Oh god how did I not know about this topic until now. It's like some sort of goldmine of angry pubbies thinking goons give a **** who has them wardecced and when.

If you ever get tired of sitting on a safe-to-dock station in highsec, with 20 neutral repping alts, waiting to gank some idiot doing missions, and actually want to kill goons... set destination VFK. Day or night, we'll be there. And I guarantee we'll formup to fight. Real fighting. None of this "Hug a station in dockrange with neutral reps ready to dock at the first sign of trouble" **** either. We fight like men. Fat, naked, sweaty, hairy, diabetic men.

So get all your friends together from your list there, set destination VFK... or carry on being super :spacemad: you can't shoot goons in highsec for free I guess v0v

INFERNO 1.1 DEFENSIVE ALLY SHIELD ENGAGED (QUICK LETS PROTECT THE LARGE ALLIANCES EDITION!)

As anyone who has been following galactic politics will now know the Inferno 1.1 patch has effectively removed large-scale defensive coalitions of small organizations from the game. The impact of these changes is pretty vast. Today we were offered assistence in our war against Goonswarm Federation for the princely sum of "1m isk" from Privateers alliance - a great deal one might think! Unfortunately Concord has placed a 10,485,761,000,000.00 ISK "admin fee" onto the transaction so this probably marks the end of our fun and games.

I really wanted to buy another house in a couple of years so I can't really afford to pay an estimated $300,000 real life dollars to bring a 52nd ally into my internet spaceship war however much I'd love too

***

And while everyone digests that little piece of insanity I'll take the opportunity to say a big thank-you to the following corps and alliances who opted to show solidarity with the Star Fraction as defensive allies over the last couple of weeks. As far as we know the allied contracts will continue for 2 weeks now then pretty much end forever.

So thanks to:

Next Era Dawn
Sons of Michael
The Blacklist lTd.
Hostile Kids
Spontaneous Castigation
Tremendous Fail Inc.
Pandora Cartel
Kutisha ujuzi
The State
INVARIANT TENSOR
Kursk Security
Envy.
I know Right
Moustache Twirling Space Cads
Multicultural Appreciate Society
Dukes of Noobs
P I R A T
C.I.A NRDS
We help Noobs
Angelservice
Born in Sodom
Ex Obscuritas
Nocturnal Twins
P O D
Let Us Sleep
New eden Lotto
Advanced Ballistic Retail Armoury
Unicorn Zero
Kamikaze Tactics
Pods Must Cry
Iron Oxide.
New Oregon Republic
Labour anal
Kicking Smurfs
We Have flatulents
I AM UGLY AND THIS MAKES ME ANGRY ALSO JUMP
Owl Squadron
Freight Club
Tactical Nightmare
PAX Interstellar Mercenary People
Destruction Overload
The Chihuahuas of War
Moar Tears
JESUS CHRIST IT'S ROBOT UNICORN ATTACK PARTY
Corpus Alienum
Hikage Corporation
Terry Mad Tuff Tuffs GmbH and Co. KG
Electric Society
Samoan Joe's
Rowdy Ramblers

***

At the time of writing the Star Fraction coalition is beating Goonswarm by 14.8b isk (and 122 kills) to 1.7b isk (and 27 kills) and the top kills on the heroic guerilla side are still "Freight Club" with their 9b isk Ark Jumpfreighter kill.

In two weeks time when the Goonswarm memorial DEFENSIVE ALLY SHIELD comes fully into operation I'll have a quick count up of the totals and give a fleet tempest (ironically contributed to the defensive effort by the goon economic cabal) to the defensive ally with the greatest performance in the war to date.

So you still have 2 weeks from today to murder goons - give it a good try everyone (9b isk is the score to beat).

All the best.

INFERNO 1.1 DEFENSIVE ALLY SHIELD ENGAGED (QUICK LETS PROTECT THE LARGE ALLIANCES EDITION!)

