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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:12:00 -
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well he will take a word like risk and take it literally not what the peron is meaning and then argue from there... you see in his sig he writes if you are not willing to fight then you dont deserve and since he is a station char this is his version of pvp and will fight for maintaining the status quo becuse it suites him PLEX FOR PIZZA!
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Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
781
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:13:00 -
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In reply to the OP: It's about as likely as carebears becoming the next gankers.
TL;DR: /thread. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
92
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:14:00 -
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Arcturis Achasse wrote:For my conclusion i would like to state that Tippa is the scum of the universe If you're going to do something, might as well do it right.
Quote:Also suicide gankers suck That's not a nice thing to say at all. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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baltec1
1421
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:14:00 -
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So what are we talking about now? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So what are we talking about now?
why they call them french fries when we all know it was Belgium that made them first... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
tech III industrial ships! |
Arcturis Achasse
World Forge Industries Engineers of Fate
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:18:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Arcturis Achasse wrote:For my conclusion i would like to state that Tippa is the scum of the universe If you're going to do something, might as well do it right. Quote:Also suicide gankers suck That's not a nice thing to say at all.
Go Big or Go Home |
baltec1
1421
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:18:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:baltec1 wrote:So what are we talking about now? why they call them french fries when we all know it was Belgium that made them first...
Ah Belgium, a nation created for Britain and Germany to sort out their differences. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:27:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Incorrect. That only means they are low skilled players who don't have what it takes to fight. GǪso they mitigate the risks they have to take.
SetrakDark wrote:Tippia? More like Tippiowned, amirite? Kind of, but for different reasons. I'm usually always Tippis, but it was taken so I had to go for plan GÇ£aGÇ¥ instead. Late-comerowned.
Aldeskwatso wrote:For arguments sake lets assume [GǪ]
Then what? It would still actually be insignificant and meaningless being the oppinion of one person. Just you. No. Let's not assume. Let's get some actual examples of what you're referring to. Since this topic is the latest rage on the forums, you really should have no problems finding some if they common enough to warrant calling gankers carebears because they don't follow some ethos you've assigned to them.
Quote:Besides, skipping the "what if"? You should read back a little. It's there. No, because you keep making claims about their assertions and then build on them GÇö there is no GÇ£what ifGÇ¥ about those claims.
By the way, speaking of skipping, did you notice that your question was answered? Do you have any comment on that answer?
Arcturis Achasse wrote:Tippa (or whatever the **** her name is) drew all attention away from the original topic at every opportunity, drawing attention to how OP started his argument and how other people posting on this thread are misinterpreting words and ideals. Is reading really that hard? If it is, is copy-pasting really that hard? It's an internet forum. How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.
Anyway, your problem is that in focusing all your attention on me questioning the basis for the OP's claims and questions, I also answered said question. I'm also answering GÇ£muGÇ¥ to a classic loaded question. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪso they mitigate the risks they have to take.
About that "mining is risk free"...
Tippia wrote:How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.
Drop is easier to pronounce and it fits better to your posts. |
Arcturis Achasse
World Forge Industries Engineers of Fate
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.
Drop is easier to pronounce and it fits better to your posts.[/quote]
This
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:21:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:About that "mining is risk free"... GǪand it is if you manage your risks. Until you do, gankers and the like provide the risk it should have.
Quote:Drop is easier to pronounce and it fits better to your posts. It's also incorrect, but I suppose that seeing as how I make the penny drop for so many on topics where they were woefully misinformed, it is indeed quite appropriate.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:26:00 -
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the smug is strong with this one... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
tech III industrial ships! |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand it is if you manage your risks. Until you do, gankers and the like provide the risk it should have.
In case you skipped it for some reason: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1459263#post1459263 |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
727
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:49:00 -
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Holy crap son. Please stop posting the same topic over and over and over again, this is getting boring. "Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
Lord Zim
785
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:55:00 -
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No. You will read about suicide gankers and how local ruins EVE until you relent and remove them both, and you will like it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:06:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:No. You will read about suicide gankers and how local ruins EVE until you relent and remove them both, and you will like it. Local ruins EVE is a fact, the WH people said so... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Chevere del'Alma
Solarise Flares SpaceMonkey's Alliance
10
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:31:00 -
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Aldeskwatso wrote:Based on the responses to this topic alone I guess most people on this forum as of now disagree because the act of suicide ganking alone does not condemn other accomplishments.
That isn't true, the people that get killed, get kill rights on the gankers. On top of that you get a sec status hit, which eventually means you can't fly through high sec safely.
