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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
678
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:49:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:
OMG - null-sec is for a few people that live eat and breath EVE. That is the truth of the matter. There are far more pople that play this game on a more casual basis. They are not interested in holding territories. They just want to play a sci-fi game. EVE is one of the only really decent sci-fi games out right now. If another triple AAA - good sci-fi game - was on the market - that had the same sandbox qualites - EVE would die.
Translation: I indeed affirm and swear I cannot cut it in nullsec.
I bet you used to do vanguards. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:50:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Then all is a lie and this game is as linear as any other. Time to abandon all illusions of choice, limited as they were and abandon ship then?
Nullsec is the purest part of the EVE sandbox. No, if null is the place where all should end up it is the endgame, and thus the game as a whole is not a sandbox.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7764
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:50:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:75% of characters if I remember right You don't.
Ginseng Jita wrote:There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more. Unfortunately, there are no hard numbers to that effect. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:51:00 -
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Christopher Dulson wrote:i dont know why people think that pve automatically means mining.
Why most people play solo or mostly solo;
1. have you ever tried to do something with a lot of people in this game. It takes forever just to form up let alone run a sweep of lowsec or spent hours station camping/gate camping. If its a weekday and you have a job to go to then solo is sometimes the only option.
2. Running missions/nullbearing is always a good way to raise isk
3. If you only have an hour or two to kill then group work is not an option.
4. lots more that i cant remember
1 and 3 seem to be the same reason. So you're off to a rocket of a start.
In null we formup quickly all the time. Usually if it's a Home Defense fleet it's under 3 minutes. Often by conventional gates.
The only reason bears can't/don't is because bears think the default state of Eve gameplay is "AFK".
Autopiloting takes forever when you're AFK.
Did I mention that your reason 4 is completely empty?
Also: What are you going to do with said ISK from point #2 if all you ever do is solo?
Answer: Buy a ship to earn ISK faster. But why? See above. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
811
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:75% of characters if I remember right You don't. Ginseng Jita wrote:There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more. Unfortunately, there are no hard numbers to that effect.
So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account? |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:53:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf. "We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time" --1 nerf later-- "ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again" Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something. OMG - null-sec is for a few people that live eat and breath EVE. That is the truth of the matter. There are far more pople that play this game on a more casual basis. They are not interested in holding territories. They just want to play a sci-fi game. EVE is one of the only really decent sci-fi games out right now. If another triple AAA - good sci-fi game - was on the market - that had the same sandbox qualites - EVE would die. So nullsec is only for hardcore gamers but if there were another game out with a mechanic like nullsec (read: sandbox) it would be wildly popular and kill Eve.
it looks like your pet monkey might be posting again for you. |
Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
174
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:53:00 -
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Greyscale Dash wrote:Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.
1. play solo 2. are pve only.
In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.
This is unacceptable. We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.
Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.
A lot of them just refuse to try other aspects of the game. A girl (omg, a real one too!) in my corp quit EVE last week because all she wants to do is mine solo. She felt she was being forced to play a certain way & wouldn't submit to that. I could not stop laughing. |
Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:54:00 -
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Don't forget there's a lot of industrial corps never get out of the manufacturing station, move materials/products through alts/contracts and buy/sell remotely. What are we gonna do with those?
And there's also the trading alt... sitting at tradehub the whole day. But at least with good skills, you can trade a lot per toon. With industry is like 10 or 11 jobs per toon with max skills... therefore many toons sitting at manufacturing hub that never get out.
You can gank the miner/mission-runner/hauler but there are still professions that you can do without ever undocking. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
152
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:54:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Tippia wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:75% of characters if I remember right You don't. Ginseng Jita wrote:There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more. Unfortunately, there are no hard numbers to that effect. So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account?
Masterbaterguy is the proud owner of his grand army of sov-null bots, farming our rats. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:54:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf. "We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time" --1 nerf later-- "ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again" Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something. OMG - null-sec is for a few people that live eat and breath EVE. That is the truth of the matter. There are far more pople that play this game on a more casual basis. They are not interested in holding territories. They just want to play a sci-fi game. EVE is one of the only really decent sci-fi games out right now. If another triple AAA - good sci-fi game - was on the market - that had the same sandbox qualites - EVE would die. So nullsec is only for hardcore gamers but if there were another game out with a mechanic like nullsec (read: sandbox) it would be wildly popular and kill Eve. it looks like your pet monkey might be posting again for you.
No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:55:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:.... it would require you to form real connections with other people ...
... like you.