As anyone who has been following galactic politics will now know the Inferno 1.1 patch has effectively removed large-scale defensive coalitions of small organizations from the game. The impact of these changes is pretty vast. Today we were offered assistence in our war against Goonswarm Federation for the princely sum of "1m isk" from Privateers alliance - a great deal one might think! Unfortunately Concord has placed a 10,485,761,000,000.00 ISK "admin fee" onto the transaction so this probably marks the end of our fun and games.

I really wanted to buy another house in a couple of years so I can't really afford to pay an estimated $300,000 real life dollars to bring a 52nd ally into my internet spaceship war however much I'd love too

***

And while everyone digests that little piece of insanity I'll take the opportunity to say a big thank-you to the following corps and alliances who opted to show solidarity with the Star Fraction as defensive allies over the last couple of weeks. As far as we know the allied contracts will continue for 2 weeks now then pretty much end forever.

So thanks to:

Next Era Dawn
Sons of Michael
The Blacklist lTd.
Hostile Kids
Spontaneous Castigation
Tremendous Fail Inc.
Pandora Cartel
Kutisha ujuzi
The State
INVARIANT TENSOR
Kursk Security
Envy.
I know Right
Moustache Twirling Space Cads
Multicultural Appreciate Society
Dukes of Noobs
P I R A T
C.I.A NRDS
We help Noobs
Angelservice
Born in Sodom
Ex Obscuritas
Nocturnal Twins
P O D
Let Us Sleep
New eden Lotto
Advanced Ballistic Retail Armoury
Unicorn Zero
Kamikaze Tactics
Pods Must Cry
Iron Oxide.
New Oregon Republic
Labour anal
Kicking Smurfs
We Have flatulents
I AM UGLY AND THIS MAKES ME ANGRY ALSO JUMP
Owl Squadron
Freight Club
Tactical Nightmare
PAX Interstellar Mercenary People
Destruction Overload
The Chihuahuas of War
Moar Tears
JESUS CHRIST IT'S ROBOT UNICORN ATTACK PARTY
Corpus Alienum
Hikage Corporation
Terry Mad Tuff Tuffs GmbH and Co. KG
Electric Society
Samoan Joe's
Rowdy Ramblers

***

At the time of writing the Star Fraction coalition is beating Goonswarm by 14.8b isk (and 122 kills) to 1.7b isk (and 27 kills) and the top kills on the heroic guerilla side are still "Freight Club" with their 9b isk Ark Jumpfreighter kill.

In two weeks time when the Goonswarm memorial DEFENSIVE ALLY SHIELD comes fully into operation I'll have a quick count up of the totals and give a fleet tempest (ironically contributed to the defensive effort by the goon economic cabal) to the defensive ally with the greatest performance in the war to date.

So you still have 2 weeks from today to murder goons - give it a good try everyone (9b isk is the score to beat).

All the best.

Be sure to let us know when you break their spirits Jade.

So thanks to:


Spontaneous Castigation
Moustache Twirling Space Cads
I AM UGLY AND THIS MAKES ME ANGRY ALSO JUMP
The Chihuahuas of War
JESUS CHRIST IT'S ROBOT UNICORN ATTACK PARTY
Terry Mad Tuff Tuffs GmbH and Co. KG

The thing that I've learned from this thread is that there are some corps out there with awesome names.

Thanks for the opportunity Jade. A war against the goons will look nice on my war history.

Cheers,
AA

It will not, because real wars are fought in nullsec, and thus absent from the war history page.

It will not, because real wars are fought in nullsec, and thus absent from the war history page.

You sound a bit embarrassed about the complete trouncing your side now has on your permanent war record.

You are horrible at psychoanalysis. The fact that two random goons went and welped their personal jump freighters on the Jita undock doesn't make a scratch on the fact that we have fought and conquered half the galaxy. When we're doing actual, real wars, we often lose 50 billion isk fleets of maelstroms every week.

Well end of the day you declared this war that you went on to get kicked horribly to pieces in. It wasn't really a great success for the Mittani - instead of humiliating and "griefing" a vocal enemy, the only people that got humiliated and "griefed" were goons - followed by the rest of Eve who now have to suffer the appaling fiasco of the 1.1 wardec changes rushed in.

Perhaps next time "man up" and don't cry about it when you pick on a target that turns the tables against you.

