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Yafn Robbing You of Your Space Pixels	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:02:00 - [61] Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much.
3rdTimeLucky	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:03:00 - [62] Ha, and after I moved right across the other side of EVE from FD; I hope it's back online soon so I can get back to testing.
Anslo The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Yafn Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. And you seem to have an inability to understand english. How are these ISD, GMs etc etc paid? Through our subscription money. Part of their job WOULD be to mod Sisi. Ever heard of "There's no such thing as a free lunch?" Same applies here, it looks like they're doing it for free, but in truth they are not. Please get out :)
Scrapyard Attendant	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Yafn Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. may i ask how you found this clever notion of its their free time out? i thought they were on in work hours alot :/ (ive been on sisi 6 months +)
Chris Bailey	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:04:00 - [65] and when we suggest things/complain the devs run away and dont reply
Dark Flare Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:05:00 - [66] Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. And you seem to have an inability to understand english. How are these ISD, GMs etc etc paid? Through our subscription money. Part of their job WOULD be to mod Sisi. Ever heard of "There's no such thing as a free lunch?" Same applies here, it looks like they're doing it for free, but in truth they are not. Please get out :) PROTIP: ISD is voluntary. You understand what that word means right?
Yafn Robbing You of Your Space Pixels	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Scrapyard Attendant may i ask how you found this clever notion of its their free time out? Apart from the core testserver-operations team, any other ccp/gm/isd are doing it out of the free time and are not paid for working on the test server. Its been said on this forum multiple time over the years.
Project CareBears	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:12:00 - [68] Edited by: Project CareBears on 11/10/2009 16:14:05 so you close the sever for everybody instead of banning the players there eject 200 ships? wth is the point. some of us do it for testing stuff. please open again, i think the bad guys learned the lesion oh well this is what i pay 30Ç for every month... plex cards here i come -.-
Adnvari Nehal	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:14:00 - [69] Originally by: Project CareBears so you close the sever for everybody instead of banning the players there eject 200 ships? wth is the point. some of us do it for testing stuff. please open again, i think the bad guys learned the lesion i highly doubt that they did.
Blueaise	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:14:00 - [70] before we all get into a mass nerdrage about having our shiny taken away and why we think we are entitled to xyz lets stop for a minute and think about what is important. 1: sisi is important because they havent finished balancing the changes yet, the numbers are up in the air, we have this one opportunity to influence the devs to actually make changes that don't nerf everything to oblivion and cause mass emoragequitting on the 2nd december. 2: testing is actually a serious business. for all the arsehattery and wanting to test how uber your fitting skills are, the real purpose of sisi is to test genuine game balance scenarios on the changes and expose any big bugs that will cause real problems on your important, fee paid subscription. 3: the sort of behaviour that went on at sisi was like 4 year olds at playgroup with no adults, it really was utterly pathetic, for all the noobz in titans were forgetting that sisi isnt what you pay your subscription for - its actually a test facility for CCP's QA team, you are there by invitation not by paid right. as pointed out most test servers are closed for inhouse QA teams and registered approved volunteers. 4: You can either asshat around on sisi ganking to hell and back, or you can try and do something constructive that helps you, and CCP develop a product that is better for everyone. simply raging because you cant have everything your own way is not going to achieve anything but getting public access to sisi closed permenantly to the detriment of the opportunity to provide useful player feedback pre-nerfbat. with l5's for all this was bound to happen, people who have bothered spending time skilling for supercaps have a vested interest in testing changes that directly effect their gameplay and the value of their alliances 70bn ships, 3 month old noobz DD ganking on station test nothing other than the ability to be a asshat when there is no personal loss involved. Its a shame this happened, a lot of good could have come out of this weekend, but as usual a bunch of idiots has ruined it for the majority, now istead of raging against CCP i suggest you understand there are actual proper volunteer BH and testers who do have real work to get on with pre-dominion and therefore if people en-mass are going to break rules and stop that happening then CCP has a right as stated in the rules to shut access. its said that so many spoilt kids can't just grow up and act responsibly, and treat CCP and its employees with a bit more respect especially the ISD volunteers who do actually give up their game time to help improve Eve. Seriously guys, i would like to know whatever copyshop/dunkin/donuts/7-11 some of you work at and come and rage at you for your lack of service/whatever as much as you do on these forums and see how you enjoy it ffs. I'm sad about it, a lot of sisi regulars are very UH about it, as suggested elsewhere if anyone wants to start a name and shame list of sisi asshats for tranq punishment, lets get it on.

