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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:06:00 -
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Senior Producer CCP Unifex is ready with an update about new clothes, an update which was requested by quite some people. He also has news on how to purchase Aurum in an alternative way so that you have more options besides using only PLEX to get AUR.
Read all about CCP Unifex' newest blog here.
Your feedback is as always welcome. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
138
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:09:00 -
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I bet 50p someone's gonna assume this is the end of the world on page 1 of this thread. I have a specific comb for my beard. |
Brunaburh
Aurora Security
50
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:11:00 -
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Second?
A reasonable price point for clothing, and loot drops and FW LP clothing?
No development time to make said clothes?
Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt... |
Evil Incarn8
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
15
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:11:00 -
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Yay thank you :) |
Tequila Breeze
Austudy The Welfare State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:12:00 -
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any way I could buy AUR and buy back my old Inventory UI ? |
TheLostPenguin
Surreal Departure
28
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:14:00 -
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Makes sense, I know a number of people frustrated at the lack of expansion in clothing, and couldn't understand why you were holding back on already existing assets. Since you've already made the investment (and taken the firestorm last year) this will be welcomed by everyone, and perhaps show that a small steady investment in frilly bits to prance around in will be worthwhile in the long run.
The new (more sensible) pricepoints look great too, even I may be persuaded to part with some of that free AUR if I like the look of something |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
53
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:15:00 -
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I like the idea of clothes as rewards for LP and stuff, that's cool. I'm still against microtransactions in a full priced subscription game though personally, atlhough I can understand wanting to recoup something from the unused assets.
I think it'd be a better show of faith if the aurum costs were removed altogether though personally. |
Tammarr
Trident RMBK
15
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:15:00 -
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excellent *\o/*
now give me the 500k guristas LP and 500 aur geneticly enhanced bunny to have as a pet.
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ShiroOokami
MoonShadows Incorporated The Lucian Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:16:00 -
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Your ruining my birthday by releasing the aurum stuff on the 19th, DAMN YOU CCP, DAMN YOU. |
BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
39
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:18:00 -
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At least :)
Now i have to talk to militias for prices :D |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3450
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:19:00 -
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Is aurum ever going to be transferable? |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
316
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:20:00 -
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Tequila Breeze wrote:any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ? Its improving Sisi looks alot better and they have a couple more days to clean up the UI some more. |
Avvalina
DVA Enterprises
3
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:21:00 -
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OMG I CANT BELIEVE THIS CCP YOUVE RUINED THE GAME THE EVE WORLD IS OVER AS WE KNOW IT LETS BLOW UP A MONUMENT IN JITA!!!!!!!!
*Logs in*
*Picks out which new clothes will accentuate perfectly sculpted bottom* |
Htrag
The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone
36
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:22:00 -
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I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
448
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:23:00 -
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Finally! Am excited by this, hope all the good (read sexy) outfits are going to come out not just the uniforms This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Cathrine Kenchov
Ice Cold Ellites
14
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:23:00 -
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Well, I am kinda sad you guys have to go to such lengths to make it clear this stuff doesn't take away from FiS, but oh well.
It looks cool, and I am all for more clothes for when WiS finally unlocks THE DOOR
and inb4 "Its Nex Store stuff, I'm unsubbing" |
Crasniya
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
134
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:24:00 -
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Sounds like we're entering the definition of a MICRO-transaction with the new pricing. It definitely makes sense to keep existing AUR prices on existing items, and simply release cheaper variants. It doesn't devalue their spending, which you'd otherwise pretty much have to refund (or face anger/ire/etc.) and does leave kind of a "designer tier" in place. While I bet some of the cheap ones look better, some may want to use the expensive ones just as a status symbol.
I also think that big fleet commander coat, for example, makes a great high value item for people like Alliance leaders and such.
New purchase options are great, alternative methods of getting stuff is great. (I don't do FW, but that's a great place to release them.) Drops for some will be awesome as well.
Transferable AUR is a must, IMHO, at least by the time we get DUST out. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
448
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:24:00 -
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Oh looting clothing is a fantastic idea. Will definitely add flavor to finding the overseer's clothes not just his OPE. Whoever had it please tell him to post on forum so I can "like" him . This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
70
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:25:00 -
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Way to go CCP, a very reasonable approach to selling in game items. Also applaud you on the cash fro Aurum addition. Now, give us ability to buy ship skins and all will be grand. |
Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:26:00 -
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As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. << THE RABBLE BRIGADE >> |
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Jonah Gravenstein
470
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:26:00 -
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Still waiting for my tartan flares and cuban heels
or anything that might have been worn by Snoop Dogg when he played Huggy Bear War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
316
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:26:00 -
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Nex store is broke on Sisi at the moment |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
1510
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:29:00 -
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Picking clothes for the FW store is one of the most fun things I've done for a while. There, I said it. |
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PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:33:00 -
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TheLostPenguin wrote:Makes sense, I know a number of people frustrated at the lack of expansion in clothing, and couldn't understand why you were holding back on already existing assets. Since you've already made the investment (and taken the firestorm last year) this should be welcomed by everyone, and perhaps show that a small steady investment in frilly bits to prance around in will be worthwhile in the long run. The new (more sensible) pricepoints look great too, even I may be persuaded to part with some of that free AUR if I like the look of something
Because people seem to think CCP is just one dude in a basement and that her time is spent on only one thing at a time. They completely fail to realize that there are multiple devs per team, and multiple teams per department.
Artwork team works on just artwork. Game balance team works on just game balance. It isn't a single person who has to decide what to do next.
It is almost painful how overly clear and obvious CCP has to make it when discussing WIS stuff that they are still working on FIS as their primary focus.
That said, I approve of dev blog. That red shirt is faancy. If you don't want to buy them, then don't, no one is forcing you to spend $60 on a monocle if you don't want it. For those that have the 1.5B (or whatever price it is) and want to spend it on such, let them. Having variety is good. |
Tetsuo Mizuraki
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:34:00 -
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I think this implementation is light years better than the gold monocle debacle! :)
Thanks CCP |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
182
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:34:00 -
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I like the new CCP that doesn't dive head-first into a pool of battery acid.
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Boffles
Aliastra Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:34:00 -
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One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? |
Lukas Rox
Aideron Robotics
7
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:36:00 -
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Good idea, A lot of players I know have been asking about the unreleased clothes. If the prices were reasonable in the beginning, there would probably be no backlash last summer. There would probably be no Crucible as well... This way we both have CCP focused on spaceships and cheap clothes in NeX store.
Now, dear devs, when are you going to open THE DOOR? ;-)
I hold you to the implant making business with avatar-based exploration. This will beat Star Trek Online tenfold ;D |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
316
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:36:00 -
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Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
722
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:37:00 -
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Any consideration to having what you pick up at the LP store, or what drops as loot, is a BPC for making the clothing? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1788
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:38:00 -
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I have to say, I'm strangely satisfied by this tweak to the clothing store. I may not be a huge fan of the concept itself, but adding in more reasonably priced items, in addition to LP items and loot items, seems like a fairly reasonable step and should open the market up a bit. |
Mai Calamity
GR3Y N0MADS Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:38:00 -
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This sound like what the NEX store should have been from the start. No objections to this from me, and I'm glad you guys learned your lesson. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
549
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:39:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you.
Yeah, it's awesome. We'll just be stuck in the same game for the next 10 years with no development toward anything new and expansive. Space-ship only development is a wonderful plan.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:39:00 -
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Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ?
you can view a full body rotateable image of any character that catches your eye
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:40:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Any consideration to having what you pick up at the LP store, or what drops as loot, is a BPC for making the clothing?
new industrialist job : tailor. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Aemonchichi
Limited Access Guardian Society
24
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:41:00 -
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it is the end of all things good, but hey its 2012 anyway |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1197
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:42:00 -
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I've been wanting to see the idea of faction-unique clothes for a while now.
Now all we need is blood raider/sansha clothes so we can dress like bloodstained junkies or robots |
Angelica Scatterbrain
WH United
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:43:00 -
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It would have been nice if you had taken the same attitude about people's investment in sov before screwing nul sec. So, how long until we can buy "special" ammo with out bought Aurum? |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:48:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Way to go CCP, a very reasonable approach to selling in game items. Also applaud you on the cash fro Aurum addition. Now, give us ability to buy ship skins and all will be grand.
Posting to say I am not madbro and I support releasing clothing to the public, Also i love my monocle.
Also Also not emptyquoting Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:49:00 -
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Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist.
I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2071
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:49:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Any consideration to having what you pick up at the LP store, or what drops as loot, is a BPC for making the clothing? new industrialist job : tailor. Ideally, yes.
Obtain the BPC any way you like (LP store, NEX, Player market, Loot drops) and then the players make and price the final product themselves.
I am very, very interested to see what the clothing that drops from NPC's looks like, hopefully it matches their lore in some fashion. I will also be purchasing a proper uniform for my Militia pilot, expensive in LP as it may currently be.
This is the first tentative step back into the realm of Incarna, and I think the way you are handling this is well thought out.
Nicely done sir. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:50:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this.
I AM THE MARKET, Seriously, Unifex, Give me an ishukone skin for moar ships that i can buy with my moneys Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2071
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:52:00 -
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Angelica Scatterbrain wrote:It would have been nice if you had taken the same attitude about people's investment in sov before screwing nul sec. So, how long until we can buy "special" ammo with out bought Aurum?
Ladies and gentlemen I give you Angelica Scatterbrain, living up to her name. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:52:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you.
That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
242
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:52:00 -
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Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ?
If you zoomed your avatar picture out a bit, we could see the cloths you're wearing. |
Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation
46
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:52:00 -
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Woah - A reasonable approach to micro-transactions? If it wasn't for the wardec about-face I would be wondering what you'd done with the CCP we've come to expect.
Much pain could have been avoided if this was the type of implementation that had been originally released... |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
2580
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:53:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first.
When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character.
You can even spin people!
I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:53:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this.
Yeah... I'll probably buy stuff if the prices are reasonable, just because. Still waiting for ship skins though. Those interest me more than clothing that I won't see until station environments are more... remotely useful. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
316
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:53:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. When will the NEX reopen on Sisi its empty now? |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:56:00 -
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Salpun wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. When will the NEX reopen on Sisi its empty now?
I will poke the right people and see what we can do. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
400
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:58:00 -
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the two things that i wish they did for clothes is:
A: make them destructable
B: remove the clothes and replace them with BPC's...
i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
tech III industrial ships! |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
316
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:59:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. When will the NEX reopen on Sisi its empty now? I will poke the right people and see what we can do. Thanks you will get more bad press that its not seeded then the good feed back you want to hear if it stays that way. |
Boffles
Aliastra Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:01:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first.
Interesting. I am keeping my hopes up then.
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Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:01:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:A: make them destructable B: remove the clothes and replace them with BPC's... THIS
It doesn't belong into eve if its not destructible (right, outposts are on the todo list). |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2071
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:01:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. When will the NEX reopen on Sisi its empty now? I will poke the right people and see what we can do.
By the time I realized just how dangerous that method can be, I was on my 3rd wife. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2071
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:03:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:the two things that i wish they did for clothes is:
A: make them destructable
B: remove the clothes and replace them with BPC's...
i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me...
Re-emphasizing this point for greater justice. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:03:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you. That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships. When will the NEX reopen on Sisi its empty now? I will poke the right people and see what we can do. By the time I realized just how dangerous that method can be, I was on my 3rd wife.
But then by definition, were you poking the right people Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Haifisch Zahne
HZ Corp
56
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:03:00 -
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Hi Barbie Hi Ken! Do you wanna go for a ride? Sure Ken! Jump In...
I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic! you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation Come on Barbie, let's go party!
Now, that said, I really did like the EVE Fanfest Cinematic Trailer 2012's opening with the Walking in Abandoned Stations ("WiAS").
And, how about you have Walking on Planets! Oh, wait, that's Dust 514, which I hope my nephews will love. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2072
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:06:00 -
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Quote:I will poke the right people and see what we can do.
Quote:By the time I realized just how dangerous that method can be, I was on my 3rd wife.
Quote:But then by definition, were you poking the right people
HEY!! (It seemed like a good idea at the time...) When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
81
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:07:00 -
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Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign towers. Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself churn. Lock it in, uniforming, book burning, blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle, light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch your heel crush, crushed, uh-oh, this means no fear cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament, tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives and I decline.
It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Just because someone did not do it on page 1.
Awesome looking items for clothing have fun kids |
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2511
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:11:00 -
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It's super encouraging to see that CCP listened to the CSM's recommendations at the recent summit regarding pricing, and super encouraging to see Avatar items for the first time that ARENT tied to Aurum. This is definitely a step in the right direction.
I'll be grabbing a Minmatar uniform for sure! Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
232
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:12:00 -
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Quote:Secondly, we are going to be adding a number of items to the Nex store but at somewhat lower Aurum prices than we have in the past. Items will be available at 100, 300 and 500 AUR prices. Existing items from before June 19th will remain in the store, for now, at the current prices so that we donGÇÖt devalue the investment that some players have already made.
Going at the $15 for 2500 AUR rate, the 500 AUR items are three bucks each. You're getting closer to a sane price point if 500 AUR is the highest-priced item.
This is where prices should have been at Incarna launch, there would have been much less apeshit rage. Please support: export of settings in editable format
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Aarin Wrath
East Khanid Laboratories Khanid Trade Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:13:00 -
[63] - Quote
Woot! I have not been a huge fan of WIS but I am definitely glad to see this happening. GG CCP :) |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:16:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:It's super encouraging to see that CCP listened to the CSM's recommendations at the recent summit regarding pricing, and super encouraging to see Avatar items for the first time that ARENT tied to Aurum. This is definitely a step in the right direction.
I'll be grabbing a Minmatar uniform for sure!
CSM were a great help with this, thanks guys. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
3
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:17:00 -
[65] - Quote
Honestly, spending real money on an element of the game that has nothing to do with ... the game.
Makes no sense to me.
To each their own, of course :) |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries Alliance not Found
54
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:19:00 -
[66] - Quote
Bring back Intaki male "Qui Gon Jinn" style hair please!!! |
Gerald Taric
68
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
Quote:At Fanfest we had a large number of people asking us to give them more options for personalizing the look of their avatar. A large number was asking for content not being related to FIS? Hilarious!
Well, i'm really (!) looking forward to this nice enrichment; and the reffered "large numbers of people" surely too. |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
52
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:27:00 -
[68] - Quote
Brunaburh wrote:Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt...
This.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3775
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:29:00 -
[69] - Quote
Yay finally some use for the 250,000 AUR... Also can we please be allowed to send AUR to other pilots soon?
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Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT Numquam Ambulare Solus
59
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:34:00 -
[70] - Quote
Will the clothing from loot include items with rips, burns, and bodily fluid stains?
Its a cold, harsh universe, and sometimes you need to remove a man's coat with a knife or blaster.
If only we could fall into a woman's arms
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
333
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:34:00 -
[71] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Yay finally some use for the 250,000 AUR... Also can we please be allowed to send AUR to other pilots soon? oh chribba u so crazy |
Fearless M0F0
Incursion PWNAGE Asc
35
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:37:00 -
[72] - Quote
Interesting, now if only we, linux users, could get to the Captain's Quarters if only to change clothes ...
Yeah, CQ stopped working for linux+wine users months ago, but since none of us ever use it we didn't bother complaining about it |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:39:00 -
[73] - Quote
Sable Moran wrote:Brunaburh wrote:Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt... This.
How about we fix the current skirt before introducing new broken ones. |
Wun NgoWen
Unforeseen Consequences. THE UNTHINKABLES
8
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:40:00 -
[74] - Quote
Aurum transfer, exchange between pilots ? will we CCP ? |
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
20
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:41:00 -
[75] - Quote
I hate to be the person to point this out but the UK is getting screwed again with the AUR direct purchase prices. The 2.5k purchase is overpriced by about -ú2 vs the dollar price. The $ to -ú very rarely drops below 1.5 (and is in fact higher at this point) and can go as high as 1.7+. Support FW uniforms here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=112233 |
joelinux
ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes
156
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:45:00 -
[76] - Quote
Something I've always thought would be interesting would be to go to all the colleges that have fashion design degrees and offer to work with them to enable them to make virtual clothes in EvE in exchange for school credit. That way, you would have a ready supply of clothes without having to put out the development effort. |
Abulurd Boniface
Shadow State SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:45:00 -
[77] - Quote
If they already had these assets, they should have been rolled out when the NEX was launched, why wait in the first place.
I hope this is just the beginning. Myself and some other fine gentlemen at fanfest told Unifex what it is we expected from the NEX.
Maybe, who knows, we'll even get it. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
DeadStar Marauders
13
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:46:00 -
[78] - Quote
Who's $!#^ do I have to &%#^ to get an eyepatch?
I do like the changes and am glad to see specific faction war uniforms. That's cool (even cooler if you could somehow tie decorations into the clothing selection screen). But, spaceships first and foremost. Neut the bastards |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
Abulurd Boniface wrote:If they already had these assets, they should have been rolled out when the NEX was launched, why wait in the first place.
I hope this is just the beginning. Myself and some other fine gentlemen at fanfest told Unifex what it is we expected from the NEX.
Maybe, who knows, we'll even get it.
Because a bunch of people freaked the hell out about it for no reason and this would be seen as throwing gas on a fire/ignoring the extremely vocal minority. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:51:00 -
[80] - Quote
Knug LiDi wrote:Will the clothing from loot include items with rips, burns, and bodily fluid stains?
Its a cold, harsh universe, and sometimes you need to remove a man's coat with a knife or blaster.
It's neatly packed away in the OPE. Would be cool if we could open the OPE and getting some random clothing instead of selling it to concord
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
233
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:51:00 -
[81] - Quote
sad to see how careful CCP has to be in the wording of this blog. Don't worry about the haters On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Joe Everyguy
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:55:00 -
[82] - Quote
>still can't open that goddamned door in my Cap. Quarters >can't yellowtext on EVE forums <---mfw
When is this happening and will I be able to PEWPEW in stardock? |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
233
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:55:00 -
[83] - Quote
also, CCP should have the option of having just a black square for avatars so all the people complaining about clothes and avatars can choose that On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
464
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:56:00 -
[84] - Quote
Currently we can't tell an allied militia other than by checking in the corp etc.
It would be nice if these militia uniforms:
1) were offered for free to people who obtain top rank in faction war
2) could only be worn by people in the militia.
That way we could have a way to tell if somone is in an allied militia or not.
edit: -also neutrals would be able to tell if someone is in a militia too if they learn the uniforms. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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CCP Manifest
C C P C C P Alliance
415
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:09:00 -
[85] - Quote
JamesCLK wrote:I like the new CCP that doesn't dive head-first into a pool of battery acid.
This is my favorite quote on the forums in months :)
======== o7 CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest |
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
52
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:12:00 -
[86] - Quote
Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ?
Do show info -> click on mug shot -> click on 'View Full Body' button.
Yes they can Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:14:00 -
[87] - Quote
Brunaburh wrote:Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt... and little mirrors for your shoes |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Tactical Narcotics Team
162
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:17:00 -
[88] - Quote
Then we just need a bar, a corp/alliance tactical planning room or somewhere else to mingle with others and show off our new stuff... Pretty boring when I can't show off my new pink cowboy boots to my friends :-( |
Paul Clancy
Korpu no Byakko Tower of Dark Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:20:00 -
[89] - Quote
What one of these skirts is Gallente? :) |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:22:00 -
[90] - Quote
CCP Soundwave wrote:Picking clothes for the FW store is one of the most fun things I've done for a while. There, I said it. Sorry, mate, these clothing lines affect the whole scifi spaceship immersion in an extremely negative way. Saw a female capsuleer's portrait the other day and she looked more like a schoolteacher or bank secretary, nothing at all like an assault ship pilot.
I'm not raging over it (the prices are much more reasonable). I didn't rage over it last summer either. But that doesn't mean the whole nex store idea isn't dumb. Draw your own conclusions about people who think it's fun to play dress-up in a game about bloody battles with spaceships. |
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Aijle Mijleroff
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
18
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:25:00 -
[91] - Quote
I want this http://imglink.ru/pictures/15-06-12/5cdab5cbe3ac0e58aa437361d1fd14d1.jpg |
Kyoko Sakoda
Veto. Veto Corp
96
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:27:00 -
[92] - Quote
Thank you CCP for understanding that the prefix of microtransaction is micro. :) |
Edgar Strangelove
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:28:00 -
[93] - Quote
I hope a lab coat is hidden in the works somewhere. I can't do science properly without a lab coat. |
Onyx Nyx
Perkone Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:29:00 -
[94] - Quote
Can I have a blood stained lab coat? |
Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
16
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:29:00 -
[95] - Quote
This sounds sensible.
As a Wspace pilot who never sees anyone's clothes I probably won't participate yet, but as long as your effort still focused on FIS I'm happy. |
Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive
49
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:38:00 -
[96] - Quote
Slightly off topic question. Will Dust and EVE share the same price points for Aurum? Having different price scales would be confusing to users. This is not a request for Aur to be share-able across accounts.
Its good to see clothes being introduced into LP Stores. There is a lot of potential to make acquiring these interesting and meaningful, instead of only shelling out $. Hint: start by giving out something wearable to new players when they complete the tutorial. |
Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
109
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
hoping for kawaii (cute) neko (cat) ears please ccp!
and seifuku Minmatar V3 gallery: http://minus.com/mOqXRikn5 |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
Onyx Nyx wrote:Can I have a blood stained lab coat?
Lots of good suggestions in this thread. Keep them coming. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:41:00 -
[99] - Quote
Valeo Galaem wrote: Hint: start by giving out something wearable to new players when they complete the tutorial.
Great idea, will pass this on to the guys working on NPE. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company Luna Sanguinem
26
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:42:00 -
[100] - Quote
Its all very well having all these new clothes on offer but other than posting screenshots of my attire no one else can see what I'm wearing!
Why not open that door and let us walk around the station? |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:42:00 -
[101] - Quote
Swidgen wrote:Brunaburh wrote:Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt... and little mirrors for your shoes
I hear some people are also pretty keen on various types of hat.
(Paging Seleene...) Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:43:00 -
[102] - Quote
Cearain wrote:Currently we can't tell an allied militia other than by checking in the corp etc.
It would be nice if these militia uniforms:
1) were offered for free to people who obtain top rank in faction war
2) could only be worn by people in the militia.
That way we could have a way to tell if somone is in an allied militia or not.
edit: -also neutrals would be able to tell if someone is in a militia too if they learn the uniforms.
Good ideas here. Will pass them on to the stars working on FW. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Gerald Taric
68
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:45:00 -
[103] - Quote
Lyron-Baktos wrote:sad to see how careful CCP has to be in the wording of this blog. Don't worry about the haters Well, at least haters are proven being wrong, whenever they reffer to "all" or "most". And they got "their" improvements too. Keeping in mind, that it is impossible to please everyone, the way CCP goes at the moment looks very good.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
533
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:46:00 -
[104] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:It's super encouraging to see that CCP listened to the CSM's recommendations at the recent summit regarding pricing, and super encouraging to see Avatar items for the first time that ARENT tied to Aurum. This is definitely a step in the right direction.
I'll be grabbing a Minmatar uniform for sure! I'm sorry but I'm fairly certain CCP got the hint about the pricing a year ago. Also avatar items not tied to Aurum has been in game for about 8 months now such as the coat my character is wearing. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
227
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:50:00 -
[105] - Quote
Curly Hair from Sisi
What happened to the hairstyle above, that was on Sisi a while back...? It'd be good to see more variation in that area too...
Great idea about releasing this stuff through FW, and drops. It's good to see CCP getting it's 'sensible head' on.
How much stuff are you releasing? Is it just the recolours on the blog page? |
Gerald Taric
68
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:51:00 -
[106] - Quote
I'm not sure, if anyone already wrote that:
What about t-shirts with some of the common faction logos? Maybe some would love it to wear one with the Guristas logo
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Istan Mahwi
4
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:51:00 -
[107] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote: i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me...
i prefer CCP making more money so we can have more spaceships.
+1 cuz looks are errrthing :) |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
130
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:54:00 -
[108] - Quote
Hiram Alexander wrote: How much stuff are you releasing? Is it just the recolours on the blog page?
Those are the FW items shown in the blog. We are releasing about 25 (I think, will have to double check) other items into the Nex store.
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Romla Yatolila
The Wizards Of Weed Friendly Players Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:54:00 -
[109] - Quote
Might actually use the 7500 free aurum i've saved up. Yay for patience! |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
227
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:58:00 -
[110] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Hiram Alexander wrote: How much stuff are you releasing? Is it just the recolours on the blog page?
Those are the FW items shown in the blog. We are releasing about 25 (I think, will have to double check) other items into the Nex store. Superb. |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
400
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
Istan Mahwi wrote:MeBiatch wrote: i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me...
i prefer CCP making more money so we can have more spaceships. +1 cuz looks are errrthing :)
actually eve is a sandbox and in it you can do what you like including ambulation stuffz...
it just so happens that ccp current focus is iternation of left behind spaceship features... but that does not mean in the future they will not do a proper iteration on wis...
furthermore one of the main things in eve is pvp and that includes all aspects including the market and industry...
so having clothes from nex store be BPC then having to use PI and slots in the station to make the clothes would be epic for me plus having them destructable would be a nice adition...
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
tech III industrial ships! |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
494
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:00:00 -
[112] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Valeo Galaem wrote: Hint: start by giving out something wearable to new players when they complete the tutorial.
