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NimBetu Cayal
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:10:00 -
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How will this affect the game.
Vid Linky
Will this better or destroy the game EVE-Online??
Input please?
(please move the thread if i posted in the wrong place
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:40:00 -
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nice Halo inspired game! seem like fun! will it affect Eve gameplay?
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ark maphar
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:43:00 -
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if it does, it will only affect eve people that have consoles, no pc or mac version    
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:51:00 -
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Well the eve universe all fits together, so it will affect all even if you play it on consol, since its still just one universe...
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NimBetu Cayal
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:53:00 -
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The idea is the the battle on the planned. will dictate the Sov in EVE.
So if i get "my" tropes to control a planet. and they get enough planets under control in one solar system. i will get sov for my alliance.
Sp Pos's and Fleets will not be the only thing dictating who has sov in a solar system.
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:55:00 -
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For 0.0 and low sec right?
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NimBetu Cayal
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Maulkin For 0.0 and low sec right?
0.0 only i belive. Not NPC and Low-sec
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:57:00 -
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hm, interesting
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Total Disaster
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Total Disaster on 18/08/2009 13:58:43 so basically we can start dismantling all our POS because a FPS alliance of 13 years old hyperactive kiddos gonna own us all?
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Atropos Kahn
Caldari Solarflare Heavy Industries Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:59:00 -
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He said it will be just a COMPONENT of SOV... not SOV itself... I think this game is a fantastic idea...
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NimBetu Cayal
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Atropos Kahn He said it will be just a COMPONENT of SOV... not SOV itself... I think this game is a fantastic idea...
Correct. I'm not sure what i feel about it. It is an interesting idea from CCP. But will it ruin the efforts and how we like the game. Not sure.
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theZJ
Caldari Suicidal Trainingscamp
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:28:00 -
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Sometimes it is really interesting how different General Discussion is compared with Features and Ideas... when there is flame, here you only see skepticism... But hell, if they only would not make it console only I would buy it a million times. But seriously... this is the wrong way. I don't want to buy a console just in order to play that game, and I DONT want to be excluded from important aspects of gameplay and immersion.
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Tarnia Xavian
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:56:00 -
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There's no reason to think that the new sov and game mechanics won't require aspects available from both platforms. That is, a SOLELY console-based alliance will need help from a PC-based alliance/group in order to grow and prosper. This is good for the future of EvE if they can balance it. Based on their past work, though, CCP should be able to pull that off. GG CCP, and good luck with your efforts. I WANT to play EvE for another 5+ years.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:04:00 -
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No we as the godly space capsuleers we are direct thier poor little souls to die for us on the ground where we wont dirty our own hands in and if it all goes bad nuke it from orbit.
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Brolly
Caldari Caldari State Inc. Deathadder Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:25:00 -
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Can't wait to see what this will actually entail, it's amazing that so much can be said in general discussion, yet no actual substance or hardly anything with a touch of intelligence :'(
Anyhoo's, having an Xbox I think it's a great idea because
* I love the eve universe * My PC is great, but it's not comfortable and it's anti social * I get to explore eve in first person perspective * I can get involved with alliances without the tedium and gate camps
Downside
* Hope I don't have to pay another ú15 a month
Granted, there will be a lot of the young vocal minority, but look at General discussion and the goons, eve already has it's cesspools and it's player base is far from perfect and the most mature/intelligent of MMO's.
I wonder if alliances will hire soldiers, if that isk will be used for purchasing equipment. Dust could be quite an amazing piece of gaming history, I really look forward to seeing and hearing more.
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Grumples McGee
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:26:00 -
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I love it. They aren't looking for EVE players to quit and go to the console, they're looking to bring in a completely new audience in addition to the current EVE players.
Looks to me like POS will probably still have a major influence on sovereignty, while DUST involves something completely new: fighting over planets.
You know, those giant useless things every system already has.
I'd always hoped that they could somehow incorporate a planetary land war into the game, I just didn't imagine they ever actually would.
