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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Is this a good spot for the pvp fit scorpion capable of warp jamming and energy drain? Death is assured. Vote Aleks for CSM.
I see your scorpion, and I raise you a trimarked armor plated neuting, scramming, double-injected, bait-raven for luring overconfident proteus pirates to their doom.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:04:00 -
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I HAVE 17 MILLION, CAN I HELP?
this is game
BECAUSE OF FALCON
vote for Alek
THIS SHALL BE DEALT WITH
which way did he go george, which way did he go?
...oh and that new protus one. ♥
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GRiMsReAPeR
Amarr inFluX. M.U.T.I.N.Y.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:04:00 -
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i see your scorpian, shaking that a$$, shakin that a$$ __________________________________________________
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:07:00 -
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Do what you want 'cause a Scorpion is free, you are a Scorpion!
Yar - har - fiddle-dee-dee, being a Scorpion is all right to be! Do what you want 'cause a Scorpion is free, you are a Scorpion!
You are a Scorpion! (Yay!)
We got us a map (a map!) to lead us to a hidden box, Thats all locked up with locks (with locks!) and buried deep away. We'll dig up the box (the box!), we know it's full of precious booty Burst open the locks, and then we'll say 'HOORAY!'
Yar - har - fiddle-dee-dee, If you love to sail the sea, you are a Scorpion!
WEIGH ANCHOR!
Yah - har - fiddle-dee-dee, being a Scorpion is all right to be! Do what you want 'cause a Scorpion is free, you are a Scorpion! Arr - yarr - ahoy and avast, dig in the dirt and you dig in it fast! Hang the black flag at the end of the mast! You are a Scorpion!
HA HA HA (Yay!)
We're sailing away (set sail!), adventure waits on every shore! We set sail and explore (ya-har!) and run and jump all day (Yay!) We float on our boat (our boat!) until its time to drop the anchor, Then hang up our coats (aye-aye!) until we sail again!
Yar - har - fiddle-dee-dee, If you love to sail the sea you are a Scorpion!
LAND HO!
Yar - har - fiddle-dee-dee, being a Scorpion is alright with me! Do what you want 'cause a Scorpion is free, you are a Scorpion! Yar har wind at your back lads, wherever you go! Blue sky above and blue ocean below, you are a Scorpion!
HA HA HA! You are a Scorpion!
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Lyris Nairn Is this a good spot for the pvp fit scorpion capable of warp jamming and energy drain? Death is assured. Vote Aleks for CSM.
I see your scorpion, and I raise you a trimarked armor plated neuting, scramming, double-injected, bait-raven for luring overconfident proteus pirates to their doom.
WTF IS PROTUS?
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Jolla Skyia
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:12:00 -
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No offense to Noir, but why the hell would you take a contract from these raving idiots anyway? M'K make the average goon forum post look like a literary master piece.
These M'K guys, are total ****ing idiots and just looking at the COAD forum over the last two months should be enough to see that. How anyone would suspect they actually had any ISK is beyond me.
I'm actually surprised people haven't had enough of their useless form dribble and just taken turns camping their station til they all emo rage quit.
BTW.. Who is this "Daniel Ogden" guy? He can't actually be in M'K. There is no ****ing way he is in their alliance, as he can actually compose a proper sentence. He must be sick boys dad trying just to bail jr out of problems or something.
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RedSplat
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so)
Okay, looking at that as an aside,
Contract was for 50% of damage done. I can see what you mention being an issue is we were after 100% of damage done.
Further, every Noir. loss is a Tech 2 ship to the best of my knowledge, so we don't ever get insurance in situations our victims will. If you subtract our losses (+10% to represent market fluctuations and ammo use) from the 50% of damages done determining payment the figures are considerably smaller; by about half MK's 2bn Merc budget if i recall correctly.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:25:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Doddy To be honest the only issue i see with the amount due is that t1 fully insurable battleship hulls which are essentially free to the target in the current market (due to insurance) count as full value for damage inflicted. Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so). Other than that MK don't really have a leg to stand on after giving such a vague contract.
srs post,
There are a lot of things wrong with the way most killboards available today work, from the perspective of calculating true damage done. We are looking into building a better mousetrap, so to speak, but its a ways off. I've personally always wanted a fairer assessment of actual strain inflicted on the enemy, but its difficult without knowing whether a ship was insured or not. sort of the same as knowing what a pod was worth. You have to extrapolate based on age, performance (its usually easy to tell if a pod had snakes, for example) and all sorts of other details not revealed in the current system.
