Because the game is not just about PVP.

and before some idiot comes on to say it is.

Mining, manufacturing, research , production, trading etc

Because the game is not just about PVP.

and before some idiot comes on to say it is.

Mining, manufacturing, research , production, trading etc

Tal

SoGǪ to disprove that it's all about PvP, you list a number of PvP activities?

Idgi.

-2 corps mining in same belt after the same thing, PVP!
-2 people manufacturing ame thing to sell in same region... PVP!
-Research: researching things to make manufacturing cost less and to make more items faster than the other guy, PVP!
-production = manufacturing
- Trading... lol yeah, no PVP there at all!

F*ck off troll you know what ppl are talking about when they say PVP 99% of the time.

Tal

The point of high sec is to give the illusion of security. Why do you think people buy insurance? (ingame and RL)

Only read the op. hi sec should be a little safezone for the noobs, however hisec in its current state does not fit in with the type of game eve is. IMO hisec should be removed entirely except for a few starter systems. There is no reason for it other than to cater to the kiddies that won't htfu.

Awww...did the widdle bunny **** you off mate?

What?? those are activities that don't include shooting ppl on one big battlefield. Whats your logic ?

You are visibly upset.

My logic is that they're all PvP.

Mining GÇö competition for resources, player vs. player.
Manufacturing, research, production manufacturing again GÇö competition for slots/moons, a means to provide an edge inGǪ
Market GÇö competition for best purchase and/or sale price, player vs. player.

GǪnot to mention that all of the above only serves to feed the demand generated by combat and destruction.

At no point are you competing against any kind of GÇ£environmentGÇ£ or NPCs, only against other players.

There are exactly two things in EVE that are not subject to PvP: GÇ£accept missionGÇ¥ and GÇ£complete missionGÇ¥ (GÇ£abandon missionGÇ¥ might have counted if it weren't for PvP being such a common reason for people using that button).

No wall of text here, just a simple question. A clear one sentence reply would benice.

Edit: Since i've gotten a few replies suggesting that this is a thread about how safe high sec needs to be... let me add the following to my original question: Do we really need high sec at all or (as someone recently pointed out) what is the point of having multiple security levels when we can have just one big battlefield?

Manufacturing, research, production manufacturing again GÇö competition for slots/moons, a means to provide an edge inGǪ

Er TLDR sorry let me clarify for the trying to be clever combat PVP.

So creating your own POS (outside of wartime) and using your own slots isnt PVP then?

No wall of text here, just a simple question. A clear one sentence reply would benice.

Edit: Since i've gotten a few replies suggesting that this is a thread about how safe high sec needs to be... let me add the following to my original question: Do we really need high sec at all or (as someone recently pointed out) what is the point of having multiple security levels when we can have just one big battlefield?

Of course it is. Read what you quoted again.

it was a joke -.-

Er TLDR sorry let me clarify for the trying to be clever combat PVP.

But then you're not really answering the question. Combat is as much a part of highsec as of any of the other sec levels, and the activities you listed are as much a part of the other sec levels as they are of highsec.

You're making distinctions that aren't really there.

Of course it is. Read what you quoted again.

Er but I am. Non combat pvp (just to make you happy) is more likely to be taken up by peeps who aren't interest in combat pvp and would like to undock without getting shot at when they go about there daily non combat pvp activities

Er but I am. Non combat pvp (just to make you happy) is more likely to be taken up by peeps who aren't interest in combat pvp and would like to undock without getting shot at when they go about there daily non combat pvp activities.

Tal

My brother got blown up once in like 4 or 5 years playing. He was in a low sec system. He ragequit and to this day, for him, EVE i a game full of gankers.



I was suicided once in hi-sec. I could only laugh that someone would blow up my barge, only to be blown up by concord immediatly after. I thought it was pretty silly. It was in fact the very first time I ever lost a ship.

The second time I lost a ship, was in null space. That was also the last time, but not the last time someone tried.
I don't do pvp, I've never fired a single shot at another person in fact. I often think about it, but then I'm like, meh, to many clickies.

The thing that bothers me most is that you people insist that carebears are being blown up constantly; all over hi-sec. As if CCP doesn't have data to the contrary, and I'm confident that it is in fact contrary. Or that some of you will constantly harp on the, "they need to change it or everyone will leave!!"

Games been this way for 9 years.
Stop being liars. No one likes liars.

High-Sec is for people like me that enjoy EVE and want to have fun without the need to constantly buy more ships, fits, clones and implants. Some people want to play casually and then when they have the isk and the mood sets in they leave high-sec for awhile to have some more serious fun. High-sec is neccecary because it provides an environment for people who aren't juiced up on amphetamines, hyper-vigilant and constantly checking the D-scan to make sure nobody is coming for them.

While I agree with you.

I think you'd be better off picking up a hooker. I won't tell you to /wrist or anything like that. To be honest, I'm going to kill myself instead. Good luck in life, just know you have blood on your hands.

Er what. Not sure why quoting me but a couple of things.

1 No the game has changed a lot in 9 years
2 Good for you but this thread isn't about you
3 WTF are you talking about ?

Tal

Yes I know, I said a couple and mentioned a few


Tal