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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: GAJY They say what consoles want is an FPS but frigging PC is the home of the FPS and they play better on the PC. Also they're connecting the two well PC MMO players who are tired of WoW and don't want to play a game where you're a ship, they would play an MMO FPS on their PC. I know I'd play it on my PC.
stupid how the treat their PC fans as second place.
You know, cause Eve is for consoles only. ________________________________________________
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Zey Nadar
Gallente The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Murk
Originally by: Zey Nadar Edited by: Zey Nadar on 18/08/2009 13:59:23 I think the ship in the sky thats glimpsed first at about 0:25 in the trailer resembles a Mega from underneath.. So I guess atmospheric flight might be coming.. (although its also shooting missiles, of all things)
This is an awesome concept, combining two worlds, and graphics looked nice even though I dont like FPS games as such.
Scary part is how MUCH the players in DUST are able to affect our sovereignty..
if u look closer it's actualy a gallente t3 ship.
mmm no, doesnt look like proteus at all..
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Hahaha from one of the most complex and inaccessible games to the most accessible and dumbed-down game genres. This is going to be a laugh.
I believe there is a saying: 'Something for everyone'
Seems to me if ccp are smart they will give a discount for having an eve account and dust account so alliance players can have more say in what happens on the dust side of the sov equation. Put in a few core members into the fps game and recruit from there. Now you have an army loyal to your eve corp who will now go and pester that damn annoying alliance the next region over.
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K'ashell K'aran
Soviet Canuckistan Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:05:00 -
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I am curious on whether the Market will be tied together...
Do DUST 514 players buy Planetary Vehicles/guns/ammo/etc. made/sold by the EvE Industrialists?
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Rovan Stargazer
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Hahaha from one of the most complex and inaccessible games to the most accessible and dumbed-down game genres. This is going to be a laugh.
Well when you look at it, ground troops never been to smart :D. So we will be the brains, while they shoot eachoder.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Rovan Stargazer
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Hahaha from one of the most complex and inaccessible games to the most accessible and dumbed-down game genres. This is going to be a laugh.
Well when you look at it, ground troops never been to smart :D. So we will be the brains, while they shoot eachoder.
It's evil and fits in so perfectly, I love CCP. ________________________________________________
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Zey Nadar
Gallente The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: m0jo The only thing that worries me about this game is CONSOLE. Like wtf , For real???. Come on CCP!!!!! I mean the concept of the game and how it will work with Eve is awesome but CONSOLE!?!?!?!?!? FFS. Do you realize how many 8 year olds are gonna buy that damn game?
And I get to shoot them with orbital bombardment? Count me in.
ps. Im a console player too. This hate on consoles is appalling.
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Agonizer42
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rovan Stargazer
Well when you look at it, ground troops never been to smart :D. So we will be the brains, while they shoot eachoder.
pretty much like starship troopers. only without planetary bombardement :D
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GodsWill
Amarr Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zey Nadar
Originally by: m0jo The only thing that worries me about this game is CONSOLE. Like wtf , For real???. Come on CCP!!!!! I mean the concept of the game and how it will work with Eve is awesome but CONSOLE!?!?!?!?!? FFS. Do you realize how many 8 year olds are gonna buy that damn game?
And I get to shoot them with orbital bombardment? Count me in.
ps. Im a console player too. This hate on consoles is appalling.
This. I used to play FPS's on PC, but on a console, although it takes some time getting used to the controls, it's so much more relaxing sitting in a couch with a gamepad. After an 8 hour days at work, sitting in a BS and POS-bashing for 3 hours is not the way to unwind. More like an hour or two of COD4/Bad company.
It would be nice if we could have it on PC as well, but maybe just fits so much better into the universe with completely different demographics playing EVE and DUST.
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Ritter Roland
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zey Nadar
ps. Im a console player too. This hate on consoles is appalling.
after thinking it through, its only logical that they are not going to release a pc based version of it.
The hacking and cheating would destroy the whole concept.
Plus it wouldnt be so easy to even out the advantage that pc players have with their mouse
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sigvald Gottschalk
Originally by: Jowen Datloran there to the sentiment that EVE is some kind of exclusive club for PC players only is far.
Actually, EVE is an exclusive club for EVE players, crazy concept eh?
This is going to be such a failure.
Yep, and I just made a new computer only for EVE, because on my other system the sound does not work :(
Either way, I am going to cancel my accounts and go back to Ryzom, cu later.