The only question I have is what happens when all the carebear 0.0 corps have so many people set to blue that no big SOV battles are even happening? What will the DUST players fight over if the EVE players are too busy mining tritanium and gatecamping to actually go fight real wars?
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Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:23:00 -
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I fail to see how taking sovereignty out of our hands enhances our Eve experience. I need to see more details. I guessing this probably only affects factional warfare, but I have no basis for this, it's just pure speculation.
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Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:26:00 -
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I doubt the console side is going to have the largest percentage when it comes to determining the Sov of systems.
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:29:00 -
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Great idea. It brings another element to the game that should have been done a long time ago.Having it console base opens up the pc version to an entire new fanbase that will no doubt have bleedover. Not to mention the majority of us already have xbox's and ps3 already so it seems like a good move.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:31:00 -
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The only way it would work would be for each and every FPS map to be identical. All FPS games currently always end up being played on the "fun" maps so if say the planets in Stain are more fun to play than others what happens to everything outside Stain?
What I hope they do is let Eve decide sovereignty and perhaps let the FPS nooblets add flavour in the form of lower costs, longer range jump bridges etc.
Hopefully they will mesh entirely down the road so that you approach in ship and drop to surface using whatever ambulation thingie they come up with. Regardless, it will end up changing Eve as a space-opera game.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow J I fail to see how taking sovereignty out of our hands enhances our Eve experience. I need to see more details. I guessing this probably only affects factional warfare, but I have no basis for this, it's just pure speculation.
u worried?
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Zangert
Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:36:00 -
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Could be interesting, so many questions but at the least it could be a good ISK sink.
Wonder if cyno jamming will inhibit troop deployment
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zangert Could be interesting, so many questions but at the least it could be a good ISK sink.
Wonder if cyno jamming will inhibit troop deployment
Black Ops them in!!!!! 
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Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:41:00 -
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Sounds like a massive chance to grief if we can Nuke the Planet from Orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
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NimBetu Cayal
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dire Radiant Sounds like a massive chance to grief if we can Nuke the Planet from Orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
No.. The game play will be 100% seperated. Just the console game will send some info to the eve server. How controls wat panet and that will help determine who holds sov
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:46:00 -
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If the actions of an unrelated game affect the workings of this one, you're purely going to lose membership here. Will need to see how its implemented, but sounds like a great opportunity for CCP to really shoot themselves in the foot.
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Pasen Haas
Easter Corporation Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:46:00 -
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Sounds like a massive scam to squeeze more money out of 0.0 players. Anyone who holds sov or ever wants to will have to play this - and in a fight between 2 alliances, consider what would happen if one of them just pays mercs while the other both pays mercs and joins the FPS fight themselves. The big alliances will be forced to maintain a large portion of their membership's subscriptions to Dust so that they can keep control of their sovereign space, or else they risk losing it. Congratz, CCP, on this cynical ploy to make money. You do well.
Personally I hope this particular mechanic never sees the light of day.
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dire Radiant Sounds like a massive chance to grief if we can Nuke the Planet from Orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
The scope of interaction between space and planet is unknown. Perhaps a pos style defense since with "mods" etc can be installed. Would be epic to have two opposing sides meet at a planet with cap fleets. One side has the aid of plent defense the other escorting troop transports to the surface. This will either be a welp or change gaming forever.
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Zitus
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:53:00 -
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As some one who owns a console and also plays FPS games, this actually looks REALLY good. The visuals are stunning in the preview and if they pull it off right, it could be a sweet tie in. I think this is the first time in history that an online Console game interacted directly with an Online Computer game.
Its definitely an announcement that is going to shape the world of gaming.
My only concern is exactly this: Little Kids. The ones that are like 10, that have no friends, come home from school at 3 and play ALL NIGHT, are some how godly at FPS, but have high pitched voices that annoy the crap out of you, and you know that they're way too young to swear like they do.
THATS my only worry. 
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Pasen Haas
Easter Corporation Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:59:00 -
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I don't care about little kids at all. What I do care about is exactly how the soc mechanic will be affected. If we're all forced to buy this to defend or capture sov space, it'll be a travesty.
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