Great idea, will pass this on to the guys working on NPE. What about making corp medals represented on the character model? Or something analogous to rank stripes or badges for completed certificates?
Anything that ties avatars into the wider game in some way is a positive step for them. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Istan Mahwi
4
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:07:00 -
[113] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Istan Mahwi wrote:MeBiatch wrote: i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me...
i prefer CCP making more money so we can have more spaceships. +1 cuz looks are errrthing :) actually eve is a sandbox and in it you can do what you like including ambulation stuffz... it just so happens that ccp current focus is iternation of left behind spaceship features... but that does not mean in the future they will not do a proper iteration on wis... furthermore one of the main things in eve is pvp and that includes all aspects including the market and industry... so having clothes from nex store be BPC then having to use PI and slots in the station to make the clothes would be epic for me plus having them destructable would be a nice adition...
ultimately.....im down with anything...including the use of avatarian limb systems "I like the new CCP that doesn't dive head-first into a pool of battery acid." |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights
9
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:08:00 -
[114] - Quote
Would be awesome if we could loot clothes after podding someone. |
Kivena
EVE University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:13:00 -
[115] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:What about making corp medals represented on the character model? This is a good idea. As well as the "private" and "public" options for medals, have a "show on character" option. |
TheButcherPete
Specter Syndicate Persona Non Gratis
207
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:14:00 -
[116] - Quote
Why can't I wear womens clothing? D: My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
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Istan Mahwi
Red Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:17:00 -
[117] - Quote
TheButcherPete wrote:Why can't I wear womens clothing? D:
:( one can only hope "I like the new CCP that doesn't dive head-first into a pool of battery acid." |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
354
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:21:00 -
[118] - Quote
June 19th? As in next thursday?
Then I am so bloomingly happy to have reactivated this account for precisely this month...
...almost.
As this time I will wait until it is released. I've been waiting since Incarna to put on a "Structure" dress priced under 100 million ISK, and provided how fortunate i am, i bet it's gonna end up being a FW gift...
Coming soon... one year later? What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
354
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:30:00 -
[119] - Quote
BTW:
Roughly 15 EUR/USD = 1 PLEX = 3,500 AUR
14.99 EUR / USD = 2,500 AUR
Just in case you thought that multi-PLEX pack "offers" were the only way in which CCP could overcharge you... What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
533
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:31:00 -
[120] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:June 19th? As in next thursday?Then I am so bloomingly happy to have reactivated this account for precisely this month... No, June 19th is on Tuesday Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
153
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:34:00 -
[121] - Quote
I haven't read this thread yet, but I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think? |
None ofthe Above
218
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:43:00 -
[122] - Quote
I think this is a good measured step at finding a path forward for NEX, AUR and avatars past the wounds of Incarna
Love the FW angle. FW Uniforms without involving AUR is a great idea.
Letting the art assets be released rather than sitting around is very good too. Must have been frustrating for the people that worked on them.
Have to wait and see on new pricing with the NEX and AUR. Do like the trend towards actual microtransactions, even if I would prefer to pay in ISK.
Re: Peoples investment and keeping the old pricing for old items. Probably the right move for now. In the long run, early adopters commonly pay more for things and the market settles down to cheaper more reasonable prices over time. That's fine. Probably best to have patience on this respect though. Honestly I doubt few folks have purchased clothing as investment opportunities, if they did there was plenty if indications that this was a potentially risky investment. So wouldn't worry too terribly much about that, but patience and slow change is advised.
Anyway, thanks for the courage to revisit this. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.
CCP Unifex wrote:Valeo Galaem wrote: Hint: start by giving out something wearable to new players when they complete the tutorial.
Great idea, will pass this on to the guys working on NPE.
Graduation cap and gown? (Sorry for the inevitable hats digression)
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Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
17
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:47:00 -
[123] - Quote
Am I the only one wondering what "Nexon" is? o.O
Edit: Also, when can we have MOAR piercings at random locations of ones face? You know, like the old minmatar. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
805
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:50:00 -
[124] - Quote
Mashie Saldana wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:June 19th? As in next thursday?Then I am so bloomingly happy to have reactivated this account for precisely this month... No, June 19th is on Tuesday
Tuesday, Thursday, you should just call them Marsday and Joveday, you heathen. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:54:00 -
[125] - Quote
Evelgrivion wrote: Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a small but very vocal number of players.
There, that's more like the truth.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1784
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:54:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Swidgen wrote:Brunaburh wrote:Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt... and little mirrors for your shoes I hear some people are also pretty keen on various types of hat. (Paging Seleene...)
Hi I want a nice red beret, a top hat and JUST MAKE SOME HATS SHEESH!!
Seriously, very pleased with this approach. The CSM was consulted on this at the summit and I'm happy to see things moving forward in a very sensible way. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:55:00 -
[127] - Quote
Dezolf wrote:Am I the only one wondering what "Nexon" is? o.O
The Nexon Valdez, a freighter carrying PI products that got suicide ganked near an ice planet.
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
153
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:00:00 -
[128] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Evelgrivion wrote: Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a small but very vocal number of players. There, that's more like the truth.
Even if it is a small number of players, is it really okay to dismiss their concerns and consternation out of hand? Not everyone who is against Aurum is shouting it from the rooftops, after all. |
Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
538
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:02:00 -
[129] - Quote
I'll say this one final time: **** off with your microtransactions. Everything should be producable by players for ingame resources. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
120
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:03:00 -
[130] - Quote
And here I was almost hoping that CCP might be considering removing all microtransactions from EVE. Silly me.
PLEX is bad enough, but Aurum is just bullshit. If you're going to keep doing this, then keep it very very low key or you'll lose an otherwise not-so-bitter vet. Buying in-game crap for real money fucks with the sandbox and it fucks with immersion, and it's not a good ******* either. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
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Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders MPA
98
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:04:00 -
[131] - Quote
Clothing in loot? Sure why not? I can go with that. Same old blah clothing? Not so exciting. I hope that as new clothing items are slowly developed, I can get a cloak or a cape (Lando Calrissian look for me). Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people dress little differently than they do today. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.
Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe. I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:09:00 -
[132] - Quote
See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.
By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
723
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:18:00 -
[133] - Quote
Evelgrivion wrote:I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think?
I got no issue with Aurum being created from real money as the only way for it to come into existence. But I do think players should be able to sell it to each other for ISK. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ibrahim Khashanti
Metropolis Risk Management
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:20:00 -
[134] - Quote
I like the move. Avatar clothing isn't my focus in this game, but sometimes a long haul or boring gate camp requires checking out what other people are wearing. And I confess, I'll probably drop a few dollars for S&G's.
My recommendations: hats, gloves, or even space suits of some kind. I mean who wants to be covered in pod goo? |
Lilliana Stelles
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
35
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:26:00 -
[135] - Quote
Clothing in the LP store? Why are you giving us Christmas presents in the middle of the summer, CPP? <3 |
Ibrahim Khashanti
Metropolis Risk Management
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:27:00 -
[136] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Evelgrivion wrote:I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think? I got no issue with Aurum being created from real money as the only way for it to come into existence. But I do think players should be able to sell it to each other for ISK.
In game currency trading...... Now there's an idea. Imagine if all four empires had their own currencies. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
82
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:35:00 -
[137] - Quote
This is clearly an omen of the end of the world predicted by Mayans for 2012.
Thanks, CCP! Finally
P.S. Now, please, develop multi-avatar station halls with chat bubbles depending on my active chat channel. |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
140
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:37:00 -
[138] - Quote
Ibrahim Khashanti wrote: In game currency trading...... Now there's an idea. Imagine if all four empires had their own currencies.
I think Dr Eyjo just had a panic attack Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
140
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:38:00 -
[139] - Quote
Anvil44 wrote: ...Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.
Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe.
If this test proves successful this is exactly the kind of thing I would like to investigate. Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Ivan Ward
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:40:00 -
[140] - Quote
Will this mean that you are going to sell belts in that shop of yours? "Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you." |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8003
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:42:00 -
[141] - Quote
So we have 200 AUR/$, 166 AUR/$, 150 AUR/$ and 120 AUR/$-áprice pointsGǪ
Are you trying to manipulate PLEX prices, CCP? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Murashu
Phoibe Enterprises
41
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:42:00 -
[142] - Quote
I 'm glad that you are finally releasing new clothing, but does everything have to be a part of a military uniform? I've been in the Army for 22 years and the last thing I want to wear when I'm relaxing around the house is a uniform. When can we expect to see something non-militant? |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:44:00 -
[143] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Anvil44 wrote: ...Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.
Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe. If this test proves successful this is exactly the kind of thing I would like to investigate.
Will those outfits that were available on SiSi a few months ago be in the Tuesday release? They looked quite futuristic to me
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
159
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:52:00 -
[144] - Quote
I think you should make it so you can view the full body avatars here on the forums as well like you can in the game where you can spin them and so on. Might get people to buy even more of the clothing and so on if we could see them full body in the forum as well. Dunno if would actually be possible, but it is a thought. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:53:00 -
[145] - Quote
Mechael wrote:See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.
By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure.
I thought the outrage was because CCP spent millions of dollars and years of developer time on what was supposed to be a really cool project, and instead all we got was a rusty studio apartment with trash on the floor that we couldn't pick up.
We couldn't even have people hang out, not that we wanted to with that mess on the floor. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
150
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:53:00 -
[146] - Quote
So long as skins never hit ships, and the items are WiS cosmetic, im cool with this. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:00:00 -
[147] - Quote
Alia Gon'die wrote:Mechael wrote:See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.
By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure. I thought the outrage was because CCP spent millions of dollars and years of developer time on what was supposed to be a really cool project, and instead all we got was a rusty studio apartment with trash on the floor that we couldn't pick up. We couldn't even have people hang out, not that we wanted to with that mess on the floor.
Yeah, I remember watching the focus visibly shift of the course of a few months from, "WTF GET MICROTRANSACTIONS OUT OF THE ******* SANDBOX!" to "Why u no build spaceship? Why Incarna so bad?"
I think that most of EVE has been the proverbial frog boiled in a pot. Turn the temp up slowly enough and it won't even realize it's dying.
Ah well. If this microtransaction **** gets out of hand (read: anything beyond PLEX and clothing items,) I'm gone. If custom paint jobs for your ships (when they're released) are priced in Aurum, I'm gone. Aurum needs to be removed, and failing that it needs to be left alone to fade away into obscurity. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
226
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:00:00 -
[148] - Quote
I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
236
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:08:00 -
[149] - Quote
The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:12:00 -
[150] - Quote
Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned
All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
264
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:12:00 -
[151] - Quote
steam workshop for eve please :)
player designed, ccp approved clothes, hairstyles, furniture, ship logos,...
once approved, the designer gets X percent of all sales (maybe only in aurum, which can also be used to buy plex from ccp) |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
279
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:12:00 -
[152] - Quote
I approve of this move. May New Eden be well dressed. |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:16:00 -
[153] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.
If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money.
They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things? |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:18:00 -
[154] - Quote
PinkKnife wrote:Mechael wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period. If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money. They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things?
It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win? I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
458
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:19:00 -
[155] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY
Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Heather Sunstar
Meta Holdings Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:20:00 -
[156] - Quote
How about making AUR convertible to something actually useful (clothing for a digital character is not useful) like ISK?
We know you got the fashion industry into EVE... but in case you didn't notice alot of computer geeks/nerds play EVE online and we've never been that metrosexual.
The fact of it is from the number of players who have told me they play EVE nude or in their underwear... characters should be able to go unclothed.
"any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ?"
I would second that motion... and request at least getting a button back on the EVE toolbar... it was doing just fine there.
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PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:22:00 -
[157] - Quote
Mechael wrote:PinkKnife wrote:Mechael wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period. If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money. They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things? It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win?
I'm not talking about using Plex, I'm talking about microtransactions for avatar things.
Plex is a different scenario. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:23:00 -
[158] - Quote
PinkKnife wrote:Mechael wrote:PinkKnife wrote:Mechael wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period. If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money. They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things? It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win? I'm not talking about using Plex, I'm talking about microtransactions for avatar things. Plex is a different scenario.
It's basically the same. Whether you're selling a PLEX for ISK or selling some t-shirt for ISK, it's still a pay-to-win scenario. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:25:00 -
[159] - Quote
This is excellent news.
I'm guessing this will be in one of the later releases? http://i.imgur.com/L6RVD.jpg
Want to buy Corp Insignia Hologram Pendant / Lapel pin. Probably not a simple thing. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
279
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:27:00 -
[160] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:Can I have a blood stained lab coat? Lots of good suggestions in this thread. Keep them coming.
How about some skirts of varying sizes and styles for the ladies? And maybe some less conservative options for up top to go along with it... |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
458
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:29:00 -
[161] - Quote
Valerie Tessel wrote:This is excellent news. I'm guessing this will be in one of the later release? http://i.imgur.com/L6RVD.jpgWant to buy Corp Insignia Hologram Pendant / Lapel pin. Probably not a simple thing.
Dude(ette) your boobs
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
410
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:29:00 -
[162] - Quote
**** the NEx, **** Aurum, and give a good, hard errrm..."talking-to..." to whoever thought that travesty up.
That's all I have to say about that! In irae, veritas. |
Jonah Gravenstein
471
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:30:00 -
[163] - Quote
Valerie Tessel wrote:This is excellent news. I'm guessing this will be in one of the later release? http://i.imgur.com/L6RVD.jpgWant to buy Corp Insignia Hologram Pendant / Lapel pin. Probably not a simple thing.
AntiGravity Bra, because those boobs will touch your knees without one
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
226
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:33:00 -
[164] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked.
Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch.
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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
27
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:34:00 -
[165] - Quote
The overwhelming positive reactions here say it all! Inferno is looking much better between this and the ship/mining changes feedback.
J3ssica Alba wrote:new industrialist job : tailor.
That was the inspiration to the last name here.
The prices here fairly closely reflects the ISK value and reflects other games costume/outfit packs which is what I (and some others) have been rallying for. The lowering of the price of AUR instead of lowering the prices of the items will keep people who already have a full wardrobe happy. The current apparel items will (hopefully) represent the highest end of the spectrum that the early adopters can proudly wear.
I can't believe I didn't even consider LP items, which is brilliant! The red satin Sterling looks fantastic and has been easily the item I have been looking the most forward to. As long as these items are sell/tradeable like everything in EVE so far, this might actually be one of the more lucrative items for people earning LP points for ISK profit. It will be interesting to see how the demand of LP apparel will factor in the prices!
Thank you CCP and CSM, looking forward to finally buying some AUR. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
236
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:35:00 -
[166] - Quote
CCP spending 3% of their resources to make avatar clothes is no big deal IMO On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Aphoxema G
My Little Rifter
304
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[167] - Quote
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Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
67
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:43:00 -
[168] - Quote
Suggestions:
The currently existing jewelry, earrings in particular. It'd be nice if it had an option to twinkle ever so slightly. A bit like the stars in eve, in space. Nothing over the top, extremely low key.
If at all reasonable / simple to design, - dog tags for more militaristic characters perhaps? |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:46:00 -
[169] - Quote
Mechael wrote:PinkKnife wrote:Mechael wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:The rage was because of several reasons 1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better 2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage 3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here 4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"
If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period. If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money. They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things? It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win?
Because all the isk in the world still won't save you from getting ganked. The most powerfully rich people in the game didn't get that way from buying PLEX, you know? They got rich through in-game means. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
28
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:46:00 -
[170] - Quote
One other thing. Please don't charge much for the Avenue and Functions shirts since they do look much like the standard gear and I think people will find it hard to spend any amount of money on them. The structure dress on the other hand is very nice and probably worth the price of a top and a bottom. |
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Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine
23
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:47:00 -
[171] - Quote
Im not going buy anything with AUR ever ...but truth to be said those look good |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
122
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:49:00 -
[172] - Quote
Cpt Arareb wrote:Im not going buy anything with AUR ever ...but truth to be said those look good
Agreed. Awesome stuff ruined by Aurum. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
810
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:53:00 -
[173] - Quote
I think this all sounds really good. As usual the tears are flowing but I think some people just like to cry. CCP, you guys are doing a bang up job and I really like everything we've seen from you this year. You are doing it right!
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Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:55:00 -
[174] - Quote
Damn, I thought and hoped the NEX store was going to be quietly removed and CCP actually instate proper sandbox methods to get the clothing (loot drops they are doing, but really, they should be earnable through LP or made by players).
Shame really, as I still feel rl-money-for-items is completely at odds with the entire concept of the EVE universe and should never ever have made it in game, especially after the CCP promises they weren't adding it and even mocking games that had MT. |
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
37
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:55:00 -
[175] - Quote
In contrary to the cheaper stuff you might want to buy cos it looks good, will we see some multi PLEX valuable limited pants for those who realy got the isk to spend but dont want to be look at me i have a cheap unlimited monocle.
Also can you please give very small numbers of unique unimportant clothing to the winers of the AT. Posibly some for the runner ups. (example 12ea for finalists, 6ea for semi finalists) |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
729
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:55:00 -
[176] - Quote
Myxx wrote:I'll say this one final time: **** off with your microtransactions. Everything should be producable by players for ingame resources.
truth |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
729
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:56:00 -
[177] - Quote
Buzzmong wrote:Damn, I thought and hoped the NEX store was going to be quietly removed and CCP actually instate proper sandbox methods to get the clothing (loot drops they are doing, but really, they should be earnable through LP or made by players). I see they're also still completely invulnerable and even survive pod death, the only type of items to do so Shame really, as I still feel rl-money-for-items is completely at odds with the entire concept of the EVE universe and should never ever have made it in game, especially after the CCP promises they weren't adding it and even mocking games that had MT.
and this |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8006
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:57:00 -
[178] - Quote
Gogela wrote:CCP, you guys are doing a bang up job and I really like everything we've seen from you this year. GǪof course, all of this is over a year old.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Silath Slyver Silverpine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:57:00 -
[179] - Quote
Well, this was somewhat more reasonably put out than your first effort, CCP. Good to see you learning from your mistakes ;) Keep the prices reasonable (between .50 cents and $3 depending on the item seems pretty standard) and the development of items as a side focus and I think people will be much more receptive to the NEX store.
Personally I don't have the money to blow on Aurum but if other people want to that's their business. I never really thought the NEX thing was that big of a deal in the first place, until the arrogance showed in dealing with it's immediate aftermath. But that's in the past. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
90
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:59:00 -
[180] - Quote
The new clothing releases sound spot on. Much much better price points.
In the future have them able to be destroyed and part of loot drops on podding? When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
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Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:00:00 -
[181] - Quote
Solhild wrote:Myxx wrote:I'll say this one final time: **** off with your microtransactions. Everything should be producable by players for ingame resources. truth
Double-quoted for profundity.
That is the nature of EVE. Microtransactions slap it in the face.
EVE Online. The sandbox game that doesn't have the balls to be a real sandbox. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3993
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:04:00 -
[182] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Is aurum ever going to be transferable?
This would be bad. It would allow for account farmers to drain your credit card quite a bit.
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CCP Unifex
C C P C C P Alliance
147
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:06:00 -
[183] - Quote
Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future.
So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription.
Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live Senior Producer of EVE Online |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
411
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:08:00 -
[184] - Quote
Myxx wrote:I'll say this one final time: **** off with your microtransactions. Everything should be producable by players for ingame resources.
^^Troof!^^ In irae, veritas. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
729
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:11:00 -
[185] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live
Vastly oversimplified and misses the point.
edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:14:00 -
[186] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live
NPC Seeded has always been the good fall-back when we don't have a particularly sensible way to allow players to create things yet. I think maybe my hackles raised a little too high for me to properly digest this part of the blog. Thanks for clarifying, Unifex.
I've never particularly cared for loot drops (in any scenario outside of PvP) because, once again, it's something coming from nothing. Maybe one day we'll figure out how to move away from a faucet/sink system, but since that day is not today, I guess this is understandable as well.
The NeX store though ...
Anyway, thanks for helping clarify things. Cheers! I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2518
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:16:00 -
[187] - Quote
Evelgrivion wrote: I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think?
I'd say I don't think you understand the point of Aurum.
The way you get Aurum for isk is by saving up, buying a PLEX, and converting it to Aurum. That way you get Aurum goods without spending anything more for Eve Online than you already are.
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
805
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:19:00 -
[188] - Quote
Im between of my meaner mooded cousin, I will say that, if you ever start to do NEW assets, it would be sweet to get the following for the girls:
- actual earrings (studs, hoops, drops, chandeliers) - stockings/tights/socks to wear along with skirts/dresses - lower necklines for proper decolletage & kiss good-bye shirtless jackets - lavander/violet/plum lipstick & eye shadow - fantasy hair colors (blue, yellow, red, green...) - small ttattoos to be worn on the arms (I wonder how it's easier to get a Yakuza sleeve tattoo than a "I <3 Veldpsar" one... and WrTF do they recruit capsuleers nowadays?)
EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
16
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:30:00 -
[189] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:What about making corp medals represented on the character model?
This idea is awesome!
Someone else mentioned something to wear for completeing the tutorial. I think it would be appropriate to convert the certificate you get at the end of the tutorial into a wearable medal. As it is it usually just clutters up the asset page of your first character *literally forever*. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3993
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:33:00 -
[190] - Quote
Can we get more headwear possibly? Like hats and other styles of glasses (like normal types of frames or even square frames or maybe jordie la forge inspired specs for futuristic.
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None ofthe Above
221
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:37:00 -
[191] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Evelgrivion wrote: I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think? I'd say I don't think you understand the point of Aurum. The way you get Aurum for isk is by saving up, buying a PLEX, and converting it to Aurum. That way you get Aurum goods without spending anything more for Eve Online than you already are.
Not sure anyone understands the point of Aurum. Not sure if Aurum has a point.
You can buy AUR with PLEX or cash you can purchase goods and then sell them for ISK; you can use ISK or cash to buy PLEX. Why bother with Aurum? Its just another weird thing in the game that could probably be eliminated as needless complexity.
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
745
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:43:00 -
[192] - Quote
I'll reserve judgment until I see what is 100 aurum but for the life of me I don't know why we can't just ******* make everything 99 cents and be done with it. Why must we over ******* complicate what ought to be fun and cheap? |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
1068
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:44:00 -
[193] - Quote
thanks for the nice devblog- to be honest I have never read a devblog that sounded so apologetic, almost afraid..
I have just one question: Exactly how likely is it that we will get vanity skins for ships in the nearer future? Does it make sense to save my aurum for that possible painted sharkmouth that I have been dreaming of since day 1 in eve or will the only ever use for aurum be clothes? -.- |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
157
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:49:00 -
[194] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first. When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character. You can even spin people! I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice
Would it be weird to contract some of the more "exotic" outfits to CCP Punkturis?
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
150
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Posted - 2012.06.15 22:59:00 -
[195] - Quote
Hmm as long it's vanity items only It's all good. There are lots of people that want the new clothing, I can't say its something that rings my bell but i'm certainly not against it in principle.
The moment someone offers game changing stuff, we burn the momument T hats been well established and I believe CCP has said that they wont do game altering stuff through Aurum or P2W.
Sooo bring on the new cloths, I still want my flame paint job for my rifter - hopefully this stuff can be funded through dev time paid for through the Nex thing. All good. Deep breath. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
222
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:03:00 -
[196] - Quote
Maraner wrote:Hmm as long it's vanity items only It's all good. There are lots of people that want the new clothing, I can't say its something that rings my bell but i'm certainly not against it in principle. The moment someone offers game changing stuff, we burn the momument T hats been well established and I believe CCP has said that they wont do game altering stuff through Aurum or P2W. Sooo bring on the new cloths, I still want my flame paint job for my rifter - hopefully this stuff can be funded through dev time paid for through the Nex thing. All good. Deep breath.
Yes, the problem before was they were wasting time ******* around trying to milk their playerbase when they had a game so broken on many levels.
And here they are again, new unified inventory that makes everything harder to do and creates a mess. Yet here comes space barbie. |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
84
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:05:00 -
[197] - Quote
I still hate Aurum and micro-transaction with the fire of a thousand dying suns... but the release of assets is always fine, and the reduction in insane prices/smaller chunks of Aurum is at least conciliatory. Dropping them as loot is even better. This doesn't hurt anything, and I know there are people who want it. So no pitchforks.
But I'll bet there are plenty of industrialists who would gladly take over your textile operations, and make those items just like all the other in-game, player made items. I would beseech you to seed the clothing blueprints (patterns?) over into the market round about the time you strip the NPCs of their commodities and other sundries. A purely player built, player run economy would be incredible. |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
157
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:06:00 -
[198] - Quote
Olleybear wrote:The new clothing releases sound spot on. Much much better price points. In the future have them able to be destroyed and part of loot drops on podding?
include singe marks, blood stains and bullet holes in the out fit after it been though a podding
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
157
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:15:00 -
[199] - Quote
I would love to see an opportunity for players to donate graphical assets to for use with in the NEX store.
CCP would set the Parameters for what level of quality, style, and type of item That can be created.
If the item gets approved would receive a cut of Aurum to Spend as those donated items were purchased by other players.
This would inject long term Player content into the game.
Negatives: I can see 3 people from Test and Goons working together to make 6 art object submissions that if place just right and looked at a certain angle would make a *****. The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
157
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:21:00 -
[200] - Quote
I am really fancy for the idea of a tailoring Profession. Have some of the cloths being sold as BPCs
To gather resources I think during Dust Battles a Merc could scoop collectable that could be salvaged and put at a resource collection area. The team that wins keeps the resources they collected.