Cyberwiz aka CyberGh0st aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Favorites : DAoC-SI/SWG Pre CU-NGE/Ryzom Retired @ WoW/LOTRO/WAR/Planetside/Entropia/UO/Lineage/GW/EQ/Jumpgate/Dofus/AoC |
Evanglion
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Sigvald Gottschalk
Originally by: Jowen Datloran there to the sentiment that EVE is some kind of exclusive club for PC players only is far.
Actually, EVE is an exclusive club for EVE players, crazy concept eh?
This is going to be such a failure.
Yep, and I just made a new computer only for EVE, because on my other system the sound does not work :(
Either way, I am going to cancel my accounts and go back to Ryzom, cu later.
Can i have your stuff ?
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Stahlfalke
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:21:00 -
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an eve shooter for consoles? this blows.
i just hope that you dont have to rely on the dumb console crowd to do anything in 0.0 in eve.
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Ruby Khann
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Evanglion Can i have your stuff ?
Only if you get enough headshots in a row.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Evanglion
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Sigvald Gottschalk
Originally by: Jowen Datloran there to the sentiment that EVE is some kind of exclusive club for PC players only is far.
Actually, EVE is an exclusive club for EVE players, crazy concept eh?
This is going to be such a failure.
Yep, and I just made a new computer only for EVE, because on my other system the sound does not work :(
Either way, I am going to cancel my accounts and go back to Ryzom, cu later.
Can i have your stuff ?
Hehe, nah not yet, my main sub will run for another 3 months before it cancels, hopefully there is some better news by then. If not, then I will give my stuff to a RL friend :p ( if he does not quit as well )
Cyberwiz aka CyberGh0st aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Favorites : DAoC-SI/SWG Pre CU-NGE/Ryzom Retired @ WoW/LOTRO/WAR/Planetside/Entropia/UO/Lineage/GW/EQ/Jumpgate/Dofus/AoC |
Carcosa Hali
Order of Anarchy The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:27:00 -
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damn, now I have to get a 360 for the wife. She won't let it go, she can't let it go. She's freaking obsessed! Thanks, CCP.
But I could see this working magnificently well. Two separate games that interact constantly. The grunts target-paint a structure for an airstrike, we fire from orbit. Or breaching a planetary blockade to release dropships from low orbit, which the dusters pilot then to the surface..
MTAC's, toxic world ops, crap.. EVA suits? Station assaults? It has alot of potential. Plus since it's an entirely different game, EVE's updating won't take second place to it, nor vice-versa.
And particularly when alliances start recruiting high-ranked platoons to raid each others resources.. It's just brilliant!
Or.. so I hear. >_>
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlfalke an eve shooter for consoles? this blows.
i just hope that you dont have to rely on the dumb console crowd to do anything in 0.0 in eve.
You will, as they will influence 0.0 sovereignty, go watch the video at the OP here.
Cyberwiz aka CyberGh0st aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Favorites : DAoC-SI/SWG Pre CU-NGE/Ryzom Retired @ WoW/LOTRO/WAR/Planetside/Entropia/UO/Lineage/GW/EQ/Jumpgate/Dofus/AoC |
Ritter Roland
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: CyberGh0st
If not, then I will give my stuff to a RL friend :p ( if he does not quit as well )
his stuff, can i haz as well?
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Agonizer42
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Stahlfalke an eve shooter for consoles? this blows.
i just hope that you dont have to rely on the dumb console crowd to do anything in 0.0 in eve.
You will, as they will influence 0.0 sovereignty, go watch the video at the OP here.
ever played battlefield1942?
i think the amount of equipment and ressources each eve online alliance is going to dump into a dust battle will have the greatest impact on which side will win the dust battle.
and then, in return, winning the dust battle will help the 0.0 fleet fight.
thats how i understand it
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Cornaris
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Agonizer42
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Stahlfalke an eve shooter for consoles? this blows.
i just hope that you dont have to rely on the dumb console crowd to do anything in 0.0 in eve.
You will, as they will influence 0.0 sovereignty, go watch the video at the OP here.
ever played battlefield1942?
i think the amount of equipment and ressources each eve online alliance is going to dump into a dust battle will have the greatest impact on which side will win the dust battle.
and then, in return, winning the dust battle will help the 0.0 fleet fight.
thats how i understand it
This 110%
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Onyx Asablot
The Vicious Circle
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Onyx Asablot on 18/08/2009 15:34:54 IMO...
