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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:02:00 -
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Not sure which forum section this goes in but it pertain to EvE in one way, the Rokh... sorta
So I had this crazy idea some years back, "I wanna make a irl Rokh yacht. Thus began the plans for making blueprints, checking prices of steel and aluminum by the tonne, getting a quote for a C-105 gas turbine from the AMARC Tucson, AZ scrapyard for propulsion. All in all I think it will cost about $400,000.00 USD, Steel is about $240 per tonne and aluminum is around $1893 per tonne on yesterdays UK stock exchange.
I will save about 3-4m by not having the aesthetic features of most yachts like gold plated everything lol. the blue prints are being finalized right now, I'm using Auto-CAD to make them and another 3D imaging program. I'm technically a noob at this stuff, my family thinks I'm crazy, my grandpa is the only one that thinks it will float so long as I use a schooner type stabilizer fin on the bottom to minimize the chance of capsizing & using ballast tanks in between the outer 1/4" steel plating on the bottom and the inner aluminum infrastructure also while using steel for the initial frame and bulkheads.
The end game issue is money, as such I don't plan on this project being done for at least 10-15 years down the road from now as I'm the only one who will be working on it so far unless I find like minded people who wanna have a go at it ha ha but that is some what unlikely. But the Rokh is really a very simple design to work with, it is essentially a bunch of Right angles that make up a bulk of the ships design so I don't think it is impossible to build nor a waste of money really if it has a practical use.
Can people please give me idea/opinions? ~puts on flame ******ant suit~ ok I am also ready for flames.
Opinions are accepted by both players and CCP, who knows maybe some time down the road it could be used to make a voyage to EvE Fan fest assuming the game is still around in 10-15 years ha ha.
Thanks for your time.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:09:00 -
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It is the best, and also the worst idea I have ever heard 
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:23:00 -
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You're insane, but awesome insane.
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Fey Kamara
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:23:00 -
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 Originally by: ADMR Hikari
But the Rokh is really a very simple design to work with, it is essentially a bunch of Right angles that make up a bulk of the ships design
Your issue lies somewhere in this sentence.
Hint: There's a reason that yachts have smooth lines....
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Saartje Sarel
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:25:00 -
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Also erm, why not use GRP?
Save about, ooh, 300, 000 on your estimate.
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Kolatha
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:26:00 -
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I personally think a Drake would probably translate better to an irl yacht.
It would make for a great looking cat.
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Tamahra
Gallente
Danke fuer den Fisch
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
C-105 gas
where does one harvest that?
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quave
Caldari
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:32:00 -
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Insane! if you are going to through with it though, you may as well do it right, get yourself some of these
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:44:00 -
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Hah railguns... as for the C-105 gas turbine. It is a USAF aircraft engine, they are mothballed in great numbers in AZ. as for the drake yes it would work but I wanted something that would stand out.
Also about the smoothed lines, I'm aware that yachts have smooth curves so the underside is a bit more streamlined for efficiency but everything else top side really doesn't matter. I'm not looking to make a life sized MWD gunboat here. just a simple ship I can make into a home as well.
btw look at my in-game bio and the insane posts will go well with me.
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Ah Long
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
But the Rokh is really a very simple design to work with, it is essentially a bunch of Right angles that make up a bulk of the ships design so I don't think it is impossible to build nor a waste of money really if it has a practical use.
Confirming Fey's comment about how yachts kinda need to be hydrodynamic. Helps with moving through water.
However, the Rokh would lend itself well to a barge-type vessel, as would a Covetor, tbh. Might be an idea to buy an existing barge and dress it up as a Rokh or whatever.
Also, 60m is MASSIVE; I sail on a 60-footer and that is big enough as it is.
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Armored Core Inc.
The Council.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:48:00 -
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i think this is somewhere on the way to freaking awesome.
although i think id be more inclined to use an abaddon or armageddon design myself :D
actually, a tempest. it has sails
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
SoonÖ
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adfadfadfawe
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:51:00 -
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Before you sell the house, I think you would be a lot better off if you satisfy your curiosity with a scale model. A quick tour around the lake in a 10 ft jon boat with cardboard wings will discourage all but the most determined. I know the people behind that earthrace boat did something similar before building the full scale wedge-shaped craft.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:53:00 -
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If I was going to build a house/boat in the shape of a spaceship it would be Serenity.
Good luck!
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ah Long
Originally by: ADMR Hikari
But the Rokh is really a very simple design to work with, it is essentially a bunch of Right angles that make up a bulk of the ships design so I don't think it is impossible to build nor a waste of money really if it has a practical use.