These resources could be used for Tailoring.
Or There is an NPC Contract Mission called shoot the tailor where you play a merc for a faction collecting materials to build a certain item of clothing. You "Are" The tailor, And have to avoid the local opposition to collect the goods. Hey some people are not that smart with money when they get that rich. The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
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Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
541
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:29:00 -
[201] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live
What do you not get about **** off with the microtransactions? Its quite simple. Get rid of them. The entire concept of the nobel exchange is a giant insult to EVE. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
466
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:32:00 -
[202] - Quote
Myxx wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live What do you not get about **** off with the microtransactions? Its quite simple. Get rid of them. The entire concept of the nobel exchange is a giant insult to EVE.
I don't really mind it as long as it is just cosmetic.
I think ccp has the right balance with incarna now. Lots of fis stuff coming out and every now and then posting about a new set of clothes or whatever.
I say great job ccp! Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Alain Kinsella
120
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:34:00 -
[203] - Quote
Aeril Malkyre wrote:But I'll bet there are plenty of industrialists who would gladly take over your textile operations, and make those items just like all the other in-game, player made items. I would beseech you to seed the clothing blueprints (patterns?) over into the market round about the time you strip the NPCs of their commodities and other sundries. A purely player built, player run economy would be incredible.
Yep, I know several groups - in between There.com and SL - who do good work, and may be interested in this kind of thing. So long as they can find a way to get payment that will afford PLEXs.
Seriously, some of the more hardcore folks inSL use Wacom tablets, since its excruciating using a mouse to paint for long periods of time.
-=-=-=-=-
Regarding NeX, I'l again mention a couple suggestions:
-> Consider creating 'multi-color clothing' (allow you to change colors on the item), if needed restrict them to specific racials/faction core colors. They can be priced higher for a lower 'quality' item, because you're actually selling a small wardrobe pack. Make sure its a generic collection item, so new colors released are automatically seeded into existing purchase.
-> While you're on the subject of faction-LP clothing, consider extending this to ORE, SoE and the pirate factions. Actually, have an SoE shirt be the NPE item (as reminder to push you on to Arnon - put on the back 'Arnon or Bust').
-> Are the faction decals on V3 ships independent of the other layers? I mentioned in another forum that (as a long-term idea) it would be interesting to place a different faction decal on a ship (using LP + ISK or AUR, plus standings). Its not re-skinning, and it would be very amusing to fly an Ammatar Fleet Thrasher into Rens and see if anyone notices.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:34:00 -
[204] - Quote
Solhild wrote:edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX This isn't happening. The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game. |
Rikula
Opur
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:40:00 -
[205] - Quote
Quote: Existing items from before June 19th will remain in the store, for now, at the current prices so that we donGÇÖt devalue the investment that some players have already made
Please ensure you never permanently lower the prices (and keep sales to a short time, if you must do them - I'd rather you not have them at all!). The "for now" part in the quote above worries me.
Players do not control the market for clothes Aurum prices, so please give us some stability and protection of investments. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
187
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:44:00 -
[206] - Quote
None ofthe Above wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Evelgrivion wrote: I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.
At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.
What do you think? I'd say I don't think you understand the point of Aurum. The way you get Aurum for isk is by saving up, buying a PLEX, and converting it to Aurum. That way you get Aurum goods without spending anything more for Eve Online than you already are. Not sure anyone understands the point of Aurum. Not sure if Aurum has a point. You can buy AUR with PLEX or cash you can purchase goods and then sell them for ISK; you can use ISK or cash to buy PLEX. Why bother with Aurum? Its just another weird thing in the game that could probably be eliminated as needless complexity.
The point of AUR is to be a PLEX sink; PLEX destroyed are PLEX that aren't financial liabilities to CCP. Money for AUR only affects those who were previously spending money on PLEX with the intention of breaking them into AUR (thus the PLEX weren't a long term liability because they were destroyed as soon as they were created). |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:44:00 -
[207] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Solhild wrote:edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX Tyberius Franklin wrote:This isn't happening. In a very real sense, it is. I can pay real money for (items which come from literally nowhere that I can sell for) ISK. Tyberius Franklin wrote:The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture We should give them one, and be done with this insulting Aurum business. [quote=Tyberius Franklin] and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game.
Couldn't be more wrong here. Real money should not equal ISK. Ever. Even if it's just paying a penny once a year to get 0.01 ISK (at which point, who really cares except for people with ethics who understand the principle of the thing?) Unless of course we want to compromise the integrity of this virtual world and make it into something that is basically a whole lot more like Second Life.
Aurum is insulting. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
89
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:51:00 -
[208] - Quote
Brunaburh wrote:Second?
A reasonable price point for clothing, and loot drops and FW LP clothing?
No development time to make said clothes?
Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt...
What part of the clothing is already developed did you not understand? Yeesh..
Anyway, thanks guys, any time frame on a full release of all the clothing stock? Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
89
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:52:00 -
[209] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:This isn't happening. In a very real sense, it is. I can pay real money for (items which come from literally nowhere that I can sell for) ISK. Tyberius Franklin wrote:The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture We should give them one, and be done with this insulting Aurum business. Tyberius Franklin wrote: and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game. Couldn't be more wrong here. Real money should not equal ISK. Ever. Even if it's just paying a penny once a year to get 0.01 ISK (at which point, who really cares except for people with ethics who understand the principle of the thing?) Unless of course we want to compromise the integrity of this virtual world and make it into something that is basically a whole lot more like Second Life. Aurum is insulting.
One word: Idiot Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:53:00 -
[210] - Quote
Mechael wrote: Couldn't be more wrong here. Real money should not equal ISK. Ever. Even if it's just paying a penny once a year to get 0.01 ISK (at which point, who really cares except for people with ethics who understand the principle of the thing?) Unless of course we want to compromise the integrity of this virtual world and make it into something that is basically a whole lot more like Second Life.
We are far too late for this argument. PLEX created this precedent. PLEX evolved and perpetuated it in incarna when Aurum was created. Like PLEX, Aurum is not isk. PLEX and Aurum represent purchase outside the game and provide a resource that doesn't directly affect gameplay mechanics inside the game.
Mechael wrote:Aurum is insulting. I respectfully disagree. |
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Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
280
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:57:00 -
[211] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:This isn't happening. In a very real sense, it is. I can pay real money for (items which come from literally nowhere that I can sell for) ISK. Tyberius Franklin wrote:The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture We should give them one, and be done with this insulting Aurum business. Tyberius Franklin wrote: and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game. Couldn't be more wrong here. Real money should not equal ISK. Ever. Even if it's just paying a penny once a year to get 0.01 ISK (at which point, who really cares except for people with ethics who understand the principle of the thing?) Unless of course we want to compromise the integrity of this virtual world and make it into something that is basically a whole lot more like Second Life. Aurum is insulting.
you cant really say it comes from nowhere. When you buy a PLEX with cash, it represents the service of Game Time from CCP. you can then choose to sell that service for Isk or Aurum. Nothing is being created from thin air... something of value is indeed being exchanged for something else of value. If you consider this pay to win, then nobody can help you. Game time has value in Isk and real money, and you have been able to use real money to make it isk for a long time now.... Attaching aurum to this equation is not game breaking. You can use this system to turn your isk into aurum, just like you can turn it into plex.
There is nothing they are introducing, even the stuff for aurum only, that you cannot get by using your isk to turn it into your new shiney...
Now if you are going to get mad about some clothing popping into existence out of "thin air", then you also need to advocate the elimination of all NPC loot drops. let that one sink in for a moment. How far down that rabbit hole do you want to go? Remove all NPC agent rewards too? Their isk and rewards popped into existence out of nowhere. They didn't buy that stuff off the market. Where do you want to draw this line here? |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
28
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Posted - 2012.06.15 23:58:00 -
[212] - Quote
Rikula wrote: Please ensure you never permanently lower the prices (and keep sales to a short time, if you must do them - I'd rather you not have them at all!). The "for now" part in the quote above worries me.
Players do not control the market for clothes Aurum prices, so please give us some stability and protection of investments.
I think the implication is that the launch lineup will stay at their inflated AUR prices until they go out of production.I am also under the impression that the new items are being sold at their current retail prices, so nothing is currently discounted. The current AUR for PLEX is fairly close to how much the future AUR for cash prices are going for.
The implication is also that stuff will go out of production, so that should help protect your investment and bring the value of the launch NEX items closer to their current AUR prices which are dramatically lower in ISK value.
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Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
541
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:06:00 -
[213] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Mechael wrote: Couldn't be more wrong here. Real money should not equal ISK. Ever. Even if it's just paying a penny once a year to get 0.01 ISK (at which point, who really cares except for people with ethics who understand the principle of the thing?) Unless of course we want to compromise the integrity of this virtual world and make it into something that is basically a whole lot more like Second Life.
We are far too late for this argument. PLEX created this precedent. PLEX evolved and perpetuated it in incarna when Aurum was created. Like PLEX, Aurum is not isk. PLEX and Aurum represent purchase outside the game and provide a resource that doesn't directly affect gameplay mechanics inside the game. They do, however, both provide a value for which some are willing to trade isk. Mechael wrote:Aurum is insulting. I respectfully disagree. Disagree all you like, it does not change that it takes potential content away from players. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
403
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:13:00 -
[214] - Quote
Solhild wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live Vastly oversimplified and misses the point. edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX
wow no one mention to solhild that there is plex he'd be REAL mad... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
tech III industrial ships! |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:15:00 -
[215] - Quote
Maul555 wrote:Now if you are going to get mad about some clothing popping into existence out of "thin air", then you also need to advocate the elimination of all NPC loot drops. let that one sink in for a moment. How far down that rabbit hole do you want to go? Remove all NPC agent rewards too? Their isk and rewards popped into existence out of nowhere. They didn't buy that stuff off the market. Where do you want to draw this line here?
This should be the ideal to shoot for, honestly. NPC rats spawning from oblivion has never made a lick of sense. It's a theme-park element inside the sandbox, and while it may have been a nice band-aid way back in the day before EVE had any real PvE content, it should never have been a long-term solution. I'd be ecstatic if CCP announced that they were doing away with missions entirely and were developing a way to allow the players themselves to manage EVE's economy (read: no more faucet/sink system.) We'd be a lot closer to a true sandbox, a true ultimate science fiction simulator if we managed to do that. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:16:00 -
[216] - Quote
Myxx wrote:Disagree all you like, it does not change that it takes potential content away from players. I can agree with this. Having clothing be NPC seeded through the Aurum is a lost potential profession. Though, considering it is a potential loss and not an actual loss, and also that there are other things I'd rather have CCP doing, many of which they are in one form or another, I'd rather they didn't take alot of time to remove the NEX and even more trying to create another series of supporting assets for an entire new trade profession that in the end produces a product that STILL adds nothing directly to gameplay. |
Sirinda
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
98
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:22:00 -
[217] - Quote
Yay! I can play Dress-Up Online again! =D
On the somewhat related topic of more tattoos, when are we getting those? We are getting them eventually, yes? |
Kern Hotha
14
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:27:00 -
[218] - Quote
Please give me a way to delete aurum from my wallet without spending it. I don't want to buy anything from the store. I just want aurum gone from my wallet so that I can pretend it never existed. Middle age is when your broad mind and narrow waist begin to change places. -E. Joseph Cossman |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
280
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:33:00 -
[219] - Quote
Kern Hotha wrote:Please give me a way to delete aurum from my wallet without spending it. I don't want to buy anything from the store. I just want aurum gone from my wallet so that I can pretend it never existed.
Please give him a way to give me all his aurum. I want to help my capsuleers in need. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:34:00 -
[220] - Quote
Kern Hotha wrote:Please give me a way to delete aurum from my wallet without spending it. I don't want to buy anything from the store. I just want aurum gone from my wallet so that I can pretend it never existed.
I actually petitioned this once, and they told me that it wouldn't make sense for them to delete it from my wallet since they were just going to give me more for free anyway. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
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Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
150
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:41:00 -
[221] - Quote
Yup, for those that dont want to even see the Aurum, an option/tick box to remove it shouldn't be an issue, not gonna happen though.
Look at the rage over the new UI, literally thousands of post and no roll back, just incremental improvements back to what we had before ( if we are lucky) , CCP aint gonna take Aurum out, and the NEX store or whatever it's called is staying. and tbh as long as it is purely cosmetic who cares.
The important stuff is that it does not take away dev time from fixing the core issues that need to be addressed, if the money they make from it is ring fenced to fund more cosmetic stuff, fine. I suspect that when they finally arrive that corporation and alliance logo's on ships will cost you Aurum (unless someone has said otherwise - please feel free to correct me).
Overall I'm glad it's in the game, it adds texture and depth and there are a lot of people that like this stuff, the moment I see gold ammo or P2W game effecting mechanic I suspect it may finish of EVE for many of us.
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Dawiid BenAimaic
Dasa Fern Valley Jamaican Rum Transport Corp
13
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:42:00 -
[222] - Quote
i want a blueprint to manufacture clothing. I want everyone in my corp to wear the corp uniform. i want the door in my quarters to open. I want my corp logo painted on my ship. If your pod blows up, you lose your suit. Aurum? I have some but I don't know how I got it or what to do with it. I expect everyone in my corp will end up wearing second hand pirate clothes dropped by belt rats.
I have four children and all five of us enjoy the game. Keep up the great work!
Three out of four of my children have refused to kill the Heiress! |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
124
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Posted - 2012.06.16 00:45:00 -
[223] - Quote
I like the cosmetic stuff, too, honestly. It's great, and helps add to the depth and scope of the game. It increases immersion. However, the impact that it could have is nearly completely over-ridden by the fact that every time I see a monocle I cringe and feel that bitter-vet forming deep in my soul that I never really wanted to be there in the first place. Thank you, microtransactions, for ruining what could have been pretty great. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Joe Everyguy
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:00:00 -
[224] - Quote
Mechael wrote: Aurum needs to be removed, and failing that it needs to be left alone to fade away into obscurity.
Quoted for emphasis. |
yucci
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:03:00 -
[225] - Quote
Tracking Enhancer monocle ? DPS Pants, or Super tank boots, then I might use Aurum, otherwise i'll just ignore it. |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:05:00 -
[226] - Quote
yucci wrote:Tracking Enhancer monocle ? DPS Pants, or Super tank boots, then I might use Aura, otherwise i'll just ignore it. Super Tank Top, preferably. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
46
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:10:00 -
[227] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first. When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character. You can even spin people! I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice
You can spin people?
*Testing*
Why is there no count on the amount of spins?... |
Tequila Breeze
Austudy The Welfare State
36
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:16:00 -
[228] - Quote
Corp and Alliance logo jackets and tournament logo jackets and a jacket marking each year in game, sort of stuff ? A jacket that drips blood all over when your walking around in your CQ works off your killboard count. :)
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Rikula
Opur
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:24:00 -
[229] - Quote
Celeste Taylor wrote:
I think the implication is that the launch lineup will stay at their inflated AUR prices until they go out of production.I am also under the impression that the new items are being sold at their current retail prices, so nothing is currently discounted. The current AUR for PLEX is fairly close to how much the future AUR for cash prices are going for.
The implication is also that stuff will go out of production, so that should help protect your investment and bring the value of the launch NEX items closer to their current AUR prices which are dramatically lower in ISK value.
That reading had crossed my mind, but the statement is ambiguous. Your interpretation is certainly plausible, but I said what I did just in case the other interpretation was correct.
Indeed taking them off the market would be better for those who have invested! Especially if they do that *before* allowing players to transfer AUR (monocles and marshal coats will drastically devalue if AUR transfer between players is enabled before they are removed). |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
587
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Posted - 2012.06.16 03:08:00 -
[230] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch.
Pls make an unsub thread like the rest of the whiners the moment those clothes come into the Nexfail
Only a few devs do other stuff then working on Spaceflight The majority of them is trying to please idiots like you and working on the spacepart of this game. So crying for mommy that CCP is doing ohter stuff is idiotic
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
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Lost True
Paradise project
28
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Posted - 2012.06.16 03:36:00 -
[231] - Quote
At last, something interesting Waiting for a patch... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Lost True
Paradise project
28
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Posted - 2012.06.16 03:44:00 -
[232] - Quote
Whiners - STFU and go fly your spaceships.
There is a people who really wants to customize their characters more. It's a fact.
And if there will be an items that i really like - i don't give a damn how much it's will cost. And more than that: i prefer that items that i like will be in a high price class, so there will be less ppl wearing the same clothes. Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Bulyeowoo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:00:00 -
[233] - Quote
Lost True wrote:Whiners - STFU and go fly your spaceships.
There is a people who really wants to customize their characters more. It's a fact.
And if there will be an items that i really like - i don't give a damn how much it's will cost. And more than that: i prefer that items that i like will be in a high price class, so there will be less ppl wearing the same clothes. Not everyone is rich. I would rather they keep the prices below $5 for everything. |
RAP ACTION HERO
92
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:03:00 -
[234] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. Pls make an unsub thread like the rest of the whiners the moment those clothes come into the Nexfail Only a few devs do other stuff then working on Spaceflight The majority of them is trying to please idiots like you and working on the spacepart of this game. So crying for mommy that CCP is doing ohter stuff is idiotic lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
884
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:24:00 -
[235] - Quote
yay!
NEX IS DEAD. no more 70$ bullshit, how in the world did CCP think that was a good idea? and you know whats scary? they had 200 more items to sell fully finished art. So that means they will going to price all of that for real money at real life prices.
Now hopefully we will see more and more NON NEX WiS stuff.Nex is terrible. Oh and on that note, please release free versions of everything in the nex store, and then release special color dyes and variations for the Nex Store. This is how it alwasy should of been, I'm pretty sure they thought the NeX store was going to be so popular it would replace the income for the game. When in fact it should be an addition to a game. selling things like dust does. Oh boy the same thing but red! i want it! for money!
Having so much stuff locked away in a cash shop, in a pay to play mmo is beyond stupid so much it makes me want to hurt things. : / Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Saracena
Infinatech
12
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:27:00 -
[236] - Quote
Tequila Breeze wrote:any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ?
What she said.
Will actually use my AUR if that's what I can get.
edit: and honestly, if you think more clothes is gonna do it for the nex store, meh. Look at the numbers in a month. Add the option to buy back old ui or breast implants and you will see that **** get spent pdq. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
884
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:28:00 -
[237] - Quote
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. Pls make an unsub thread like the rest of the whiners the moment those clothes come into the Nexfail Only a few devs do other stuff then working on Spaceflight The majority of them is trying to please idiots like you and working on the spacepart of this game. So crying for mommy that CCP is doing ohter stuff is idiotic lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover
see this confuses me, how you like playing eve and not like the idea that eve is becoming a huge sci fi simulator... Are you just not a fun person? Hate games with avatars? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Lost True
Paradise project
29
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:36:00 -
[238] - Quote
Bulyeowoo wrote:Lost True wrote:Whiners - STFU and go fly your spaceships.
There is a people who really wants to customize their characters more. It's a fact.
And if there will be an items that i really like - i don't give a damn how much it's will cost. And more than that: i prefer that items that i like will be in a high price class, so there will be less ppl wearing the same clothes. Not everyone is rich. I would rather they keep the prices below $5 for everything. But it's will be deadly boring if everyone will be equal...
Of course there should be enough items for cheap, normal and high categories, so everyone will be satisfied. Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
884
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Posted - 2012.06.16 04:43:00 -
[239] - Quote
Maraner wrote:Yup, for those that dont want to even see the Aurum, an option/tick box to remove it shouldn't be an issue, not gonna happen though.
Look at the rage over the new UI, literally thousands of post and no roll back, just incremental improvements back to what we had before ( if we are lucky) , CCP aint gonna take Aurum out, and the NEX store or whatever it's called is staying. and tbh as long as it is purely cosmetic who cares.
The important stuff is that it does not take away dev time from fixing the core issues that need to be addressed, if the money they make from it is ring fenced to fund more cosmetic stuff, fine. I suspect that when they finally arrive that corporation and alliance logo's on ships will cost you Aurum (unless someone has said otherwise - please feel free to correct me).
Overall I'm glad it's in the game, it adds texture and depth and there are a lot of people that like this stuff, the moment I see gold ammo or P2W game effecting mechanic I suspect it may finish of EVE for many of us.
um.... a dev used his access to the forums master code to check that claim. In all of the rage thread there were only a total of 140 users posting. You know they can see through alt posts right?
oh and not all of those 140 were raging at the new UI. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2077
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Posted - 2012.06.16 05:02:00 -
[240] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:yay!
NEX IS DEAD. no more 70$ bullshit, how in the world did CCP think that was a good idea? and you know whats scary? they had 200 more items to sell fully finished art. So that means they will going to price all of that for real money at real life prices.
Now hopefully we will see more and more NON NEX WiS stuff.Nex is terrible. Oh and on that note, please release free versions of everything in the nex store, and then release special color dyes and variations for the Nex Store. This is how it alwasy should of been, I'm pretty sure they thought the NeX store was going to be so popular it would replace the income for the game. When in fact it should be an addition to a game. selling things like dust does. Oh boy the same thing but red! i want it! for money!
Having so much stuff locked away in a cash shop, in a pay to play mmo is beyond stupid so much it makes me want to hurt things. : /
Mother, keep in mind that most people won't be paying cash for those items in the Nex. My purchases have been, and will continue to be, done via ISK... thereby helping out someone who gave CCP some cash so they could have more ISK to play with.
I've helped that PLEX buyer, I've helped CCP, and I've indulged myself (and/or my wife).
That's pretty much a win, win, win and possible nookie situation. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
357
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Posted - 2012.06.16 05:07:00 -
[241] - Quote
will loot-drop avatar clothing be destructable when you're podded, and if not, is this a bad thing? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
126
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Posted - 2012.06.16 05:11:00 -
[242] - Quote
Ris Dnalor wrote:will loot-drop avatar clothing be destructable when you're podded, and if not, is this a bad thing?
If it's not player made AND destructible, it's less than ideal. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
729
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Posted - 2012.06.16 05:51:00 -
[243] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Solhild wrote:edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX This isn't happening. The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game.
So that history or those mechanics can never happen now. |
Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
262
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:05:00 -
[244] - Quote
The ability to transfer Aurum between characters would be awesome. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2080
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:16:00 -
[245] - Quote
Solhild wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Solhild wrote:edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX This isn't happening. The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game. So that history or those mechanics can never happen now.
Of course they can, if CCP decides that is the way they want to go (and certain technical issues are resolved). Many items that were formerly only available from NPC's have been made player products, and with good results. There is no reason why it could not be done with many, if not all, Nex items in the future. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
412
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:16:00 -
[246] - Quote
Confirming I am immensely enjoying CCP's current focus on improving spaceships, and would love to buy a few new threads for my avatar on the side.
+1. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
590
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:22:00 -
[247] - Quote
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. Pls make an unsub thread like the rest of the whiners the moment those clothes come into the Nexfail Only a few devs do other stuff then working on Spaceflight The majority of them is trying to please idiots like you and working on the spacepart of this game. So crying for mommy that CCP is doing ohter stuff is idiotic lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover
Hey Ken,how are you? pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
2
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:45:00 -
[248] - Quote
Not gunna lie, once that door opens I plan on being the best-dressed mall walker in Jita 4-4. Those are some nice outfits. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
729
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:48:00 -
[249] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Solhild wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Solhild wrote:edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX This isn't happening. The items are of a type that has had absolutely no history of player manufacture and in no way is diminishing gameplay. Furthermore they have no effect or influence on other mechanics of the game. So that history or those mechanics can never happen now. Of course they can, if CCP decides that is the way they want to go (and certain technical issues are resolved). Many items that were formerly only available from NPC's have been made player products, and with good results. There is no reason why it could not be done with many, if not all, Nex items in the future.
True. I imagine when the decision comes it'll be hard to kill a cash earning store when these items are merged into the sandbox. Better gameplay and still earning cash through subs and PLEX but in a less obvious way. I doubt they'd ever get rid of the NeX store, it'll be like a wound that never heals! |
profundus fossura
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 06:49:00 -
[250] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:[quote=Katrina Bekers]As long as the work is already done, and the focus is *still* on spaceships, then... Why not? I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but if there's a market/playerbase for clothes, why not expanding our collective horizon?
Thank you.
That's the plan. The focus is still on spaceships. I'm very much on record as saying spaceships are our focus. Anything else we do will be in addition to focusing on spaceships.[/quote
Are POS included in the definition of spaceships for this purpose? |
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Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:04:00 -
[251] - Quote
No dev time sucked up and better pricing, i don't predict a riot.
However.. i will start shooting the monument again in Jita if you don't bring me my Cowboy hat ( pink ) , and Trenshcoat ( black / white cowprint )
A pimp-stick ( gold ) , would be bloody win to add to it |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
127
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:14:00 -
[252] - Quote
It's dangerous to go alone. Take this. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
759
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:16:00 -
[253] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character. You can even spin people! I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Okay, how many other people rushed to see what Punkturis was wearing?
Also could use a spin counter.
