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smokeydapot
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:45:00 -
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Altho the ISD's have no ban ability they could have done a bit more, they have move ability right ?
Move the fools to a system 40 + jumps away to let those that went to test get on with testing.
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Shirley Serious
Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: smokeydapot Altho the ISD's have no ban ability they could have done a bit more, they have move ability right ?
Move the fools to a system 40 + jumps away to let those that went to test get on with testing.
They are not allowed to move anyone, except to FD-MLJ
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:47:00 -
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I think the ability to move players isn't as easy as right click > move, they need to run some sort of script, so they'd need to add the trouble makers to some sort of list and then go through whatever script running process is required to move players.
Probably wouldn't be an instant thing, which is why they only do it at intervals when you are in the moveme channel. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |

smokeydapot
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Posted - 2009.10.11 17:50:00 -
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was just an idea.....
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Krystal Flores
Amarr Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:09:00 -
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ccp, some of us were accualy testing stuff. [clipshow]
Originally by: Blueaise
The real purpose of sisi is to test genuine game balance scenarios on the changes and expose any big bugs that will cause real problems on your important, fee paid subscription.
I agree.
Originally by: Blueaise
3: the sort of behaviour that went on at sisi was like 4 year olds at playgroup with no adults.
"HOW DO I USE TITAN JUMP DRIVE???" and there was another one about seige. If they dont know how to use it they shouldnt get to.
Originally by: Yafn
4: People using Sisi to pvp on because they are so bad at it on tq where they actually lose money.
For alot of ppl this is true
Originally by: Blueaise
4: You can either asshat around on sisi ganking to hell and back, or you can try and do something constructive that helps you, and CCP develop a product that is better for everyone. simply raging because you cant have everything your own way is not going to achieve anything but getting public access to sisi closed permenantly to the detriment of the opportunity to provide useful player feedback pre-nerfbat.
Its a shame this happened, a lot of good could have come out of this weekend, but as usual a bunch of idiots has ruined it for the majority, now istead of raging against CCP i suggest you understand there are actual proper volunteer BH and testers who do have real work to get on with pre-dominion and therefore if people en-mass are going to break rules and stop that happening then CCP has a right as stated in the rules to shut access.
should of Baned rulebreakers en-mass; but idk if they can
Originally by: Blueaise
its said that so many spoilt kids can't just grow up and act responsibly, and treat CCP and its employees with a bit more respect especially the ISD volunteers who do actually give up their game time to help improve Eve. Seriously guys, i would like to know whatever copyshop/dunkin/donuts/7-11 some of you work at and come and rage at you for your lack of service/whatever as much as you do on these forums and see how you enjoy it ffs.
Well the service @ccp is better than with other companies.
Originally by: Blueaise I'm sad about it, a lot of sisi regulars are very UH about it, as suggested elsewhere if anyone wants to start a name and shame list of sisi asshats for tranq punishment, lets get it on.
Im glad i gtfo of fd asap.
Originally by: anslo
Well let's not get out of the realm of the situation. While Sisi as a server does leave a bit to be desired, it wasn't originally made to handle 1000 people. A test server like that was only to hold the bare minimum. The one thing CCP has and always WILL have going for them are their servers.
they saw the overflow of people the should of put it in RF.
Originally by: anslo
If I am correct, their server/super "omgwtfpwn" computer that holds all of Eve is one of the TOP in the world. It is, in every sense, a super computer, holding a whole universe together with 400k in persistent players. So while this event may have failed, it wasn't so much to do with the servers as it did with a failure of moderation.
That is the TQ cluster
Originally by: Commander Ventura the test server is a windows 98 laptop with a cat 3 ethernet cable sat in a dark corner of the ccp office .....
Well not really but its close [/clipshow]
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splendidzje
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rebnok they should have just gave everyone like 10 m sp to put where you want, if that wouldnt be enough sp for you to be in a titan you have no reason to test one
This. Awesome idea, seriously.