BTW mining in null sec is more lukerative, and safer. I used to mine, and I did my first gank a few days ago. I even got 2 day old players to do it. To be honest ganking teaches new players how to play game. The easy of killing others, and getting killed is easily shown, and eve is ALL about PVP, from mining, to market trading, you are always competing against someone.
Why eve is great!
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:33:00 -
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Chevere del'Alma wrote:That isn't true, the people that get killed, get kill rights on the gankers. Not if they're "clever" and mine with their drones out.
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Khayyam
L'AGENCE Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.12 10:32:00 -
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I just want to say to high-sec miners :
MINE IN COVETOR!
No gankers will attack you and what will you lost? around 10% of yield How far it is from a 300M hulk? And if you loose it, that's the cost of one hour of veldspar mining!
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2586
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:04:00 -
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Excellent OP.
+1 LIKE for a good concise summary and very astute observation.
Definitely a lot more truthful than what the players advocating it would have others believe.
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Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
621
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:07:00 -
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Suicide gankers I have to agree are like little girls with a spreadsheet mentality to EVE achievements. But moreso pathetic that they operate under broken bounty hunter mechanics which would be one obvious nominal risk element afforded to the criminal contigent outside of their spreadsheet calulations, if it was actually effective. So yes they obviously like it safe if they are resistant to seeing the BH system repaired so an interesting analogy to draw about gamer mentalities even if the definition is indifferent to the purposes.
Anyhow .....
Quote:For PvP and like to encourage more of it? Or perhaps you are an industrialist with a specific focus in game not directly concerned with PvP skilling to be effective at your role and therefore ineffective to apply teeth in response to criminal activities?
Want to validate a potential Career path in GëívGëí with new income potential that is ideally designed as simply a transferance of ISK from one pilot to another?
Actually like situations where ships shoot back and "really" improve your KB resume as opposed to simply suprising soft industrial targets?
You agree that pilots should adapt to challenging situations in GëívGëí where acceptance of risk is an everyday seperator of those getting ahead on the curve, criminals included, to ensure the game evolves instead of being kept dumbed down?
Or simply want to make GëívGëí less boring with adding more fun and challenging gameplay elements?
Would like to see CCP finally correct a long standing broken mechanic in the game which at best provides an exploit for the effected criminal party to profit further from and yet has been left in the game still?
Support: Bounty Hunting for CSM7.
CCP Design panel wrote: "It's going to be awesome."
"It's absolutley on the list of things to do."
"We have a spaceships game, but you can't be han solo or boba fett, that's not clever."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_pLi1J9YrkM#t=1199s
Bounty Hunting for CSM7 |
Lord Zim
788
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:10:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:So yes they obviously like it safe if they are resistant to seeing the BH system repaired By all means, point out who's been "resistant to seeing the BH system repaired". |
baltec1
1432
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:15:00 -
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Khayyam wrote:I just want to say to high-sec miners :
MINE IN COVETOR!
No gankers will attack you and what will you lost? around 10% of yield How far it is from a 300M hulk? And if you loose it, that's the cost of one hour of veldspar mining!
You can also tank them vs a destroyer or two meaning most of them will pass you by |
baltec1
1432
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:18:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Suicide gankers I have to agree are like little girls with a spreadsheet mentality to EVE achievements. But moreso pathetic that they operate under broken bounty hunter mechanics which would be one obvious nominal risk element afforded to the criminal contigent outside of their spreadsheet calulations, if it was actually effective. So yes they obviously like it safe if they are resistant to seeing the BH system repaired so an interesting analogy to draw about gamer mentalities even if the definition is indifferent to the purposes.
Very very few gankers dont want to see a good working BH system. My can flipping alt would love to have a good BH system in place as it means more victims for my iteron V. |
RAP ACTION HERO
61
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Posted - 2012.06.12 11:58:00 -
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hey i am gonna post some magic psychology here, if i call them carebears they will stop ganking |
Arcturis Achasse
World Forge Industries Engineers of Fate
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:29:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:hey i am gonna post some magic psychology here, if i call them carebears they will stop ganking
Genius! |
Frederick Sanger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:35:00 -
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Aldeskwatso wrote: Would you agree that if miners adapted succesfully to the changes suicide gankers bring on in high sec that their arguments for calling them carebares are invalid and that if suicide gankers continue to engage in this low risk, low skill activity it makes them actually look like more of a carebear then their victims?
Nope. |
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