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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:17:00 -
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Awesome. No other word for it.
Keep doing it, though. Over and over and over.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Money Liberation Services Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:18:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Lialem
Originally by: Kessiaan
I think this explains why fuel prices are going up - macros / RMT monkeys are/were a huge source of isotopes.
I hate RMT as much as the next guy, but I think it would be wise on CCP's part to look into the areas of the game that were heavily macro'd (such as the aforementioned ice mining) and find ways to make them more interesting so more people will do it legit.
Oh yeah because right now that every nooby alliance leader just spams pos for his alliance JUST BECAUSE FUELS ARE CHEAP is better? Some things SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND SHOULD BE EXPENSIVE cause that way some problems would never have become so big that need a game balancing to fix when the sole reason of them is isk sellers.
That's a mighty pathetic excuse for not reworking mechanics that are so incredibly boring that they are only bearable by using, or, well, being a macro...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kessiaan
I think this explains why fuel prices are going up - macros / RMT monkeys are/were a huge source of isotopes.
I hate RMT as much as the next guy, but I think it would be wise on CCP's part to look into the areas of the game that were heavily macro'd (such as the aforementioned ice mining) and find ways to make them more interesting so more people will do it legit.
*dusts off the Mackinaw*
well doubling the reward is always inherently interesting
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: GM Grimmi
Aside from a few implants, the in-game market has been remarkably unaffected by all this.
Well, some parts of the market were affected. I would LOVE to read from our good Dr.E. about that in the next QEN maybe.
Look at Tritanium prices for example. Trit crashed! Why? I would think it would skyrocket though.
Isoptope prices pretty much increased a lot, but that was to be expected with wiping out the macros.
Most high-end mineral production come from dronespace. IRC/ED getting kicked out of there during June probably accounts for the drop in supply = rise in price of high ends.
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Thanasis Veggos
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:33:00 -
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Hello
I think CCP realises that the old players just love eve and show this with monthy support of real hard cash, in what is hard time for hard cash for all of us. I got a point to make about this. Well the following three: 
1: One a sugestion, suspend the ability to trial accounts players to talk to others in local or via mail or else with anyone out of school chanels. If the isk sellers have to pay real money accounts to spam it will hurt them like hell.
2: Old players, trusted players on a tight leash should-could get the posibility (not with petition) to immediately ban an isk seller. If not ban at least by right clicking his post or mail or whatever directly link them to a GM. If such an action would be paidback (lets assume in LP) it would create an ongoing incentive.
3: Macro Miners, have a concord or customs ship fly to belts and project a series of numbers or letters on the player, the player should than type in the number or he would get after a few minutes striped from ore and ship. I suggest that there should be a time interval of two cycles so that anyone being afk has the chance to see what happened. If mining would be more interactive like scanning is it would automaticaly eliminate the macros i think.
Anyway, myself and others would not reply on this topic if we would not love eve. Thanks for your care and the great game you provide for us. We love you and we got the cash to prove it over and over for many more years.
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newdok
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:36:00 -
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Good job ;) Ever since noticing asteroids in belts again I've been wondering about this. Also nice to know that isk spamming petitions probably get read...
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gabranth 99
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: gabranth 99 on 17/08/2009 19:02:35
i miss the 3 macro miners and 1 hauler groups that all stayed in smartbomb range 
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:06:00 -
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now if your serious about this could you divert some of that effort to cleaning up the bloody forums, I mean honestly the Keylogers are not even trying to hide by posting in legit threads with there links.
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Vyktor Abyss
Gallente
The Abyss Corporation
Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:22:00 -
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Good blog.
I hope you keep on top of them when they adapt like the borg and find the next new way to sour your milk.
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DaemonBarber
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:24:00 -
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Great blog - awesome to see the impact you're having on RMT.
Of course, I suspect that this is also the reason for the dramatic increase in hacked accounts. If they can't make their own isk, they have to get it from somewhere.
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Huberek Morchu
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Muffoon
Originally by: Huberek Morchu
He is in a player corp, much bigger than mine, so I dont want a wardec to make it worse. Im considering using an alt to wardec or gank him. I just shouldnt have to. I should be able to report it, and CCP should investigate and ban.
How do you know he's a macroer? Sounds like you're assuming alot, and you can't just assume things when you're talking about banning accounts.
Its not my first macro, and youll notice I said they should investigate, not just ban. CCP can better tell how long a person is on, and what theyre doing by logs. I simply observe and test. This person is simply too robotic to be a player. A lone hulk, mining till full, the docking, warping back ot a different belt, mining till full, then docking. On virtually all the time, been doing this for months. No other activity. I even saw their corp members in another belt mining with 2 retrievers and a hauler, yet this guy was still mining and docking. That makes no sense. Sure, you can come up with more excuses, but if it quacks like a duck...
Next step will be to bump them or gank them and see if they follow the same pattern.
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Cail Fortestan
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:35:00 -
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Ace.
Can you now tackle the RMT isk traders who spam local chat in most of the trading hubs ?
They are pretty easy to spot, posting the same old disguised URLs using a Macro.
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Ockedof Ukack
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Huberek Morchu
Originally by: Sir Muffoon
Originally by: Huberek Morchu
He is in a player corp, much bigger than mine, so I dont want a wardec to make it worse. Im considering using an alt to wardec or gank him. I just shouldnt have to. I should be able to report it, and CCP should investigate and ban.
How do you know he's a macroer? Sounds like you're assuming alot, and you can't just assume things when you're talking about banning accounts.
