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TheSlaveMaster
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:44:00 -
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LMAO look at the new CCP Pets... ccp give me some new months free eve for not giving me what i pay for.
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Elsa Nietzsche I get the feeling that a lot of the people on here rageposting have a very wrong view on the purpose of Sisi. In that light, I am also in agreement that CCP did the right thing in just shutting it down. Hopefully when the smoke clears, the ragers will go back to TQ and the testers can get back to Sisi.
Well put, if your using SISI to get your "rocks off" and to "pew pew" then you are on the wrong server, many people was doing tests, and writing up reports. Today I had a fleet op planned with a few people in a low sec system, but this has put a stop on it.
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Dreae
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Edited by: Blane Xero on 11/10/2009 16:35:53
So what you are saying is that if Sisi suddenly disappeared our subscription would be cheaper? No, it wouldn't. So no, we aren't paying for sisi.
I'm not expressing my opinion on weather or not we are paying for sisi, I am saying that people should read the whole post before replying.
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3strikes
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:48:00 -
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They prolly do, their viewing sis more for the enefits of the events than anything else, but can you blame them? not everday the average pilot is offered the cahnce to fly super capitals, which is the pinnacle of the game, not much beyond it. I still understand why the shutdown happened but it would have been less inflamatory just to ban the station campers entirely.
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Ratty Ratter
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:49:00 -
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I had plans too but CCP messed them up
i see 44 players online. thats 44 ISD/MODs? WTF why do they say "As the situation was getting out of control on the test server" then. if they cant handle that problems with 44 man i wonder how they made this game ..
and it was not because of some players there didn't follow the rules... just say it CCP... your severs are crap
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Yafn
Robbing You of Your Space Pixels
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Well put, if your using SISI to get your "rocks off" and to "pew pew" then you are on the wrong server, many people was doing tests, and writing up reports. Today I had a fleet op planned with a few people in a low sec system, but this has put a stop on it.
If this is true then you are of a minority, The majority seem to use Sisi for the following:
1: ****ing off testers intentionally for kicks 2: Players using ships they would probably never be able to a afford on tq to play around in. 3: Especially on days like today, new players flying ships they will never probably have the isk or skills to fly ie Titans. "HOW DO I USE TITAN JUMP DRIVE???" is probably the best quote from this weekend to describe this. 4: People using Sisi to pvp on because they are so bad at it on tq where they actually lose money.
Tbh, if proper testers want to test in relative peace, they should sign up to be bughunters. Although I recognise that some people might not be comfortable with that.
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dischordia
Gallente wiggle Tech.
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ratty Ratter I had plans too but CCP messed them up
i see 44 players online. thats 44 ISD/MODs? WTF why do they say "As the situation was getting out of control on the test server" then. if they cant handle that problems with 44 man i wonder how they made this game ..
and it was not because of some players there didn't follow the rules... just say it CCP... your severs are crap
you go and make a game of this size and magnatued (sp) and then run the test servers too.
Tbh im happy that SISI was taken down, so the real people what want to test/bug hunt can get on with it when it comes back up
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ratty Ratter I had plans too but CCP messed them up
i see 44 players online. thats 44 ISD/MODs? WTF why do they say "As the situation was getting out of control on the test server" then. if they cant handle that problems with 44 man i wonder how they made this game ..
and it was not because of some players there didn't follow the rules... just say it CCP... your severs are crap
Well let's not get out of the realm of the situation. While Sisi as a server does leave a bit to be desired, it wasn't originally made to handle 1000 people. A test server like that was only to hold the bare minimum. The one thing CCP has and always WILL have going for them are their servers.
If I am correct, their server/super "omgwtfpwn" computer that holds all of Eve is one of the TOP in the world. It is, in every sense, a super computer, holding a whole universe together with 400k in persistent players. So while this event may have failed, it wasn't so much to do with the servers as it did with a failure of moderation.
I'd not blame their hardware, for an MMO, it's the most advanced in the industry.