A working extension to the contract system, allowing isk to placed in escrow until a set of conditions held true would solve these kinds of issues, as well, although, I get the feeling this particular situation will get very lol.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:30:00 -
[129]
I guess the Credit Crunch is affecting Maru Ka'ges ability to buy PLEX. ---
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Smiling Menace
Gallente Crimson Paradox
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:39:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 11/11/2009 14:34:47 Edited by: Helicity Boson on 11/11/2009 14:29:24
Originally by: Lyer
Did you really just make a post to point out a misplaced apostrophe on an internet forum. Good God. Step away from the computer and go outside, it's a lovely day.
I think the context of my post was very clear to the less Anally retentive readers of the board. Apostrophe or not.
It's good you care, it really is. Without you these forums would be a mess. Thank you.
Why yes, yes I did.
Care to venture a guess as to why I did this heinous thing? That's right! I did it because you saw fit to come up to the stand and pretend you are a person possessed of a greater intellect than a second party, and chose to do so in a way which exposes your own chronic lack of the subject matter at hand! \o/
Secondary to that, you now attempt the classic rebuttal of "oh lord in heavens, why do you waste your time in the internet correcting me when there is a world outside to enjoy!", oblivious to the intense, and delectable, irony of posting this very message on an internet forum yourself.
You augment this, with an attempted put-down, presuming to speak on behalf of all other parties, in informing me that regardless of your blatantly poor grasp of (presumably) your native tongue your message was no doubt received and my input is not of interest.
You presume falsely, as my esteemed readers have no doubt concluded by now. As a great many of us are now laughing at how foolish and petty you look, a shining example of intellect you are indeed...
Please. Do continue. My coffee break will last a while longer yet, and your flailing in the net which I cast for you amuses me.
You are aware you both spelt 'cheque' wrong?
Sorry to interrupt, carry on....
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ChinaWillGrowLarger
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:41:00 -
[131]
Thread is worth it for the spelling Bee Mafia alone. My Mitnal lies over the ocean My Mitnal lies over the sea My Mitnal lies over the ocean Oh bring back my Mitnal to me |
Vladimmire
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:43:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Doddy To be honest the only issue i see with the amount due is that t1 fully insurable battleship hulls which are essentially free to the target in the current market (due to insurance) count as full value for damage inflicted. Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so). Other than that MK don't really have a leg to stand on after giving such a vague contract.
As we all know, another factor not included on any killboard is the damage dealt to targets from podding. If you look at our stats on pod kills, and combine that with the number of begging, screaming, hatemailing pod targets we've prosecuted, I can gaurantee you that the isk value of the implants we've destroyed is huge.
We've got one dictor pilot, who shall remain nameless, who laughs with glee as he pops a new bubble each time to nab a pod. I'd wager isk the sick b$tard is only playing the game with one hand when he does it.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:47:00 -
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I'm sure if Sick Boy was actually genuinely interested in honoring his contract he could have contacted Noir. and worked out those little details like insurance. ---
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Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:47:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Check the date of my post, it just needs to be 2011
lol n1 HYDRA RELOADED 2009: APPLY TODAY. JOIN THE WINNING SIDE. |
Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimmire We've got one dictor pilot, who shall remain nameless, who laughs with glee as he pops a new bubble each time to nab a pod. I'd wager isk the sick b$tard is only playing the game with one hand when he does it.
don't talk about him like that man, he's a cool guy ---
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.11.11 18:59:00 -
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Confirming this wont be delt with.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:09:00 -
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I hate to say I told you so Alek, but at the very time he hired you "I told you so"
Maru Ka'ge are trash and sick boy is a sociopath.
As always you have our support.
_-.~Nemo Me Impune Lacessit~.-_ |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:13:00 -
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I would like to hire Noir. Mercenary Group to crush Maru'Kage. Primary target is Sick Boy. I will pay you .01 isk per unit of honour restored. Maximum honour cannot exceed 9001.
You have my terms, please now to accept.
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Vladimmire
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:15:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Vladimmire We've got one dictor pilot, who shall remain nameless, who laughs with glee as he pops a new bubble each time to nab a pod. I'd wager isk the sick b$tard is only playing the game with one hand when he does it.
don't talk about him like that man, he's a cool guy
Are you kidding? When he laughs like that he's my idol :)
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:25:00 -
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Of course this happens while my PC is doing its best impression of a plastic cinderblock. *shakes tiny fist*
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Orb Lati
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy To be honest the only issue i see with the amount due is that t1 fully insurable battleship hulls which are essentially free to the target in the current market (due to insurance) count as full value for damage inflicted. Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so). Other than that MK don't really have a leg to stand on after giving such a vague contract.
