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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2002
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:12:00 -
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Elecktra Blue wrote:Did you really just say "hi sec pvpers" ? Yes station games take skill...Please continue to give us more targets. All you are doing is keeping us from being bored.
Well you were one's making hisec wardecs one has to expect you were anticipating hisec pvpers, and really - superior-than-thou nonsense from a huge click F1 alliance hardly becomes you.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
887
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:24:00 -
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Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games.
We have no problems blueballing you and pouncing the second you get bored and undock your five billion isk mission running ship. If you want to fight the supposed 9000 players you should just head to nullsec and do so all day for free. But by all means, do join Jade and turn highsec into functional nullsec for us. We will introduce you to the wonders of AFK cloaking.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2002
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:55:00 -
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@ the goon above talking about mission ships - wasn't this one of yours? :)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
887
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:56:00 -
[34] - Quote
I don't personally know each of our billion members and thus cannot be held responsible for every membercorp individual who I have never spoken to, but if they want to run highsec level 4 missions in wartarget infested countries, it is their most basic right.
Nevertheless, I am certain that the loss of this two billion isk golem was a significant setback for the strategic-level objectives of the great Goonion, and thus its loss will be mourned. The masses will cry over its burned out husk for weeks at the spaceship equivalent of a state funeral.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2002
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:40:00 -
[35] - Quote
Krios Ahzek wrote:I don't personally know each of our billion members and thus cannot be held responsible for every membercorp individual who I have never spoken to, but if they want to run highsec level 4 missions in wartarget infested countries, it is their most basic right.
Nevertheless, I am certain that the loss of this two billion isk golem was a significant setback for the strategic-level objectives of the great Goonion, and thus its loss will be mourned. The masses will cry over its burned out husk for weeks at the spaceship equivalent of a state funeral.
But it is a little ironic you were talking about how hisec'ers were going to lose silly pimped mission ships to your comrades without noticing that seems to be happening in reverse.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
643
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:50:00 -
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In this thread highsec people mistakenly think goons care about losses in highsec and goons mistakenly think people care about causing actual damage to them. |
Elecktra Blue
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.11 00:17:00 -
[37] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:I don't personally know each of our billion members and thus cannot be held responsible for every membercorp individual who I have never spoken to, but if they want to run highsec level 4 missions in wartarget infested countries, it is their most basic right.
Nevertheless, I am certain that the loss of this two billion isk golem was a significant setback for the strategic-level objectives of the great Goonion, and thus its loss will be mourned. The masses will cry over its burned out husk for weeks at the spaceship equivalent of a state funeral. But it is a little ironic you were talking about how hisec'ers were going to lose silly pimped mission ships to your comrades without noticing that seems to be happening in reverse.
Should you not be off fighting for freedom by means of your brothel? |
Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
138
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Posted - 2012.06.11 01:33:00 -
[38] - Quote
Man, I hope you get enough allies that I can break out the smartbombing battleship again. That's always fun, but too many damn neutrals in highsec. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2003
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:03:00 -
[39] - Quote
Krios Ahzek wrote:Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games.
And the occassional ARK loaded with filthy moon lucre. But seriously, if you guys ever get entirely sick of station-games and hisec hijinks then let mittani know and he can compose the surrender contract.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2003
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:46:00 -
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---Update.
Sad news everyone.
Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.
Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).
And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.
Ah well shrug really.
I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
888
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games. And the occassional ARK loaded with filthy moon lucre. But seriously, if you guys ever get entirely sick of station-games and hisec hijinks then let mittani know and he can compose the surrender contract.
You don't get it, do you? While I cannot presume to speak for Dear Leader, logic dictates that He will never compose a surrender contract. Do note that in addition to being a Goon, I am also a goon in the most fundamental sense; no title, no glory, no authority. However, I can tell you that virtually any goon in highsec is there specifically to **** with it. In the event that he (the goon) becomes individually bored or broke, he can always leave temporarily.
Thus, there is literally no reason for us to ever want to end the Forever War, therefore the only way out for you, is if YOU and everyone of your allies pay for your sins and surrender in shame. This is why you should continue piling every bottom feeding eel on your wardec. This is not a war; this is pest control.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
888
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:54:00 -
[42] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:---Update.
Sad news everyone.
Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.
Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).
And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.
Ah well shrug really.
I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.
Dear Space Luka Magnotta, I'd tell you to eat a **** but you'd like that so
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Bengal Bob
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
44
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:---Update.
Sad news everyone.
Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.
Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).
And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.
Ah well shrug really.
I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.