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jamaican herbs
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:56:00 -
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LOL CCP ACCIDENTLY THE WHOLE SISI
On a serious note, while shutting down sisi wasnt fair for the ppl who hadnt done anything wrong, it was the right decision. Also moar permabans for the ppl breaking rules in the future
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Qwert0
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:57:00 -
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TBH, you should receive a SISI permaban AND a week long TQ ban for your second violation of SISI rules.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:57:00 -
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It is unfortunate the servers had to be locked, though it is understandable. Might I suggest a new policy of a ban on SiSi also carry a 48 hour ban on TQ. Rules and laws are for those that don't want to behave for whatever reason. If the poor behavior continues, then increase the penalty until the ahats learn that SiSi shouldn't be abused.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Rebnok
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:58:00 -
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they should have just gave everyone like 10 m sp to put where you want, if that wouldnt be enough sp for you to be in a titan you have no reason to test one
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Susy Assulu
Caldari Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2009.10.11 16:59:00 -
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The asshatery on the test server has been increasing recently, I guess this is the climax or something :S
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Shirley Serious
Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:00:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1108193&page=1#3
The ISD bughunters can do some things, but for rulesbreaking and bans, it's CCP people that have to deal with it.
And CCP peoples job is looking at the problems that the bughunters have identified, and sorting them. Doing bans and things on the test server isn't their job, it's something they should only be doing in free time.
So, when you have so many people being silly, then players cant get things done, so can't submit bug reports, ISD can't deal with it, because they don't have the powers (And they shouldn't), and CCP people have other things that they should be doing (i.e. looking at the bits where a bug has been found and sorting them).
Taking CCP people off their normal job to referee the test server doesn't look like a productive use of their time.
Other than closing the test server, what else is realistically possible?
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rebnok they should have just gave everyone like 10 m sp to put where you want, if that wouldnt be enough sp for you to be in a titan you have no reason to test one
That might be a good idea. Or be able to request to have up to like... X ship skills, Y weapon skills and Z support skills for testing purposes. But not a ridiculous amount of stuff, because we don't want hordes of noob T2/3s wandering around. Ever.
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Rebnok
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rebnok on 11/10/2009 17:05:14 well i think they should give you 10m sp once a month or even every 4 months, it would help to stop alot of bugs from making tq and would help pilots to decide there training path. There would need to be some kinda upload of our own datalogs. I would be fine with that, anything to improve this game i care about
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Yafn
Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Well put, if your using SISI to get your "rocks off" and to "pew pew" then you are on the wrong server, many people was doing tests, and writing up reports. Today I had a fleet op planned with a few people in a low sec system, but this has put a stop on it.
If this is true then you are of a minority, The majority seem to use Sisi for the following:
1: ****ing off testers intentionally for kicks 2: Players using ships they would probably never be able to a afford on tq to play around in. 3: Especially on days like today, new players flying ships they will never probably have the isk or skills to fly ie Titans. "HOW DO I USE TITAN JUMP DRIVE???" is probably the best quote from this weekend to describe this. 4: People using Sisi to pvp on because they are so bad at it on tq where they actually lose money.
Tbh, if proper testers want to test in relative peace, they should sign up to be bughunters. Although I recognise that some people might not be comfortable with that.
Yup, many people seem to login to go out of their way to be annoying, and often the members of CCP who are logged in tend to feel the brunt of this.
Also with the events of the past 48hours, SISI has seen many players who was just there for the capitals, I admit I especially made this weekend free, to enjoy piloting the Titans, it's a one off chance from my standpoint. I did however take note to read guides on fitting, and piloting.
As for your final point (4) I cannot agree more, their is FFA beacons and yet it seems players cannot pvp so they sit at station and gank players leaving.
(Big credit to the guys who tried to help me protect the station from the gankers.)
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smokeydapot
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Bailey and when we suggest things/complain the devs run away and dont reply
This happend plenty of times altho it could have been client issues.
Also peoples ability to read the beacons does not help our case for the server let us start the name and shame:
smokeydapot > it says consent only for this beacon why you attack without it ??? Cornskull > who is attacking you smokey? Caldari Cylon > lo smokeydapot > Cymru Yama****a Cymru Yama****a > cos u shot dee dee smokeydapot > DeeDee Toole DeeDee Toole > :) smokeydapot > i shot no one Cornskull > /emote pokes deedee SnoopDizzle > smokey YOU shot first Cornskull > can I shoot smokey too? smokeydapot > again i shot no one
To this I say it is people like you that ended the test early and how did I shoot all the way from the kitchen grabbing a beer ???