Its not my first macro, and youll notice I said they should investigate, not just ban. CCP can better tell how long a person is on, and what theyre doing by logs. I simply observe and test. This person is simply too robotic to be a player. A lone hulk, mining till full, the docking, warping back ot a different belt, mining till full, then docking. On virtually all the time, been doing this for months. No other activity. I even saw their corp members in another belt mining with 2 retrievers and a hauler, yet this guy was still mining and docking. That makes no sense. Sure, you can come up with more excuses, but if it quacks like a duck...
Next step will be to bump them or gank them and see if they follow the same pattern.
That sounds an awful lot like how I mine, but then again I have to deal with people who get thier kicks off of stealing my cans. so what if his corpmates were mining like that some people dont like to share thier profits with their corps so. based on the gank thing It sounds like your the type of person that makes it so I actually have to drop off each load of ore instead of jetcanning. however the on all the time thing thats a whole nother matter. Then again I am on 8-16 hours a day
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:49:00 -
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Keep up the rage
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Max Torps
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:52:00 -
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Absolutely brilliant. Publishing those graphs really demonstrates the effect RMT was having on the game. It's fantastic that you guys are cracking down on those people. Nice.
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar
The Salvaged
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:03:00 -
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RAGE it up CCP! Fantastic job at cleaning up this game. We also acknowledge your small sacrifice in this cleanup: 9000 accounts x $15/mo = $135,000/mo, which is really no small sacrifice, so thanks a ton.
The market definitely has changed since these events. As others have mentioned, mineral prices are still going through flux as the supply patterns have altered greatly. Mining is slowly becoming a viable occupation again for standard players, and discerning mathematical players will understand the affects on values of the various ores. And I wish you woulda told me the prices of +3/+4 implants would increase so much, woulda made a pretty penny off that one haha  .
All-in-all, fantastic job, and thanks so much. I look forward to continued enjoyment of this game by means of your hard work in scrubbing RMT punks from the face of Eve.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas
now if your serious about this could you divert some of that effort to cleaning up the bloody forums, I mean honestly the Keylogers are not even trying to hide by posting in legit threads with there links.
taking bets that the key loggers and RMT guys are one and the same.
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:08:00 -
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If you do encounter any groups you believe to be involved in RMT or macro use, please make sure you contact the GM team as soon as possible through the EULA & Terms of Service section of the petition system with any information you have.
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iudex
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:13:00 -
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Very nice blog, especially the graph with the implant was quite funny. In the last years there was a constant devaluation of LP and a price drops with implants. Everyone blamed increasing number of regular mission runners, it's interesting to see that a big part of them weren't that "regular".
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Aydjile
Amarr
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:31:00 -
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hey ccp. you might want to consider rewarding pilots for finding RMT bots.
some isks, ship or blueprint copy could open a new fraction of zealos headhunters in new eden.
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Paski
Malamutopian Research
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:38:00 -
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Petitioning them needs to be easier.
When I use the petition system to report isk spammers action is usually taken instantly. I mean, so fast that the isk spammers don't get another line of spam into chat. But I wonder why in a system of 200 people, or an NPC chat of 500, has everyone put up with it? Because it's hard to petition a name like e2erwfsda2309r0tfsdds. I use copy/paste but still most people don't care enough to learn the easiest way. If only there was a clickable option that allowed you to select the account by clicking it - or to select 'peition this account' somehow, I think more people would bother.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.17 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cinori Aluben
RAGE it up CCP! Fantastic job at cleaning up this game. We also acknowledge your small sacrifice in this cleanup: 9000 accounts x $15/mo = $135,000/mo, which is really no small sacrifice, so thanks a ton.
It's a sacrifice in the short term, perhaps, but it will pay off.
Also some RMT accounts are paid for with stolen credit cards, which dont make CCP any money at all (and in fact cost them quite a lot)
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VonCruix
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aydjile
hey ccp. you might want to consider rewarding pilots for finding RMT bots.
some isks, ship or blueprint copy could open a new fraction of zealos headhunters in new eden.
Could generate a lot of "noise" within their process.
No one wants a "witch hunt".
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Derus Grobb
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:42:00 -
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Brilliant, brilliant
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Star's Dust Industrie
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:43:00 -
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About macro scammers, you know, the one that Chribba logged for one day in Jita local...
Please plan something tbh.
Fetchez la vache !
moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
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BlondieBC
Minmatar
Galactic Exploration and Missions
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Morphisat
What exactly (well without too much details ;)) do these macroers do that strains the servers so much ? Sending a lot of data to the server ?
As a guess, they constantly work. Many players spend a lot of time afk'ing and sitting in station chatting.
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
About macro scammers, you know, the one that Chribba logged for one day in Jita local...
Please plan something tbh.
If you think someone is doing this, please file a petition reporting it. It will be looked into 
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.17 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: BlondieBC
Originally by: Morphisat
What exactly (well without too much details ;)) do these macroers do that strains the servers so much ? Sending a lot of data to the server ?
As a guess, they constantly work. Many players spend a lot of time afk'ing and sitting in station chatting.
most of the players spend allot of time disconnected
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.17 22:25:00 -
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Great blog, awesome work, keep it up!
p.s. So thats why the PCU hasn't peaked lately? :p
Cyberwiz aka CyberGh0st aka Mentakh
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R0ot
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.17 22:37:00 -
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Awesome work CCP! Although I did think you were talking about shadoo with the title "Unholy Rage". Keep up the banning of these ******s! 
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