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Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:21:00 -
[254] - Quote
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. Pls make an unsub thread like the rest of the whiners the moment those clothes come into the Nexfail Only a few devs do other stuff then working on Spaceflight The majority of them is trying to please idiots like you and working on the spacepart of this game. So crying for mommy that CCP is doing ohter stuff is idiotic lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover
Yes i saw. But she is just a little angry girl from Hello Kitty and Space Barbie Online. :P
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1299
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:22:00 -
[255] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this.
Could you please add to your long term plans the ability to trade and reverse redeem Aurum back to RL money?
This would motivate people to finally learn how economy works (beginning from the "what I mine myself is free") and to finally make EvE is REAL a truth.
There are other sci-fi games like Entropia that already have this feature, I'd love to have it in EvE too. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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RAP ACTION HERO
92
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:27:00 -
[256] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this. Could you please add to your long term plans the ability to trade and reverse redeem Aurum back to RL money? This would motivate people to finally learn how economy works (beginning from the "what I mine myself is free") and to finally make EvE is REAL a truth. There are other sci-fi games like Entropia that already have this feature, I'd love to have it in EvE too.
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo |
Sh'nara
Woof Club
11
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:31:00 -
[257] - Quote
This is a really great announcement. Releasing the items in this manner will be a great way to determine what players actually want - aside from listening to the forum rabble.
I look forward to the day that CCP can say, "Well, actually most players do want Incarna, and here are the statistics to prove it". |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
590
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:38:00 -
[258] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote: wrote:RAP ACTION HERO lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover Yes i saw. But she is just a little angry girl from Hello Kitty and Space Barbie Online. :P
Little Ken,s alt to the rescue pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Hyperforce99
LoneStar Development Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:40:00 -
[259] - Quote
Say I were to buy clothes for these new Aurum prices. I don't want to have to redo my portrait, And I like my portrait.
CCP are you going to add support to maintain your portrait pose any time soon? Its preventing me from buying virtual clothing for real money. |
Rikula
Opur
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:43:00 -
[260] - Quote
Hyperforce99 wrote:Say I were to buy clothes for these new Aurum prices. I don't want to have to redo my portrait, And I like my portrait.
CCP are you going to add support to maintain your portrait pose any time soon? Its preventing me from buying virtual clothing for real money.
My understanding is that this is already in. But I also suspect that if your pose was done before they implemented this, it won't remember it from that time.
But I could be mistaken. |
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Ta-Dam
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:49:00 -
[261] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ribikoka wrote: wrote:RAP ACTION HERO lol got called an idiot by a barbie dressup lover Yes i saw. But she is just a little angry girl from Hello Kitty and Space Barbie Online. :P Little Ken,s alt to the rescue
Stop posting or ask from CCP a virtual drug store too to your neurosis.
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
43
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Posted - 2012.06.16 07:57:00 -
[262] - Quote
I need pumps (pink or red ), mini-skirt or even hot-pants (pink hot-pants would be awesome) and ...
... the left eye monocle. I can't wait to see people with 2 monocles ! Or would they call them binocles ?
Anyway, great news !
Oh ... and CCP SOUNDWAVE picking clothes for the NEX store ? I bet you were using the dartboard in your local pub ! ... Or did you write the names of the clothes on the backside of the alliances names when you picked the alliances for the tourney ???
Jill.
EVE Racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164&find=unread
Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1512
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Posted - 2012.06.16 08:23:00 -
[263] - Quote
Thread cleaned of offtopic posts a bit. There are ways to get your point across without insulting your fellow players, so please keep it civil.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2012.06.16 08:39:00 -
[264] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked.
Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.06.16 08:54:00 -
[265] - Quote
Kern Hotha wrote:Please give me a way to delete aurum from my wallet without spending it. I don't want to buy anything from the store. I just want aurum gone from my wallet so that I can pretend it never existed.
You can do like ostriches do, dig a hole in the sand and put your head in it.
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
590
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Posted - 2012.06.16 08:58:00 -
[266] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch.
Ok we have to be civil then.
With all respect its best you unsub this game dear You saying the same things as those poor people talking about leaving this wonderfull game of love and shooting spaceships when they think they don,t have the attention from the devs .
only a few devs are working on other stuff then spaceships the majority is working on what you love ,dear misses Ribikoka namely spaceships So extra content doesn,t hurt this game that much
Best regards greetings from Oldbutfeelingyoung
fly safe dear
i hope this is civil enough
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
bornaa
GRiD.
230
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:16:00 -
[267] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Cearain wrote:Currently we can't tell an allied militia other than by checking in the corp etc.
It would be nice if these militia uniforms:
1) were offered for free to people who obtain top rank in faction war
2) could only be worn by people in the militia.
That way we could have a way to tell if somone is in an allied militia or not.
edit: -also neutrals would be able to tell if someone is in a militia too if they learn the uniforms. Good ideas here. Will pass them on to the stars working on FW.
Nice idea... give us a feeling of our militia guys... :)
And you can do the same thing when you add ship paint jobs. When you join militia you get paint jobs for your ships and you can use it only on your ships and only if you are in militia (whey you quit you loose your paint jobs). So we can see militia guys in the space and tell its our militia... :p That Ain't Right |
Untouchable Heart
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:23:00 -
[268] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch.
Agreed. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:34:00 -
[269] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch.
My mistake, cloths coming in june not in august. |
EmpireOfDust
Noir. Academy Noir. Mercenary Group
3
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:44:00 -
[270] - Quote
This is nice and all, but we still can't show off the items you want us to pay money for. Yes I understand that zero or little additional development time has gone into this but it would be better to release something like this along with some social interaction in Incarna. |
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:48:00 -
[271] - Quote
Untouchable Heart wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. Agreed.
For all respected and loved alts
pls keep in mind that the overlords of this fine,fine game namely CCP will keep you satisfied with the decision to keep their main focus on flying spaceships. Some addition made by our beloved CCP devs therefore can only be welcomed with a warm heart of love
that said ,back to topic .
My opinion on this is , sorry for you all that i have to put you up with my opinion. but i can,t find not another way to do it Being one of those that thinks that the nex should never be created,i hummble ask the devs to remove this mistake called the nex
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1299
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Posted - 2012.06.16 09:48:00 -
[272] - Quote
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo
Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is?
EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Ta-Dam
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:01:00 -
[273] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: For all respected and loved alts
pls keep in mind that the overlords of this fine,fine game namely CCP will keep you satisfied with the decision to keep their main focus on flying spaceships. Some addition made by our beloved CCP devs therefore can only be welcomed with a warm heart of love
that said ,back to topic .
My opinion on this is , sorry for you all that i have to put you up with my opinion. but i can,t find not another way to do it Being one of those that thinks that the nex should never be created,i hummble ask the devs to remove this mistake called the nex
edit F*** have to change my name Oldbutfeelingsuckingup after today
Obvious troll is obvious
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:05:00 -
[274] - Quote
Ta-Dam wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: For all respected and loved alts
pls keep in mind that the overlords of this fine,fine game namely CCP will keep you satisfied with the decision to keep their main focus on flying spaceships. Some addition made by our beloved CCP devs therefore can only be welcomed with a warm heart of love
that said ,back to topic .
My opinion on this is , sorry for you all that i have to put you up with my opinion. but i can,t find not another way to do it Being one of those that thinks that the nex should never be created,i hummble ask the devs to remove this mistake called the nex
edit F*** have to change my name Oldbutfeelingsuckingup after today
Obvious troll is obvious
Can,t help it i am sorry have to react civil don,t want my replies deleted And mister Spitfire is Boss around here pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Demolishar
United Aggression
250
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:31:00 -
[275] - Quote
Quote:We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client. We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.
Quote:really see what our players think
"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do"
Releasing some Aurum clothes that you already had made is one thing. Using the fact that people will generally accept this as "OK, it's not wasting development time" to justify wasting development time in the future on MORE aurum stuff is another. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
2596
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:39:00 -
[276] - Quote
Gevlin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first. When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character. You can even spin people! I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Would it be weird to contract some of the more "exotic" outfits to CCP Punkturis?
yes. Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:43:00 -
[277] - Quote
Demolishar wrote:Quote:We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client. We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions. Quote:really see what our players think "Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do" Releasing some Aurum clothes that you already had made is one thing. Using the fact that people will generally accept this as "OK, it's not wasting development time" to justify wasting development time in the future on MORE aurum stuff is another.
with all respect sir But CCP has already has his focus on spaceships and Dust those few Devs working on something else would not hurt this focus
So you could welcome additions to this wonderfull game without being afraid of resources pulled away from EVE pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.16 10:51:00 -
[278] - Quote
CCP Punkturis wrote:Gevlin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:Boffles wrote:One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ? There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first. When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character. You can even spin people! I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Would it be weird to contract some of the more "exotic" outfits to CCP Punkturis? yes.
Not at all sir You ,sir have a good choice of taste
and to the most loved Dev ,pls accept those contracts pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Pahah Pahineh
Universal Ally
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:11:00 -
[279] - Quote
Quote:We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.
ah jeez, here we go again. What's the matter Hilmar forgot what humble pie tastes like? |
Varg Krugar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:19:00 -
[280] - Quote
- militia uniforms could be allowed as outermost layer only while the character is in said militia. (corrolary: wearing your "old" militia uniform below a jacket/coat is fine for ex-militia people) - militia uniforms could auto-update to show the FW rank of the pilot (needs quite a bit of design/dev time)
- non-free clothes should be bound to the clone, like implants. loose a clone, loose the fancy clothes. avatar reverts back the the last free outfit worn upon cloning unless you still have another set of fancies in your med station locker. maybe add "torn fancies" as lootable trophy items at some point.
- "clothes should be made from BPCs": guess this could be bundled with the DUST514 gear production? i dont care much
- i tentatively approve of the "lets have an (optional) aurum market for anything", altho i'm sure the OTEC will try to price tech exclusively in AUR
- yay for chucking the damsel out the airlook but keeping her fancy shoes |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:19:00 -
[281] - Quote
Pahah Pahineh wrote:Quote:We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions. ah jeez, here we go again. What's the matter Hilmar forgot what humble pie tastes like?
Look back through this 14 page thread : 95% of posters are in favor of clothing, 5% are crybabies who cry about everything. Where do you fit?
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:26:00 -
[282] - Quote
I am pleased that clothing will be available in loot drops.
I am not in the least bit interested in playing 'Space Barbie' but at least I will be able to sell any clothing I may get in loot drops. You want fries with that? |
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
72
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:38:00 -
[283] - Quote
These new FW shirts look nice indeed however....
There wasn't ever anything in NEX store fro me to purchase, or on the other hand, nothing I bought from custom clothes off market because its all the same, and its all _with some paramilitary look_ or something.
What if I don't want that paramilitary look? What for us who don't want our avatars took like armed forces members? Until today, nothing.
Add more clothing appropriate for industrialists and faction civvie clothing. Add clothing appropriate for pirate factions too (maybe as a reward from their LP store, or I hope pirate FW that will come). |
Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden Freelancer Coalition
22
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Posted - 2012.06.16 12:17:00 -
[284] - Quote
Thanks CCP.....i so liked the Latex outfit was up on Sisi for a short time
http://imageshack.us/f/252/neuesoutfit.jpg/ <----This one
Really hoping it will be available again as well
mfg
Carola Kessler |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
462
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Posted - 2012.06.16 12:28:00 -
[285] - Quote
Ye this is the one I want .. there was one with silver lining other with gold lining, that was awesome looking. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
809
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Posted - 2012.06.16 12:29:00 -
[286] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo
Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is? EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches.
Handing out money to people in exchange of bytes is a tricky thing to do even if we didn't belonged to a species were chaining your fellows to a computer to farm e-money for you is deemed something ordinary. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Dex Tera
New Eden Burns Moist.
23
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Posted - 2012.06.16 12:51:00 -
[287] - Quote
hey give us some cool eye patches with pirate logos and stuff on them plz and a mini skirt and latex lots of latex and some cool cyborgish stuff
plz PLZZZZZ! |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:23:00 -
[288] - Quote
It's hard to get more sandbox choice-y than giving people the option to forgo the clothing and everything and stay in their pods. After all, if this were real, we would also have people who chose that route.
But being out of the pod isn't unheard of at all in the lore, the books even go so far as to portray most capsuleers get out of their pods every few days. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Mal Nina
The Red Circle Inc.
16
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:25:00 -
[289] - Quote
How about corp logos on ships... that might get corps to actually use the micro transaction process.....all members of a corp get the logo on all their ships! I would rather have this than more clothes. Sexy ships, let me change the skin!
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Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
233
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:32:00 -
[290] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live The addition of the FW clothing is definately a step in the right direction, but why is CCP so determined to water down the sandbox rather than adding more to it? Is it really just about money to the point where CCP would rather add magically appearing one off shinies rather than adding additional gameplay elements to EVE via in-game mechanics?
If CCP is so hellbent on adding MT into EVE then at least make the clothing items BPO's and produced through the game mechanics where it shows you at least care about keeping the integrity of the sandbox.
Like the FW ones, give clothing some meaning in EVE, and they should all be destructable.
Tie clothing into the certificate planner as another option, where if you get to the elite level for example in certain professions as a side reward you receive some clothing items only that character can wear. These sorts of things give clothing meaning in the context of the game, oh look that person has a special lab coat they must be an Elite level Research Manager.
One other thing, MT can become a rather slippery slope for you too Unifex when it comes to monthly figures. Be prepared for the "well the numbers for the last few months have been X but now they're Y, what are you going to do about that John?" Like any additional income you start to rely on it in your budgeting and businesses are no different. LOTRO is a classic example of how they have had to monetize more and more of the game to maintain revenues, something I do not wish to see befall EVE.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
28
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:33:00 -
[291] - Quote
These last several posts illustrate the desire for variety. I suppose that is my issue with the Avenue and Function pieces that feel less than extraordinary. The Sisi outfits are a bit extreme, which seems what people enjoy from what I have read in regards to what the new avatars are missing. I personally favor the other super extreme and currently enjoy the Sterling line, and would love to see even more military styled outfits. Maybe something along the line of a WW-II army long field jacket. An more Eastern styled yukata/kimono type piece would be great as well considering 1/3 of the bloodlines are Asian influenced. Naturally these things will be down the line, since there are already a list of things to do (like the loot drops) but I do feel that the direction for the future is to take the styles to the extremes as to not have the NEX clothing be visually mistaken (this is why I like the Minimas over the other two NEX shoes) with the standard issued pieces. For now I am more than happy to see the 200 mentioned in the Blog, even though that number I believe gets hit with the stuff already in the inventory tree not counting anything on the test server,
I also feel that to a small extent the Nex store is a bit of a donation hub for CCP although maybe a bit less so with the more reasonable prices on the horizon, but still a way to help support something you like. When I was younger (before cable tv) my family would support PBS which would send a thank you gift (like a coffee mug) in appreciation for a sum of money. There have more recently been some interesting "pay what you feel like paying" services on the internet, and while not usually the most lucrative approach have proven that some people will throw money towards artists they like. I have always been of this thought and have never torrented a video or bootlegged software although I don't judge those who do. When I recently got into EVE I likewise decided to buy a year's subscription (along with 6 PLEX) even though people told me that there is a good chance I can make 500m ISK a month before then. I feel there is nothing wrong with not taking this approach, and occasionally I wonder if there is something wrong with my brain, but I believe it is as simple as supporting something you love.
With 200 items (split between genders, FW, and eventual loot drops) at 100-500 AUR there is a good chance I might buy everything new in the NEX store. Are there any deals beyond the 2500 AUR bracket? |
Raven Solaris
Deadspace Synergy
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:36:00 -
[292] - Quote
Edgar Strangelove wrote:I hope a lab coat is hidden in the works somewhere. I can't do science properly without a lab coat.
I concur wholeheartedly. |
Myrkala
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
10
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:13:00 -
[293] - Quote
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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
63
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:19:00 -
[294] - Quote
You know, it's sad when I actually agree with some of the trolls.
Attention Players:
Eve changes all the ******* time. CCP is too broke to fix everything. NeX brings them a little extra dough to hire more programmers to fix the **** you care about.
It's really simple, so why the **** do so many players have a hard time grasping the ******* obvious?
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
189
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:20:00 -
[295] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this.
I am 110% (+/- ~10%) behind releasing hundreds of already finished items. It just makes sense, particularly with this sane new pricing structure and more interesting distribution model. Many thumbs raised.
But, do be cautious of evaluating interest based on the current environment. Until we get a multi player WiS environment then people will not be as interested in customisation options when the only characters they will see much of are their own.
Having said that, I will be using some of that accrued aurum sat on my account shortly. I even took the aurum option back in the xmas gift promotion expecting this stuff to be coming out. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
90
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:34:00 -
[296] - Quote
Ugleb wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this. I am 110% (+/- ~10%) behind releasing hundreds of already finished items. It just makes sense, particularly with this sane new pricing structure and more interesting distribution model. Many thumbs raised. But, do be cautious of evaluating interest based on the current environment. Until we get a multi player WiS environment then people will not be as interested in customisation options when the only characters they will see much of are their own. Having said that, I will be using some of that accrued aurum sat on my account shortly. I even took the aurum option back in the xmas gift promotion expecting this stuff to be coming out.
THANK YOU!
This is what people need to look at this like,
1. None of this costs ANY development time to activate in the client, it's already there. 2. The new price plan for NEX items is a 100% better then the old one. 3. No this isn't the end of Eve Online, grow up. 4. No, this does NOT equate with "We buy ships off NEX now" you morons, see above and grow up. 5. Yes, some people do actually want to see more avatar based content, and not all of them are new. Myself included, being over 6 years old in Eve is one of those people. 6. Multiple avenues to clothing, NEX, Loot, LP Rewards, is a brilliant approach. 7. No this isn't Barby in Space, or Second Life Eve Edition, stop being a child and a troll. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Vassal Zeren
Uncontrollable Innovations
10
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:38:00 -
[297] - Quote
We want content! Not clothes, content! |
RAP ACTION HERO
92
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:40:00 -
[298] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo
Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is? EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches.
dur hur hur because ccp is now all gooned up, all rmt should be through plex so goons will get a cut, there will never be player to player rmt hur hur hur |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1299
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:53:00 -
[299] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo
Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is? EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches. Handing out money to people in exchange of bytes is a tricky thing to do even if we didn't belonged to a species were chaining your fellows to a computer to farm e-money for you is deemed something ordinary.
Several other games do it since years, do you think CCP who invented the most realistic economy are unable to put said economy into practice?
Also, it's not CCP "handing" money, it's players who lose at markets vs those who win. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1299
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Posted - 2012.06.16 14:56:00 -
[300] - Quote
Azahni Vah'nos wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live The addition of the FW clothing is definately a step in the right direction, but why is CCP so determined to water down the sandbox rather than adding more to it? Is it really just about money to the point where CCP would rather add magically appearing one off shinies rather than adding additional gameplay elements to EVE via in-game mechanics? If CCP is so hellbent on adding MT into EVE then at least make the clothing items BPO's and produced through the game mechanics where it shows you at least care about keeping the integrity of the sandbox. Like the FW ones, give clothing some meaning in EVE, and they should all be destructable.
It's easy. Make a BPO that requires PI materials + Aurum to produce stuff.
Microtransactions and EvE style in a nutshell. And you solve both the issue of many PI materials having no use and implementing an EvE mechanic with MTs.
Of course it'd be cool to also be able to deconstruct those dressings and retrieve the PI and aurum out of them and even to re-convert said Aurum into RL cash again. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Flamehaired Death
The Order Of Viision
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:01:00 -
[301] - Quote
Still need better way for OTHER people TO SEE what you are wearing before your sales will take off.
Current portrait does not show much of clothing.
How about character info options to see full body views? Or attach full body views to EVEmail?
ROFLMAO - attach full body poses to Killmail !!!
You need to include a few foreground props for maximum effects. Like cracked helmet or shattered console for victor to rest a foot upon.
Heh I guess you could sell trophy items to pose with in LP store and then let people place the trophies in Captain's quarters.
Hmmm...how about ways to snap poses in your Captains' Quarters? |
RAP ACTION HERO
92
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:21:00 -
[302] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo
Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is? EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches. Handing out money to people in exchange of bytes is a tricky thing to do even if we didn't belonged to a species were chaining your fellows to a computer to farm e-money for you is deemed something ordinary. Several other games do it since years, do you think CCP who invented the most realistic economy are unable to put said economy into practice? Also, it's not CCP "handing" money, it's players who lose at markets vs those who win. those other games have player designed stuff, ccp hopefully will never allow player designed stuff
also wasn't there some theory can't remember exactly that rmt income should never exceed the minimum wage of rl jobs, and that minimum wage is even lower in certain countries like china because if they can make more money with computer games bad things happen to those games.
also i heard diablo 3 RMAH is doing wonderful things to the game. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2082
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:30:00 -
[303] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:Ribikoka wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:Ribikoka wrote:I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. Oh yes. That's why the cloths coming in august and few frigs will come with winter patch. My mistake, cloths coming in june not in august.
Not your only mistake. Rebalanced ships start being released in August.
That would be when the re-balancing work on the first batch (of what will likely be 3 releases) is completed, just like the clothing... which is already completed....
Do you begin to notice a pattern yet? When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Lost True
Paradise project
31
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:33:00 -
[304] - Quote
Vassal Zeren wrote:We want content! Not clothes, content! Sure. But there is very poor variety of clothes at the moment, so it's a content that should be improved.
This char doesn't have any of the NeX items because i didn't find anything that suits her better :) Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2082
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:41:00 -
[305] - Quote
Pahah Pahineh wrote:Quote:We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions. ah jeez, here we go again. What's the matter Hilmar forgot what humble pie tastes like?
The irony inherent in this post is astounding. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Gorongo Frostfyr
Shimohi Heavy Industries
85
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:53:00 -
[306] - Quote
i just want to say it again:
15$ = 15Gé¼?
**** you. |
Illest Insurrectionist
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:04:00 -
[307] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:
A: make them destructable
This please. Now. |
Dex Tera
New Eden Burns Moist.
24
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:08:00 -
[308] - Quote
i think the problem with the choise in clothes atm is that its to normal dress shirts and dres slacks are fine but what happend to all the cool combat suits we used to have via caldari and such i hope when you plan to open the door you will have more viraity in clothes and stuf that ads flair such as a corp/aliance armband with logs on them a top hat! hats in general wold be nice some said lab coats but cool ones from the future and in black for the mad t3 scientist some cool dust like suits if i had one of those now i could wis now as i would not be concerned about the fact that the atmosphere is not sutibel for my consumption! some cyborgish stuff via implants gloves cause i have ocd and every thing in station is nasty dirty! how bout canes??? accessories are always cool amirite? |
Dex Tera
New Eden Burns Moist.
24
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:11:00 -
[309] - Quote
Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:i just want to say it again:
15$ = 15Gé¼?
**** you. yes i agree **** you inded
noting should cost more the 5 bucks and thats pushing it ccp is being plain greedy i say we all go to jita and shoot that statue AGAIN
OCCUPY JITA!!!!!! again!
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dischordia
Specter Syndicate Persona Non Gratis
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:17:00 -
[310] - Quote
Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:i just want to say it again:
15$ = 15Gé¼?
**** you.
I can not for the life of me fathom why the USD and EUR price is the same too, OK the GBP is down a bit but still at today's rates $14.99 = Gé¼11.86 / -ú9.54. Is there that much profit needed to be made??? What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem. - CCP Grayscale -á- CCP troll BEST troll <3 |
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Lost True
Paradise project
31
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:20:00 -
[311] - Quote
Damion Rayne wrote:Ugleb wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Htrag wrote:I'd be curious to know if there's actually a market for this stuff.
Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. I'm curious too. This is a really easy way for us to see just what the market really is for this. I am 110% (+/- ~10%) behind releasing hundreds of already finished items. It just makes sense, particularly with this sane new pricing structure and more interesting distribution model. Many thumbs raised. But, do be cautious of evaluating interest based on the current environment. Until we get a multi player WiS environment then people will not be as interested in customisation options when the only characters they will see much of are their own. Having said that, I will be using some of that accrued aurum sat on my account shortly. I even took the aurum option back in the xmas gift promotion expecting this stuff to be coming out. THANK YOU! This is what people need to look at this like, 1. None of this costs ANY development time to activate in the client, it's already there. 2. The new price plan for NEX items is a 100% better then the old one. 3. No this isn't the end of Eve Online, grow up. 4. No, this does NOT equate with "We buy ships off NEX now" you morons, see above and grow up. 5. Yes, some people do actually want to see more avatar based content, and not all of them are new. Myself included, being over 6 years old in Eve is one of those people. 6. Multiple avenues to clothing, NEX, Loot, LP Rewards, is a brilliant approach. 7. No this isn't Barby in Space, or Second Life Eve Edition, stop being a child and a troll. This. And i'm another old player, 6+ years. (this is a 5.5 old alt, because i don't want to bring my alliance to this forums, only myself) Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Lost True
Paradise project
31
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:26:00 -
[312] - Quote
Dex Tera wrote:i think the problem with the choise in clothes atm is that its to normal dress shirts and dres slacks are fine but what happend to all the cool combat suits we used to have via caldari and such i hope when you plan to open the door you will have more viraity in clothes and stuf that ads flair such as a corp/aliance armband with logs on them a top hat! hats in general wold be nice some said lab coats but cool ones from the future and in black for the mad t3 scientist some cool dust like suits if i had one of those now i could wis now as i would not be concerned about the fact that the atmosphere is not sutibel for my consumption! some cyborgish stuff via implants gloves cause i have ocd and every thing in station is nasty dirty! how bout canes??? accessories are always cool amirite? Hats, gloves... Yes, i don't understand why there isn't any... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
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Flamehaired Death
The Order Of Viision
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:45:00 -
[313] - Quote
In real life clothes are all about the opportunity to be SEEN. For now that is going to be limited to snapshots and maybe video clips on utube.
