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This whole Ally system seems borked allready.

CCP should have never made it so that a defender allaince can ask multiple corps/ allainces
for help and why ?

instead of boosting the Merc market you just destroyed it completely because there are allready
a **** ton of corps and allaince that just ally up with everyone for having more targets.
Making it harder to actually ask a price for being someones ally for a merc.

Same goes with the wars for big allainces in nullsec.

for a quick example: Against All Authorities wardecced Pandemic Legion.
Now because of the higher wardec costs all the high sec pvp allainces and corporations are all
offering to be an ally for PL like Flies on a big fat pile of **** just so they can have these free wars.

So within a week now all the big null sec allainces have discoverd that its actually not a great idea to
officially wardec a other null sec allainces because of this chaining of allies.
leaving your fantastic features made to get a better overall look at the warstats left in the totall dark once again
and you all did it yourself by instead of leaving that number 1 ally and make limitles.
Offcourse this is my personal view but didn't CCP see this comming ?

How do others think about the new wardec system ? ( would be nice if some guys from Merc allainces could give there opinion )

We told them this would happen ... and they didn't listen.

Nobody is forcing Pandemic Legion to seek allies.
Nobody is forcing Pandemic Legion to accept ally requests.

Working as intended.

"Mercs" complaining about the 50m war declaration increase. "Mercs" then complain about getting free wars on other terrible primordial highsec dwellers who think that their army of hulks and level four mission-running ravens can blot out the sun. Complaining about more targets is literally the most ******** thing I've seen since Darius III's CSM thread(s). How more barely-combat-capable targets is a bad thing, I do not know. My alt is having a hilarious time blowing up "allied" orca's and mining barges/exhumers.

CCP have made concerted efforts so they look like they listen to the players, they even made the CSM with 14 players, 2 of which represent and care about the majority of players.

They post on these forums regularly telling us how it will be, and criticise or ignore objectors, and generally keeping us informed of who the boss is.

How is that now players can see through their mask...

I suppose that if CCP would add a big red button to the UI that allowed you to instantly destroy the ship of the player you're targeting, if you were the defending party in a war with that player's corporation, you wouldn't be forced to use it. But how many people wouldn't?


Before the changes, there was an actual mercenary market where people could hire mercenaries by reputation, and mercenaries actually got paid for their work. What we have now is a bunch of privateer-style groups doing the same for free. So point 1 is that there is no more mercenary work, because mercenaries get paid. Point 2 is that this will result in many less outgoing wars. Sure, the more skilled players will be able to evade the allies while achieving their goals, but the average corporation declaring upon another will get absolutely stomped because the defenders will bring in at least a few hundred people by clicking a single button.


In my many years here, I can say that this has been one of their worst gameplay decisions ever made.

Nobody is forcing Pandemic Legion to seek allies.
Nobody is forcing Pandemic Legion to accept ally requests.

Working as intended.

Only part that needs a real fix right now is not locking allies for the entire duration of a war.

How is it "sandbox?" I fail to see how it can be "sandbox," unless your definition of sandbox is having all the adults on the playground beat the living **** out of the kid who knocked down another kid's sandcastle.

Look, I'm all for the "if you wardec someone, you better be prepared to fight" ideology. But this is simply absurd. It removes all incentive for declaring war against someone, because no matter how much you like pvp, and no matter how fearless you are, having the enemy get infinite allies is just stupid. No amount of ridicule and chicken-calling is going to get me to engage three hundred people out of principle.

In my many years here, I can say that this has been one of their worst gameplay decisions ever made.

Before the changes, there was an actual mercenary market where people could hire mercenaries by reputation, and mercenaries actually got paid for their work. What we have now is a bunch of privateer-style groups doing the same for free. So point 1 is that there is no more mercenary work, because mercenaries get paid. Point 2 is that this will result in many less outgoing wars. Sure, the more skilled players will be able to evade the allies while achieving their goals, but the average corporation declaring upon another will get absolutely stomped because the defenders will bring in at least a few hundred people by clicking a single button.

I would have thought that you'd have to wait a while before you can see which corps are good in the ally system. Of course it's going to get a bit weird in the first few weeks. When it settles down the good merc corps will have good records. The dodgy corps you'll be able to see their bad record of helping and you wont pay their fee.

If it doesn't - Force a blue +10 standings on allies when accepted by a wardec'd corp.

+10 = Awoxer. Can't trust your allies = hire mercs.

It works fine.
If you want a powerful ally that will actually hunt and destroy the target effectively, pay for it like you would before.

So within a week now all the big null sec allainces have discoverd that its actually not a great idea to
officially wardec a other null sec allainces because of this chaining of allies.

It works fine.

If you want random scrubs helping you (and everyone else) at the same time, accept the free offers.

If you want a powerful ally that will actually hunt and destroy the target effectively, pay for it like you would before.

What?

instead of boosting the Merc market you just destroyed it completely because there are allready
a **** ton of corps and allaince that just ally up with everyone for having more targets.
Making it harder to actually ask a price for being someones ally for a merc.

Same goes with the wars for big allainces in nullsec.

for a quick example: Against All Authorities wardecced Pandemic Legion.
Now because of the higher wardec costs all the high sec pvp allainces and corporations are all
offering to be an ally for PL like Flies on a big fat pile of **** just so they can have these free wars.

but didn't CCP see this comming ?
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