I'm all for sandbox. The problem is - you are not. You want thegame to revolve around you and your gaming style and forget that there are tons more people playing this game than just you.

I can never understand this leap of logic.

You seem to think that if people attack you, they are doing so because they don't like your playstyle.

On the contrary!

If they're attacking you, people love your playstyle and probably hope you keep it up!

You don't want a sandbox mate. You want a themepark.

You want to login, and just go have fun with no consequences.

Huh? WTF are you talking about? You are making no sense whatsoever? If you think I am against ganking...LMAO!

Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.

1. play solo
2. are pve only.

In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.

Errr... source? linky?

No, I'm saying that you are.

CCP has never said anything of the kind.

John Turbefield GÇÅ@CCP_Diagoras

Locations of active chars with more than 5m SP just after midnight: High Sec 66.00%, Low sec 7.37%, Null sec 20.73%, Wormhole Space 5.89%

What I think is that you seem to take some in-game action as an attack against your personal playstyle.

Beyond that, I really have no context and couldn't care less.

What I said remains true regardless of your occupation in Eve Online or your personal beliefs.

Why does someones play style infringe on your play style. I'll never understand this. These open ended games were meant to play as the player wishes to play it. If she was paying for her sub, let her play as she wishes to.

lying... what? Yeah you

Wow...just wow...you are wankers. Your mindless drivel is just that - mindless. You make little to no sense. YOur comments are from left field. Maybe you played a bit to much rugby as a child huh?

What I think is that you seem to take some in-game action as an attack against your personal playstyle.

Beyond that, I really have no context and couldn't care less.

What I said remains true regardless of your occupation in Eve Online or your personal beliefs.

Yes you.

It wasn't 75% and, as always, it wasn't players. So no, [whatever]% of players are not in highsec.

By the way, do you have an actual source for that?

Technically speaking, Tippia, [whatever]% of players are, by necessity, in high-sec.

Fine. The point I'm making is that as soon as you see someone make a claim where that [whatever] is replaced with an actual number, you can be sure that they've made it up since no such number has ever been presented.

In particular, it's a rather silly mistake to believe that GÇ£charactersGÇ¥ equates to GÇ£peopleGÇ¥.

Yes you.

It wasn't 75% and, as always, it wasn't players. So no, [whatever]% of players are not in highsec.

By the way, do you have an actual source for that quote?

John Turbefield GÇÅ@CCP_Diagoras

Locations of active chars with more than 5m SP just after midnight: High Sec 66.00%, Low sec 7.37%, Null sec 20.73%, Wormhole Space 5.89%
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[quote=Disregard That]The point I'm making is that as soon as you see someone make a claim where that [whatever] is replaced with an actual number.

Yeah twitter.
use His name and scroll down...

But yeah.... cause CCP_diagoras, TOTALLY not CCP

Your reaching now

When its CCP doing it....

When its CCP doing it....

Unless you dont believe them either then yeah, like I said; Tippia tinfoil best tinfoil

You can link to individual tweets, you knowGǪ

Not really, no, because the simple fact remains: CCP never said what you claimed they said. 75% of players (or 66% if you so like) are not in higsec.

GǪexcept that they're not, and even they would have problem finding out the number of players in highsec.

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Yeah twitter.
use His name and scroll down...

https://twitter.com/#!/CCP_Diagoras

29 february

There for all to read, but I dont do twitter so I dont know how to link it :p

But yeah.... cause CCP_diagoras, TOTALLY not CCP

Your reaching now

(pssst? Last post I said "oops it was 66% not 75% so yeah cram it lol)

Keep lying Tippia

It doesn't matter. The whole context of the survey just illuminates ignorance as to what Eve is: PVP.

Dont' be silly, if EVE is a sandbox then it's what players make of it. If it's over 50% solo PvE then it's a PvE game.

In reality, all that's happened is that a whole lot of PvE players are playing EVE because it's the only s-f game in town. It looks great, and it's rich and complex with many ladders of achievement. At best, most of the PvE-ers who play it are reconciled to the "danger" of being violenced by PvP.

IOW, the shenanigans you PvP dudes get up to just give a background sense of aliveness to the game for the rest of us

Oh, and, it's only a game ...

Unlikely, but it's entirely possible that people like him are not a minority or a small percentage of players.

If it were truly a PVE game because sandboxes are a democracy and a majority are only interested in PVE, then nobody would be getting ganked in high-sec or low-sec or null-sec because, alas, the game is PVE content by popular demand.

Sandbox != Democracy.

Nice try though, really.

This is what happens in the seedier part of the town. See how the human trash gets left behind, and become a feature around these parts?

Yes you.

It wasn't 75% and, as always, it wasn't players. So no, [whatever]% of players are not in highsec.

By the way, do you have an actual source for that quote?