Carniflex Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:16:00 - [71] I think it would be good if bans in SiSi for being an ass would extend to TQ also. Ar at veryvery least - make SiSi bans permanent for SiSi.
Anslo The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:19:00 - [72] Originally by: Dark Flare PROTIP: ISD is voluntary. You understand what that word means right? Then how about CCP employees and the GM's hm? Besides, you don't just get ISD by saying "OOOH MEMEMME!" You have to prove you can really bring something to the table. It's like a rather competitive job. So, if these "amazing" volunteers were accepted as ISD members, why didn't they do the job they volunteered for? Should they actually have ISD then?
DuncuK Gallente 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:19:00 - [73] Very disappointing. I'd like to see the server reopened soon.
xOfDeath Gallente Red-Soveriegn Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:19:00 - [74] well i totally support the decision to close the test server to the public maybe itll make the noobs not abiding by the rules wake up and start acting like decent EVEians (probably not though, ban hammer has been proven as the most effective treatment against noobies)
Adnvari Nehal	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:21:00 - [75] Well said Blueaise, I don't think I could have said it better.
Butalus	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:23:00 - [76] Originally by: Blueaise before we all get into a mass nerdrage about having our shiny taken away and why we think we are entitled to xyz lets stop for a minute and think about what is important. 1: sisi is important because they havent finished balancing the changes yet, the numbers are up in the air, we have this one opportunity to influence the devs to actually make changes that don't nerf everything to oblivion and cause mass emoragequitting on the 2nd december. 2: testing is actually a serious business. for all the arsehattery and wanting to test how uber your fitting skills are, the real purpose of sisi is to test genuine game balance scenarios on the changes and expose any big bugs that will cause real problems on your important, fee paid subscription. 3: the sort of behaviour that went on at sisi was like 4 year olds at playgroup with no adults, it really was utterly pathetic, for all the noobz in titans were forgetting that sisi isnt what you pay your subscription for - its actually a test facility for CCP's QA team, you are there by invitation not by paid right. as pointed out most test servers are closed for inhouse QA teams and registered approved volunteers. 4: You can either asshat around on sisi ganking to hell and back, or you can try and do something constructive that helps you, and CCP develop a product that is better for everyone. simply raging because you cant have everything your own way is not going to achieve anything but getting public access to sisi closed permenantly to the detriment of the opportunity to provide useful player feedback pre-nerfbat. with l5's for all this was bound to happen, people who have bothered spending time skilling for supercaps have a vested interest in testing changes that directly effect their gameplay and the value of their alliances 70bn ships, 3 month old noobz DD ganking on station test nothing other than the ability to be a asshat when there is no personal loss involved. Its a shame this happened, a lot of good could have come out of this weekend, but as usual a bunch of idiots has ruined it for the majority, now istead of raging against CCP i suggest you understand there are actual proper volunteer BH and testers who do have real work to get on with pre-dominion and therefore if people en-mass are going to break rules and stop that happening then CCP has a right as stated in the rules to shut access. its said that so many spoilt kids can't just grow up and act responsibly, and treat CCP and its employees with a bit more respect especially the ISD volunteers who do actually give up their game time to help improve Eve. Seriously guys, i would like to know whatever copyshop/dunkin/donuts/7-11 some of you work at and come and rage at you for your lack of service/whatever as much as you do on these forums and see how you enjoy it ffs. I'm sad about it, a lot of sisi regulars are very UH about it, as suggested elsewhere if anyone wants to start a name and shame list of sisi asshats for tranq punishment, lets get it on. Totally right <3 for closing the server Shoelace just for the pure lol factor.
Ivanna Nuke Daralux	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:23:00 - [77] Originally by: xOfDeath well i totally support the decision to close the test server to the public maybe itll make the noobs not abiding by the rules wake up and start acting like decent EVEians (probably not though, ban hammer has been proven as the most effective treatment against noobies) This. I agree, myself and 8 others last night was trying to keep the peace around the station, but to little avail. Good move CCP, shame you give people some fun, and they act like pillocks.