So right now capsuleers urgently need a place to take more interesting pictures featuring all those clothes. And EVE really needs to add trophies, medals and plaques to stuff that can be seen in pictures.
(1) I suggest CCP start developing a trophy room to attach to the Captain's Quarters. Because displaying all the famous corpses and other trophies that capsules should be able to take can take a lot more room than CQ now has. Besides a separate room isolates most of the issues with new features to an area away from existing stuff that works in CQ. Maybe you buy the room for aurum. (i.e. maybe the option to have a few trophies in current CQ without buying extra room gets added later after debugging mounting issues in trophy room).
(2) I suggest easy to implement upgrades to ways to optionally display photos in game: EVEmail attachments, personalized killmail photos, and "facebook" links in character info to toon entries. Toon "facebook" entries could include links to out of game sources like utube for video clips. In game facebook style entries could be pretty crude but maybe have a option to export photos and additionally link to real facebook page for those who want to go crazy. Optional selection means minimal impact on those with low end hardware and low impact if the initial code has bugs.
(3) I suggest that CCP eventually add a group photo room as a precursor to any real station walking. Basically an upgraded trophy room photo area where corp members can gather for posing with corp trophies. Or maybe alliance leaders or fleet members. It will be a go place to work out bugs in gathering multiple avatars and maybe trophy items from multiple sources. I think time spent here will be a lot more popular with players who mostly want to fly ships than general station walking. Think military organizations and business related memo photos.
Group photo rooms might be part of corp HQ offices or other rental offices or they might be optional upgrades. But facilities for fleets and groups from multiple corps might well be something that is only rented for aurum or LP from station owners. In fact you might even want to structure things so that smaller corps find one time annual rental as a barely affordable way of looking like the big shot corps.
And what does happen to all those trophies that could only be carried in a time consuming manner (so much load per person or rental cart) when the rental time runs out? ;) |
Flamehaired Death
The Order Of Viision
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:59:00 -
[314] - Quote
Tequila Breeze wrote:any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ?
LOL -- I like that idea.
CCP could have a group petition area and place to make a donation to a group collection of funds for that cause.
CCP could even optionally respond with a level of aurum or ISK where the idea would get a bump for consideration (study the effort needed), moved on to do list or to be implemented in top 10 optional features for next release.
If a petition had a strict time limit, say two months, it would probably be possible to return donations if the effort failed.
I can just see 70% of EVE slaving away and united in gathering 500 trillion in funds within two months to get some feature turned on. ROFLMAO
Of course the CCP dream is probably players donating 1 billion aurum to have an out of cycle fix made. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
30
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Posted - 2012.06.16 18:29:00 -
[315] - Quote
While we are talking issues of vanity, can I suggest some non-hideous sunglasses?
I won't wear them but seeing less people commit a fashion faux pas [in my eyes at least] would do the eve universe a whole lot of good. |
Electra Magnetic
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 18:36:00 -
[316] - Quote
For something that doesnt take any development time to enable, 2 months is a long time.
What's the deal CCP, Cant get anything done without training a couple months first? |
KuroVolt
Deadspace Synergy
1
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Posted - 2012.06.16 18:42:00 -
[317] - Quote
This may not be about clothes persay, but Ive been hoping youd add more hairstyles over time.
Ive been hoping for a ponytail for males in particular.
Please CCP, give me my ponytail! ;-; |
yashik
The Great Awakening of Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:14:00 -
[318] - Quote
cool new shirts
:)
love it <3
thank you :))) |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
318
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:30:00 -
[319] - Quote
I will certainly buy something.
Deal with it!
....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced. |
Aelder
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:51:00 -
[320] - Quote
As someone who is generally not too interested in clothing in EVE (just to state where I'm coming from), I would literally give CCP all my money for a bicorne hat*.
Please CCP, if you ever add hats and you do not include a bicorne naval hat, I will be horribly horribly disappointed. Imagine a short little Space Napoleon avatar.
*May not actually give CCP all my money. |
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Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
158
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:52:00 -
[321] - Quote
Vassal Zeren wrote:We want content! Not clothes, content!
Need you to express you self in more detail content = stuff and clothes is stuff.
I want Mechanics, and interaction ability to socialize with other players and to interact with a the environment beyond being a Camelion. I want the be able to open a Bar sell goods. mush like what was proposed for Establishments. I would like explorer missions out of pod as suggested as an option from Last Fan feast.
Unfortunately the Snafu with Incarna last year has made more than a hand full of people paranoid that CCP will slip back into Pre Crucible development. So they have to tread lightly and build the trust and gauge how much acceptance as ambulation and the Next store.
Wishes Immediate Future:
Break the exclusive connection of Nex and WIS
I would like to see CCP attempt to break the tight bond of WIS to the Nex store by adding some FIS vanity items. Like the customizing of the Ship's skins, in space monuments that can be installed into non sovereignty space, have an aurum up keep to remain anchored, but can still be damage(new profession Vandal) and repaired.(new profession Caretaker) This will help separate the two demographics of who oppose the Nex Store and who oppose Barbie Dress up.
Allow Avatar Visits to other CQ
I would like to see the ability to Port to another's CQ this should separate the Groups who want to role play with others from those who want to play Barbie dress their avatar (alone in the dark).. On the negative this may weaken the push for WIS, as some people are satisfied with finally being able to socially interact with another. On the other hand it may just give them a highly addicted taste and make them scream for more. The comment of simply appearing in another quarters breaks the 4th wall, (the seamless engagement of the world), I would say it is invalid. We do not have a docking and undocking animations which is similar in concept. I think, we the community make the jump of belief, that there is something beyond that door, especially when concept art becomes available. I would love to see our 1 Small hard working Dev group on WIS do a raid on the Atlanta office and steal the animation work the Atlanta office have been working on to give us social commands for CQ. I also understand there is also work being done on the bottle neck the limit of how many people can be in the same room over powering the Graphics CPU and that we are currently limited to only 3-5 people per room. (My source is just rumour) As a first step I am sure the GÇ£WIS proGÇ¥ group would understand this limitation and provide positive support for allowing us to interact with the content already provided.
Allow us Players to donate assets to the WIS project or Vanity items to the FIS project.
I understand that art department wants to control the esthetic themes with in eve especially when coming to the major races with pirate faction being a blend of the 4 main player races. So when you step in eve, anywhere, you know you are in New Eden. I know there are some serious graphical designers apart of the eve community that would love the opportunity to donate some graphical assets to be included into the eve universe and would be willing to follow some graphical design requirements. The goal here is not to introduce new art work into the game but build player ownership with in the game. Players grouping together to make a unique event like Burn Jita, the will remain in the minds of many for year, we have limited Dev run small events (taking up non self sustaining dev time) or small player grouping like mining or larger events like Battles over a resource. There is little for the soloer that can look at a small group of pixiles on his screens saying I did that, The T3 Battle Cruiser Design Contest was a sample of this. ...Actually Decorating ones own CQ full fills similar desires for us not artistic people
Avoid Side Grade Enhancements NEX till much later:
In Dust 514 there is a heavy talk about Side grade enhancements to specialize the way we play, I would love for CCP first Exhaust Cosmetic options like; -->Clothing, --> Emotes, --> Player Build Monuments that can be damage, yet not destroyed if a Maintenance Cost is paid, (this will allow active players remove items that inactive accounts who have no longer any vested interest into the game to have their foot print removed) -->Ship Skins, -->Ship Hulls Changes that don't effect game play. --> Pets -->Advertizements on those next to the gates screens --> Make BPC for some items and have some of the components still need to be collected resources.
Or allow limited automated Services like: --> Automaton able to give out goods if a certain type of good is received, like a re-occurring repetitive contract. --> Batch Processing GÇô String an assembly line of stuff together to build something so this special BPC can at one click of a button build several T2 Guardian from just Minerals, NPC Components, and Blue Prints I dump into a special container in my station Hanger.
Cont... The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
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Or Side and Down Grades GÇô Not nearly as effective as effective a certain task which be done now but allow something to be done out side the normal way of doing it.To Me the MT side grade is I will pay to win from a different angle. --> BPC for Logistic Missiles, Would be equal to un-modifeid drone reps or 1/2 of slot based reps modules but also have to get though an objects damage resistance as well. --> BPC for A limited Strip Miner for Non Ore Ships GÇô Miner II or Miner I but the cycle time is 3mins but per hours brings the same as a Mining laxer of the same tech, (lost cycles possibly but less drag and drops. --> BPC for Mods that turn your Hulk from a Strip Miner boat into a Mining drone boat. You would mine the same with all mods but now you need to contend with lose of production because of the travel time associated with drones.
Long Term Future I do hope that some day CCP will give us Automatons that will not only allow us to sell goods like at a bar but can accept unique markers like book marks of a particular set of c-ordinates or players altered object with an code number , or corps that has, last ship flown, Solar system where corps was created. racial, corp, and Alliance, identifiers on it so we can create mission for fellow alliance mates. Ie. Go to VFK-IV to the Station (book mark it) and Collect 10 bodies belonging to Goons and you will receive a special Alliance logo of accomplishment to place on your ship. (Dead BEE logos) This would give players with the desire to build missions and achieve larger goals in mind. Most of all allow Player ownership with in eve. (I built that) Something similar to the Goons kill 10 hulks program. I personally think this is one of the big benefits of Mind craft.
Phew Just had to let that out.
So currently CCP has to tread carefully in the current world of eve were there is a vast variety of Speculators, Trolls, and Tinfoil hats either wanting or worrying about:
- CCP making another Jesus Feature
- EVE becoming Pay to win
- Stepping away from the Core of the Game FIS
- Discontinuing re-iteration of abandoned unfinished features
Sadly Incarna embodied all these concerns, Thank fully the new direction CCP is heading is leaving these behind. Sadly WIS exclusive tie to the Nex still has to carry this stigma on its shoulders.
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:those other games have player designed stuff, ccp hopefully will never allow player designed stuff
That would be Second Life, that's just one of the ways. Others entirely design their stuff or subscontract it to specialized firms.
RAP ACTION HERO wrote: also wasn't there some theory can't remember exactly that rmt income should never exceed the minimum wage of rl jobs, and that minimum wage is even lower in certain countries like china
EvE got miners, those games get their own "bottom of the ladder" players. They will always end at the bottom. Does not mean the others can't do better.
RAP ACTION HERO wrote: also i heard diablo 3 RMAH is doing wonderful things to the game.
No idea, I played Diablo 1 for few hours, finished it in 1 try, never launched a next version again. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
177
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Flamehaired Death wrote:In real life clothes are all about the opportunity to be SEEN. For now that is going to be limited to snapshots and maybe video clips on utube.
So right now capsuleers urgently need a place to take more interesting pictures featuring all those clothes. And EVE really needs to add trophies, medals and plaques to stuff that can be seen in pictures.
(1) I suggest CCP start developing a trophy room to attach to the Captain's Quarters. Because displaying all the famous corpses and other trophies that capsules should be able to take can take a lot more room than CQ now has. Besides a separate room isolates most of the issues with new features to an area away from existing stuff that works in CQ. Maybe you buy the room for aurum. (i.e. maybe the option to have a few trophies in current CQ without buying extra room gets added later after debugging mounting issues in trophy room).
(2) I suggest easy to implement upgrades to ways to optionally display photos in game: EVEmail attachments, personalized killmail photos, and "facebook" links in character info to toon entries. Toon "facebook" entries could include links to out of game sources like utube for video clips. In game facebook style entries could be pretty crude but maybe have a option to export photos and additionally link to real facebook page for those who want to go crazy. Optional selection means minimal impact on those with low end hardware and low impact if the initial code has bugs.
(3) I suggest that CCP eventually add a group photo room as a precursor to any real station walking. Basically an upgraded trophy room photo area where corp members can gather for posing with corp trophies. Or maybe alliance leaders or fleet members. It will be a go place to work out bugs in gathering multiple avatars and maybe trophy items from multiple sources. I think time spent here will be a lot more popular with players who mostly want to fly ships than general station walking. Think military organizations and business related memo photos.
Group photo rooms might be part of corp HQ offices or other rental offices or they might be optional upgrades. But facilities for fleets and groups from multiple corps might well be something that is only rented for aurum or LP from station owners. In fact you might even want to structure things so that smaller corps find one time annual rental as a barely affordable way of looking like the big shot corps.
And what does happen to all those trophies that could only be carried in a time consuming manner (so much load per person or rental cart) when the rental time runs out? ;) You almost induced a post about the social norming function of clothing and Mazlow's hierarchy of needs, but I was distracted by a shiny. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: No idea, I played Diablo 1 for few hours, finished it in 1 try, never launched a next version again.
I'd submit that you finished the story, but not the game. You finish the game when you play as all the character types and through all the difficulty levels. Very few people "finished" Diablo.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:i just want to say it again:
15$ = 15Gé¼?
**** you.
Standard answer: eeevil EU has got VAT!
That means that EUR transactions cost more to manufacturers than USd transactions, and they may actually lose money if EUR is below 1.2 parity. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers Ignore This.
65
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Posted - 2012.06.16 20:32:00 -
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Just incase anyone is reading - The walking in stations tech has the ability to be an awesome exploration focused part of eve.. just saying.
Also seems sensible this new clothing option. Even most hardcore eve fans will like a new shirt. Far from the monacle debacle and I am pleased for this. Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
676
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Posted - 2012.06.16 20:55:00 -
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CCP wrote:unique items specific to each militia and will be available for a combination of LPs and ISK.
Very good idea, thats something that needs to be build on further
CCP wrote: unique clothing items as additions into loot drops
Another valuable addition
CCP wrote:Secondly, we are going to be adding a number of items to the Nex store but at somewhat lower Aurum prices than we have in the past
Two out of three isn't bad I suppose, but still, don't cling to the Aurum to much, it is not a good game mechanic, at least you made it cheaper.
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Esceem
Suns of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:11:00 -
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Anvil44 wrote: [...] Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' [...]
THIS. |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
72
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:40:00 -
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Releasing More Clothing - About time.
Clothing in LP Store - If this is going to happen, then is it possible to charge AUR instead of ISK alongside the LPs? I was really supportive of this side of EVE being supported by an additional source of income so it doesn't detract from the core of EVE. I know they're already made, but AUR for Vanity items right?
Cheaper Nex Store Items - About time?
Buying Aurum Directly - Uhm.... About...time. If this was done from the begging it wouldn't wreck so much havoc on the PLEX prices because of speculators.
Clothing Loot Drops - I feel strongly against this. Maybe at most as rewards for special missions such as COSMOS or Storyline finale. I don't like the barbie world invading my spaceship realm in such a direct and intrusive manner!
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Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
14
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:43:00 -
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My feedback is simple:
More clothing options, fine. Micro transactions, not fine.
Can we be done with the NEX store already?? |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
354
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:47:00 -
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Just read this at the patch notes:
Quote: Multiple new clothing items have been added to the NeX store. These items are from our historical collection and will be priced at new price points of 100, 300 and 500 Aurum. Current clothing lines remain unchanged in price.
That's roughly 1/10th of the current prices.
I wonder to what videogames god did i pray so my hopes became so brightly fulfilled...
...but i will save the candles, incense and sacrificial critters for when I see the appropiate items on TQ. I already walked that road to illusion once and ended up with an awful crash against CCP. What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Dex Tera
New Eden Burns Moist.
26
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:51:00 -
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Tequila Breeze wrote:any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ?
SRSLY shut the **** up its not coming back EVER as in NEVER gdam tards! |
Dex Tera
New Eden Burns Moist.
26
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:54:00 -
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also no one wants to pay for this stuff ever it should be sold for isk olany whats the point of even having aurum i dont get it i can by a plex and turn it in to isk is int that enoughf CCP why the **** are you being so greedy!!!! |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
469
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:55:00 -
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What do people think of the big double pockets? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1300
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Posted - 2012.06.16 22:04:00 -
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I want a proper miniskirt and evening dresses. All that space marine stuff is so 1990. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
329
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Posted - 2012.06.16 23:48:00 -
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More is good. If you ever get Incarna sorted this will become a big thing. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |
Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
52
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Posted - 2012.06.17 00:09:00 -
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Guys, I know it would only take a team of 2-5 developers a week to fix Tech and revert to the previous config/adjust build ratios or introduce alchemy, but we don't think 2 years is long enough for this to remain broken. Instead we'll invest our resources and budget into more **** nobody gives a **** about.
CCP, Prioritising like a pro since Incarna and Inferno are boss. |
Dealth Striker
Striker Ltd
5
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Posted - 2012.06.17 02:59:00 -
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Too funny!
A person working on this clothing feature gets lets say $45 an hour to create, polish, etc. to create a possible revenue item. A QA Tester gets, lets say $15 an hour to find/report/test bugs and bugfixes - not too mention the intel that the tester can provide on the game to the company.
I would rather hire 3 more QA testers at the expense of the clothing aspect.
I say let's get this game working properly before adding content.
Probably going to have to hire the extra QA after the 19th release anyways. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
63
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Posted - 2012.06.17 03:40:00 -
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I'd like some sensible shoes for women.
Heels even on combat boots? Ugh.
BTW: Darth Striker, where do you think that CCP gets the money, other than from our (slowly diminishing) subscriptions, to pay those QAs? From the profits that clothing guy generates. So, yeah, one clothing guy gens probably in the vicinity of $450 profit if CCP subscribes to the same employee pay model the company I work for atm does. That's how many QAs per clothing guy? More than 100?
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Ampoliros
Aperture Harmonics K162
59
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Posted - 2012.06.17 03:40:00 -
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Coming in a bit late, but is this...
Quote:Existing items from before June 19th will remain in the store, for now, at the current prices so that we donGÇÖt devalue the investment that some players have already made.
...an actual concern that other players have? I mean, people buy games on steam every day that may go on 75% off sales some months later, nobody rages and demands the price difference refunded to them. Nobody sane, anyway.
I assume CCP have framework in place to handle sales in the NeX store as well and it's not really sensible to keep the prices set in stone. Why not just cut the prices across the board? Maybe keep the monocles super-expensive, as the price is probably why most people buy them anyway, but most of the mundane stuff could probably be lowered as well.
Not that i care much anyway, but yknow, food for thought. |
Dearthair
Goibhniu Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.06.17 04:07:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Tuesday, Thursday, you should just call them Marsday and Joveday, you heathen.
Nah...Thursday comes from Thor's Day..Joveday would have to be Wednesday, ie Woden's Day, or as he is more commonly known, Odin's Day. Have to match up the pantheon head to pantheon head. Tyr (from, Tuesday, or Tyr's Day), had some warlike aspects IIRC, so he's probably ok for Marsday...but then, most of the male deities in the Norse pantheon had warlike aspects.
NBLID (Not Blue Let It Die), the new motto for miners, manufacturers, and retailers everywhere. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2329
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I'd like to compliment Unifex on his absolutely brilliant sense of timing. Ordinarily I'd have plenty to say about microtransactions and all that but this week I've used up so much :care: talking about the wardec changes this NeX stuff simply doesn't register on the lowest fractional increment of my annoyance-meter.
I'm kinda joking.
But its a good step to move these things into the Loyalty point stores. Its a good step to have them drop from loot.
I still don't like aurum obviously but I guess making it cheap as chips and letting people trade plex for the things is probably okay now the prices aren't ridiculous.
Hopefully in the future we'll have equal proportions of loot/lp store/nex delivered stuff and to be quite honest, that'll probably deal with the worst horrors of the NeX from last year and the problem will be over.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
RAP ACTION HERO
94
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Just read this at the patch notes: Quote: Multiple new clothing items have been added to the NeX store. These items are from our historical collection and will be priced at new price points of 100, 300 and 500 Aurum. Current clothing lines remain unchanged in price.
That's roughly 1/10th of the current prices. I wonder to what videogames god did i pray so my hopes became so brightly fulfilled... ...but i will save the candles, incense and sacrificial critters for when I see the appropiate items on TQ. I already walked that road to illusion once and ended up with an awful crash against CCP.
look new clothes get accounts resubbed, yay! |
pugal
The Executives Executive Outcomes
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 05:34:00 -
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Meh so what. any way we can trade aurum for isk or plex? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3996
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:02:00 -
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Solhild wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future. So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription. Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live Vastly oversimplified and misses the point. edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed? - what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash???? SANDBOX
I dont think we're ready to build skillbooks yet. nor rookieships, or run the insurance companies.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3996
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:03:00 -
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Sister Bliss wrote:Guys, I know it would only take a team of 2-5 developers a week to fix Tech and revert to the previous config/adjust build ratios or introduce alchemy, but we don't think 2 years is long enough for this to remain broken. Instead we'll invest our resources and budget into more **** nobody gives a **** about.
CCP, Prioritising like a pro since Incarna and Inferno are boss.
Winter is comming and you're going to hate it more.
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Riffix
Synergistic Arbitrage
38
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:26:00 -
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I still think it's horse armor until we have more ways to interact with other capsuleers as our avatars... Lead, Follow, or Get the #@$!@ Out of the Way. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:58:00 -
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Vassal Zeren wrote:We want content! Not clothes, content!
I agree with you. This game still not Barbie Online, i think this game still should be internet spaceship game. Where should be the first, content's and not clothes. That's why i wrote earlier, ship balance first and just after then cloths.
And another thing CCP why creating cloths when no there "walking in station" contents ? I dont understand this. Who see the cloths ? Who think that how everyone pose at mirror, when over 90% percent players turned off the CQ view ? |
Nlex
Domini Canium
8
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Posted - 2012.06.17 08:13:00 -
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Clothes are content. Any content you, personally, don't use is still content. You might not care how your avatar looks or what s/he wears, but a lot of subscribers do, not least of them roleplayers. |
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Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
7
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Posted - 2012.06.17 08:28:00 -
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@CCP,
add some Scottish kilts please |
Jayad
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 10:11:00 -
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Ribikoka wrote:I agree with you. This game still not Barbie Online, i think this game still should be internet spaceship game. Where should be the first, content's and not clothes. That's why i wrote earlier, ship balance first and just after then cloths.
Its Eve Online, a sci-fi simulator. Its not spaceships online or barbie online.
A lot of people don't post here. Its usually the demographic (which i belong too) who trade, manufacture, make friends, explore and generally live in the world. I represent casual players who play to feel immersed, where avatar content is very important for us and the health of eve in general.
This forum would have you believe there's a HUGE divide in the community but it just doesn't exist. I remember when this stuff was first mentioned back in 2005 (i think) and their was a collective excitement about the project. This hasn't gone away, CQ and micro transactions just muddied the water ... by lots.
There is huge demand for avatar content
Anyway,
CCP please include a range of business suites for guys, please include options to modify existing designs as well. Also i want my female main Hermia to prance around in dresses and other "feminine" clothing. Its frankly better to look at then my male character :)
Worried about art direction? I think you guys should be more relaxed about this and let the players decide. Remember you can always categorize clothing into 'Formal' or 'Informal' or 'traditional' and let future bar owners decide what dress code is acceptable! People want to be individuals, end of the day. |
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
45
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Posted - 2012.06.17 11:29:00 -
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Finally a small piece of good news in a dev blog after so many appallingly destructive and/or user unfriendly dev blogs. Admittedly we can't do an awful lot with our avatars yet but it is logical to release into the game the many lines of clothing that have been added to the EVE market window but are not available to purchase or find. I like the idea of of pirate eg Angel Cartel etc clothing coming as loot drops as well. Good for disguises or for those who wish to work for pirate corps/do roleplay etc. I like the idea of more factional military clothing as well. More of a draw for Factional Warfare which I think could potentially become much more important once DUST 514 is launched. More 'eye candy' is always welcome especially when it isn't detrimental to gameplay or slow down the mechanics.
I'm excited about seeing the new Minmatar ship designs as well although I'm worried they may be too rounded or become too colourful. I like the new colours for Gallente ships but those colurs suit their ships. We are Minmatar and should stay Minmatar
I am still extremely concerned & angry about the plans to dumb down the skill requisites for mining ships and reducing the mighty Hulk to a shadow of its former self so take the compliments above while they are going. |
Lamthara Lachesis
Emporio Amarr
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:09:00 -
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I see no problems to have more choices. Honestly the more we have, better it is. Right now we only have a few looks: military, preachers, bikers and something i can't even describe...
Having the ability to customize the look of our avatars and make it really different from another one of the same race would be good.
Honestly i support the idea of the clothes-bpc. I'd be quite nice to destroy a battleship and find a scheme that allows me to tailor my own dress... or farm them to make it a "respectable" profession.
Are you planning to put some more haircuts too?
//Lam
p.s. just an idea but even if it's cool to buy the dress after seeing it in a small windows and then try it for rea (/sarcasm) are you maybe planning to change the way the avatar customization works so we can try "ALL" the dress we want before, there and if we like the way we look we can buy the clothes directly from there - if we have enough AUR indeed? |
Darkhawk
Magnetar Dynamics Stop Exploding You Cowards
1
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:11:00 -
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I'm looking forward to the changes, the current pricing points are way too high, that's why very few people have ever purchased clothing from there, now that there will be loot drops, LP store purchases and overall cheaper prices in the NEX store, I think there will be much more interest in using it.
