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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jared D''Uroth on 23/08/2009 16:54:27
 Originally by: Kolatha
I personally think a Drake would probably translate better to an irl yacht.
It would make for a great looking cat.
This, to be honest. A brick doesn't have much in the way of floating.
See if you can squeeze a sponsorship out of CCP 
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I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
I think the Hyperion would make a much better yacht.
Well really I would build a Tempest...
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:41:00 -
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would suggest avoiding mixing aluminum and steel in the same hull. electrolysis is a real pita.
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
10-15 years...
You must be a Brit.
Americans can't maintain this level of compulsiveness for 15 years.
Hope people still remember what Eve is / was in 15 years when you're done.
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Luckner on 23/08/2009 18:38:13
Well, just an other idea. If you really want to make it real, look at dutch harbour houses. They build them on a floating concrete ponton.
Maybe that would fit better for a Rokh type hull. Additionally, mixing different metals isn't a good idea. Corrosion and temperature stress will cause you major headaches.
In my opinion, go with a pure steel/concrete design, saves you tonnes of trouble. (steel and concrete have similar material properties)
It wouldn't be a yacht, more of a floating home with limited propulsion. For a fast moving ship I would prefer a Drake, would make a great flashy cat.
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Tajidan
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:39:00 -
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I'd recommend to build something Minmatar, the more it will rust the more accurate it will get :D
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz
Originally by: ADMR Hikari
10-15 years...
You must be a Brit.
Americans can't maintain this level of compulsiveness for 15 years.
Hope people still remember what Eve is / was in 15 years when you're done.
No I'm german by birth and moved to USA when I was 3 yrs old and was abandoned and thus I am an orphan. I was lucky to get adopted by such an awesome family though.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:03:00 -
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Obviously people have never heard of the anti-rust mixture they use on michigan cars, it's really great for the underbody and is generally a factory standard here due to us having salty roads in the winter. I'm pretty sure I can use the same stuff on the hull of a ship, also about the mixing of metals. I'm not going to weld them directly to each other, think of having an outer hull with an non conductive polymer in between the two, kinda like rubber... maybe when I finally get to that point I will deal with it then but right now everything is in planning and design.
There is also a more common method used which some people probably don't know about and is very cost effective is attaching magnesium strips to the underside of the vessel. An electric current is generated, with the magnesium and iron acting as electrodes and seawater acting as the electrolyte, or using a battery system connected to the hull provides a small current but enough to stop corrosion.
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Jessica Lanson
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:04:00 -
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As an EVE player I like this idea.
You can build a small boat. Many do.
However, as a motor yacht owner, I never heard of anyone insane enough to home-build a yacht this size. The first guy that tries it will probably become a casualty because SHIP-building (as opposed to boat-building) isn't as simple as people think it is (size + motion of the ocean) and the fact that the sea kills you if you 100% right first time.
I don't and can't design the things but you pick up stuff up if you take an interest in your own boat, and several of the thing you say worry me.
If you want to build it yourself, buy professional plans from a qualifed and experienced architect.
You could also buy a "dutch barge" (google it) and convert it. At least that way you know it's sea-worthy. They're already the right shape and will accept your custom "Rokh" superstructure. You can probably get an old 60 footer for USD $100,000.
Don't forget insurance and berthing and whatever license you need for your classification. I for one wouldn't moor alongside you and I'll bet the harbour master agrees.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Abrazzar
I think the Hyperion would make a much better yacht.
Well really I would build a Tempest...
A tempest has no hull on which to make displacement which is what you need if you want the ship to stay afloat, also all minmatar ships are crap for anything like this except the Maelstrom. the Temp/Phoon are both made like a scaffold full of holes and not very safe.
But if I had to choose something with the best chances of being sea worthy it would be the Maelstrom, it is already built like a ship made for water.
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Jessica Lanson
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:23:00 -
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Having now read the rest of the thread that was posted after the first message, this is clearly a troll, but at least it's funny :P
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:26:00 -
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why not a wyvern? its got the sails set up and everything 
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Sharp Feather
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
Silent Requiem
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
Edited by: ADMR Hikari on 23/08/2009 15:22:04
but I will need more than that, there will be a need for a cook or two, navigation officer, helmsman, engineers for various needs & deck crew(janitors). Then if I got permits to do it legally I could turn it into a small liner like someone mentioned earlier.
Ok, this part is ridiculus. You are quite naive. Get down back to earth, yes you can make a boat, but please, make it 30 meter long, or even 15... not 60, thats ridiculus.
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xOm3gAx
Caldari
Stain of Mind
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:07:00 -
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Well if you do actually build this thing i have a background in electrical engineering and can help you with that.