Not such bad news, because I wasn't sure where hi sec is. Near Rens isn't it? |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2003
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:35:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games. And the occassional ARK loaded with filthy moon lucre. But seriously, if you guys ever get entirely sick of station-games and hisec hijinks then let mittani know and he can compose the surrender contract. You don't get it, do you? While I cannot presume to speak for Dear Leader, logic dictates that He will never compose a surrender contract. Do note that in addition to being a Goon, I am also a goon in the most fundamental sense; no title, no glory, no authority. However, I can tell you that virtually any goon in highsec is there specifically to **** with it. In the event that he (the goon) becomes individually bored or broke, he can always leave temporarily. Thus, there is literally no reason for us to ever want to end the Forever War, therefore the only way out for you, is if YOU and everyone of your allies pay for your sins and surrender in shame. This is why you should continue piling every bottom feeding eel on your wardec. This is not a war; this is pest control.
Well the other option was clearly that you guys beg the devs to change the game to your benefit. Seems that's the way you went and Inferno Wardecs are getting the huge nerfbat. Collatoral damage to salve Mittani's ego.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
888
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:43:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games. And the occassional ARK loaded with filthy moon lucre. But seriously, if you guys ever get entirely sick of station-games and hisec hijinks then let mittani know and he can compose the surrender contract. You don't get it, do you? While I cannot presume to speak for Dear Leader, logic dictates that He will never compose a surrender contract. Do note that in addition to being a Goon, I am also a goon in the most fundamental sense; no title, no glory, no authority. However, I can tell you that virtually any goon in highsec is there specifically to **** with it. In the event that he (the goon) becomes individually bored or broke, he can always leave temporarily. Thus, there is literally no reason for us to ever want to end the Forever War, therefore the only way out for you, is if YOU and everyone of your allies pay for your sins and surrender in shame. This is why you should continue piling every bottom feeding eel on your wardec. This is not a war; this is pest control. Well the other option was clearly that you guys beg the devs to change the game to your benefit. Seems that's the way you went and Inferno Wardecs are getting the huge nerfbat. Collatoral damage to salve Mittani's ego.
I'm pretty sure that we aren't the ones crying about the foreverwar that we wanted and started. If anything we want a wardec system that allows us to shoot everyone in highsec forever.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2003
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:46:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Just to be clear, it's not really a foreverwar against the TEN THOUSAND Goonswarm players, it's a foreverwar against maybe two dozen of us who are not yet sick of station games. And the occassional ARK loaded with filthy moon lucre. But seriously, if you guys ever get entirely sick of station-games and hisec hijinks then let mittani know and he can compose the surrender contract. You don't get it, do you? While I cannot presume to speak for Dear Leader, logic dictates that He will never compose a surrender contract. Do note that in addition to being a Goon, I am also a goon in the most fundamental sense; no title, no glory, no authority. However, I can tell you that virtually any goon in highsec is there specifically to **** with it. In the event that he (the goon) becomes individually bored or broke, he can always leave temporarily. Thus, there is literally no reason for us to ever want to end the Forever War, therefore the only way out for you, is if YOU and everyone of your allies pay for your sins and surrender in shame. This is why you should continue piling every bottom feeding eel on your wardec. This is not a war; this is pest control. Well the other option was clearly that you guys beg the devs to change the game to your benefit. Seems that's the way you went and Inferno Wardecs are getting the huge nerfbat. Collatoral damage to salve Mittani's ego. I'm pretty sure that we aren't the ones crying about the foreverwar that we wanted and started. If anything we want a wardec system that allows us to shoot everyone in highsec forever.
Then I suggest you get active on the test server feedback thread and tell the developers that you don't want the total nerf of the allied system with Inferno Wardecs because when the 1.1 patch rolls around there won't be any.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
888
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:53:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:
Then I suggest you get active on the test server feedback thread and tell the developers that you don't want the total nerf of the allied system with Inferno Wardecs because when the 1.1 patch rolls around there won't be any.
I don't give a crap either way, but if such a nerf would get you to cry about the alleged goon control of game mechanics like a huge baby, I can't really be against it either. It's hilarious that you're going to have to pay for your allies forever by mining ice and servicing elder men.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2003
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:01:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:
Then I suggest you get active on the test server feedback thread and tell the developers that you don't want the total nerf of the allied system with Inferno Wardecs because when the 1.1 patch rolls around there won't be any.
I don't give a crap either way, but if such a nerf would get you to cry about the alleged goon control of game mechanics like a huge baby, I can't really be against it either. It's hilarious that you're going to have to pay for your allies forever by mining ice and servicing elder men.
We won't be paying anyone so the outcome will be less war for everyone. Your leader's whining will have removed targets from space, less war, less mayhem, less fun and games.
And obviously I've demutualled the war so you can now slink away in a couple of months after :forgetting: to pay the bill.
Good game.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:06:00 -
[49] - Quote
I'm pretty sure it was the "mercs" who were whining to CCP about this, since now if you get wardec'd and want help you just put up an advert and the various hisec pvp bottom feeders will flock to your banner. No more multibillion contracts, no more reputation building campaigns--or at least, they'd get lost in the fray and you'd have bottom feeders seeking to mooch credit.
