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Talon Jasra
Gallente
Salvage and Mining Consortium
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:12:00 -
[91]
Great, just great, I go away for 10 days or so, and comeback to find out my stuff in Providence maybe lost to me. I hope it is indeed a hack, or some other dastardly act in violations of the EULA =\
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:14:00 -
[92]
Well it looks like they're having their sov returned and alliance reinstated. According to the CAOD thread anyway.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
 Originally by: CCP Fallout
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Umytbnxt
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:29:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Umytbnxt on 29/10/2009 11:29:59
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fooMiNiOn
Space Lobsters
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:46:00 -
[94]
It was exciting today TBH. Like someone said earlier, that it would be hard to admit this type of stupid hack adds excitement... well, for me it's true, not afraid to admit it.
We all knew everything was going to be just fine. The difference people are not thinking about is this. BOB's break up was ultimately up to players, corps, etc. To run and leave in all directions. CVA has been around a LONG time, and is going nowhere. We did however see something shocking, a red was able to dock!
Other than that, security was tight, it was a long op, but it was a damn rush for me to step up and show what we're made of. Believe it or not everyone, we are a tightly knit group of a variety of corp's containing acquaintances, and FRIENDS.
FCON [Space Lobsters] Co-CEO Fleet Admiral & head diplomat |
Azrael Acid
Gallente
Space Lobsters
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:48:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Azrael Acid on 29/10/2009 11:50:25
HERE HERE! We on again for tomorrow? If we roll like this every day, then hackers and reds beware...
[S.L] Director/Bar Wench/Intelligence Officer
" The only way evil can prevail, is when good men do nothing." |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.10.29 12:02:00 -
[96]
Just noticed from forum post, that CVA seems to have been restored in name at least. Congrats on getting things sorted out so quickly.
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khendro
Caldari
Unholy Asylum
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:14:00 -
[97]
so how would they have "hacked"?
All i can think of is that they either gave the wrong guy access to alliance controls or one of their higher ups was stupid enough to share his loging/password with the wrong person.
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Hull Blaster
Gallente
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:15:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Hull Blaster on 29/10/2009 13:17:14
Glad to see that you guys are getting your sov and Alliance reinstated. I can't imagine how bad it would be, to log on and see that years of work destroyed by a hacker.
I like the idea of "corporate espionage" and all that, its part of the game. However, I really do think that there needs to be some kind of cooldown timer on the disband function, or at least a majority vote in the most senior posts. If there isn't, well the cylons told us already... All this has happened before, and will happen again. 
Edit: @ Khendro, mate everyone can be the victim of keyloggers and spyware. Everyone lets their guard down from time to time, just a case of bad luck. Saying that, not a bad idea to change your log in password every month or so. Especially if your in a position of power like that!
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Dragonwell
Tactical Trading Partnership
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:26:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hull Blaster
Edited by: Hull Blaster on 29/10/2009 13:17:14
Glad to see that you guys are getting your sov and Alliance reinstated. I can't imagine how bad it would be, to log on and see that years of work destroyed by a hacker.
I like the idea of "corporate espionage" and all that, its part of the game. However, I really do think that there needs to be some kind of cooldown timer on the disband function, or at least a majority vote in the most senior posts. If there isn't, well the cylons told us already... All this has happened before, and will happen again.
Edit: @ Khendro, mate everyone can be the victim of keyloggers and spyware. Everyone lets their guard down from time to time, just a case of bad luck. Saying that, not a bad idea to change your log in password every month or so. Especially if your in a position of power like that!
More or less this.
To see one of the cornerstones of EVE's alliance history and backdrop vaporize due to a keylogging attack would be abhorrent.
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Awake in a Space-Dye Vest
Struggling with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Falling Into Infinity toward a New Millennium
While trapped inside this Octavarium. |
Night Epoch
Distant Light Galactic
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.10.29 14:01:00 -
[100]
CVA has been officially reinstated and all sovereignty was restored before the end of downtime (meaning they never actually lost an inch of space throughout this whole ordeal).
o7 CVA, and many thanks to CCP for the quick response.
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RedLion
Caldari
State Constructions
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Posted - 2009.10.29 14:25:00 -
[101]
CVA better not expand before i cba to get my assets out!
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Pr0Vaporizer
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Posted - 2009.10.29 14:44:00 -
[102]
Wouldn't adding a wait timer to disband an entire freaking alliance help this issue?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:02:00 -
[103]
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
Wrangler
Senior Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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RedLion
Caldari
State Constructions
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:02:00 -
[104]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
Those isk sellers make me sad! :<
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr
Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:03:00 -
[105]
Originally by: fooMiNiOn
It was exciting today TBH. Like someone said earlier, that it would be hard to admit this type of stupid hack adds excitement... well, for me it's true, not afraid to admit it.
We all knew everything was going to be just fine. The difference people are not thinking about is this. BOB's break up was ultimately up to players, corps, etc. To run and leave in all directions. CVA has been around a LONG time, and is going nowhere. We did however see something shocking, a red was able to dock!