GL
And btw your nuts =)
The rokh is probably one of the least water stable designs you could have picked tbh.
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Her boyfriend's way hot, too; tall and tanned. And I say this as a very hetero male who doesn't ever dream of the man on cold, dark nights.
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:24:00 -
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lol OP is actually serious.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Abrazzar
I think the Hyperion would make a much better yacht.
Well really I would build a Tempest...
A tempest has no hull on which to make displacement which is what you need if you want the ship to stay afloat, also all minmatar ships are crap for anything like this except the Maelstrom. the Temp/Phoon are both made like a scaffold full of holes and not very safe.
But if I had to choose something with the best chances of being sea worthy it would be the Maelstrom, it is already built like a ship made for water.
Plus if it capsizes, hey - spare sails!
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Dimitrios Ypsilanti
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
...the best chances of being sea worthy...
You're forgetting the battle-cruisers. The Hurricane is practically a boat already.
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My Jebus
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:04:00 -
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Why are you asking us?
You said you have a family full of Navy vets. If anyone can tell if this plan is crazy your family would know... hold on a minute...
Originally by: ADMR Hikari
I'm technically a noob at this stuff, my family thinks I'm crazy...
I agree with your family, you are batsh!t crazy!
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Rawthorm
Gallente
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:07:00 -
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Drake would have been far better in both looks and for it's workability tbh :p
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My Jebus
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:09:00 -
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...and everybody knows the best looking spaceship hull converted into a yacht would be the Machariel.
Don't steal my idea I'm building it.
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Leviathan9
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:57:00 -
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I think a domi would be best..
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:13:00 -
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Yea I had someone tell me a mega would be optimal until I noted abot the downward angles on the front.. hit a big wave and the ship turns into a sub
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sharp Feather
Originally by: ADMR Hikari
Edited by: ADMR Hikari on 23/08/2009 15:22:04
but I will need more than that, there will be a need for a cook or two, navigation officer, helmsman, engineers for various needs & deck crew(janitors). Then if I got permits to do it legally I could turn it into a small liner like someone mentioned earlier.
Ok, this part is ridiculus. You are quite naive. Get down back to earth, yes you can make a boat, but please, make it 30 meter long, or even 15... not 60, thats ridiculus.
why is 60m crazy? they have motor yachts bigger than that you know by at least 300'+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_yachts_by_length
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Originally by: ADMR Hikari
...the best chances of being sea worthy...
You're forgetting the battle-cruisers. The Hurricane is practically a boat already.
I didn't forget about them, I just don't care about them
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
Drake would have been far better in both looks and for it's workability tbh :p
Yea but a Catamaran is too common nowadays.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: ADMR Hikari on 23/08/2009 23:55:34
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
why not a wyvern? its got the sails set up and everything
o.0 that would probably be the worst ship to use, that long piece on the bow would certainly cause problems. Such as the need to have a huge amount of weight in the rear to counter-balance the sheer size of that front end.
A real good ship would actually be the Orca, it's already like a barge but I chose the rokh a long time ago, changing everything now would be annoying to rework the designs... although the Orca design could fit some nasty guns LOL, get some of those Triple 16"
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.24 00:45:00 -
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While odds are this is a troll, if you really are stupid enough to do this, please arrange a video record of the attempt so that we can all laugh as you earn your Darwin award. Just be sure to do it solo, don't get other people killed in the process.
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ADMR Hikari
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:34:00 -
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If I want to troll I would go to jita and setup a smartbomb raven and undock at moon 4 cal navy and just detonate on anything smaller than a BB in range.
Seriously though, I don't see how it's such a "stupid" idea. Really give me some proof why it would be so horrible? while taking in everything from all the previous posts, actually read it. I'm guessing at least 70% of the people on the forums just skim posts hence why I have had to restate things various times.
I thank everyone else who has given me support and criticism as well, even if the criticism was meant to shoot me down most of you gave good reasons in your posts. There were some things I had not thought of hence why I asked for ideas/opinions and the sort. and I shot for 60 meters just b/c I can not b/c I care about practicality but simply b/c I want to though assuming costs and labor on down the road it is also possible the scale of the project will be down sized, not something I want to do but anything is possible.
Also if people are just going to flame here without providing a decent argument and just spouting off "I think your an idiot" well there's the door & don't let it hit you on the way out.
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RabbidFerret
Bannable Offense.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:35:00 -
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This is an awesomely ambitious idea. But I cringe when I think of the sports cars that you could buy with $400,000 USD instead.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: ADMR Hikari
Really give me some proof why it would be so horrible?
Bricks don't float.
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