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Schayol Sunkeeper
Imperial Crusade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: splendidzje
Originally by: Rebnok they should have just gave everyone like 10 m sp to put where you want, if that wouldnt be enough sp for you to be in a titan you have no reason to test one
This. Awesome idea, seriously.
+1
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smokeydapot
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Bastana I think the ability to move players isn't as easy as right click > move, they need to run some sort of script, so they'd need to add the trouble makers to some sort of list and then go through whatever script running process is required to move players.
Probably wouldn't be an instant thing, which is why they only do it at intervals when you are in the moveme channel.
Im not sure how they do it ( script or what ) but if a GM can move me to a station by accident that sugests its not that hard.
Quote from pertition:
Originally by: GM I appologize for moving you into a station just now GM 2009.10.06
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:27:00 -
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Actually, I think ISD BH can move you to the system they are in. It's just a matter of having permission to do so.
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Siosk Baas
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:31:00 -
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I would just move the trouble makes to the other side of the universe. Preferably in high sec so they couldn't use thier titans anymore :P
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Siosk Baas I would just move the trouble makes to the other side of the universe. Preferably in high sec so they couldn't use thier titans anymore :P
Nah move them to a 10/10 Sleeper complex, and remove the fuel from their cargo bays.
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MJ Maverick
IronPig Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Krypton VI isn't that your duty to maintain a rule abiding adherence to the rules as opposed to rage quiting tactics?
Yeah err, ban them?
Surly there is some kind of dev/GM function that allows you to quickly right click and ban. --------------------
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Comodore John
Gallente Xennon Industria LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Siosk Baas I would just move the trouble makes to the other side of the universe. Preferably in high sec so they couldn't use thier titans anymore :P
What if they only redeemed one or two of their titans? They could easily dock and redeem the rest and just sit by themselves.
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Comodore John
Originally by: Siosk Baas I would just move the trouble makes to the other side of the universe. Preferably in high sec so they couldn't use thier titans anymore :P
What if they only redeemed one or two of their titans? They could easily dock and redeem the rest and just sit by themselves.
If they was in wormhole space, they'd be the definition of buggered.
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Siosk Baas
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Originally by: Siosk Baas I would just move the trouble makes to the other side of the universe. Preferably in high sec so they couldn't use thier titans anymore :P
Nah move them to a 10/10 Sleeper complex, and remove the fuel from their cargo bays.
hahah i like that even better
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Cracken
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:43:00 -
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It used too be bughunters and isd were god on sisi you broke the rules you got banned period.
Ashattery like launching millions of frigs dumping drones etc. got you banned.
defending yourself against a station camping ganker was allowed anyway the one who started that fight usually got a ban.
The interesting thing is the ban was usually for 6months+ which meant most people behaved.
I only got a about an hour too test the changes too the super caps before the server went down last night and was hoping too get back on this morning too get some more testing done but no luck what so ever.
Then they had too take the server down because of r tards who can't follow simple rules.
it would have been nice too test the faction ships with all level 5's too see what the limit of their power with a t2 fitting was.
I do like the nyx's new role it fits very well though I have too come up with a slightly better fitting .
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente In Vacuo Ops
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:51:00 -
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Punishing the many for the transgressions of the few is not a good policy.
I managed to get a bit of testing done thankfully.
Booting off your core group of legit testers by lumping them into the "troublemaker" group by default is a poor show.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.10.11 18:53:00 -
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is this middle school?
"alright class, Bobby and Steve were misbehaving so every one has to stay in for lunch."
honestly CCP just ban the asshats that were breaking the rules and let the rest of us do some meaningful testing.
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Adam Ridgway
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:00:00 -
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You morons don't get it, right? CCP has only this much manpower to babysit idiots.
So idiots win today, but I hope everyone petitions with proof and these idiots get PERMABANNED other day when they cna spare some time.
Permanban mean no more Sisi ever for them.
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Rhohan
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith Punishing the many for the transgressions of the few is not a good policy.
I managed to get a bit of testing done thankfully.
Booting off your core group of legit testers by lumping them into the "troublemaker" group by default is a poor show.