Thanks for listening CCP! DarkHawk | Win7 64bit | nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti | Corsair 1600MHz Tri-Chan 12GB DDR3 Intel i7 920 (Bloomfield) 2.67GHz QCore | Gigabyte EX58-UD5 | Creative SB 5.1 X-Fi | Cable 100Mb/s |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:45:00 -
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When it comes to clothing, I would like a different approach - I would want to appear more machine than man.
Taking a page from Shadowrun, instead of sunglasses, I would have flare compensators in my electronic eyes. Since I have the common stock of implants in my head, various blinking lights would be somewhat noticable by those staring. Bone lacing and dermal plating, along with a touch of muscle replacement, would give me a super human - Terminator robot combination appearance. If CCP expands to allow hand-to-hand combat within the station, then razor claws and wired reflexes should be optional.
Side note: I would already be in negative essence to their (old) rules, but I'm rolling here.
At one point, my character sheet had me as a "Soldier"; so while the uniforms are good, I want the accessories too. My old avatar had the bandolier across the chest and what appeared to be a wrench tied to my back. So numerous ammo clips, grenades, a small collection of guns and knives strapped across my body, and a slung weapon would be great! The Punisher in his prime!
Oh, and a bandanna too.
But I am a realist and know such ideas would be quite time consuming to design and code for a full avatar motion. Especially since I would want the various items to have their own subtle motions, instead of everything appearing to be "stuck" to me.
Or a nice Hunter Rose tuxedo with a red rose would be ideal too! |
Christmas OnFIre
Northern Star Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:46:00 -
[357] - Quote
Personally i am very much against micro-transactions in a subscription based game as it does feel like we are being double charged, so i am against the whole idea of Aurum and micro-transactions. Although I think a greater customisation/personalisation to our avatars is a great idea and should be continued.
Okay so i'm a bit demanding, so sue me... (please dont).
I realise it would be very difficult financially for CCP to do both atm so.....
If CCP cant afford to remove Aurum and simply give players this content ( or be able to buy it straight off through isk/LP etc without any involvement of MC) on a continual basis, one idea may be to hold off on creating any more clothing until Dust and/or WoD have been released and are bringing in some revenue. (just an idea)
Anyway...
That said, i've loved a lot of the new updates and will def keep playing if things continue this way. The idea of buying unique clothing from FW using isk/LP is inspired, maybe you could expand on this and make it possible for the bigger player corps/alliances to put their logos on their clothing as well. |
Astrid Stjerna
Underking Family
671
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Posted - 2012.06.17 13:05:00 -
[358] - Quote
Electra Magnetic wrote:For something that doesnt take any development time to enable, 2 months is a long time.
What's the deal CCP, Cant get anything done without training a couple months first?
No, they've just got a list of things they need to get done, and the clothes are at the end of that list. I can't wait for the new clohes, personally, but it's not a huge, huge vitally-important thing that CCP has to preempt more important work to launch.
Patience, grasshopper -- you'll get to the treasure soon enough. I can't get rid of my darn signature!-á Oh, wait.... |
Rana Ash
Gradient Electus Matari
35
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Posted - 2012.06.17 16:22:00 -
[359] - Quote
Yeah shirts and stuff, but what about the eye patches?. |
Altair Raja
Colonial Marines EVE Division Villore Accords
5
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:55:00 -
[360] - Quote
Htrag wrote:Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. Er, i have 5500 and don't ever plan on using it since i don't use the CQ
AFK cloaking doesn't earn anything, so it needs a buff! |
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Dr Ted Kaper
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
2
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:12:00 -
[361] - Quote
Get rid of AUR! Just make clothing a standard market item. |
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
21
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Posted - 2012.06.17 20:36:00 -
[362] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Cearain wrote:Currently we can't tell an allied militia other than by checking in the corp etc.
It would be nice if these militia uniforms:
1) were offered for free to people who obtain top rank in faction war
2) could only be worn by people in the militia.
That way we could have a way to tell if somone is in an allied militia or not.
edit: -also neutrals would be able to tell if someone is in a militia too if they learn the uniforms. Good ideas here. Will pass them on to the stars working on FW.
I'm going to make a shameless plug here for another thread showing support from both inside and outside of the FW community for uniforms/rank insignia/etc exclusive to FW pilots. (see signature)
Also I'm all for berets and top hats! Maybe FW berets with insignia on them? Yes! I love it! Support FW uniforms here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=112233 |
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
147
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:08:00 -
[363] - Quote
yay more clothes :)
loves on CCP |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
133
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:26:00 -
[364] - Quote
Christmas OnFIre wrote:Personally i am very much against micro-transactions in a subscription based game as it does feel like we are being double charged, so i am against the whole idea of Aurum and micro-transactions. Although I think a greater customisation/personalisation to our avatars is a great idea and should be continued.
Okay so i'm a bit demanding, so sue me... (please dont).
I realise it would be very difficult financially for CCP to do both atm so.....
If CCP cant afford to remove Aurum and simply give players this content ( or be able to buy it straight off through isk/LP etc without any involvement of MC) on a continual basis, one idea may be to hold off on creating any more clothing until Dust and/or WoD have been released and are bringing in some revenue. (just an idea)
Anyway...
That said, i've loved a lot of the new updates and will def keep playing if things continue this way. The idea of buying unique clothing from FW using isk/LP is inspired, maybe you could expand on this and make it possible for the bigger player corps/alliances to put their logos on their clothing as well.
See now, this guy makes sense. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Jens Beckstrom
Free Space Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:34:00 -
[365] - Quote
Stupid stupid stupid.......
Avatar clothes should be derived from the monthly subscription like everyting else ingame. The focus on Aurum just leads down the road of few and expencive items most of us would not touch with the ugly stick for the fear that it will spread to other freatures....
And promises are made to be broken, sadly.
Quote:
Christmas OnFIre wrote: Personally i am very much against micro-transactions in a subscription based game as it does feel like we are being double charged, so i am against the whole idea of Aurum and micro-transactions. Although I think a greater customisation/personalisation to our avatars is a great idea and should be continued.
Okay so i'm a bit demanding, so sue me... (please dont).
I realise it would be very difficult financially for CCP to do both atm so.....
If CCP cant afford to remove Aurum and simply give players this content ( or be able to buy it straight off through isk/LP etc without any involvement of MC) on a continual basis, one idea may be to hold off on creating any more clothing until Dust and/or WoD have been released and are bringing in some revenue. (just an idea)
Anyway...
That said, i've loved a lot of the new updates and will def keep playing if things continue this way. The idea of buying unique clothing from FW using isk/LP is inspired, maybe you could expand on this and make it possible for the bigger player corps/alliances to put their logos on their clothing as well.
See now, this guy makes sense.
Wonderfull to see im not alone in pointing out stupid for being stupid |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
95
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:47:00 -
[366] - Quote
Good gods all you people do is whine....you're all a bunch of children, trolls, and down right morons.
How the hell you people can equate this to buying ships for AUR is beyond me, you doomsayers really need to get a grip. Yes, this is business, but CCP are committed to keeping Eve the sandbox it is. How avatar gameplay waters down the sandbox is beyond me, or did you blind morons not notice the whole "we scrapped the old system and we're sorry we had the audacity to call it an expansion" thing? Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Jens Beckstrom
Free Space Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:48:00 -
[367] - Quote
Altair Raja wrote:Htrag wrote:Personally I still have that free 2000 aurom on each of my accounts, and just blocked it out like it doesn't even exist. Er, i have 5500 and don't ever plan on using it since i don't use the CQ
Second that, have 5500 on several accounts and il never touch the filth
CQ also turned out to be the worst delivery of a wanted feature i have ever seen on any game, i remember it being presented on Fanfest 2006 as a thing they where playing at, then again two years later we got to trie it out, walking around in a station and oogling a sexy stripper in a bar (higly enjoyable). Then last year u managed to release a bugriddled rusty shack and call it a major release (and the filth of aurum), no wonder people went balistic.
For the love of EVE just toss out Aurum
Keep it for dust514 and dust514 alone if u must for revenue, but keep it out of a well working suscription system. |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
264
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Posted - 2012.06.17 22:46:00 -
[368] - Quote
Barbie Online forever! UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
135
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Posted - 2012.06.17 23:08:00 -
[369] - Quote
Jens Beckstrom wrote:Keep it for dust514 and dust514 alone if u must for revenue, but keep it out of a well working suscription system.
Yep. I'm sure the Dust Bunnies will eat that **** up, like typical console gamers. Milk that cash cow, but don't expect us to fall for the same trap. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
95
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Posted - 2012.06.17 23:10:00 -
[370] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Jens Beckstrom wrote:Keep it for dust514 and dust514 alone if u must for revenue, but keep it out of a well working suscription system. Yep. I'm sure the Dust Bunnies will eat that **** up, like typical console gamers. Milk that cash cow, but don't expect us to fall for the same trap.
It's not a trap, good god you people are deaf, dumb and blind. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
264
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Posted - 2012.06.17 23:35:00 -
[371] - Quote
Next it will be ship paint, then god knows what else. Pretty soon we'll have to pay several times over, just to play the full version of the game we already pay to play.
**** MT.
Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
136
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:08:00 -
[372] - Quote
Damion Rayne wrote:It's not a trap, good god you people are deaf, dumb and blind.
Mhm. And Farmville isn't one of the worst games ever created. DLC isn't just a way to charge for things that should have been in the game from the start. Buying a fancy digital hat isn't a total waste of money. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Nyx Na'gorg
Khazarian Resergence Silver Dragonz
35
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:40:00 -
[373] - Quote
I don't know much about the militia stuff but what are the militia uniforms from left to right. I will definitely sign up for the white uniform to go with my lockstep boots and blue/blacktrim pants
Also.. I wouldn't mind if you guys added a second "tool" to those uniforms or if you just let men get the bodices and women have the full shirt as well. That white uniform with the bodice is pretty hot
Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar, Gallente? |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
130
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Posted - 2012.06.18 03:51:00 -
[374] - Quote
The first time people felt the NEX it hurted.... This one hurts less and it fells good.... The next time will be only good...
lol
Anyone disagree?
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Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
159
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Posted - 2012.06.18 04:17:00 -
[375] - Quote
Alx Warlord wrote:The first time people felt the NEX it hurted.... This one hurts less and it fells good.... The next time will be only good...
lol
Anyone disagree?
It is the process of learning to used the knife surgically to accomplish medicine.
soon ccp will be able to use the Nex store to become a benefit to players than a hinderance.
crud my spelling sucks so much!!! The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Blastil
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.06.18 04:21:00 -
[376] - Quote
Maybe I've gotten the feel for the community wrong on this, but I think no one in EVE minds iteration on WiS or Incarna content now that it is here. As long as this takes a back seat to say, re-balancing pvp, or improving the industrial experience. However, that being said, I think WiS isn't a terrible idea. nor is iterating on character customization a bad idea either. In fact, now that it is here, I'd hope to see that every expansion releases some small new content for it, just like I hope each expansion releases something new for pvp, pve, industrial, and professions.
Now here is the real question: when are we going to see immortal starship captains face off against immortal vampires in mortal combat moderated by dust bunnies? I vote for this |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
809
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Posted - 2012.06.18 06:41:00 -
[377] - Quote
Miss Whippy wrote:Next it will be ship paint, then god knows what else. Pretty soon we'll have to pay several times over, just to play the full version of the game we already pay to play.
**** MT.
Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's.
With the new price scheme, it's 5 USD/EUR for the most expensive of the new items. Even less if you buy a GTC and nothing if you acquire a PLEX ingame.
That's where industry's pricing for "Micro transactions" stands. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Lamthara Lachesis
Emporio Amarr
4
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Posted - 2012.06.18 07:09:00 -
[378] - Quote
Rana Ash wrote:Yeah shirts and stuff, but what about the eye patches?.
...and a parrot on the shoulder ? |
vagy
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.06.18 07:39:00 -
[379] - Quote
My head sticks out of the center of the goggles so i have to be very carefull to hide it in the pic but thats a minor issue. And you people want hats? LOL
Anyways still waiting for WIS .
I can promise waves of new players and fresh blood with a release of bars with chicks dancing around in their military bikinis.
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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
93
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Posted - 2012.06.18 09:06:00 -
[380] - Quote
Will the new items include a Gorilla suit?
I assume pantomime horse outfits will have to wait until we have multi player CQs?
What is the current status with the Eve Chinese server? Will this affect the availability of those multi person Chinese Dragon costumes? They'll be great for the Alliance Christmas party. Fear God and Thread Nought |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
475
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Posted - 2012.06.18 09:30:00 -
[381] - Quote
Miss Whippy wrote:Next it will be ship paint, then god knows what else. Pretty soon we'll have to pay several times over, just to play the full version of the game we already pay to play.
**** MT.
Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's.
If you don't want to use MT no one is forcing you. You are not entitled to clothing or ship paints or "god knows what else". They are optional extras that don't affect your flying in space abilities. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
vagy
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.06.18 09:48:00 -
[382] - Quote
Jackie Fisher wrote:Will the new items include a Gorilla suit?
I assume pantomime horse outfits will have to wait until we have multi player CQs?
What is the current status with the Eve Chinese server? Will this affect the availability of those multi person Chinese Dragon costumes? They'll be great for the Alliance Christmas party.
:D that would be a conga line inside the station
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
601
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Posted - 2012.06.18 10:25:00 -
[383] - Quote
Miss Whippy wrote:Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's.
Then I guess the designers, artists, 3D modellers, animators, and who knows what else don't expect to be paid, since their work is "nothing more than a few 1's and 0's"? What about the programmers, game designers, testers, bug hunters - EVE's game code is "nothing more than a few 1's and 0's" too! Shouldn't we feel entitled to have all these people spend their time for our entertainment for absolutely free, since their product is not represented by a physical object you can hit an idiot in the head with? |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
97
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Posted - 2012.06.18 13:37:00 -
[384] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Damion Rayne wrote:It's not a trap, good god you people are deaf, dumb and blind. Mhm. And Farmville isn't one of the worst games ever created. DLC isn't just a way to charge for things that should have been in the game from the start. Buying a fancy digital hat isn't a total waste of money.
You're an idiot with zero game design experience. DLC, is usually created after the release of the game as a whole. Dawnguard for Skyrim for example, was started when production on the main game halted.
I'm gonna stop trying to reason with a bunch of close minded idiots. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Jonathan Malcom
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
90
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Posted - 2012.06.18 14:08:00 -
[385] - Quote
I'm still not interested in paying extra for addtional assets in this subscription game. Even if the assets are reasonably priced.
My subscription should entitle me to all content available.
CCP may disagree with me. And that's fine. That free 2000 Aurum is still sitting there. And it will continue to do so. I don't encourage bad behavior.
All clothing should be released as blueprints and manufacturable by players using PI mats. Deal with it. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.18 15:34:00 -
[386] - Quote
Alx Warlord wrote:The first time people felt the NEX it hurted.... This one hurts less and it fells good.... The next time will be only good...
lol
Anyone disagree?
with all respect ,i disagree
already paying for this game I could of course spend some isk ,but rather give that to a player who made the stuff . i want the Avatar part of this game , but the NEX is a fail ,give it to the dustbunnies pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
0
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Posted - 2012.06.18 16:25:00 -
[387] - Quote
I don't get it. Why CCP added aurum, when everything is about money, and ISK is buyable. Add everything in NEX store buyable for ISK. At least someone will buy PLEX for real money and sell it for ISK, when he needs more. Why, oh why, CCP complicate the game, when it is not needed. |
Christmas OnFIre
Northern Star Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.06.18 16:47:00 -
[388] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:Next it will be ship paint, then god knows what else. Pretty soon we'll have to pay several times over, just to play the full version of the game we already pay to play.
**** MT.
Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's. If you don't want to use MT no one is forcing you. You are not entitled to clothing or ship paints or "god knows what else". They are optional extras that don't affect your flying in space abilities.
An issue which i believe may be at the heart of many players concerns is that it is our subscriptions that have funded the development of these avatar items already.
So in effect we have already paid for said items, but cannot actually have them unless we destroy gametime (plex) or pay extra RL money directly to CCP.
At least thats my take on the situation. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
0
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:00:00 -
[389] - Quote
I (partially) funded EVE timelapse from Incarna expansion, i want my new cloths. Avatar system in combination with explorable interiors was the thing that lured me to this game, and i think eve needs more than just starbases. Imagine deadspace complexes in fps form. Planetary sites like in Mass effect. I will vote for this (when it will be proposed). |
spiders vengance
5th Front enterprises Gank for Profit
7
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:23:00 -
[390] - Quote
Its gonna be so great to be able to get new clothes for our toons that dont need them, too bad we wont be able to find them with the unified inventory system that is just getting ignored by CCP now. |
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
0
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:33:00 -
[391] - Quote
Clothes were in client, made long time ago, they are only making them usable now. Unified inventory is another thing, it's new and I agree, it needs some improvements. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
591
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Posted - 2012.06.18 17:38:00 -
[392] - Quote
spiders vengance wrote:Its gonna be so great to be able to get new clothes for our toons that dont need them, too bad we wont be able to find them with the unified inventory system that is just getting ignored by CCP now.
you could try to respond on the hundreds threads about it in GD or on the devblogs about it maybe you get better luck there
fly safe and don,t get too irritated about this game pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2012.06.18 19:32:00 -
[393] - Quote
spiders vengance wrote:Its gonna be so great to be able to get new clothes for our toons that dont need them, too bad we wont be able to find them with the unified inventory system that is just getting ignored by CCP now. In all reality, if you really can't find your stuff after all this time, maybe it's time to make sure the issue isn't between the seat and keyboard.
Or are you actually thinking that hyperbole will actually get someone to listen to you? |
Angst IronShard
33
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Posted - 2012.06.18 20:43:00 -
[394] - Quote
Is it because of clothes that the patch will be delayed ? if so remove them... |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2012.06.18 20:50:00 -
[395] - Quote
Angst IronShard wrote:Is it because of clothes that the patch will be delayed ? if so remove them... You heard the man. Take of you clothes. You can move faster without them. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2542
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Posted - 2012.06.18 21:11:00 -
[396] - Quote
Angst IronShard wrote:Is it because of clothes that the patch will be delayed ? if so remove them...
I, too, fully support avatar nudity. I dont know why we can purcha$e clothe$ for Aurum but can't exercise our right to protest by going commando!!
What's the problem, CCP, can't live up to your hype about this being a "cold harsh world??" Nothing is colder or harsher than being NAKED IN SPACE!
We are nude inside our pods, why must we hide behind these crude trappings that mortals must wear? It is an INSULT TO ALL FREE AND INDEPENDENT CAPSULEERS!! END FORCED SLAVERY, LET US BE SEEN NAKED, SOCKETS AND ALL!!
Who can I talk to about making this happen ASAP ??
+1 Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Acot Voth
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.06.18 21:15:00 -
[397] - Quote
Good, if this goes well it will give a big boost to WIS which would give a big boost to EVE itself. |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
30
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Posted - 2012.06.18 21:41:00 -
[398] - Quote
This might be of interest for those of you who have yet to do the quick math here.
1 US penny = 1.66 AUR with the 2500 bundle 1 US penny = 240,601 ISK @ 480m PLEX price and 19.95 PLEX price
with these figures 1 AUR = 144,940 ISK which is painful for classic 4500+ AUR items.
So the new items will have a "buy now" price of between 14m and 72m ISK, which is competitive with current apparel on the market although with the existence of free AUR floating around, and better PLEX packages the actual prices might be lower. I also suspect that people wanting to switch up to the new clothes might bring down existing clothes prices.
I believe the color of the clothes matters a bit less than what CCP anticipated since items with cheaper alternatives like Sterling Navy currently has a lower AUR to ISK ratio (which might not change much after the patch) than the unique shoes. Based off this theory any additional dress shirts won't be as popular as a new monocle which might affect the classic monocle's price.
Pretty soon we will see though, and I am excited. |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
286
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Posted - 2012.06.18 21:54:00 -
[399] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Angst IronShard wrote:Is it because of clothes that the patch will be delayed ? if so remove them... I, too, fully support avatar nudity. I dont know why we can purcha$e clothe$ for Aurum but can't exercise our right to protest by going commando!! What's the problem, CCP, can't live up to your hype about this being a "cold harsh world??" Nothing is colder or harsher than being NAKED IN SPACE! We are nude inside our pods, why must we hide behind these crude trappings that mortals must wear? It is an INSULT TO ALL FREE AND INDEPENDENT CAPSULEERS!! END FORCED SLAVERY, LET US BE SEEN NAKED, SOCKETS AND ALL!! Who can I talk to about making this happen ASAP ?? +1
Quoted For Truth!
Or at least give us a 20 second streak mode in stations that can be used once per day.... And maybe some station security that automatically chases streakers around... maybe give them tazers... |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
142
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Posted - 2012.06.18 22:18:00 -
[400] - Quote
Damion Rayne wrote:You're an idiot with zero game design experience. DLC, is usually created after the release of the game as a whole. Dawnguard for Skyrim for example, was started when production on the main game halted.
I'm gonna stop trying to reason with a bunch of close minded idiots.
Back in the day when we used to have "expansion packs" it made a whole lot more sense. You could, if you so desired, purchase a reasonable expansion to your game (Dawnguard for Skyrim is the modern successor to this concept, and it is a good thing.) However, these days you can purchase DLC on the same day as a game ships in some cases. This is motivated clearly by greed, and no, greed is not good. Microtransactions in a subscription based MMO is also motivated purely by greed, especially when that subscription based MMO is meant to be a working sandbox and science fiction simulator. The fact that after all these years it's still on a faucet/sink system is bad enough (but understandable.) Throwing in extra content which materializes from thin air and can be purchased for real money into the works is so utterly contrary to the core concept of EVE that it's preposterous to think that it was even seriously considered, let alone actually made it into the game.
Do try to think before you call others idiots. I know it may make you feel good, being a little insecure in your own position, but really it isn't called for. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
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Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
23
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Posted - 2012.06.18 22:48:00 -
[401] - Quote
A lot of this anti-AUR sentiment seems to be glossing over the fact that all these items are purchasable through effort in game. It is in no means reliant on you personally paying real money for it.
You make isk
You buy PLEX - PLEX in itself is a good idea because it basically represents someone paying your subscription fee for you in exchange for you putting work in on their behalf which is good for people who may have more time but less money.
You turn it into AUR
You spend it on clothes.
Or better yet, a lot of clothes are actually purchasable for isk at a cheaper price than if you had followed the steps above. Nobody is being excluded from this content. Yes it favours people with real money and lets hem advance in game for less effort just because they can pay, which I'm not a fan of, but it does allow someone else who puts effort in the game to play for free so it's better than most real money systems out there.
And letGÇÖs face it at least it isn't pay to win.
Support FW uniforms here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=112233 |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
142
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Posted - 2012.06.18 22:58:00 -
[402] - Quote
Ayame Yoshida wrote:A lot of this anti-AUR sentiment seems to be glossing over the fact that all these items are purchasable through effort in game. It is in no means reliant on you personally paying real money for it.
You make isk
You buy PLEX - PLEX in itself is a good idea because it basically represents someone paying your subscription fee for you in exchange for you putting work in on their behalf which is good for people who may have more time but less money.
You turn it into AUR
You spend it on clothes.
Or better yet, a lot of clothes are actually purchasable for isk at a cheaper price than if you had followed the steps above. Nobody is being excluded from this content. Yes it favours people with real money and lets hem advance in game for less effort just because they can pay, which I'm not a fan of, but it does allow someone else who puts effort in the game to play for free so it's better than most real money systems out there.
And letGÇÖs face it at least it isn't pay to win.
Being able to get these items without having to pay real money is indeed a good thing. However, the fact that they come from real money at all (and can then be sold to gain an in-game advantage in the form of ISK) is the real crux of the problem. Both aspects of this problem are crucial. The first aspect being something coming from nothing (which already happens in a faucet/sink system, only now it's involving real money) and the second aspect being that you can sell these things for in-game currency.
The faucet/sink system would not be a problem in a theme-park game. In a sandbox, however, especially one whose core concept is to be the ultimate science fiction simulator, it is far less than ideal for obvious reasons.
Being able to buy an advantage for real money might be fine for an arcade-style game (I brought more quarters than you which increases my chances of beating you to the point where you can't play anymore while I still have plenty of quarters to spare.) However, it's not fine for a subscription based game, especially one which is not only highly competitive but also one which is suppose to be something of a simulation. The purity and integrity of the simulation is compromised with such a system. As if it wasn't already compromised enough by PLEX, underwater physics, dumb-as-rocks NPCs, etc.
All in all, while I'm really glad that CCP at least made it so that you can get this content entirely within the realm of the game, the fact that you can also get it from outside of the game is incredible (and not the good kind of incredible, either.) Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Christmas OnFIre
Northern Star Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.06.18 23:09:00 -
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All in all, while I'm really glad that CCP at least made it so that you can get this content entirely within the realm of the game, the fact that you can also get it from outside of the game is incredible (and not the good kind of incredible, either.)[/quote]
QFT
I think we can probably draw a line under this statement and call it a day. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
143
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Posted - 2012.06.18 23:18:00 -
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Christmas OnFIre wrote:I think we can probably draw a line under this statement and call it a day.