Im going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.
In their defence the contract was "50% damage on completion" and not "50% damage inflicted" however, to go all internet lawyer and argue for argument sake, is the 50% applicable?
The contract was terminated before the minimum period was complete. Is the contract considered "complete"? Argument being no early completion clause was agreed on, so when Sick Boy said they wouldn't pay, Noir would still need to finish the contract period for the 50% fee to apply?
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Orb Lati
Originally by: Doddy To be honest the only issue i see with the amount due is that t1 fully insurable battleship hulls which are essentially free to the target in the current market (due to insurance) count as full value for damage inflicted. Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so). Other than that MK don't really have a leg to stand on after giving such a vague contract.
Im going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.
In their defence the contract was "50% damage on completion" and not "50% damage inflicted" however, to go all internet lawyer and argue for argument sake, is the 50% applicable?
The contract was terminated before the minimum period was complete. Is the contract considered "complete"? Argument being no early completion clause was agreed on, so when Sick Boy said they wouldn't pay, Noir would still need to finish the contract period for the 50% fee to apply?
Alek specifically told ThBoy they would stop the contract if Noir went over MK's budget.
It's the Sick Boy's fault for not keeping track of Noir's kb to stay on top of how much they would owe. ♥
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Lee Dalton
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Orb Lati
Originally by: Doddy To be honest the only issue i see with the amount due is that t1 fully insurable battleship hulls which are essentially free to the target in the current market (due to insurance) count as full value for damage inflicted. Losing a raven hull does not inflict 120mil damage on the target unless the pilot forgot to insure it (unlikely, esp in 0.0) and if i was hiring mercenaries on a damage dealt basis i would want that taken into account(and would say so). Other than that MK don't really have a leg to stand on after giving such a vague contract.
Im going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.
In their defence the contract was "50% damage on completion" and not "50% damage inflicted" however, to go all internet lawyer and argue for argument sake, is the 50% applicable?
The contract was terminated before the minimum period was complete. Is the contract considered "complete"? Argument being no early completion clause was agreed on, so when Sick Boy said they wouldn't pay, Noir would still need to finish the contract period for the 50% fee to apply?
I'm not sure how relevant this is when the employer says that they will not honour the contract, then tries to gank you. *** You're only as good as your last fight. |
Mickey Simon
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Erichk Knaar We are looking into building a better mousetrap, so to speak, but its a ways off.
Yeah, mostly because I'm terrible at figuring out when I'm busy/free lol :(
Also: has any progress been made on it? I'm on holidays now and have started doing a database schema, but if you guys are already progressing with it yourselves it'd be p cool to know so I don't waste any time / mb can help if you need it.
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Simon
Originally by: Erichk Knaar We are looking into building a better mousetrap, so to speak, but its a ways off.
Yeah, mostly because I'm terrible at figuring out when I'm busy/free lol :(
Also: has any progress been made on it? I'm on holidays now and have started doing a database schema, but if you guys are already progressing with it yourselves it'd be p cool to know so I don't waste any time / mb can help if you need it.
WTF IS PROTUS?
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 19:57:00 -
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All I have to say is: If you hire a merc outfit... any merc outfit... you darn well better be ready and willing to pay when the collections agent comes calling.
Those who don't tend to regret it afterward.