I got some good testing done as well, away from FD of course. I had some more to do with a specific bug I was working on, but it looks like all the work I put into that is out the window.
They just need to ban people on TQ as well as Sisi.
Next mirror Sisi ban gets you 30 day ban on TQ. Perma ban on Sisi gets you a 3 month ban on TQ. Maybe 6 month, but that could be pushing it.
Just banning people on Sisi does nothing for the most part. Most of the ones being stupid only come on once in a while anyways.
CCP, your fitting service on Titans is bugged. Maybe something to do with weapon grouping. Didn't get a chance to narrow it down. I had both long range and short range weapons fitted in the same slot. When I removed the single slot, two weapon mods would pop into cargo. Figure it out and file a bug, unless it is already known.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:07:00 -
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this could be easily alleviated by making Sisi useful as a test platform 365 days of the year instead of 2 days here and there.
Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:08:00 -
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Triage module wasn't consuming Stront either. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dramaticus this could be easily alleviated by making Sisi useful as a test platform 365 days of the year instead of 2 days here and there.
SISI has been stated by CCP many many times to be a place to test, not to tryout. If people could just login to SISI, and fly Titans, TQ would be empty.
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TerrorSquadMF
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:14:00 -
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u know what would be a good idea? have the test server for finding bugs! ahh big surprize! and ahve a offline mode where people can have their all lvl 5 skills and capitol ships to blow up, problem solved, well not really cause some1 is going to say i'm an idoit.
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Peryner
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:18:00 -
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I can understand the rational here.
Nuke it from orbit! it's the only way to know for sure :P
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Daquaris
I.M.M Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Project CareBears Edited by: Project CareBears on 11/10/2009 16:14:05 so you close the sever for everybody instead of banning the players there eject 200 ships? wth is the point. some of us do it for testing stuff. please open again, i think the bad guys learned the lesion
oh well this is what i pay 30Ç for every month... plex cards here i come -.-
No, you pay 30Ç a month to play on TQ.
Additionally, it does not matter how you pay, 'cause *someone* has to buy the plex cards to supply them to you, so CCP still gets money for your sub.
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Elsa Nietzsche well it was fun while it lasted. Now we'll probably have to go though some kind of approval process to be able to get on the test server. 
I think thats a great idea.
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TamiyaCowboy
Caldari HTA Holdings Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:32:00 -
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personaly i would have liked those that fly titans on TQ too have them on sisi, everyone else tough luck train it on tq.
it is fair but unjust to punnish myself even thou i had not broken any rules on sisi ( ok once and dev healed to 0 in seconds).
i there for ask if i tami can use server for my own personal testing without hostile acts towards others.
but i stand by THOSE THAT FLY TITANS ON TQ MAY USE THEM IN SISI TO, the others can train like most do on tq untill they fly titans.
also NO MORE ALL LVL5 SKILLS, this is wrong i feel. i am happy with my 55 mill sp on sisi and did not want all lvl5. i also found it pathetic that pilots moaning in wierdwhale's chanel that they had no all lvl5 skills and demanding they recieved them. these pilots are not part of the comunity eve knows
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Jana Tanaka
Caldari Tanaka Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jana Tanaka on 11/10/2009 19:46:18 I was able to test a leviathan and an avatar against some other super capitals and then the avatars turrets performance against a battleship in different scenarios.
This only worked after i brought an alt account online , since everyone and their brother (99%) insisted on sitting in titans pounding each other to crap for hours long in unrealistic situations.
Pew.. pew.. nothing as boring as capital fights...
I would suggest for the next time to employ more ISD organized/supervised test environments (cap vs. cap, cap. vs. bs ...). Simply ban capital & supercapital use on test outside those organized events.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Originally by: Dramaticus this could be easily alleviated by making Sisi useful as a test platform 365 days of the year instead of 2 days here and there.
SISI has been stated by CCP many many times to be a place to test, not to tryout. If people could just login to SISI, and fly Titans, TQ would be empty.
this 'TQ would be empty' line of thinking is insanely dumb. no other MMO has this problem and it wouldn't magically occur here.
Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |
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