Line drawn. See you tomorrow. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
379
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Posted - 2012.06.19 04:02:00 -
[405] - Quote
Hopefully a dev blog on multi avatar environments is coming soon.
In addition Give me slay (from the dust514 space on Playstation Home)in my captains quarters. That game is soooooo addictive. This is non-negotiable. I must have it. The little robots must die. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
379
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Posted - 2012.06.19 04:08:00 -
[406] - Quote
Also it's great to see that the idea that an Avatars appearance should reflect their achievements is actually happening with the FW uniforms.
If player is not in FW will they be able to wear the clothes? I think they shouldn't be able to, at least not without penalty. Perhaps when the other areas of stations finally open up players who try to pass as FW members should be fined).
My next suggestion would be to add clothes to pirate faction LP stores. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
SwissChris1
Battlestars S E D I T I O N
9
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Posted - 2012.06.19 05:19:00 -
[407] - Quote
I like this approach much better and FW LP clothing looks hot! Congrats for not being (too) greedy this time |
Amanda Sterling
Amphysvena
4
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:39:00 -
[408] - Quote
Add faction clothing and I'll consider spending some "AUR" in your "store". |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
809
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Posted - 2012.06.19 06:44:00 -
[409] - Quote
Now that we will be able to build up a virtual wardrobe anytime soon, this abbility begs for a couple of ancillary services, namely:
#1, "Show it off", AKA the ability to display full body avatars on the forums to show off clothing choices in until it comes a time that multiplayer WiS is real.
#2, "Put it on, baby", AKA the ability to switch clothes w/o redoing the portrait at all. The perfect tool would be an "avatar refitting window" within which we could drag and drop items between inventory and a mannequin, which is pretty much a standard procedure for RPGs.
This point of not recustomizing avatars for swtiching clothes is relevant because each portrait depicts a specific "frame" in the character animation cycle and so is more or less unique and unrepeatable even if the general pose is recorded. Also, IMO makes sense that switching clothes on our avatars was as easy as switching modules in our ships. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
264
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Posted - 2012.06.19 09:39:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:Next it will be ship paint, then god knows what else. Pretty soon we'll have to pay several times over, just to play the full version of the game we already pay to play.
**** MT.
Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's. With the new price scheme, it's 5 USD/EUR for the most expensive of the new items. Even less if you buy a GTC and nothing if you acquire a PLEX ingame. That's where industry's pricing for "Micro transactions" stands.
Still not micro by my definition of the word. Still having to pay extra for something we already pay for. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
264
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Posted - 2012.06.19 09:42:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:Not that there's anything Micro about paying $15 for something that is nothing more than a few 1's and 0's. Then I guess the designers, artists, 3D modellers, animators, and who knows what else don't expect to be paid, since their work is "nothing more than a few 1's and 0's"? What about the programmers, game designers, testers, bug hunters - EVE's game code is "nothing more than a few 1's and 0's" too! Shouldn't we feel entitled to have all these people spend their time for our entertainment for absolutely free, since their product is not represented by a physical object you can hit an idiot in the head with?
Yes, because once they've made it, it can only be sold once!
How do you think their development was paid for in the first place? Perhaps it's that subscription fee we pay for every month?
UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
239
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:34:00 -
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Ayame Yoshida wrote:A lot of this anti-AUR sentiment seems to be glossing over the fact that all these items are purchasable through effort in game. It is in no means reliant on you personally paying real money for it. It is statements like this that always bemuse me. Tomorrow I want you to tell your employer that you no longer wish to be paid anything at all for the hours you work because your time apparently isn't worth anything to you.
The NeX Store in itself is anti-sandbox by design and should have been built into the in-game mechanics as it was originally touted to be pre Incarna.
Personally I would much prefer Aurum be used to purchase things like the EON magazine and EVE Store items rather than removing potential additional content from the sandbox. I could easily see CCP selling a lot more of those items than they do currently if they were made available to purchase with Aurum.
Let's see, 100 graphics cards at 20 Plex each sold out in 64 seconds. Yep I think there is a market for selling out of game items rather than diluting the sandbox.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
51
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:37:00 -
[413] - Quote
FYI pockets are anachronistic even today. Do these "fashion designers" have a boss there? Who can accept these concepts? Terrible designs without any vision IMHO. |
Liberty Belle
MBT Interstellar
1
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:35:00 -
[414] - Quote
thx CCP. like loot drop idea too. |
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.19 16:22:00 -
[415] - Quote
Well done, this is very welcome. I love the idea of the loot, which is innovative and also makes sense.
I like the fact that prices are coming down, and this is the part that I like the most.
You could still have uber expensive items but at least have something for the middle or poorer classes...
The things that are still missing and which I am very eager to see one day are custom skins for my ships... I want to dress up my retriever like a rock and name it 'Veldspar' or maybe some other ore.
Fly unsafe... |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
595
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Posted - 2012.06.19 17:05:00 -
[416] - Quote
Ubat Batuk wrote:Well done, this is very welcome. I love the idea of the loot, which is innovative and also makes sense.
I like the fact that prices are coming down, and this is the part that I like the most.
You could still have uber expensive items but at least have something for the middle or poorer classes...
The things that are still missing and which I am very eager to see one day are custom skins for my ships... I want to dress up my retriever like a rock and name it 'Veldspar' or maybe some other ore.
Fly unsafe...
Should there be skins for those different classes ,you are talking about?
be safe in flying unsafe Greetings Old but pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Candente
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
24
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Posted - 2012.06.19 17:36:00 -
[417] - Quote
Looking at the table makes me . Since when "Nexon" has become a worldwide currency??? |
Gyllian Gael
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.19 18:05:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with expanding the WIS experience. I'm one of those who was actually looking forward for more to do outside of our ships. I still hope they give us most of what was planned rather than having my character quarantined in her quarters like she's a carrier for some alien plague.
EVE just mucked it up by opening the NEX with a paltry selection, charging outrages prices for all of the items, while simultaneously talking about nickle and diming the community in a pay-to-win model for the in-ship game and declaring virtual clothing should command the price of Guess jeans. This unfortunately tied the two together in many players' minds. EVE then reinforced that impression by failing to reduce prices or add inexpensive items. If they wanted a few premium items (which I think is silly), they should have released the cheap stuff first so that the player base understands that they were meant to be the exception and not the rule.
The WIS stuff would have been enjoyable except to a very vocal core had EVE not fantasized about mucking with the established game in fundamental, cynical ways at the same time. It's sad that the devs almost have to ask permission to release assets and to make them available the way they should have been from the beginning.
No one complains about paying for hats and customizables in TF2 and Portal 2 because their devs didn't charge their players 70 bucks for them while threatening to sell double damage ammo for the Heavy.
All that said, this is a very welcome addition. Now I just wish I could actually see other characters strutting about in their fancy new digs in station. |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.06.19 19:47:00 -
[419] - Quote
Gyllian Gael wrote: No one complains about paying for hats and customizables in TF2 and Portal 2 because their devs didn't charge their players 70 bucks for them while threatening to sell double damage ammo for the Heavy.
Jesus christ, CCP never said this, never even hinted at it. If you're referring to that bullshit internal memo that was clearly edited and had all of the disclaimers and other entire pages removed from it, then you've bought into a bunch of trolling propaganda. CCP was never going to, and had never planned to, introduce a pay to win scenario.
In fact, they said multiple times, over and over again, clearly, in bold print, that their intent is the opposite of this. Why people fail to understand this point, is beyond me.
For ****'s sake it was almost a year ago already, let it go. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
596
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Posted - 2012.06.19 19:54:00 -
[420] - Quote
PinkKnife wrote:Gyllian Gael wrote: No one complains about paying for hats and customizables in TF2 and Portal 2 because their devs didn't charge their players 70 bucks for them while threatening to sell double damage ammo for the Heavy.
Jesus christ, CCP never said this, never even hinted at it. If you're referring to that bullshit internal memo that was clearly edited and had all of the disclaimers and other entire pages removed from it, then you've bought into a bunch of trolling propaganda. CCP was never going to, and had never planned to, introduce a pay to win scenario. In fact, they said multiple times, over and over again, clearly, in bold print, that their intent is the opposite of this. Why people fail to understand this point, is beyond me. For ****'s sake it was almost a year ago already, let it go.
CCP can,t forget also .every time some poor little kid is screaming around these forums they stop blogs already written. There is a very small team called Team Avatar ,they made a blog about Avatar related stuff and hopefully some more WIS related stuff. But bc of little raging kids the blog never showed up
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
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Wiu Ming
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
3
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:19:00 -
[421] - Quote
This is so epic, and boy oh boy I can't wait to spend more Aurum. A few thoughts...
When we open the NEX Store window, could it open in its own effing window again? We kinda liked having that functionality. Or at least give us a box to check/uncheck in the ESC menu. Something like "never open windows in the same pane ever again."
When we're in station and have clothing stored in an inactive ship's cargohold, can we please for the love of God double-click to open its cargo bay again? Right now when i want to find some pants, searching a few cargoholds by double-clicking them forces me to jump into each ship. You have to right-click, hold shift, open cargohold. It sure would be nice to find pants with 33% fewer clicks. But then it would only be a matter of time until someone peed all over my happy state and added "increased functionality - featuring 50% more clicks!! Now requiring two hands!!!"
I like to store monocles in the Corp Hangars of carriers. Why the Christ can't I right-click a docked Thanatos to see the "open Corp Hangar Array" menu option?
I'm so looking forward to getting some new boots. Thank goodness I can't keep spare boots in a Ship Maintenance Array. If we could, I'd be asking, "Why the Christ can't I right-click a docked Thanatos to see the 'open Ship Maintenance Array" menu option?"
Since I can't keep boots in a Ship Maintenance Array, I keep each pair separately in its own special can. Will be back to comment further, I accidentally the right-click button with the left hand, holding left shift with the right hand and well... knot.
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
31
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:22:00 -
[422] - Quote
I personally think all items in the NeX store should be the same price [say 100 aurum for every item] like some kind of glorified -ú1 shop. Might give all items an equal footing in being bought. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
147
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:14:00 -
[423] - Quote
PinkKnife wrote:[quote=Gyllian Gael]CCP was never going to, and had never planned to, introduce a pay to win scenario.
In fact, they said multiple times, over and over again, clearly, in bold print, that their intent is the opposite of this. Why people fail to understand this point, is beyond me.
For ****'s sake it was almost a year ago already, let it go.
It's been "pay-to-win" (read: buy an advantage with real money) ever since they introduced PLEX. And just because the big hubbaloo happened a year ago doesn't mean we don't still have the same problem today. Very little has been fixed.
CCP is very lucky they're pretty much the only sandbox spaceship MMO out there, otherwise they wouldn't have room for mistakes like NeX.
Edit: Once again, in case people read this without reading my other posts, Incarna itself is freaking awesome. It's the microtransactions that are terrible. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Hakugard Odinsson
Inertia Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 00:27:00 -
[424] - Quote
I approve of this expansion of the NeX store, maybe I might actually end up spending my 5500 Aurum on something. |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
289
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Posted - 2012.06.20 00:38:00 -
[425] - Quote
Wiu Ming wrote:This is so epic, and boy oh boy I can't wait to spend more Aurum. A few thoughts...
When we open the NEX Store window, could it open in its own effing window again? We kinda liked having that functionality. Or at least give us a box to check/uncheck in the ESC menu. Something like "never open windows in the same pane ever again."
When we're in station and have clothing stored in an inactive ship's cargohold, can we please for the love of God double-click to open its cargo bay again? Right now when i want to find some pants, searching a few cargoholds by double-clicking them forces me to jump into each ship. You have to right-click, hold shift, open cargohold. It sure would be nice to find pants with 33% fewer clicks. But then it would only be a matter of time until someone peed all over my happy state and added "increased functionality - featuring 50% more clicks!! Now requiring two hands!!!"
I like to store monocles in the Corp Hangars of carriers. Why the Christ can't I right-click a docked Thanatos to see the "open Corp Hangar Array" menu option?
I'm so looking forward to getting some new boots. Thank goodness I can't keep spare boots in a Ship Maintenance Array. If we could, I'd be asking, "Why the Christ can't I right-click a docked Thanatos to see the 'open Ship Maintenance Array" menu option?"
Since I can't keep boots in a Ship Maintenance Array, I keep each pair separately in its own special can. Will be back to comment further, I accidentally the right-click button with the left hand, holding left shift with the right hand and well... knot.
Quoted because its awesome! |
Xylem Tube
The Dead Pod Society
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:39:00 -
[426] - Quote
sweet, all we need now is hats! ... ... http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/uziTTX/Hat_portrait.jpg (excuse the shite photoshop) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2091
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Posted - 2012.06.20 05:40:00 -
[427] - Quote
Mechael wrote:PinkKnife wrote:[quote=Gyllian Gael]CCP was never going to, and had never planned to, introduce a pay to win scenario.
In fact, they said multiple times, over and over again, clearly, in bold print, that their intent is the opposite of this. Why people fail to understand this point, is beyond me.
For ****'s sake it was almost a year ago already, let it go. It's been "pay-to-win" (read: buy an advantage with real money) ever since they introduced PLEX. And just because the big hubbaloo happened a year ago doesn't mean we don't still have the same problem today. Very little has been fixed. CCP is very lucky they're pretty much the only sandbox spaceship MMO out there, otherwise they wouldn't have room for mistakes like NeX. Edit: Once again, in case people read this without reading my other posts, Incarna itself is freaking awesome. It's the microtransactions that are terrible.
PLEX would be "pay to win" if the items you bought with Cash were not also freely available on the open market for ISK.
So unless you are saying items that are purchasable for ISK are also somehow pay to win what we actually have is the option to pay for anything in game with either cash or ISK... which is an entirely different beast. One I personally have no problem with. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
30
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Posted - 2012.06.20 06:24:00 -
[428] - Quote
Hakugard Odinsson wrote:I approve of this expansion of the NeX store, maybe I might actually end up spending my 5500 Aurum on something.
5500 AUR is like over 750m in ISK if it were possible to convert AUR back to PLEX. My suspicion is that people like me (no AUR) will be willing to buy new NEX items on the open market for ISK when the new items go live for about what the AUR's value is in ISK if items are available. If the prices go higher than 14m (100AUR) -72m (500AUR) which might happen if the demand for the apparel exceeds the willingness to spend real money, it will be cheaper for people like me to buy AUR. I think the opposite will be true though and people like you who still have free AUR will be enough to cover the demands and prices might be slightly lower than the "AUR" value. Either way I think you should be able to easily make a good amount of ISK of the new items or else enjoy a new wardrobe. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
811
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Posted - 2012.06.20 06:32:00 -
[429] - Quote
Hakugard Odinsson wrote:I approve of this expansion of the NeX store, maybe I might actually end up spending my 5500 Aurum on something.
I just noticed that I've got 15,000 AUR spread across my accounts. It's gonna be one hell of a shopping season. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2554
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Posted - 2012.06.20 07:32:00 -
[430] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I just noticed that I've got 15,000 AUR spread across my accounts. It's gonna be one hell of a shopping season.
Eat your heart out. You've earned it, Indahmawar, THIS MOMENT IS YOURS!!! STRUT YOUR SEXY STUFF. Not even the FiS haters can ruin your day and stop you now. YOU ARE INCONVINCIBLE!!
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Arsonata
De Re Metallica Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 09:23:00 -
[431] - Quote
Why did you bother? Nobody would be seen dead in these "fashions", in EVE or real life.
How about them looking at some real historical fashions to get some ideas. Oh yeah, I beleive most human beings can see in colour. |
Anoexia
Fr33 Banking and Trade
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 09:25:00 -
[432] - Quote
I think that the purchasing of Alliance and Corporation logos for ships might be a start and a useful way to get people buying selling and trading Aurum. Then we can give the Art Department a stroke by telling them we want a color palette added to the new models. I think the appropriate color for all Minmatar ships should include primer gray or red naval anti corrosion. |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2012.06.20 12:43:00 -
[433] - Quote
Just feel that its pertenant to point out that plex is not the first pay to win game addition, for as long as i can remember there has been the gtc market featuring 60 day cards. there used to be a 30 day but they dropped that a while ago, then they brought in the plex, which is a 30 day time card.
Plex really has done nothing new. I dont understand everyone who claims that it ruined anything or introduced a new business model into eve. It didnt.
~ When i first started this game i bought and sold a gtc, then i spent ~300 of it on science skill books. I still have some of the books i bought as a two day old character. /sigh.
edit ->
And the fashions are pretty ugly. seriously whos designing this crap? the same people who think one window is better? Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Ships to goo calc - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107898 |
Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:25:00 -
[434] - Quote
Gyllian Gael wrote:The WIS stuff would have been enjoyable except to a very vocal core had EVE not fantasized about mucking with the established game in fundamental, cynical ways at the same time. It's sad that the devs almost have to ask permission to release assets and to make them available the way they should have been from the beginning.
ha yeah i noticed that too, that end line "We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client. LOL
so sad |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
598
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Posted - 2012.06.20 14:47:00 -
[435] - Quote
Hermia wrote:Gyllian Gael wrote:The WIS stuff would have been enjoyable except to a very vocal core had EVE not fantasized about mucking with the established game in fundamental, cynical ways at the same time. It's sad that the devs almost have to ask permission to release assets and to make them available the way they should have been from the beginning. ha yeah i noticed that too, that end line "We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client. LOL so sad
+1 indeed its very sad The wis and avatar part of this game has a very small team ,that was made clear after they changed direction to FIS everybody even the Wislovers welcomed the change in direction
For some reason their are a few little kids crying when something don,t go their way. CCP has become very afraid of a few people and is afraid to make additions to the game even if that means no extra loss from FIS resources.
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
289
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:51:00 -
[436] - Quote
Personally, I would love for CCP to devote enough resources to get WiS fully functional in one big push... Give us common places with establishments and entertainment and all that other good stuff, and I dont think anyone will complain much.
Also I would love to know what CCP is doing about that idea of making WiS a free to play aspect of eve, and requiring game time only for flying ships. That would bring in huge numbers of people to eve, and I think I recall CCP reacting favorably to that idea.
The time is ripe to put this stuff into action with all the Dust bunnies about to land. |
Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.06.21 00:28:00 -
[437] - Quote
Maul555 wrote:Also I would love to know what CCP is doing about that idea of making WiS a free to play aspect of eve, and requiring game time only for flying ships and skill training. That would bring in huge numbers of people to eve, and I think I recall CCP reacting favorably to that idea.
I read this idea in Features/Ideas discussion, some inspired chap i cant remember. Its a great idea.
1) F2P people could pave the way for ship crews a. Adding abilities to ships b. Taking the role of ship modules by playing mini-game (freeing up slots)
2) F2P people could be ferried for money from station to station a. Increases Immersion b. Making courier missions viable c. Excellent role-play potential
3) F2P for stations will dramatically increase population without causing space to shrink.
However, in order for CCP to make non-PLEXers F2P there would have to be enough station content or ship environments so it doesn't flop. |
Dr Ted Kaper
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
5
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:27:00 -
[438] - Quote
Damion Rayne wrote:Good gods all you people do is whine....you're all a bunch of children, trolls, and down right morons.
How the hell you people can equate this to buying ships for AUR is beyond me, you doomsayers really need to get a grip. Yes, this is business, but CCP are committed to keeping Eve the sandbox it is. How avatar gameplay waters down the sandbox is beyond me, or did you blind morons not notice the whole "we scrapped the old system and we're sorry we had the audacity to call it an expansion" thing? Some of us dont like that we already pay for this game (and it is rather expensive in relation to most games). So why are we going to pay more for special ingame items. The fear is also that CCP might take it even further and involve other special items that will have influence on 'sandbox' gameplay. Also it waters down the sandbox becuase it is second item in the game which can be bought and then sold for ingame items. Not that I'm complaining about PLEX, but I'd prefer that the ability to simply pour money into the game to be rich ingame is kept to a minimum. Although i do agree there are some things that CCP has done to improve the game that really did not deserve negative feedback. |
Lubba Luft
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:03:00 -
[439] - Quote
Don't you think Goons have too much power over this game already as to direct CCP in their gameplay decision making? The latest CSM chairman was sacked for being an idiot. That should sum it up. I considered WiS a not too bad idea. I bet at least half of us have only one account and have no interest in high end content because we simply lack the time and will to make EVE a full time hobby. Initially I was against the F2P idea, but now it doesn't sound that bad, since I realised it's going to be impossible for me to enjoy all aspect of this huge game. Maybe I just want to pay for those areas of the game I'm interested in , and make progress as i gain experience. I found it impossible to travel too far because of gate campers, warp bubbles and wayy more experienced people who enjoy podding pilots with their T3 cruisers. But I understand that segmenting this game will underminde it's Sandbox nature. So a compromise has to be found. In the meantime, just make us look good, give us more clothes! |
Susiqueta Muir
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.06.21 10:59:00 -
[440] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Anvil44 wrote: ...Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.
Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe. If this test proves successful this is exactly the kind of thing I would like to investigate.
What I do miss from the original Character designer is the range of non-utility clothing which was available. I agree with the whole "They are the elite of humanity" view so why should they wear bland and boring attire?
I always got the impression from this avatar's original picture that she'd been dragged out of the pod, shoved into an ill-fitting formal outfit and shoved in-front of a camera for her mugshot. :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xxxyz721/5600006235/in/set-72157625866272606
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xxxyz721/7047370601/in/set-72157625866272606
From a tech/dev perspective though, isn't there a lot of potential cross-over between assets created for EOL and WOD? Why not test potentially compatable clothing from WOD on Sisi with the potential to get early player feedback on the look/feel but also to mark potential items which could be made available via NeX?
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
92
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:04:00 -
[441] - Quote
Ok, OOC the pricing does not matter much to me. IC, though, this character would never be able to justify spending the equivalent of 17,000,000 ISK on one item of clothing. So don't remove free clothing options, even though that means Ch+¬ will have to wear simple, non-designer clothes.
Addition: In the old days, there used to be those damaged minnie clothes, right? I kinda miss those. Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing Sub-warp racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164 |
Susiqueta Muir
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.06.22 09:48:00 -
[442] - Quote
Che Biko wrote:Ok, OOC the pricing does not matter much to me. IC, though, this character would never be able to justify spending the equivalent of 17,000,000 ISK on one item of clothing. So don't remove free clothing options, even though that means Ch+¬ will have to wear simple, non-designer clothes.
Addition: In the old days, there used to be those damaged minnie clothes, right? I kinda miss those.
Aye,
Just the range of items that were available....
With the new ship skinning going on (where there are additional layers for logos etc), can the same be applied to clothing? Can we have a "Toggle corp logo on/off" option?
Leather jackets with corp logos on the back anyone? :)
SM. |
knobber Jobbler
182
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Posted - 2012.06.22 13:55:00 -
[443] - Quote
Put more in for free please. The character creator in EVE is quite bland and AUR is quite expensive. ;) |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
3
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Posted - 2012.06.22 23:22:00 -
[444] - Quote
Quote:Leather jackets with corp logos on the back anyone? :)
If you were playing APB, there is this option to customize your clothing by adding stripes, logos, and bunch of other graphic things. Thats nothing new, and maybe can be appied to EVE model of clothing, with little work, i dont know, lets ask some devs.
Also, i think that some "futuristic" looking scafanders, overalls for miners, infogearments will do if we want to be "ahead". I see designs similar to this http://www.sklep-nurkowy.pl/bilder/subiekt/000000000000001911_5362_4dccfade4ad91.jpg apropriate. Also head gear like this http://www.theimaginaryzebra.com/images/blog/060309_6.jpg would be nice but with half transparent visor. |
Iohan Sjet
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.06.23 13:00:00 -
[445] - Quote
.... or the ability to wear medals earned in faction warfare? |
Xavier Linx
Omni Research The Methodical Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.06.23 23:24:00 -
[446] - Quote
In the dark years between 2006 - 2011 we had the dubious joy of seeing Devs actively cheating and CCP abusing it's player base. I'm very sad to see this abuse start over again with the expansion of the microtransaction feature.
Sorry to say, but im just disgusted with CCP claiming a "null-cost" implementation. It's a lie. CCP has never been very good liars. Plese stop. Try some dignity for once. Tell us the truth: You Will Force This On The Player Base Regardless Of The Consequences. FiS is a thing of the past. As soon as Dust514 hit's the air active development of Eve FiS wil stop.
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
96
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Posted - 2012.06.24 00:01:00 -
[447] - Quote
Iohan Sjet wrote:.... or the ability to wear medals earned in faction warfare? Why stop there? You should be able to wear all medals. Oh, and on a side note, I think you should be able to give medals to pilots outside of your corp/alliance.
Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing Sub-warp racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164 |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
31
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:28:00 -
[448] - Quote
A couple of days ago a Women's Sterling Dress Bouse (Black Leather) and a Women't Minima Heels (Red) were sold somewhere in the Forge. The White/Black Mystrioso shoes are still up at Jita. Were these prototypes from a developer, or did the store go live for a few minutes? Are these part of the line from the new NEX, or LP shops? |
Eternize
Siam Dragons
12
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Posted - 2012.06.24 13:38:00 -
[449] - Quote
edited: Mistake |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
822
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Posted - 2012.06.24 21:46:00 -
[450] - Quote
I just had a LOL moment... can you figure what would happen if the missing WiS devblog originally scheduled for May 29th was about "an upcoming release of NEX items", namely the one being delivered tomorrow before the devblog is published...? EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
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Sasha Venomina
Use of Weapons
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:14:00 -
[451] - Quote
Gilbaron wrote:steam workshop for eve please :)
player designed, ccp approved clothes, hairstyles, furniture, ship logos,...
once approved, the designer gets X percent of all sales (maybe only in aurum, which can also be used to buy plex from ccp)
THIS ^
because although CCP is creative... you wont beat the sheer personal investment Eve players can put out in terms of creativity
we'll have hats, skirts, capes, Lab coats, gimpsuits, superman disguises etc...