Confirming Fey's comment about how yachts kinda need to be hydrodynamic. Helps with moving through water.
However, the Rokh would lend itself well to a barge-type vessel, as would a Covetor, tbh. Might be an idea to buy an existing barge and dress it up as a Rokh or whatever.
Also, 60m is MASSIVE; I sail on a 60-footer and that is big enough as it is.
Yes it is, 60m is basically 200ft which is just under half the size of most modern missile destroyers for size comparison the Japanese Kongo missile destroyer is 548ft long or 161m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DDG173_JDS_Kongo.jpg
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:01:00 -
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Wouldn't a Drake make a better yacht? Catamaran stability and a huge flat deck to party on and have a huge mansion style central room. Rokh seems too unstable with the fence post hull.
Quote:
[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: adfadfadfawe
Before you sell the house, I think you would be a lot better off if you satisfy your curiosity with a scale model. A quick tour around the lake in a 10 ft jon boat with cardboard wings will discourage all but the most determined. I know the people behind that earthrace boat did something similar before building the full scale wedge-shaped craft.
Actually in one of my 3D imaging programs I have made a scaled version of my rokh using simulations of what the oceans currents would do to something of it's odd shape. hence why I added the schooner fin on the bottom, in previous attempts it would capsize easily, so I made the design spec a bit more stable by adding that stabilizer, which makes sense. It made its center of gravity to that of below the water line.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Wouldn't a Drake make a better yacht? Catamaran stability and a huge flat deck to party on and have a huge mansion style central room. Rokh seems too unstable with the fence post hull.
Well if it sinks then it sinks. just salvage it and make it into a land ship lol. would make for a nice front yard ornament if I get those rail guns on it haha
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Can't Decide
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:07:00 -
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you know there are other ships in eve which may be far better at this...
the hurricane for example
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Wouldn't a Drake make a better yacht? Catamaran stability and a huge flat deck to party on and have a huge mansion style central room. Rokh seems too unstable with the fence post hull.
Actually, how about a Ferox? Yours for free, courtesy of the US Navy (delivery not included).
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:42:00 -
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lol this would be the greatest thing ever, wonder if you get into guiness book of world records with that if your serious.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: Zeba
Wouldn't a Drake make a better yacht? Catamaran stability and a huge flat deck to party on and have a huge mansion style central room. Rokh seems too unstable with the fence post hull.
Actually, how about a Ferox? Yours for free, courtesy of the US Navy (delivery not included).
You need to meet these requirements to get the ship though
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2006/09/fr091406.html
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: ADMR Hikari on 23/08/2009 11:04:30
Edited by: ADMR Hikari on 23/08/2009 11:03:37
I think I pass the "Serious enough" test, if I wasn't I wouldn't have even bothered asking anyone for opinions, also I've been looking into some thing and if I make the ship 60m long I will need at least 300 tonnes of metal hah, The Sea Shadow which is the US Navy's version of a drake almost, is shorter in length by 40' but weighs near 560+ Tonnes. Of course though I wont have all that stealth crap lol, just a nice Improved Cloak II hahaha.
No seriously though choosing a time frame of 10-15 years makes this project a possible one, if I had said 2 years then I think I might need to go to the mental ward.
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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:04:00 -
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NO NO NO. Make an APOC hull and use it upside down. Its basically a normal rounded bottom boat :P
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steejans nix
Amarr
0beron Construct
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:05:00 -
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My Apoc styled sub will trump you're Rokh yacht ! 
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Seishi Maru
NO NO NO. Make an APOC hull and use it upside down. Its basically a normal rounded bottom boat :P
That would defeat the purpose of it being an EvE ship then. and I would still have to use ballast's and a stab fin either way with any ship except the maelstrom.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:09:00 -
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:)
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:15:00 -
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ROFL - That's awesome, but if I am to go pirating I will be changing the paint job to pre-premium graphics of the CNR when it was black with neon orange lights.... then it will be good to go.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar
:)
LOL!
Quote:
[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:18:00 -
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I wonder if anyone else has ever had a crazy idea like this on the game boards.
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:20:00 -
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http://www.walyou.com/blog/2008/12/08/giant-lego-colony-spaceship-is-spectacular/
http://www.walyou.com/blog/2008/09/23/huge-lego-aircraft-carrier-gets-respect/
Shame I couldn't find the HUGE lego battleship.
Lego!
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