn't work in the EVE universe but work because of holes in the UI/Contract Interface etc. Exceptionally rude people who think that being in an MMO is a licence to act like a sociopath is another - although that seems to be a very large subset of people. SOV mechanics and the rigidity of nullsec is a third. Wormholes have allievated this somewhat, thankfully but going further down that path is desireable. Nullsec is empty right now because any attempt to colonize the empty areas results in a huge cap fleet showing up to nuke the attempt allowing folks to easily hold space they don't even use. That metric should be reversed. It should be hard to hold the space you DO use and nearly impossible to do much of anything in space you don't. May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk (Old Egyptian Blessing)
Stegas Tyrano Gallente GREY COUNCIL THE R0NIN	Posted - 2009.07.31 14:38:00 - [130] The forums.

Kiri Serrensun	Posted - 2009.07.31 14:41:00 - [131] 1: More ships is always better. There is almost no combat role where the solution isn't simply to bring more guys. Hey, if you can organise a group of that size, you should get some benefit, I can see that. But in nearly every case, if you try for the fabled "small gang" warfare that everyone seems to regard as the ideal of PVP and the other side brings a blob, you're going to lose. 2: Not enough NRDS zones in 0.0. There's so much potential for player-run communities and economies, with roles for smaller groups, but the model of "permacamp gate into our region of which we only use half, kill all entrants regardless of why they're there" seems to have become the standard. 3: Directional scanner. I hate using this thing in an inner system. Yes, I know there are 20 wrecks, two large POS towers, and 32 small pulse laser batteries in range. Really, you don't have to keep telling me every time I scan.
Essial	Posted - 2009.07.31 15:17:00 - [132] Well this game has the worst sound system of any game I own (even 1990s ones) - both the general quality, as well as the actual audio itself. Throw on it technical issues with the starmap and EVE is the ONLY game I have ever played that sounds better with the master volume set to 0.
Glasgow MegaSnake	Posted - 2009.07.31 15:40:00 - [133] Originally by: Piotr Anatolev ...the starmap. and scam spamming in Jita. At least be a confidence trickster if you're gonna scam.
Bob1025	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:09:00 - [134] I don't like how the slaves are being lame and aren't increasing my ship's number of stars (4.5/5!!!!!111one!!1)
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:12:00 - [135] I hate it that the classic client was removed... When am I gunna get a mobile skill-changing client CCP??? ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
zombiedeadhead Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:29:00 - [136] Not being able to play for the last 3 months.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:30:00 - [137] market font Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW
crazyiven Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.31 18:10:00 - [138] A player name Dalic and the people that protect him.. other then that EVE is great if you can find a corp worth a crap.
randomname4me	Posted - 2009.07.31 18:21:00 - [139] keylogger spam EVE Online: Rated RRR- For Explicit Breakfast Piercing Bullets.
MaxPower 519 Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated	Posted - 2009.07.31 18:53:00 - [140] this thread... I hate it

Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.31 18:56:00 - [141] Originally by: ThaMa Gebir I hate it that the classic client was removed... When am I gunna get a mobile skill-changing client CCP??? Laptop? Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i for one, like 8's that look like 9's lol
Rune v3nus	Posted - 2009.07.31 19:09:00 - [142] that the same system background in jita is also to be found in deep 0.0 aswell as numerous places elsewhere all over the galaxy breaks atmosphaere rather make it like in freelancer with system backgrounds oh and also add real nebulas
Noskill McCheese Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.31 20:09:00 - [143] I dislike how advantageous multiple accounts are, and how the people who win a pvp engagement due to extra alts always feel the need to say 'lol pwnd nub'. Hate is a pretty strong word tho bro.
Rackoon	Posted - 2009.08.01 10:25:00 - [144] IGB - Needs replacing, period.
Marlona Sky D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.01 11:52:00 - [145] Edited by: Marlona Sky on 01/08/2009 11:53:29 More than one character on an account. Sadly it would be impossible to reverse that but I always wonder what the game would be like if someone was at war in empire, and they wanted to scout and they actually went to scout themselves instead of, "One sec, I will use noob alt to check it out." No more 'neutral' cynos, blah blah... Reading the whole five pages list a slew of things that I agree on that I don't like about the game. Unfortunatly there are things that we can say, "This is a bad way to do this." but the problem is, it will have to do till something better can be thought of that will ACTUALLY work for the game. CCP has asked in the past that the UI is utter crap, they hate it as much as we do, it is 'Excel in space' I am sure they labeled it. Low sec has issues, everyone agress, but no one has a "REAL" solution right now.