I have come to the definite conclusion that you live in an alternate universe.

i) There was no actual war, only a handful of ganks and counterganks. Victims on our part are mostly cute newbies and retards who were oblivious to the existence of wardecs. Add to that a few skirmishes and 800 million isk faction fit bombers, it works out. This isn't even close to ''Goons being kicked to pieces''.

ii) We never cried to CCP about the wardec system; CCP has confirmed this. The CSM has confirmed it

I live in a universe where alliance income doesn't come from endless moon-mineral pumps, where the social consequences that let me add 51 free allies into a defensive wardec are considered "bad" and the emergent gamplay of enabling a hisec coalition to punch the fattest alliance in the game right in its silly face becomes such an embarrassment that it needs to be patched out of the game soonest.

Thats what war is in hisec. You declared a hisec war, you can hardly complain about it being fought that way. If you wanted to fight by 0.0 rules then pick on a 0.0 target. What actually happened is you got kicked down the stairs with a bag over your head. You have thus far inflicted about 2b worth of kills and taken almost 15b losses. For the largest and richest alliance in the game to be running at 15% efficiency is pretty embarrassing.

And here's the thing. Since you guys have been sucking on the moon-goo-teat for near on five years now we ALL KNOW that there is literally nothing in Eve that can hand you a significant material upset. You could lose your space empire 5x times over and not impact the wallets of your wealthiest pilots. This is known.

But the one resource you don't have an unlimited supply of is pride. You guys really hate getting curb-stomped by "pubbies" and that my friend is precisely what happened to you on this occasion. Its written in your permanent war record. Enjoy.

Nobody really cares what rank and file goons say happened, its what your leadership did that matters. There are podcasts on the internet that have a record of your friends on the CSM going to iceland to complain about the 0.0 alliances getting dogpiled by empire coalitions. History will show that you guys picked a war that turned bad and when you were getting beaten black and blue CCP changed the mechanics that incidently helped you out of your jam. Bravo Goonswam.

And by "social consequences" you mean "game mechanic exploitation".

We're not going to get very far in a discussion if you insist on telling lies and making ridiculous statements in your first sentence.

Good thing I was just correcting your misrepresentation of the truth throughout the entire post, then.

As I said, unless you can post truthfully for a least one sentence (the first one) there isn't going to be a discussion.

You need to accept that you have a pretty terrible reputation at the moment "zim". Your credibility is at an all time low

and claiming that another player is "exploiting" a game mechanic when there is a devblog that specifically mentions "unlimited allies" available on these forums is not going to add much to your rep.

Just accept you lost the war and have had your blushes spared by CCP nerfing wardec ally mechanic. It'll be far easier on your ego in the long run!

Pot, meet kettle.

If the limit of your intellect is reached with "no you are" responses then there isn't much more to say on your issue.

how about addressing the fact that the changes for 1.1 were begun well in advance of our war against you?

Sure, I said right at the beginning of my posting in the wardec changes thread that the first people who kicked your teeth in using the new wardec system were Honda Accord.

Your representatives started bleating at that point.

The crying only reached a fever pitch after we decided to lock you into the conflict with mutual wardec however.

So you're pointing to a war which, after 1.5 months had accrued 18.7b in damages received to 7.28b in damages dealt (meaning less than 500m/day in pure losses for us), and you're actually trying to tell us that this is supposed to be enough to get MIttani to whine to CCP?

You're pointing to a war which, after 1 month has accrued 15b in damages received for 1.76b in damages dealt (meaning around 500m/day in pure losses for us), and you've actually been trying to tell us that this was supposed to be enough to get Mittani to whine to CCP?

For that matter, I wonder why both CCP and CSM are saying "nope, jade, you're wrong" when you go all tinfoil on us, and they all repeatedly say that they've all been in agreement on most of the details (but not all; cost being one of them)? Hell, Alekseyev is going on record saying that he was the one spearheading for reforms to the inferno wardec system (and not mittani).

Are you saying that they're all lying, and that this is all a goon-led conspiracy initiated because of a pissant war or two which a large portion of the goon population could've covered out of their own pockets?