Question is wrong, why we need 0.0 is proper question.

just a simple question: why the biggest trade hub is Jita and not some ass of 0.0 space like 1A8-?
I'm pretty sure if you try to answer this question you will understand what high-sec is needed for.

Why, that is what CCP wants, ruthless PVP. What would harbor that more than making every system null sec.

0t would prevent mining, carebears and whining.

Everything people ***** about.

I gotta say, all else being equal, when I think about what the trade hubs in a fully 0.0 game would be like I get pretty engorged. The funny thing is the incentives for creating a secure free trade zone would be enough that the biggest power players would probably be nrds.

Unfortunately the game would die without a hisec for beginners and casuals.

just a simple question: why the biggest trade hub is Jita and not some ass of 0.0 space like 1A8-?
I'm pretty sure if you try to answer this question you will understand what high-sec is needed for.

CCP: what did you invision high sec to be? What do you see it being now? Could we let the cat out of the bag already and let our new subs know that high sec isnt the PvE "realm" and losing your beloved mining barge isn't an accident but rather the logical finale or the sum of all of your actions which you've amounted to?

High security space (also referred to as Highsec and High-Sec) is systems with a security rating of 1.0 down to 0.5. These systems are policed by CONCORD which awards some safety from pirates. While CONCORD does not prevent acts of piracy in high security space, they will quickly respond to such acts and punish the perpetrator. In many cases the response time is fast enough to save the victim from destruction. They will also punish the act by adjusting the security rating according to how high the security in the system is, the higher the system, the higher the penalty.

Unfortunately the game would die without a hisec for beginners and casuals.

Has CCP ever advertised high-sec as a PVE realm?

For instance, here is the description currently on Evelopedia:

Seems pretty level-headed and very careful about its use of the word safety. I don't see where this would give anyone the idea that they are immune from trouble in high-sec and I don't recall CCP making statements inconsistent with this.

Has CCP ever advertised high-sec as a PVE realm?

For instance, here is the description currently on Evelopedia:

Seems pretty level-headed and very careful about its use of the word safety. I don't see where this would give anyone the idea that they are immune from trouble in high-sec and I don't recall CCP making statements inconsistent with this.

Do we really need high sec at all?

Correct me if i misunderstood but are you saing that the excisting playerbase that knows and understands the "harshness" of the Eve universe is now matter how hardened and glorious in its conquests is in the end dependent on fresh meat to keep paying for the servers and staff and thus it needs to lure and bait only to then crush and discard?

I don't judge, i am simply curious.

Is high sec then simply the boot-camp? The grinder that eventually weeds out the weak?

I'm sorry but that isn't saying much as it does not reflect reality at all. Some poor bastard is writing about being ganked repeatedly and losing his hard-earned stuff and the fact that he clearly does not give a crap about the gankers losing their galss cannons to concord and so on and so fourth. Almost everyone posting about their losses is under the impression that high sec means "occasional" encounters and "occasional" losses and that high sec "discourages" pirates and gankers. Wrong.

As we all know and see the losses can be made "systemic" and that "safe" activities can be disrupted for significant periods of time and in fact given the will even permanently. It is wonderful that concord "polices" high sec but when was the new player told that concord can be rendered useless?

My qustion is valid: what is the point of high sec? To create a false sense of safety so that new players (except for the ones that quit right away) get a chance (not a guaranteed chance mind you) to maybe possibly "graduate" and stay thus continuing to support the game via monthly sub contributions?

I'm sorry but that isn't saying much as it does not reflect reality at all. Some poor bastard is writing about being ganked repeatedly and losing his hard-earned stuff and the fact that he clearly does not give a crap about the gankers losing their galss cannons to concord and so on and so fourth. Almost everyone posting about their losses is under the impression that high sec means "occasional" encounters and "occasional" losses and that high sec "discourages" pirates and gankers. Wrong. As we all know and see the losses can be made "systemic" and that "safe" activities can be disrupted for significant periods of time and in fact given the will even permanently. It is wonderful that concord "polices" high sec but when was the new player told that concord can be rendered useless?

No wall of text here, just a simple question. A clear one sentence reply would benice.

Edit: Since i've gotten a few replies suggesting that this is a thread about how safe high sec needs to be... let me add the following to my original question: Do we really need high sec at all?

Hell no, we can just toss the new players into null.

I know the developers won't mind not being paid.

Looks like we all agree on what high sec is at this moment. Now if i may throw in my 2 cents, i suggest that the following is done.

Your idea is ******, and nobody cares.

Thats all.

Hi. I just had my 57th birthday. Thanks. I've been playing "Chew The Opposition Into Little Pieces" for more than forty years. I'm a chess master - basketball player for 17 years, football for 12, baseball for 20. I can roast you in bridge, spades, gin rummy, MONOPOLY, double-board Risk. In fact, I've spent my entire life in unbridled competition with one thought in mind, "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing.

You might imagine with so much win/loss, reams of scores, several major INJURIES, my adrenalin pumping, stick it to the enemy days of glory are about over. I've had my run. However, playing isn't. Playing is good for the mind. Einstein said intelligent people need to play. When I found EVE Online I found something where I can make a contribution and let the other folks have their time with going for each other's throats.

It just so happens, I can do my bit to contribute in high sec. I don't pick high sec cause it's safe. I pick it cause it's practical. I get what I'm doing done there, so there's where I do it. What I don't get is, why are there people who want things all their own way to such an extreme that they'd contort this sandbox into their own personal, custom made, suit only me environment and tell everybody else to just go get lost?

I shall not humble myself to such selfish people. The PvP end of this game has nothing in it to match the RL PvP I've done in four decades (and I've got the scars to prove it), so making some claim the world revolves around this handful of folks (to me) is no more than average doo doo ka ka.

So I ask, "What is the point of your question, and who are "you" to ask?"

Interesting, but define cost please.