If you destroy someones material and the police know about it you will be locked up. Thats how a justice system works and thats how it should work in Eve. If you dont then Concord is just a joke.
This should equate to a high sec ganker being locked into low sec when he commits a crime - low sec becomes the prison.

Destroying a ship in high sec that costs less than 50 mill ISK you should be locked out of high sec for 24 hours.
100 mill - 48 hours
200 mill - 72 hours
300+ mill - 96 hours

Hello.

Happy to be of service. Considering how clueless you appear to be maybe I should considering tutoring you.

Staying aligned in a Exhumer is so going to work when you mine. And of course tanking a Hulk is really doable Wow, it's going to take another destroyer to kill it. What a difference.

Don't make yourself look even more stupid then you are.

/Mangold

EvE blows you up instead of Locking you up. Seems more severe to me.

I actually know what I'm talking about here, because I once was a miner. I also never lost an Exhumer. You can stay aligned at a mere 20-25% of your max speed. When random person in a destroyer appears on your overview, he or she can't get an immediate lock on you. In that time, you press the warp button & are gone before you get scramed. All the while, staying within range of whatever rock you're mining.

I understand that this may be too much effort for you though.

Nope. You just showed how little you know. It takes time to accelerate up to be able to warp.

I still call bullshit on your arguments.

Btw, nice killstats you have.

As long as suicide ganking is possible, the penalties will always be "too low."

25% to 75% takes about 4 seconds. You see a target appear on the overview from over 250km.

Thanks, I like losing ships on my alt :p

No.
The punishment does not fit the crime in that case because the criminal expects and doesnt care if he's blown up.

On a serious note. I actually think that ganking should be possible in high sec.

I do think that the security status drop should be much higher or that the time to increase your security status should be longer. It's way to easy to gank someone in high sec or in low sec and rat up the security status. Done it myself more times than I can remember.

25% to 75% takes about 4 seconds. You see a target appear on the overview from over 250km.

Thanks, I like losing ships on my alt :p

except I can still gank people even when -10, just takes a bit more work and synchronization to do so,

Many posts are appearing of late asking if the penalty for suicide-ganking is too low. From the gankees point of view, it probably is. They lost a ship. I will now put to you the other side of the argument.
Suicide-gankers blow people up for many reasons. It may be for profit, in response to a player event or in many cases, they do it simply because it's fun[ny]. Now lets talk about penalties.

The gankee loses a ship & it's mods, plus whatever else resides in the cargohold.
The ganker loses a ship & it's mods, whatever resides in the cargohold, sec status, gains a 15 minute GCC timer, can be shot by anyone for the duration & receives no insurance payout. Can you really say the penalties are too low?

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Oh really. Everytime some random muppet tries to say he knows his way around pvp and you check their pathetic kill stats they always post with an alt and have some pvp god main. Amazlingy enough that name is always secret.

Btw, here's a link for you. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sensor_Booster_II

Have fun.

You realize a lot of alliances forbit forum posting? And that forces a lot of peopel to post with their alts? Even if jsut to be sure to not slip and post on CAOD with wrong char that would get him in trouble?

Note the "Sometimes." The miners are whining that they want to escape risk at "All Times."

Bit of a difference.

Anyway, no the thing that you need an occasional break from is effort. It takes much less effort to kill miners than it does to force PvP. That's still not no effort, but it's less. It's the new version of gatecamping.

When an entire segment of Eve's population refuses obstinently to take up arms, being flagged for PVP by them in High Sec isn't really that much of a penalty. I mean what are they going to do?

I think we all know the answer to that.

In truth what you want a break from is risk.

There's a difference between suicide and getting a fun, satisfying fight.

What would you describe as "a fun, satisfying fight"?

I'm betting it involves a whole bunch of risk mitigation and that's where the effort lies.

Oh really. Everytime some random muppet tries to say he knows his way around pvp and you check their pathetic kill stats they always post with an alt and have some pvp god main. Amazlingy enough that name is always secret.

Btw, here's a link for you. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sensor_Booster_II

Have fun.

I don't know what risk mitigation means to you, but I lose ships at a pretty steady pace. That doesn't look like well mitigated risks to me.

Webs. 3 webs on each hulk webbing each other, aligned out to a SS at 75% max speed (should be abot 7m/s). Be sure to fleetwarp rather than warp individually.

Since you're actually trying, instead of simply whining for a ban on ebil people, I figure I'll give you a suggestion.

Webs. 3 webs on each hulk webbing each other, aligned out to a SS at 75% max speed (should be abot 7m/s). Be sure to fleetwarp rather than warp individually.

So this is the newest way to get people to do something they shouldn't and then get their Hulks destroyed by Concord?

Protip: players in the same corp can do anything they want to each other (unless its an npc corp).

For EVE to be fair anytime a ship is attacked in high sec the attacker should not be allowed to play for at least a half day or more.

The gankee loses a ship & it's mods, plus whatever else resides in the cargohold.
The ganker loses a ship & it's mods, whatever resides in the cargohold, sec status, gains a 15 minute GCC timer, can be shot by anyone for the duration & receives no insurance payout. Can you really say the penalties are too low?