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xOfDeath
Gallente Red-Soveriegn Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:14:00 -
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theres nothing wrong with using the test server to 'get your rocks off'
just dont be an asshat
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Rebnok
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:14:00 -
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and tbh we had test planned today and guess what the guys who were not close to titans wold have not helped our test,they were gonna use the ships needed for our test the titans were cool cause face it most of you and me ♥ we will never get one. but the test server is for surprise TEST!1!11
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Gomarrah
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:14:00 -
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is the test comming back? I took the weekend off work for this.
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Adnvari Nehal
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gomarrah is the test comming back? I took the weekend off work for this.
I wouldn't hold your breathe
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ArmyOfMe
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Siosk Baas
Originally by: axion laforge predictable tbh,,, the same thing seems to happen everytime they allow max skills on sisi,not sure what the solution would be other than to charge for the experiance, say a plex for a "ticket"
well they could simply go by character/account age, if your character isnt at least 2 years old you don't get on Singularity.
5 years and older only imo 
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Gomarrah
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: Siosk Baas
Originally by: axion laforge predictable tbh,,, the same thing seems to happen everytime they allow max skills on sisi,not sure what the solution would be other than to charge for the experiance, say a plex for a "ticket"
well they could simply go by character/account age, if your character isnt at least 2 years old you don't get on Singularity.
5 years and older only imo 
they did you all one better & said ISD only.
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Comodore John
Gallente Xennon Industria LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:27:00 -
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Can you allow those of us who are on the test server regularly to be on? Those of us on regularly are obviously not breaking rules (or we would've been banned already) and are providing feedback and not just fooling around.
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Private Bank
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Comodore John Can you allow those of us who are on the test server regularly to be on? Those of us on regularly are obviously not breaking rules (or we would've been banned already) and are providing feedback and not just fooling around.
would never happend. then the MOD's actually had to do some work instead of just closing the whole sever down, so they can get fast connect on sisi, just sitting there and playing fights vs each other
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Comodore John Can you allow those of us who are on the test server regularly to be on? Those of us on regularly are obviously not breaking rules (or we would've been banned already) and are providing feedback and not just fooling around.
Sounds good, and I like the idea, of approved trusted members being given access for important testing, however how would you "vet" new members onto SISI? I am fairly new to SISI and the testing sessions, so I doubt i'd fit into your new system 
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the teddybear
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:30:00 -
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aww man...i was going to beg my friend to let me fly his rare ship...ah well...atleast i know what cap ship im traning for. it was fun while it lastet, overall ill give the event an 8/10 no officer mods to make a realistic titan/supercarrier fit brought it down. after the events and in the time of titans online ill give it a 4/10 trying to hunt down ships to fly because FD- was too full for me to get them brought it down a lot, and the people who borke rules tho i didn't run into many, it was around 5 people which is around the avarage i find tho 3 of them broke rules in front of an ISD.
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Eternum Praetorian
Retribution. Inc. REIGN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:38:00 -
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I'm certain most people don't approve, I don't either.
But its not like I don't understand where CCP is coming from, it was getting kind of stupid in there. The vast majority of people were not testing anything. I had to actually get my own private group together to do anything serious.
Me personally, I never even hopped into a titan because I'm not interested in flying them. I tested the HAC's, Commands and Super carriers of all 4 races. By the end of last night, capital testing was a cluster of a dozen fools dueling in nothing but titans (That is not testing anything) and when I tried to fly to other beacons, I would get ganked by a micro blob of perfectly skilled Tech III's.
The exercise simply became pointless . . . however I'd bet ya 10 titans that if the ISD's started bringing down the ban hammer people would have fell in line at some point.
Thx for the opportunity CCP. I learned a hell of a lot 
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Ferdio Ricotez
Gallente Killer Carebears Greater Pathetic Community
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:44:00 -
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There still are people who need to learn access to the test server and helping in the debugging of new features is a privilege and not a right. I'd say take that privilege from anyone caught messing up the test.
Of course, there's the problem. If most people who were on the test server were involved with the messing up, taking the privilege of them all might pose a problem.
Then again, you can't restrict access before someone has proven he or she is not worthy of the privilege. There are plenty people out there who tried to log into the server with the best intentions possible, wanting to test out the supercarriers, but who are now the victims of a bunch of brainless "OMG TESTSERVER" griefers.
I for one am disappointed in the EVE playerbase, which appears to be on average less adult than I originally imagined. -----
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