Other than that, security was tight, it was a long op, but it was a damn rush for me to step up and show what we're made of. Believe it or not everyone, we are a tightly knit group of a variety of corp's containing acquaintances, and FRIENDS.
ITT - we brown nose Hardin.
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fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:06:00 -
[106]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
/QFT
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Night Epoch
Distant Light Galactic
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:10:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
Endless thanks to CCP for their timely actions to restore CVA from this travesty.
If we needed any more demonstration that ISK sellers are a bane to all of EVE, let this be it.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:11:00 -
[108]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
CVA = Dirty ISK buyers? I knew providence was not very good territory to make alliance level isk but damn..
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Howard Schultz
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:13:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
ITT: Proof that Providence sucks so much as a region the CVA executor has to buy isk lol
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:13:00 -
[110]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
sounds like time to investigate someones wallet then 
last I checked isk sellers just didn't get random account info.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:16:00 -
[111]
I hope you CCP take it seriously and hand over all information to the police or Interpol whomever handle such investigations.
Hacking and/or identity theft is even part of the terrorism legislation in some countries .. bastards should have a whole library thrown at them.
PS: Now will you change the mechanic that doesn't require any time or confirmation for alliance disbanding?
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ProContractor
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:19:00 -
[112]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
So why are those websites still up and running ?
your doing nothing to the sites itself but only ban chars = whats the poing if your not going after the sites too
makes me wonder if ccp is not doing it but let those noobs buy isk and then take it away. isk sellers still makes money and your taking the isk back, sounds like your both are in perfect harmony.
more needs to be done to the sites itself, if you take away the sites they have big problem marketing and selling isk/items and so on
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:21:00 -
[113]
Originally by: ProContractor
So why are those websites still up and running ?
your doing nothing to the sites itself but only ban chars = whats the poing if your not going after the sites too
makes me wonder if ccp is not doing it but let those noobs buy isk and then take it away. isk sellers still makes money and your taking the isk back, sounds like your both are in perfect harmony.
more needs to be done to the sites itself, if you take away the sites they have big problem marketing and selling isk/items and so on
Last time I checked the rmt sellers were mostly in china and completely untouchable legaly.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:21:00 -
[114]
I can't decide who is more stupid, the ISK buyer who happens to be a director of CVA, or the ISK seller who can't keep a low profile.
I'm sure some of Fallout's Favourites will be along shortly to point out that the stupidest is actually me.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:22:00 -
[115]
Originally by: ProContractor
So why are those websites still up and running ?
Because it's actually pretty hard to take a website down.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Atum
Gallente
g guild
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:26:00 -
[116]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
I'm sorry, Wrangler, but I'm having a hard time buying this. Phished account? Maybe/probably, but ISK sellers have too much to gain by quietly embezzling from an account as "juicy" as an alliance director to just throw it all away by doing something as blatant and attention-grabbing as disbanding one of the biggest names in the game.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:26:00 -
[117]
Originally by: ProContractor
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
After receiving a petition from CVA regarding their alliance being disbanded we launched an investigation as per our policy. Our experience in similar situations has often been that accounts were not hacked but, rather, the alliances were disbanded due to failed payment or enemy infiltration. In this case, however, we discovered that the account of the alliance executor was hacked by ISK sellers.
CCP needs you to help us fight RMT by not buying ISK! It may seem like a minor thing to do, all things considered, but keep in mind that these people steal credit cards and hack accounts to get ISK to sell. By choosing to purchase their ISK you are creating a demand for their services and the illegal activities that support them.
So why are those websites still up and running ?
your doing nothing to the sites itself but only ban chars = whats the poing if your not going after the sites too
makes me wonder if ccp is not doing it but let those noobs buy isk and then take it away. isk sellers still makes money and your taking the isk back, sounds like your both are in perfect harmony.
more needs to be done to the sites itself, if you take away the sites they have big problem marketing and selling isk/items and so on
cuz ccp is the internet police! oh wait no they aren't
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ProContractor
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:26:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: ProContractor
So why are those websites still up and running ?
Because it's actually pretty hard to take a website down.
i run a little company for myself selling hosting solutions and most providers have eula that covers intellectual property rights and so on and isk website breaks that rule by selling ingame isk
so if one of my customers did that i will have taken the site down
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:30:00 -
[119]
Originally by: ProContractor
i run a little company for myself selling hosting solutions and most providers have eula that covers intellectual property rights and so on and isk website breaks that rule by selling ingame isk
so if one of my customers did that i will have taken the site down
…which is why they don't use you as a provider and make the site hard to take down.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: ProContractor
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: ProContractor
So why are those websites still up and running ?
Because it's actually pretty hard to take a website down.
i run a little company for myself selling hosting solutions and most providers have eula that covers intellectual property rights and so on and isk website breaks that rule by selling ingame isk
so if one of my customers did that i will have taken the site down
And for everyone of you there could be 100 who don't care.
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