That's what drives me off every time.
You are not, and I repeat not, one of the better features of EVE.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7764
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:55:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account? Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:56:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Greyscale Dash wrote:Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.
1. play solo 2. are pve only.
In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.
This is unacceptable. We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.
Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game. A lot of them just refuse to try other aspects of the game. A girl (omg, a real one too!) in my corp quit EVE last week because all she wants to do is mine solo. She felt she was being forced to play a certain way & wouldn't submit to that. I could not stop laughing.
Why does someones play style infringe on your play style. I'll never understand this. These open ended games were meant to play as the player wishes to play it. If she was paying for her sub, let her play as she wishes to. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
678
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:56:00 -
[44] - Quote
Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.
Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.
Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
320
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:57:00 -
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Denial is a good tactic, OP. 25% of players subbed for PVP, and the average player has been in Eve for two years. I think they already know what they want to do and they're likely to be doing it. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:57:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:masternerdguy wrote:.... it would require you to form real connections with other people ... ... like you. That's what drives me off every time. You are not, and I repeat not, one of the better features of EVE. In today's technological environment, Homo Sapiens are always more compelling than coded responses.
Always. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account? Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.
I'd bet they are.
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Syndrea Caedrion
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:58:00 -
[48] - Quote
Greyscale Dash wrote:Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.
1. play solo 2. are pve only.
In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.
This is unacceptable. We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.
Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.
Don't forget the concentration camps too. Oh, excuse me, re-education communities. Gotta teach them a lesson, huh? No non-conformity will be tolerated. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
678
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:59:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream.
Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it.
Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:So masternerdguy makes up the majority of all plaeyrs...him...his lone account? Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.
unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:00:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream. Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it. Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE.
If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7764
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:00:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec GǪexcept that 75% of people are not in highsec.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:01:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Greyscale Dash wrote:Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.
1. play solo 2. are pve only.
In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.
This is unacceptable. We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.
Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game. A lot of them just refuse to try other aspects of the game. A girl (omg, a real one too!) in my corp quit EVE last week because all she wants to do is mine solo. She felt she was being forced to play a certain way & wouldn't submit to that. I could not stop laughing. Why does someones play style infringe on your play style. I'll never understand this. These open ended games were meant to play as the player wishes to play it. If she was paying for her sub, let her play as she wishes to.
Duh its not like this is a sandbox game, you do what they want or gtfo
Tippia wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:unlikely given 75% of ppl are in high sec GǪexcept that 75% of people are not in highsec.
Interesting... youre saying the CCP that tweeted they were was.... lying then?
Tippia tinfoil best tinfoil |
Garr Samuel
Tafatt
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:01:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf. "We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time" --1 nerf later-- "ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again" Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something.
Nono, blasphemy! Art thou implying that some does not take internetspaceship pewpew game as srsbiznizly as thou or others?
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Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:01:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream. Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it. Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE. If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember? Many games go to great lengths to simulate reality.
Your mileage may vary, depending on a number of factors... |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
678
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:01:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream. Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it. Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE. If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember?
Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7764
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:03:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Interesting... youre saying the CCP that tweeted they were was.... lying then? No, I'm saying that you are.
CCP has never said anything of the kind. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:04:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream. Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it. Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE. If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember? Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox.
Bring on perma-death, or admit you're anti-sandbox (or at least your current misapprehended version thereof).
I've got a feeling there are some "consequences" you don't support.
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:05:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: No...if there were another good sci-fi sandbox game out there. Doesn't even have to have as much PvP as this game has - it would bury EVE.
Oh my, another person who thinks a sandbox is some kind of ultraliberal hippie "be anything you want to be whenever you feel like it" dream. Fun fact: The real world, where you have a job and taxes, is a pure sandbox. You *can* do anything, but you must acquire the prerequisite capital (resources), team (friends), and knowledge (science) to do it. Nullsec is the closest you can get to the real world in EVE. If I want the real world, I'll turn off the "game" and walk out my front door. This is supposedly a game - remember? Fine. Then admit you are anti-sandbox.
I'm all for sandbox. The problem is - you are not. You want thegame to revolve around you and your gaming style and forget that there are tons more people playing this game than just you. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
680
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:06:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:
I'm all for sandbox. The problem is - you are not. You want thegame to revolve around you and your gaming style and forget that there are tons more people playing this game than just you.
Except you are against sandbox elements that make your casual gameplay experience less enjoyable.
You don't want a sandbox mate. You want a themepark.
You want to login, and just go have fun with no consequences. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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