It's amazing that people who live in nullsec managed to figure that one out but the people who actually live in highsec have been whining for years about how logistics ships are invincible and there's no way to kill them. It probably has something to do with how they are more concerned with shouting OMG NEUTRAL! NEUTRAL!!!!! rather than actually trying to fight the spaceships.

I would agree with this statement.

Yet I would also agree that with all the Goon posting going on in this thread , clearly the idea of a huge war dec has caused many goon members excessive stress in their lives.... The crying here is a virtual cornucopia!

I would agree with this statement.

Yet I would also agree that with all the Goon posting going on in this thread , clearly the idea of a huge war dec has caused many goon members excessive stress in their lives.... The crying here is a virtual cornucopia!

Yet I would also agree that with all the Goon posting going on in this thread , clearly the idea of a huge war dec has caused many goon members excessive stress in their lives.... The crying here is a virtual cornucopia!

I would agree with this statement.

Yet I would also agree that with all the Goon posting going on in this thread , clearly the idea of a huge war dec has caused many goon members excessive stress in their lives.... The crying here is a virtual cornucopia!

Well heh, they declared war - started losing 10b to 1b and now need the wardec changes to get them out of the mess. There will obviously be some tears and footstamping and the forum trolling squad will try to cover the embarrassment.

Post that idiot's freighter mail, I need a good laugh.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13610769

"hmm de dum just going to toodle around in my 7b ship with 1.6b in cargo, in highsec"

jade reminder we're still waiting for your explanation of what on earth we (goonswarm leadership) would have to fear from you

you made this assertion then got all quiet-like when mocked on it and people demanded you explain

OH **** I JUST REMEMBERED

Jade is apparently under the impression that our ~vast moon wealth~ comes from Ferrogel

oh god

---Update.

Sad news everyone.

Goonswarm have whined CCP into nerfing the Inferno Wardec System because they hated the idea of ever losing even a fraction of their numerical advantage.

Basically defensive allies are being massively nerfed and it will no longer be possible to lock an attacker into a conflict via mutual war that includes any allies at all. (This means that Goonswarm will be able to shed significant offensive wars any time they please without consequence).

And on financial matters - the implication is that it'll be more expensive to call sufficient allies as a defender than it is to make the initial wardec from a 9000 person alliance against a 100 person alliance.

Ah well shrug really.

I guess we'll call it a form of moral victory that Mittani was forced to beg his mates at CCP to nerf the Inferno Wardec System because Goonswarm was being effectively opposed through the ally system.

jade reminder we're still waiting for your explanation of what on earth we (goonswarm leadership) would have to fear from you

you made this assertion then got all quiet-like when mocked on it and people demanded you explain

I'm pretty sure that we aren't the ones crying about the foreverwar that we wanted and started. If anything we want a wardec system that allows us to shoot everyone in highsec forever.

This post is a lie and pure conjecture. We liked the wardec system the way it was. It let us declare our multiple wars and fight everyone in empire. These changes actually hurt us.

We don't care about metrics, we don't care about losses, we don't care about the isk war, we don't care about K/D. We do care about people crying on the forums like you were doing so loudly.

Guys guys, you are the ones made the big bad wardec go away because it was soooooooo unfair :)

OH **** I JUST REMEMBERED

Jade is apparently under the impression that our ~vast moon wealth~ comes from Ferrogel

oh god

Guys guys, you are the ones made the big bad wardec go away because it was soooooooo unfair :)

You cried about it being unfair in the first place, .

**crickets**

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Honestly, these stretches of the imagination and blatant arrogance are really disappointing. Not only that, but the attacks on CCP as placating Goon leadership over some moronic wardecs is seriously disappointing and really a low-blow on your part to salvage a situation in which you look like a whiny kid...

HTFU

I got to admit, the whole "goon conspiracy" assertion is pretty thin, even for you, Jade. You broadly spoke of how you were "testing" the new wardec system and actively taking advantage of it and then act surprised when CC patched it. A fact, I might add, they said was planned even before it launched, before you even made this thread, before the Goons wardecced you.

So, explain to me again how this is a Goon plot and CCP is placating to the Goons? It just doesn't add up. I mean, if you start your argument from the beginning at "Well, CCP does everything to placate the Goons" then I'm sure connecting the dots for you in pretty easy. But for a broader base of EVE players, this stretch of the facts is somewhat illogical.

But the best part has to be the fact that you contradict yourself. Burn Jita was about Goons going loco on the Highsec population, killing without pause and taking what they wanted. Now, you've given them a free means to have a large portion of highsec available for killing. Sure, the isk efficiency was in your favor, but that's hardly a reason to assume they instantly wanted their war ended. Putting carebear or freighter ganks aside, you think Goons were behind on the isk war? Or that they even cared. Honestly, if they were looking for a way to turn Highsec into their new stomping grounds, you certainly helped them achieved that goal. Why would they then turn to CCP to change this?

Also, your war is four-five days old and Honda Accords haven't been at war with Goons for more than a month or so? Aren't you being a little arrogant to assume that CCP has announced a new patch, honestly, a lot of work on their part entailing weeks of hard work of multiple people, in response to a five-day or month-old wardec? You honestly believe CCP reacted that fast? Do you know CCP and their famed reaction time? Are you daft? That makes zero sense, to think that CCP announced a new patch because of Honda Accords or your war, for that matter, is just so mind baffling it leaves me laughing. You realize Goon freighters in highsec have been getting popped for years, right? You realize Goons laugh at those same Goons who are moronic enough to fly a freighter into highsec, right? Where's the logic? Where's the connection? This is same old, same old for them...

Honestly, these stretches of the imagination and blatant arrogance are really disappointing. Not only that, but the attacks on CCP as placating Goon leadership over some moronic wardecs is seriously disappointing and really a low-blow on your part to salvage a situation in which you look like a whiny kid...

HTFU