Arec Bardwin	Posted - 2009.08.01 14:14:00 - [146] Originally by: Emily Envy The ****ty UI windows still not sticking to the place i want them to. This is driving me insane. THIS. OMG THIS. Armoured C - school girl she has the best boobs 'she so cute' ,so beautiful in this vid
Timdog93	Posted - 2009.08.01 16:23:00 - [147] Sound system sucks. I LOVE a lot of the noises, but when I can't hear them half the time for no reason it's just stupid.
Intang Salud Gallente Chumly Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.01 17:46:00 - [148] Originally by: Mova B Originally by: Piotr Anatolev ...the starmap. THIS! The new map sucks, you can't point anything! Can't even use it anymore at all... +1 ... it is unusable. Just be grateful that the Internet offers alteratives
Darius Brinn Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2009.08.01 18:44:00 - [149] 1) Random disconnects mean you lose your drones, which you cannot reconnect to, while 1K ISK-worth probes have such a system implemented. Honestly, once you get into your drone control range, you should be able to take control and either use them, or command them to get back. 2)Music. Glitchy. http://www.geocities.com/vagrantweapons/db.jpg
shortattenionsp	Posted - 2009.08.01 20:29:00 - [150] Finding quality non gank/blob pvp is really hard sometimes. The amount of trashtalking teenagers / maladjusted neckbeards is annoying also. Internet tough guys make me lol. The starmap too is pants.

Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.08.01 20:40:00 - [151] When your ship gets destroyed and it zooms all the way up close to your pod, even if you were zoomed all the way out to reduce lag. ________________________________________________ Am I an alt, main, or both? You decide!
AkRoYeR Amarr	Posted - 2009.08.01 20:46:00 - [152] 1. Station humping 2. Gate humping 3. Station humping 4. Gate humping 5. Station humping 6. Gate humping 7. Did I mention the massive amount of humping?
Royaldo Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.01 20:59:00 - [153] 1. npc corps 2. people ***ing about lvl4 3. people ***ing about high sec 4. bitter vets mouthing off about glory days and how great eve was in 03
Scrapyard Attendant	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:07:00 - [154] hi-sec pirates/greifers that are scared of lowsec
Lord Zoran Order of Anarchy The Laughing Men	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:08:00 - [155] some of the people that play and that things in eve take so long sometimes.
Dr Cron Northern Lights Number 5	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:56:00 - [156] My main gripe is when CCP drastically changes stuff which were generally fine in ways that seem to make them worse, such as... * Effects (Capital Jump, Nos, Sensor Booster) * -10 being red flashy * Sledgehammer Nerfs (Lots) * Sound * Glitches (drone window, gang mechanics, session/agro timers)
Zothike Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.01 22:12:00 - [157] the lack of consequence for ppl act, in doing big scam or corp / alliance thieving ,making them "famous" or if it turn bad, > buy a 70m sp toon with the money u stole > start a brand new life and eventually ruin 2000 new person game > start a new cycle
Karentaki Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.01 22:28:00 - [158] I hate 3 things: The fact that the probing system is still full of bugs after several months. The fact that drones (half the gallente weapons) are useless against sleepers. Anyone crying about PVP in Eve (a PVP game). Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Princess Loretta	Posted - 2009.08.01 23:46:00 - [159] When people respond to posts about being fed up with Eve with "Can I have your Stuff". It wasn't that funny the first time I read it. At least the OP was original though - the rest are just sheep
Johnny Gurkha Repo Distribution and Salvage	Posted - 2009.08.02 00:52:00 - [160] The replacement cyno effect. It's ** and they know it's **... bring back the fireworks you stubborn Icelandic "rassgats"

Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic	Posted - 2009.08.02 01:06:00 - [161] well there are ALOT of valid points in this thread, the ones that get me. session timers new cyno effects new tower effects (having gal towers garble my entire screen, flip on an axis and disapear etc, im assuming a designed effect as its been like it for MONTHS and still like it) i like in eve how losing a t2 ship is expensive, otherwise war and pvp would be pointless, and too easy to replace losses, on another note, the large allainces holding moons which pay for there ships, meaning the only people that have a good chance of taking on these allainces are those that have there own hi end moon stashes, whole cap fleets being lost and replaced in a matter of days due to a handfull of moons is not ballanced! the fact ccp feel the need to massivly change mods/ships after months/years of them being a certain way, iv been around a while and iv seen so many of these changes, and at least some of them after years of how they were!! eve needs more isk sinks, good bought from npc sellers, ie ship visual mods/paint jobs npc corp isk farmers, lvl 4's etc.. im all for lvl 4's and isk making, but there needs to be risk vs reward, they need to be in corps so at the very least they can be deced. on the same note, starter corp tax <3 months - 0% tax 3-6 months - 25% tax 5-9months - 50% tax 9+ 75% tax this way it does not effect new players and has downsides for long termers. joining a corp, then leaving it again does not work as soon as you go back to a normal npc corp your hot with an 50% corp tax off the bat raising to 75% after 3 months in that corp. thats all i can be bothered to type now, but ofc there is alot more :)