Adnvari Nehal	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:26:00 - [78] Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Dark Flare PROTIP: ISD is voluntary. You understand what that word means right? Then how about CCP employees and the GM's hm? Besides, you don't just get ISD by saying "OOOH MEMEMME!" You have to prove you can really bring something to the table. It's like a rather competitive job. So, if these "amazing" volunteers were accepted as ISD members, why didn't they do the job they volunteered for? Should they actually have ISD then? First of all, ISD is the overall volunteer program. The ISD members on the server are the bughunters, thier job is to find, reproduce and report bugs found in game not to babysit wannabe pod pilots who can't behave. And yea Ivanna, I remember you out there helping out the BH. :) Nice job btw
3strikes	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:28:00 - [79] i can see the logic behind the decision, but the punish everyone for the mistakes of a few is a bit out of hand. it's pretty unfair to those who weren't doing anything wrong
Ivanna Nuke Daralux	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:28:00 - [80] Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 11/10/2009 16:28:56 Originally by: Adnvari Nehal Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Dark Flare -minor snip to save page space- And yea Ivanna, I remember you out there helping out the BH. :) Nice job btw Thanks, and a big thanks to the guys who helped keep myself and my mates fueled up.( you know who you are ! )

Wanna Kill Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:30:00 - [81] haha this thread is ***ing incredible. you people are the same guys who whine when you dont win in draws ccp, my whole WEEKEND has been RUINED because I cannot connect to the test* server. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO ----------
xOfDeath Gallente Red-Soveriegn Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:30:00 - [82] Edited by: xOfDeath on 11/10/2009 16:31:31 Originally by: 3strikes i can see the logic behind the decision, but the punish everyone for the mistakes of a few is a bit out of hand. it's pretty unfair to those who weren't doing anything wrong meh its what i would have done Originally by: Wanna Kill haha this thread is ***ing incredible. you people are the same guys who whine when you dont win in draws ccp, my whole WEEKEND has been RUINED because I cannot connect to the test* server. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO people like you are exactly the kind that ruined it. raging at ccp telling them that they suck etc
Dreae	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:31:00 - [83] Edited by: Dreae on 11/10/2009 16:33:12 Originally by: Yafn Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. Originally by: Anslo In a sense, we do pay for it. It comes with paying for TQ. Without an active TQ account, no Sisi. So for all those buggers out there saying "Stop whining we're not paying for it," kindly shut up. We are paying for it, indirectly, but we are. Bolded the important part of his post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:36:00 - [84] Edited by: Blane Xero on 11/10/2009 16:35:53 Originally by: Dreae Edited by: Dreae on 11/10/2009 16:33:12 Originally by: Yafn Originally by: Anslo Originally by: Yafn 1: You are NOT paying for the right to be on the test server, it is moderated mostly by GM's, ISD and CCP emploees with free time on their hands. CCP knew this was going to be a big event, they should have prepared for it with more mods. Bolded the important part of my post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. Originally by: Anslo In a sense, we do pay for it. It comes with paying for TQ. Without an active TQ account, no Sisi. So for all those buggers out there saying "Stop whining we're not paying for it," kindly shut up. We are paying for it, indirectly, but we are. Bolded the important part of his post which you failed to read because you were frothing over your keyboard too much. So what you are saying is that if Sisi suddenly disappeared our subscription would be cheaper? No, it wouldn't. So no, we aren't paying for sisi. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
ViRUS Pottage Caldari THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:36:00 - [85] So instead of banning them you decide to punish us all. Thanks. Find your bugs yourself. _________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
Ivanna Nuke Daralux	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:38:00 - [86] Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 11/10/2009 16:38:21 Originally by: ViRUS Pottage So instead of banning them you decide to punish us all. Thanks. Find your bugs yourself. CCP have more to do that monitor SISI for rule breakers, it's weekend, and many of them have a personal life and families to take care of. I hope the skills remain, and that we can continue on tomorrow when I suspect CCP will be better staffed.
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:38:00 - [87] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage So instead of banning them you decide to punish us all. Thanks. Find your bugs yourself. CCP, I have caught one in a quotebox! Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
icky vicky	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:39:00 - [88] Eve is a nasty place deal with it
Elsa Nietzsche	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:42:00 - [89] I get the feeling that a lot of the people on here rageposting have a very wrong view on the purpose of Sisi. In that light, I am also in agreement that CCP did the right thing in just shutting it down. Hopefully when the smoke clears, the ragers will go back to TQ and the testers can get back to Sisi.
ViRUS Pottage Caldari THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.	Posted - 2009.10.11 16:43:00 - [90] Originally by: Sir Dancealot Originally by: ViRUS Pottage So instead of banning them you decide to punish us all. Thanks. Find your bugs yourself. CCP, I have caught one in a quotebox! It's not a box. _________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?



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