1) Awesome idea. I do want an in depth planetside like epic tactical shooter for EvE, very very much
2) Consoles, terrible controllers for FPS with slow treacle like turning ability
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:34:00 -
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Just throwing an idea out there I have no evidence to back it up.
Maybe the reason they haven't announced a PC version of DUST is that the PC version of DUST will be included in EVE. Maybe as an optional download.
I can imagine DUST being the FPS and console only and EVE being internet spaceships with the option of FPS.
Add Eve Voice between the games and the ability to contribute directly to the planetside battle from your ship and things get interesting.
As to effecting sov, the whole system is changing soon. I personally hope it gets much harder to lock down huge chunks of 0.0 so that Alliances have to actually do something more than pos spam with cyno jamming to hold it. Most of the sov space I fly through is empty with maybe 5-10 people in an outpost system with Sov holding alliances so bored with the lack of action due to their NAPs that they are blobbing in lowsec instead
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MaxPower 519
Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:37:00 -
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If CCP thinks that console gamers will pay a monthly fee to play a FPS they are out of their minds!! this smells like epic fail
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: MaxPower 519 If CCP thinks that console gamers will pay a monthly fee to play a FPS they are out of their minds!! this smells like epic fail
Yeah I have to agree with this. The console crowd is different. I assume that if you play a console game, you just want to pop in the dvd and play for an hour or so, without too much hassle. Actually that is why I considered to buy one.
So that's why I asked earlier: will there be enough interest in this game ?
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Cornaris
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: MaxPower 519 If CCP thinks that console gamers will pay a monthly fee to play a FPS they are out of their minds!! this smells like epic fail
They allready do pay to play FPS's on xboxlive
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Bodhidauruma
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlfalke i just hope that you dont have to rely on the dumb console crowd to do anything in 0.0 in eve.
Hope fail:
Currently, player alliance sovereignty (regional control) is tied to maintaining numerous player-owned structures across different solar systems to establish a territory as belonging to that alliance, and as shown on the game's star map. Since DUST 514 is set in the same galaxy as the core MMO, with the same planets, EVE players will have the option of contracting DUST (player) mercenaries to gain control of planets.
Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region."
He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
http://www.massively.com/2009/08/18/ccp-games-reveals-new-eve-online-console-mmo-dust-514/#continued
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Eliza Farcaster
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: MaxPower 519 If CCP thinks that console gamers will pay a monthly fee to play a FPS they are out of their minds!! this smells like epic fail
Agreed, but I doubt they'll try to charge them.
For all those who don't want to buy a console to play this, don't. You aren't the target audience for this product. Keep enjoying Eve online, and if you dont like the way it works out, quit and do something else. Eve doesnt owe you a gaming life forever, if you don't like the changes deal with it.
Personally I'm actually really excited to see a new angle on eve, even if I don't buy a copy of the game for my 360.
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MaxPower 519
Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Eliza Farcaster
Originally by: MaxPower 519 If CCP thinks that console gamers will pay a monthly fee to play a FPS they are out of their minds!! this smells like epic fail
Agreed, but I doubt they'll try to charge them.
You don't think there will be a monthly fee? Well that would be nice.
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Synex
Gallente Oursulaert Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:01:00 -
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Sorry if i'm a fanboi but i think that the idea behind it is revolutionary. CCP never fail to amaze me with the scope of vision that they have.
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Clansworth
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:01:00 -
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Just getting in on this news... Actually, I'm really excited about this. Not personally all that excited about the DUST game itself, as I'm not a console guy, nor an FPS guy. However, I am VERY excited about the prospects this has for coloring in the missing parts of the EvE universe. And honestly, the prospects of hiring other players to conquer worlds for your wars just might get me interested in Alliance warfare once again.
While this appears to be of the massive wartime model, I'd love to see some sort of smaller skirmish or even special ops style single objective based 'mission' that could be created as well. It would be great to be able to:
in EvE: Cloak into enemy territory. in EvE: Drop special ops package on enemy controlled planet. in EvE: Set up sabotage objective for special ops unit. in DusT: View available missions (from preferred alliance). in DusT: Accept covert sabotage mission from fleet buddies. in DusT: Sneak/Fight way to objective, set explosives, run/clone jump away. in EvE: Reep benefits of enemy production being impeded.
I think this could bring more small scale operations into DusT that would allow more opportunities for short sit-down time play, while still having a significant effect on the universe as a whole.
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