Stupid' Jerk Minmatar	Posted - 2009.08.02 02:36:00 - [162] station hugging and titans
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.08.02 02:56:00 - [163] Ship changing session timers. Just have one undock session timer that expires 30 seconds after you dock. Let us change ships as fast and as often as we want to though once in the hangar. I'm sure I remember hearing CCP saying they were going to implement this in Quantum Rise. Hull damage effects. The one arbitrarily (and sometimes very curiously) placed exhaust plume isn't enough. More and more damage should become evident at various increments of hull HP reduction. Propulsion effects. The same thing for ABs and MWDs is lame. Both should be changed from merely amplifying the brightness of the standard trails. For that matter, ships with overdrive injectors should also have modified trails. WCSs. Why don't they cancel the MWD-killing effects of short scrams? That alone would elevate them from newb tool to valid PvP module for certain ship types and setups. There'd be some balancing to do of course, like one WCS shouldn't counteract the effects of half a dozen guys all short scramming you for example. Meta 4 > T2 in effect strength. I've no problem with meta 4 being functionally better for certain fits than T2 at all. There should be that balance. But there are some modules where meta 4 literally has no downside compared to the T2 variant (armor plates hello.) Plate 2's should grant more HP than RRTs, at the expense of having higher fitting requirements. Pirate faction ships. Some are clearly not designed for T2 modules. Some (oftentimes the same ones) were neglected when the Sansha ships were boosted. I like the ideas behind all the different faction specialties, and I'm not saying I want those changed per se. A simple CPU and grid boost is all that I want... err, actually no I also want Mordu and EOM factions represented as well, since they would consist of the Minmatar/Caldari and Gallente/Amarr mixes that are currently missing from the pirate ship lineup. Since both are small factions, they probably deserve unique ship models as part of an incentive for people to run the missions. It's not like there isn't precedent for that. Do the Cruor and Ashimmu ever actually appear in belts (no.)
Salhauler	Posted - 2009.08.02 03:36:00 - [164] Learning skills since they are pointless and just waste time. I have no problem with the training times on actual skills that actually allow you more access to game and increase character performance.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.08.02 03:43:00 - [165] Originally by: Salhauler Learning skills since they are pointless and just waste time. I have no problem with the training times on actual skills that actually allow you more access to game and increase character performance. Which one's don't do this?
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2009.08.02 05:11:00 - [166] The chinese. Delenda est achura.
Root Canal	Posted - 2009.08.02 07:57:00 - [167] Bugs, the unsubbed training nerf, the compulsion to nerf anything that works, the bugs in the Eve launcher (locks up my PC for 30 seconds every time it crashes and dumps), the corp hangar access problem of POSs and Orcas, being unable to name a POS corp hangar, lack of sticky settings in starting research and manuf jobs, inability to distinguish BPOs from BPCs by icon, lack of real player-operated starbases, T2 not being in the Market, too many griefer psychos in the game, CCP lies and arrogance.
Root Canal	Posted - 2009.08.02 08:01:00 - [168] Originally by: Karentaki Anyone crying about PVP in Eve (a PVP game). Nonsense. If Eve were truly just a PvP game there would be no Market, no manufacturing, no research, no trading. Eve is so much richer than mere PvP. The ppl who only do PvP miss out on most of what Eve has to offer. And there isn't even much true PvP at that... it's mostly one-sided ambush and assassination. Most who claim to be PvPers are just griefing cowards.
Frug Repo Industries	Posted - 2009.08.02 09:19:00 - [169] Bugs. This game has always been and probably will always be the buggiest game I have ever wasted my time with. From an overview that still **s up and displays random , to a garbled sound engine that half the userbase turns off because it's broken, to UI windows that stick and unstick and move around with minds of their own, this game is a **storm of bugs. Mind you I still like it. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor
Tommy Johnson	Posted - 2009.08.04 16:06:00 - [170] Edited by: Tommy Johnson on 04/08/2009 16:07:22 Originally by: Haradgrim I hate the fact that lvl 4s provide such an easy income to empire carebears (providing them with no reason to go to 0.0, if it was possible to make more money despite dying more often, people would move), I also hate that you can salvage said missions with literally zero risk, nothing should be zero risk in EVE and the ease of the profession is devaluing more important ones such as mining or ratting in 0.0 (one provides raw materials for the market which if there is an influx, profit margins rise temporarily, 0.0 ratters provide targets for pvp) Definitely this. It's not very "free market economics" but government (CCP) should intervene somehow to get the price of salvage down. Burned Logic Circuits alone can keep a player with no skills very rich relatively at lower levels. And yet the markup on rigs is tiny compared to the salvage. Wtf? How on earth did something that is so almost freely available become so high priced? The font is too small too. And the sound is broken. It's always been broken. Jesus. And there's no antialiasing without fudging it. Bah.

Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.04 16:23:00 - [171] Between Titans Online and POS warfare, this game suck balls these days. Only CarebearRus have any fun playing it these days.
Grytok Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.08.04 16:35:00 - [172] Originally by: Root Canal Originally by: Karentaki Anyone crying about PVP in Eve (a PVP game). Nonsense. If Eve were truly just a PvP game there would be no Market, no manufacturing, no research, no trading. Eve is so much richer than mere PvP. The ppl who only do PvP miss out on most of what Eve has to offer. And there isn't even much true PvP at that... it's mostly one-sided ambush and assassination. Most who claim to be PvPers are just griefing cowards. WTS: Clue The market itself is PvP if you didn't notice yet.
DigitalCommunist November Corporation	Posted - 2009.08.04 16:38:00 - [173] The fact that most of its subscriber base is playing in a high sec theme park, rather than a low sec sandbox.
Ronos	Posted - 2009.08.04 17:05:00 - [174] Salvage thieves, and POS bashing... both suck equally.
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD	Posted - 2009.08.04 17:42:00 - [175] - Attribute implants, they make you chose between extra attributes or PvP if they are an investment. Jump clones remove this partially but you still face the decision between PVP or faster skill learning. I chose the second. - Missions Time (they take to long. Reduce reward and shorten them. Or make the npcs more powerful and reduce their numbers so they feel more like fighting badass mother **ers like in PVP. - Mission loot. Stop dropping that just ends up over flooding every market in the galaxy. - Microminers, spammers and people that buy isk. Stop buying isk and they'll go away. **ers. - Mining. Still boring as hell and useless. Make it easy to mine veld or something so the newbies can do it and have it require scanning and probing to find dynamic moving belts. Easier to find static belts with better ore the lower sec you go. - The UI. :( -I'm a carebear and I hate it. Bought +5's a while ago and now I can't wait till I make more with trading to fund myself the loss of +5's when I pvp. ___ Space for Rent, free beer for signature, preferably with colours! (no pink)
Joseph Dreadloch Out For Blood	Posted - 2009.08.04 18:30:00 - [176] Local
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.08.04 18:35:00 - [177] Originally by: Discrodia Just randomly wondering, since it seems everyone has an opinion on what's the worst thing in EVE. Personally I hate the sov mechanic, since it basically means the only people with territory are the ones with massive capship fleets. Runs to the bunker and hopes it can withstand a direct napalmnuke strike The isk grind.
ExChange	Posted - 2009.08.04 18:41:00 - [178] that the stars twinkle
Aniyan Amarr Frimosa Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.04 19:07:00 - [179] Edited by: Aniyan on 04/08/2009 19:09:46 -Only being able to train one character per account at a time. In this way, CCP kind of forces you to pay for another account. It doesn't make sense that we're allowed to have up to three characters per account, but not allowed to train more than one at a time. -Having to wait 30 seconds to change ships and to redock at a station if you forgot something, especially when there's a hostile or two flashing red right outside. Not to mention how close you have to be to dock, which means "setting course to docking perimeter" again. -How level 3 and 4 missions make the game lag for me. -The socket randomly deciding to close. -The slowness of Auto piloting. -Skills that take longer than a week to train. -How when you tell it to warp the fleet, the fleet doesn't always warp. -How hot my laptop gets. -How CCP tends to "favor" the Caldari race. -The ridiculously high standing needed to set up a POS in high sec and to install a jump clone. Honestly, I could go on for days, but I'd never dream of quitting EVE.
Alpha Prime Destructive Influence	Posted - 2009.08.04 19:12:00 - [180] 1) That CCP fails year after year to FIX THE POS SPAMMING. 2) That CCP failed miserably with Titans. 3) That CCP lacks balls to bann g00ns from CAOD. 4) That CCP were more concerned with looking good, then doing the right thing. Oveur 2006: We're going to make blobwarfare less effective. Oveur 2008: We're installing better code so players can bring bigger blobs. 2009. EVE-Online changes name to NAP-Online



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