We've been laughing all the way to the bank with this wardec system as is; being able to shoot everything that moves in hisec has long been a fond dream. Hell, if we're going to pester devs to make changes we'd do so to EXPAND the wardec system--we need to be able to dec NPC corps. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
888
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:06:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:
Then I suggest you get active on the test server feedback thread and tell the developers that you don't want the total nerf of the allied system with Inferno Wardecs because when the 1.1 patch rolls around there won't be any.
I don't give a crap either way, but if such a nerf would get you to cry about the alleged goon control of game mechanics like a huge baby, I can't really be against it either. It's hilarious that you're going to have to pay for your allies forever by mining ice and servicing elder men. We won't be paying anyone so the outcome will be less war for everyone.
Well if you're poor, you'll just have to up your DVDA rates, madam Constantine.
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-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
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Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:28:00 -
[51] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:---Update.
Sad news everyone.
Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.
Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).
And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.
Ah well shrug really.
I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.
I'm not sure that we made whine threads anywhere about this. The problem became obvious immediately after launch of the Inferno Wardec System when Pandemic Legion started selling war rights with -A- for 1 isk. You are not the first to abuse the system but you will probably be the last, at least until we find loopholes after it is "fixed". |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
Fuujin wrote:I'm pretty sure it was the "mercs" who were whining to CCP about this, since now if you get wardec'd and want help you just put up an advert and the various hisec pvp bottom feeders will flock to your banner. No more multibillion contracts, no more reputation building campaigns--or at least, they'd get lost in the fray and you'd have bottom feeders seeking to mooch credit.
We've been laughing all the way to the bank with this wardec system as is; being able to shoot everything that moves in hisec has long been a fond dream. Hell, if we're going to pester devs to make changes we'd do so to EXPAND the wardec system--we need to be able to dec NPC corps.
Don't forget out campaign to make high sec stations destructible. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2004
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:36:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:I'm pretty sure it was the "mercs" who were whining to CCP about this, since now if you get wardec'd and want help you just put up an advert and the various hisec pvp bottom feeders will flock to your banner. No more multibillion contracts, no more reputation building campaigns--or at least, they'd get lost in the fray and you'd have bottom feeders seeking to mooch credit.
We've been laughing all the way to the bank with this wardec system as is; being able to shoot everything that moves in hisec has long been a fond dream. Hell, if we're going to pester devs to make changes we'd do so to EXPAND the wardec system--we need to be able to dec NPC corps.
I think the irony for "merc corps" is that rather than being paid to join allied wars they will now be asked to pay for the service.
Inferno Wardec system now : one can invite and add an ally for free.
Inferno Wardec system 1.1: it will cost a concord fee to add an ally to the war for 2 weeks.
I guess it'll come down to a choice of paying concord direct to wardec x alliance (say 500m to goonswarm) or paying somebody that goonswarm has wardecced something less than 500m that still covers the concord admin fee.
Either way nobody is going to be paying mercenaries anything for unspecified services during incoming wardecs.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:42:00 -
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Not my problem. I was just proffering the arguments offered in the initial wardec reactions thread.
The fact that you're trying so hard to spin this as a GSF inspired change is endlessly amusing; please continue! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3280
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:52:00 -
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*posts a way to exploit game mechanics on eve-o* *those get patched* *is suprised* |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2008
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:56:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:Not my problem. I was just proffering the arguments offered in the initial wardec reactions thread.
The fact that you're trying so hard to spin this as a GSF inspired change is endlessly amusing; please continue!
Well, these changes are massively to your benefit (to the benefit of those of you who are yellow dog wardec evading cowards I should say).
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3280
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:57:00 -
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our wardec ain't never gonna drop jade, even when you give up and offer surrender terms |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3280
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:00:00 -
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that said we fuckin loved being able to shoot all of the detrius of eve you were able to sweep into the wardec , please continue posting yard-long screeds about it in the sisi thread |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:07:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Fuujin wrote:Not my problem. I was just proffering the arguments offered in the initial wardec reactions thread.
The fact that you're trying so hard to spin this as a GSF inspired change is endlessly amusing; please continue! Well, these changes are massively to your benefit (to the benefit of those of you who are yellow dog wardec evading cowards I should say).
How exactly are we wardec evading, when we are the ones who declared war? :psyduck:
Jade is now 4 levels deep in his conspiracy theories. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
890
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:14:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Fuujin wrote:Not my problem. I was just proffering the arguments offered in the initial wardec reactions thread.
The fact that you're trying so hard to spin this as a GSF inspired change is endlessly amusing; please continue! Well, these changes are massively to your benefit (to the benefit of those of you who are yellow dog wardec evading cowards I should say). How exactly are we wardec evading, when we are the ones who declared war? :psyduck: Jade is now 4 levels deep in his conspiracy theories.
Much like what Its gallente space brothel clients say while breaking out the lube, we have to go deeper.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
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