It's pretty much open season on Maru Kage btw... anyone who wants to join in the fun just contact Alek and we'll sort standings. I'm taking bets on how long it is before they start losing caps that they seem to like to sit outside station in.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.11.11 20:12:00 -
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Sick Boy > to train Alekseyev Karrde > i think thats pretty fair Sick Boy > nah no deal, we did nthing wrong in this case Sick Boy > and im a fiar person Alekseyev Karrde > you didnt pay, how is that right? Minigin > sick you accepted a contract and didnt put a cap on it Sick Boy > cuz im willing to pay you something but Alekseyev Karrde > you havnt even sent me the 2b you claim you have Sick Boy > you cant put a price Sick Boy > on a blacklisting and slander Sick Boy > the damage is already done Sick Boy > killing you all day is fun for us not a threat really Sick Boy > trains up our fc's and pvpers Minigin > sick this is friendly advise Minigin > you want a compromise Sick Boy > try dodging PL doomsdays Sick Boy > for 2 months Minigin > i like both of you but i think you have wronged alek here Sick Boy > mini hes already Sick Boy > blacklisted us Sick Boy > we have war decs Sick Boy > from all merc crops Sick Boy > in empire Sick Boy > hes already done the damage Alekseyev Karrde > i can get the decs retracted Sick Boy > he prbably couldnt even take it back if he wanted too Sick Boy > i dont know if you really could Sick Boy > tbh Alekseyev Karrde > since i asked for them to go out, it's a fair bet Sick Boy > well i have to get back to work ill send you Alekseyev Karrde > i've sent contracts to just about every merc corp in the game at one point or another Sick Boy > the vote we have in alliance righ tnow Alekseyev Karrde > they are friends Minigin > sick this shouldnt be an alliance vote Sick Boy > it has to be Sick Boy > we are a democracy Minigin > im guessing the alliance didnt vote on hiring mercs Sick Boy > i guess that true Sick Boy > wel i dont want to be Sick Boy > on any blacklists Sick Boy > we are a blacklisted alliance enough Alekseyev Karrde > if 2b is the offer we'll take it and go. it's better than nothing, but you've still done wrong Minigin > dude hes not going to accept contracts from you ever again Minigin > regardless of what you do at this point Sick Boy > ya but Minigin > being blacklisted isnt a choice Sick Boy > hes got a full blacklist on us Sick Boy > for ALL merc corps Sick Boy > in the entire game Alekseyev Karrde > If he actually pays i'll lift the blacklist Alekseyev Karrde > it's not that hard to do Sick Boy > your heard it mini? Sick Boy > you'll fix our name on the crime and punishment board? Minigin > yah but sick you need to understand Sick Boy > promise me that Alekseyev Karrde > yes, i would do my best Sick Sick Boy > and we have a deal Sick Boy > ok i trust you Minigin > that all mercs have is the word of their customers and the blacklist if people dont pay Sick Boy > ive always liked you Sick Boy > ya i know mini Sick Boy > its just a special circumstance this time Sick Boy > i was wrong in the negotioatino Sick Boy > of the orginal contract Sick Boy > and i am sorry for that Sick Boy > ok log this convo Sick Boy > ill log it too Sick Boy > minigin your a witness Sick Boy > sending isk Sick Boy > we got a deal Alek? Alekseyev Karrde > when i get our money Sick Boy > *shakes? Sick Boy > k Sick Boy > done Sick Boy > you can verify Minigin > ok so for next time when you hire someone make sure you put a cap on the contract Sick Boy > ya for sure Alekseyev Karrde > i can verify you've paid 2 billion isk Sick Boy > no cap is Sick Boy > dangerious Sick Boy > very dangerous Alekseyev Karrde > aye. If you had told me 2bn upfront i would have stopped us waaaaay before it became a problem Sick Boy > i really thoguth 2 billion and the 150 depoisti would be enough for 1 week Sick Boy > i really did Sick Boy > im sorry alek, i really thoguth it would be Sick Boy > honestly Sick Boy > im not a scammer when it comes to deals like this, i just misjudged i guess Sick Boy > how no cap contracts Minigin > misunderstandings and what not Sick Boy > can get very high very quick Sick Boy > minigin i apprecaite your advise Sick Boy > on this matter Minigin > any time m8
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2009.11.11 20:17:00 -
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Quote: Sick Boy > try dodging PL doomsdays Sick Boy > for 2 months
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Sick Boy
Minmatar Unknown-Entity Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.11.11 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kuzya Morozov
Quote: Sick Boy > try dodging PL doomsdays Sick Boy > for 2 months
haha ya thats quote's funny. true though
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.11.11 20:41:00 -
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Sick, your stupidity knows no bounds:
Quote: Sick Boy > you cant put a price Sick Boy > on a blacklisting and slander Sick Boy > the damage is already done Sick Boy > killing you all day is fun for us not a threat really Sick Boy > trains up our fc's and pvpers
So why'd you hire Noir? Do you always try to protect your interests by hiring terrible merc pvp pilots? Does that seem wise? With Noir having dealt out 5 billion+ damage in 4 days, you'd have us believe that you're better than Noir? I guess we'll find out on the killboards. At least I hope we do. I've always wanted to see Noir handle a welching contractee.
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