When can we Tag our ships with alliance logos and customize them ?
are we gonna be able to transfer aurum between pilots ? |
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2012.06.25 09:29:00 -
[452] - Quote
Xavier Linx wrote:In the dark years between 2006 - 2011 we had the dubious joy of seeing Devs actively cheating and CCP abusing it's player base. I'm very sad to see this abuse start over again with the expansion of the microtransaction feature.
Sorry to say, but im just disgusted with CCP claiming a "null-cost" implementation. It's a lie. CCP has never been very good liars. Plese stop. Try some dignity for once. Tell us the truth: You Will Force This On The Player Base Regardless Of The Consequences. FiS is a thing of the past. As soon as Dust514 hit's the air active development of Eve FiS wil stop.
BAH HA HA HA HA!
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Tylbana
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:10:00 -
[453] - Quote
There is absolutly nothing wrong with charging money for vanity items. |
Rebecca Cairn
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:42:00 -
[454] - Quote
So why were the Men's 'Sterling' Dress Shirt (Ishukone Special Edition) and Women's 'Executor' Coat (red/gold) released for 500 AUR if CCP were trying to be mindful of players investments? |
Abigail Sagan
Active Fusion Cold Fusion.
15
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:51:00 -
[455] - Quote
It is good to see the new clothes for our avatars because it gives us a little bit of hope of seeing someone else's avatar interacting with ours at some point in time. The clothes in their current form are rather pointless. Dont take me wrong: I still hope that will change one day, but I am losing that hope.
There is one more nitpick there though: The Amarr, the Caldari, the Gallente and the Minmatar all supposed to have their own cultures, yet they all dress the same uniform when they go to war - just in different color. Apparently in EVE all the militia uniforms are manufactured by the same Caldari corporation; the corporation just dyes the same uniform to different colors and sells them to all militias. I guess they make a killing in uniform sales. Only the Caldari are smart enough to do so.
tldr: Different color does not culture make.
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Talisa Latarien
Dark Tempest Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:46:00 -
[456] - Quote
Rebecca Cairn wrote:So why were the Men's 'Sterling' Dress Shirt (Ishukone Special Edition) and Women's 'Executor' Coat (red/gold) released for 500 AUR if CCP were trying to be mindful of players investments?
Now I'm certainly not impartial here (just look at the picture to the left), but there's another question. If they decided that red/gold executor is not a unique item, and it's for sale now, then why the green/gold male counterpart is not? Or are they planning to release that later, too? |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
97
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:55:00 -
[457] - Quote
Female pants for 100 aur are kind of worthless now despite their price 3900 AUR before. Same for knee boots.
Red/gold coats turned out to be very profitable to resell for 150-300m (their aurum price is around 70mil) - during few minutes after DT when yesterday buying orders were still available. Thanks for 10-digit income I've made instantly in Jita and Amarr!
May we have 500 AUR monocle now? It will be really fun. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
602
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:09:00 -
[458] - Quote
Xavier Linx wrote:In the dark years between 2006 - 2011 we had the dubious joy of seeing Devs actively cheating and CCP abusing it's player base. I'm very sad to see this abuse start over again with the expansion of the microtransaction feature.
Sorry to say, but im just disgusted with CCP claiming a "null-cost" implementation. It's a lie. CCP has never been very good liars. Plese stop. Try some dignity for once. Tell us the truth: You Will Force This On The Player Base Regardless Of The Consequences. FiS is a thing of the past. As soon as Dust514 hit's the air active development of Eve FiS wil stop.
We know CCP can do some weird things or make promises they can,t hold up . But i think they are not that dumb to remove too much resources from the spacepart of this game they even hold back promised blogs to satisfy the only FIS players pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Neathy
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:31:00 -
[459] - Quote
I don't see where you can buy AUR for 4.99 USD have not been able to figure it out. |
Lina Alar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
730
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Posted - 2012.06.25 22:41:00 -
[460] - Quote
Neathy wrote:I don't see where you can buy AUR for 4.99 USD have not been able to figure it out. Why are you not in Red? Your corp should buy all of its members a Red Shirt. An explanation of Eve socialization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTbgvYPVdXE |
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2600
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Posted - 2012.06.25 22:44:00 -
[461] - Quote
Lina Alar wrote:Why are you not in Red? Your corp should buy all of its members a Red Shirt.
I don't think there was much isk left over for new clothes, it all went to breast augmentation first. Apparently "juggs" is the official uniform. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Disdaine
410
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Posted - 2012.06.26 01:57:00 -
[462] - Quote
So why couldn't you release some of the 200 items instead of throwing clothing with already established values onto the nex for peanuts. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
824
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Posted - 2012.06.26 06:58:00 -
[463] - Quote
Well, that's fine, i guess... out of 31 female apparel items I had picked on Sisi, 2 of them made it into the NEx store, now the most glorified garage sale in New Eden.
I guess that I will have to wait for Hans to get all those items i miss and buy them from him at a friend's price, right? Because, the other 100+ items have been seeded at FW LP stores, right?
What is intriguing me most is how they do expect that people will buy AUR with RL cash to get any of the 13 (thirteen) new items. It's just like when they expected that people would spend 80 bucks on a monocle. "Coherence" is the name of the game i see here.
Coherence to never get it right, I mean, giving clothes to people who doesn't gives a rat's ass of them (first the nullsec uberplayers, now the FW pewpewers) and essentially dismissing WiS people.
Come on, CCP. Tell us it's a prank. Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Sjofn Ogsdottr
Furyan Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 10:36:00 -
[464] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:GǪ Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other...
Indah, it's even worse than that.
Was able to track down one of those white/black dresses that had been put up for sale in the market. Tried it on, and it's one of the most unflattering pieces of clothing I've seen, in game OR RL.
If you didn't originally choose the slimmest possible body type, it'll make your ass look HUGE. The hip pockets balloon out like ***** packs. If I'd have tried it on in real life, I'd have burst into tears.
So, not only did they release fewer pieces than they have backlogged, but some of the pieces they did let out are fugly.
I almost wonder if there were any female designers on staff when these skins were created. |
Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:28:00 -
[465] - Quote
Thank you Team Avatar!
Given the development plan of Flying-in-Space this year, drip feeding us pre-made items is appreciated! Its good to see that the flame is being kept alive. In general cloths for men are styled great but i wish there was more feminine clothing for girl avatars.
If we have to wait years for more station environments then i hope the following is being considered:
- Station interiors (maps) should reflect the dimensions of the station's exterior. This is important! Otherwise we're just inside a bunch of rooms with no relevance to the station we just flew too. I worry about this, i know it would be much easier technically and less labor intensive to just ignore the fact.
- WiS environments live on separate servers to FiS. This was the reason given (many years ago) why windows will not be possible for stations, effectively connecting WiS to FiS. This is very disappointing and a missed opportunity. Pushing beyond the industry benchmarks for immersion will not be achieved.
- Ship environments where you have a bridge (with windows) that connect to other rooms (using a map layout reflects the exterior) like engineering, officers mess, subsystems, etc.
End of the day, its CCP's business to deliver the highest immersion possible. We should feel that we're walking around a station, that's floating in space orbiting a moon. Eve needs to stay ahead.
but ill probably still play if they can do it ha :)
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Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:31:00 -
[466] - Quote
double post |
Ms Michigan
Aviation Professionals for EVE
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:49:00 -
[467] - Quote
Yeah I really wanted some more option in the NEX store. Unlike many others I was underpowered by the variety of items.
I will say the dev's said they would see how this goes and release more. So WAITING...patiently.
Oh one more thing...
SUGGESTION FOR DEVS - Can we CHANGE OUR CLOTHES but NOT have to change our Portrait????
This WOULD BE AWESOME.
I am tired of having to reposition my toon and mandatorily have to take another picture. This one is fine for what people will come to see. My clothes on the other hand reflect my mood or whatever. Sort of like a drivers license picture...it doesn't change because I changed my clothes nor do I have to retake my picture.
Ms M
P.S. Give me moar heels or give me death. |
Gerald Taric
69
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:53:00 -
[468] - Quote
I just want to say a warm "thank you" to CCP for putting the noble looking black&gold shirt into the NEX store for just 500 AUR.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
540
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:13:00 -
[469] - Quote
Rebecca Cairn wrote:So why were the Men's 'Sterling' Dress Shirt (Ishukone Special Edition) and Women's 'Executor' Coat (red/gold) released for 500 AUR if CCP were trying to be mindful of players investments? I guess the reason is that those items never had an AUR price.
It would be nice to hear the reasoning from CCP though. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
824
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:36:00 -
[470] - Quote
Sjofn Ogsdottr wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:GǪ Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... Indah, it's even worse than that. Was able to track down one of those white/black dresses that had been put up for sale in the market. Tried it on, and it's one of the most unflattering pieces of clothing I've seen, in game OR RL. If you didn't originally choose the slimmest possible body type, it'll make your ass look HUGE. The hip pockets balloon out like ***** packs. If I'd have tried it on in real life, I'd have burst into tears. So, not only did they release fewer pieces than they have backlogged, but some of the pieces they did let out are fugly. I almost wonder if there were any female designers on staff when these skins were created.
Whatever. I've grown tired of mining so will shut down this account in a couple of days now that there's no point to wait for CCP. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
133
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Posted - 2012.06.26 20:24:00 -
[471] - Quote
10 days without a new Dev blog.... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2113
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Posted - 2012.06.26 20:28:00 -
[472] - Quote
Ms Michigan wrote:Yeah I really wanted some more option in the NEX store. Unlike many others I was underpowered by the variety of items. I will say the dev's said they would see how this goes and release more. So WAITING...patiently. Oh one more thing... SUGGESTION FOR DEVS - Can we CHANGE OUR CLOTHES but NOT have to change our Portrait???? This WOULD BE AWESOME. I am tired of having to reposition my toon and mandatorily have to take another picture. This one is fine for what people will come to see. My clothes on the other hand reflect my mood or whatever. Sort of like a drivers license picture...it doesn't change because I changed my clothes nor do I have to retake my picture. Ms M P.S. Give me moar heels or give me death.
Not a bad option to have is possible, but you do realize you don't have to change position after changing clothes. Just hit finalize or, if you want to be careful, snap a pic first and then finalize. Your pic will look identical except for the clothing change. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
757
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Posted - 2012.06.26 20:58:00 -
[473] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Ms Michigan wrote:Yeah I really wanted some more option in the NEX store. Unlike many others I was underpowered by the variety of items. I will say the dev's said they would see how this goes and release more. So WAITING...patiently. Oh one more thing... SUGGESTION FOR DEVS - Can we CHANGE OUR CLOTHES but NOT have to change our Portrait???? This WOULD BE AWESOME. I am tired of having to reposition my toon and mandatorily have to take another picture. This one is fine for what people will come to see. My clothes on the other hand reflect my mood or whatever. Sort of like a drivers license picture...it doesn't change because I changed my clothes nor do I have to retake my picture. Ms M P.S. Give me moar heels or give me death. Not a bad option to have is possible, but you do realize you don't have to change position after changing clothes. Just hit finalize or, if you want to be careful, snap a pic first and then finalize. Your pic will look identical except for the clothing change. I did that once only to find in the new portrait my eyes were closed. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2113
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Posted - 2012.06.26 21:10:00 -
[474] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Ms Michigan wrote:Yeah I really wanted some more option in the NEX store. Unlike many others I was underpowered by the variety of items. I will say the dev's said they would see how this goes and release more. So WAITING...patiently. Oh one more thing... SUGGESTION FOR DEVS - Can we CHANGE OUR CLOTHES but NOT have to change our Portrait???? This WOULD BE AWESOME. I am tired of having to reposition my toon and mandatorily have to take another picture. This one is fine for what people will come to see. My clothes on the other hand reflect my mood or whatever. Sort of like a drivers license picture...it doesn't change because I changed my clothes nor do I have to retake my picture. Ms M P.S. Give me moar heels or give me death. Not a bad option to have is possible, but you do realize you don't have to change position after changing clothes. Just hit finalize or, if you want to be careful, snap a pic first and then finalize. Your pic will look identical except for the clothing change. I did that once only to find in the new portrait my eyes were closed.
Yeah, that's why I don't do anything but snap a pic, check it, and finalize... although I thought they fixed the eyes closed thing in the final pictures. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
3
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Posted - 2012.06.26 22:17:00 -
[475] - Quote
I like Mamooth made of cardboard and duct tape more than Aurum. Also, where is rest of clothes? |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
241
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Posted - 2012.06.27 04:14:00 -
[476] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, that's fine, i guess... out of 31 female apparel items I had picked on Sisi, 2 of them made it into the NEx store, now the most glorified garage sale in New Eden. I guess that I will have to wait for Hans to get all those items i miss and buy them from him at a friend's price, right? Because, the other 100+ items have been seeded at FW LP stores, right? What is intriguing me most is how they do expect that people will buy AUR with RL cash to get any of the 13 (thirteen) new items. It's just like when they expected that people would spend 80 bucks on a monocle. "Coherence" is the name of the game i see here. Coherence to never get it right, I mean, giving clothes to people who doesn't gives a rat's ass of them (first the nullsec uberplayers, now the FW pewpewers) and essentially dismissing WiS people. Come on, CCP. Tell us it's a prank. Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... So "WiS people" by your apparent definition are only those that wish to buy Nex Store items, I disagree. For me I'd rather see WiS become an integral useful addition to EVE gameplay, rather than the window dressing sideshow it has become.
It's sad that CCP decided to go the route of the NeX Store rather than following their previous visions for WiS as per Ambulation, all in the name of jumping on the microtransactions bandwagon instead of maintaining the integrity of EVE. The NeX Store creates nothing good in the long run for EVE.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Tylbana
0
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Posted - 2012.06.27 05:56:00 -
[477] - Quote
Can we get some purple, please?
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
825
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Posted - 2012.06.27 06:52:00 -
[478] - Quote
Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, that's fine, i guess... out of 31 female apparel items I had picked on Sisi, 2 of them made it into the NEx store, now the most glorified garage sale in New Eden. I guess that I will have to wait for Hans to get all those items i miss and buy them from him at a friend's price, right? Because, the other 100+ items have been seeded at FW LP stores, right? What is intriguing me most is how they do expect that people will buy AUR with RL cash to get any of the 13 (thirteen) new items. It's just like when they expected that people would spend 80 bucks on a monocle. "Coherence" is the name of the game i see here. Coherence to never get it right, I mean, giving clothes to people who doesn't gives a rat's ass of them (first the nullsec uberplayers, now the FW pewpewers) and essentially dismissing WiS people. Come on, CCP. Tell us it's a prank. Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... So "WiS people" by your apparent definition are only those that wish to buy Nex Store items, I disagree. For me I'd rather see WiS become an integral useful addition to EVE gameplay, rather than the window dressing sideshow it has become. It's sad that CCP decided to go the route of the NeX Store rather than following their previous visions for WiS as per Ambulation, all in the name of jumping on the microtransactions bandwagon instead of maintaining the integrity of EVE. The NeX Store creates nothing good in the long run for EVE.
You don't know what you're talking. There's an open tthread and hundreds of messages i spread around on what do i want for and expect from WiS, and there's also hundreds of likes i've gathered talking about it. Go ilustrate yourself.
The point here is that now they've released new content for avatar gameplay and have done it in a way that blew my last hopes about WiS. They've handed out the single biggest WiS expansion ever to pew-pewers who don't give a **** of it and instead people interested to get new clothing options have been handed a handful of leftovers.
It just looks safe to bet that whenever they release WiS, it will be exploration sites in nullsec and the only WiS available everywhere wlll be "griefing in stations" and "ganking on the corridor". Of course i may be wrong and maybe the devblog they should had published around May 29th will prove me wrong whenever hits the light, but I don't care.
In my opinion they are completely clueless and I am just tired of talking on this issue. We wanted more clothing options to put WiS to an use and instead we got spitted in the face much as with the original release of Incarna. Now my subscription expires in a couple days and that's never too soon. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
RAP ACTION HERO
116
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Posted - 2012.06.27 06:56:00 -
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lol indah quitting again. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
356
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Posted - 2012.06.27 12:44:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:lol indah quitting again.
Doh, I hadn't ignored you on this account. Fixed. What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
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RAP ACTION HERO
116
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:24:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:lol indah quitting again. Doh, I hadn't ignored you on this account. Fixed. heh hundreds of likes |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
602
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:44:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, that's fine, i guess... out of 31 female apparel items I had picked on Sisi, 2 of them made it into the NEx store, now the most glorified garage sale in New Eden. I guess that I will have to wait for Hans to get all those items i miss and buy them from him at a friend's price, right? Because, the other 100+ items have been seeded at FW LP stores, right? What is intriguing me most is how they do expect that people will buy AUR with RL cash to get any of the 13 (thirteen) new items. It's just like when they expected that people would spend 80 bucks on a monocle. "Coherence" is the name of the game i see here. Coherence to never get it right, I mean, giving clothes to people who doesn't gives a rat's ass of them (first the nullsec uberplayers, now the FW pewpewers) and essentially dismissing WiS people. Come on, CCP. Tell us it's a prank. Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... So "WiS people" by your apparent definition are only those that wish to buy Nex Store items, I disagree. For me I'd rather see WiS become an integral useful addition to EVE gameplay, rather than the window dressing sideshow it has become. It's sad that CCP decided to go the route of the NeX Store rather than following their previous visions for WiS as per Ambulation, all in the name of jumping on the microtransactions bandwagon instead of maintaining the integrity of EVE. The NeX Store creates nothing good in the long run for EVE. You don't know what you're talking. There's an open tthread and hundreds of messages i spread around on what do i want for and expect from WiS, and there's also hundreds of likes i've gathered talking about it. Go ilustrate yourself. The point here is that now they've released new content for avatar gameplay and have done it in a way that blew my last hopes about WiS. They've handed out the single biggest WiS expansion ever to pew-pewers who don't give a **** of it and instead people interested to get new clothing options have been handed a handful of leftovers. It just looks safe to bet that whenever they release WiS, it will be exploration sites in nullsec and the only WiS available everywhere wlll be "griefing in stations" and "ganking on the corridor". Of course i may be wrong and maybe the devblog they should had published around May 29th will prove me wrong whenever hits the light, but I don't care. In my opinion they are completely clueless and I am just tired of talking on this issue. We wanted more clothing options to put WiS to an use and instead we got spitted in the face much as with the original release of Incarna. Now my subscription expires in a couple days and that's never too soon.
Like i said before : if you don,t like the game as is ,you don,t like it when true ambulation is added. Saying that you will unsub about WIS doesn,t help,bc the most of us who want WIS do actually like the game.
About the blog :well CCP say more then what they actually do. The so called Team Avatar must feel pretty silly ,their first promise turns out to be a tinfoil hat already.
So i think there will more of those promises and irritation pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
358
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:17:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Well, that's fine, i guess... out of 31 female apparel items I had picked on Sisi, 2 of them made it into the NEx store, now the most glorified garage sale in New Eden. I guess that I will have to wait for Hans to get all those items i miss and buy them from him at a friend's price, right? Because, the other 100+ items have been seeded at FW LP stores, right? What is intriguing me most is how they do expect that people will buy AUR with RL cash to get any of the 13 (thirteen) new items. It's just like when they expected that people would spend 80 bucks on a monocle. "Coherence" is the name of the game i see here. Coherence to never get it right, I mean, giving clothes to people who doesn't gives a rat's ass of them (first the nullsec uberplayers, now the FW pewpewers) and essentially dismissing WiS people. Come on, CCP. Tell us it's a prank. Tell us this is why you have handed us 13 out of 100+ female apparel items and they don't even match each other... So "WiS people" by your apparent definition are only those that wish to buy Nex Store items, I disagree. For me I'd rather see WiS become an integral useful addition to EVE gameplay, rather than the window dressing sideshow it has become. It's sad that CCP decided to go the route of the NeX Store rather than following their previous visions for WiS as per Ambulation, all in the name of jumping on the microtransactions bandwagon instead of maintaining the integrity of EVE. The NeX Store creates nothing good in the long run for EVE. You don't know what you're talking. There's an open tthread and hundreds of messages i spread around on what do i want for and expect from WiS, and there's also hundreds of likes i've gathered talking about it. Go ilustrate yourself. The point here is that now they've released new content for avatar gameplay and have done it in a way that blew my last hopes about WiS. They've handed out the single biggest WiS expansion ever to pew-pewers who don't give a **** of it and instead people interested to get new clothing options have been handed a handful of leftovers. It just looks safe to bet that whenever they release WiS, it will be exploration sites in nullsec and the only WiS available everywhere wlll be "griefing in stations" and "ganking on the corridor". Of course i may be wrong and maybe the devblog they should had published around May 29th will prove me wrong whenever hits the light, but I don't care. In my opinion they are completely clueless and I am just tired of talking on this issue. We wanted more clothing options to put WiS to an use and instead we got spitted in the face much as with the original release of Incarna. Now my subscription expires in a couple days and that's never too soon. Like i said before : if you don,t like the game as is ,you don,t like it when true ambulation is added. Saying that you will unsub about WIS doesn,t help,bc the most of us who want WIS do actually like the game. About the blog :well CCP say more then what they actually do. The so called Team Avatar must feel pretty silly ,their first promise turns out to be a tinfoil hat already. So i think there will more of those promises and irritation
I know, i know, my pretense that WiS provides more gameplay in a way i can enjoy is at odds with CCP, EVE and everyfuckingbody else. Go figure, i ever dreamed of WiS allowing to interact with people without them having any chance to backstab you adn get away with it for free!
But, whatever. I've been waiting for more clothing options one year and now they are beyond my reach forever. Lesson learned, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I feel ashamed enough as to care about WiS any longer.
So... I already paid for Indah's Orca, I provided CCP with a new subscriber (bloody irony here, I succeeded to recruit a buddy and then CCP just backstabs me...), and will keep running some missions until this account expires. Then i will go play something I enjoy better, which may exist, or may not exist. What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Grimster
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2012.06.27 21:46:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:the two things that i wish they did for clothes is:
A: make them destructable
B: remove the clothes and replace them with BPC's...
i think that in eve everyting should be made by players... and stuff just comming from nothing kinda bothers me...
Greed is good though, don't forget that.
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Xavier Linx
Omni Research The Methodical Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:40:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Xavier Linx wrote:In the dark years between 2006 - 2011 we had the dubious joy of seeing Devs actively cheating and CCP abusing it's player base. I'm very sad to see this abuse start over again with the expansion of the microtransaction feature.
Sorry to say, but im just disgusted with CCP claiming a "null-cost" implementation. It's a lie. CCP has never been very good liars. Plese stop. Try some dignity for once. Tell us the truth: You Will Force This On The Player Base Regardless Of The Consequences. FiS is a thing of the past. As soon as Dust514 hit's the air active development of Eve FiS wil stop.
We know CCP can do some weird things or make promises they can,t hold up . But i think they are not that dumb to remove too much resources from the spacepart of this game they even hold back promised blogs to satisfy the only FIS players
I didn't say claiming there was such a thing as a 0-cost implementation was stupid. I called it a lie. Big difference.
Misunderstand me correctly: Had these changes been about self-expression I would have flown a pink Chimera with a Hello-Kitty logo, my drones would be custom made fur balls, and my SB would make the ship glow orange. Instead I get to spend time creating a portrait I rarely even look at.
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Bob Niac
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
19
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Posted - 2012.06.29 03:23:00 -
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*screams incoherently*
*holds sign up*
[Will Pay 4 Space Jeanz]
Seriously .. I think the community actually wouldn't mind buying aur. Just needs to be worth it. Like having simple clothes (jeans dammit) for a low price.
Also .. I want a fedora. And possibly an emoting avatar pic.. Okay well not an emoting avatar . .but better backgrounds? Tattoos that are meaningful, like a corp or alliance tat? I <3 Logistics: Pilot of all -áT2 logi and my shiny Archon [deceased.] Also a Chimera which may or may not be horrid. I don't make games, I play them. I get that ppl are passionate about change. I post here to plant seeds. You see your idea as is? Holy **** you win! So let's post, and see what the DEVs and our peers use. |
ReiAnn
Nova-Tek
17
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Posted - 2012.06.29 15:33:00 -
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Hats, please, and why was the red coat for women taken down from the nex.
Also, which faction has the red satin shirt? and does anyone want to trade two of them. please mail. |
Sunrise Aigele
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
0
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:46:00 -
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I love the new, rebooted store and the more reasonable prices, but there are colors other than white, black and red. Earth tones and gem tones look better on most people, not to mention that they introduce more more variety and opportunity to personalize your appearance.
Maybe the next rollout won't be so timid? |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
404
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Posted - 2012.07.13 15:49:00 -
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Xavier Linx wrote:Instead I get to spend time creating a portrait I rarely even look at.
You should make your portrait resemble yourself. That's what I did, and I can't stop looking at it.
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