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MrYogi Lee Thou shalt not kill 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 11:31:00 - [1] - Quote Hello Self-destruction, sometimes useful thing, but not during a fight! Needs to be changed to stop the paranoia that exists in EVE, where the fleet carriers or dreds, doing self-destruction and the KB is perhaps 1-2 ships, but in fact fell in 10 times as much. In most cases, when a small gang, attack carriers or dreads it ends in self-destruction, because in 2 minutes are not able to kill him. This spoils the statistics KB, but also causes doubt in the sense of the game among players. My proposals for changes: When the vessel is lock target, or in a bubble, it is not possible to attach self-destruction. If self-destruction was included earlier, in the meantime, the ship will be lock target or in a bubble, self-destruction turns off. Significantly improved by all the fun. Another option is when the ship will receive some DMG and it will activate the self-destruction is the killboard (auto api) CCP what you say? Regards M Ps. sorry for my English
Danfen Fenix Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance 96	Posted - 2012.06.16 11:35:00 - [2] - Quote Instead of blocking it due to lock etc, you may as well give the roll to one of the jammer modules. Then it's up to the fleet if they want to bring the ability to prevent it
TigerXtrm Cadre Assault Force Initiative Mercenaries 41	Posted - 2012.06.16 11:54:00 - [3] - Quote People actually use the self destruct feature so they don't appear on a killboard? That's kind of pathetic, really
Cpt Pugwash The Arrow Project CORE. 2	Posted - 2012.06.16 11:54:00 - [4] - Quote Self Desrtucting to prevent enemy getting loot or satisfaction of the kill etc is perfectly legitimate. Petition CCP to give you a killmail even when a ship self destructs if you care so much about it but don't ask for a perfectly legit game device to me removed because you cannot live without your precious killmail. Even Starfleet vessels have a self destruct mechanism and they are about as carebear as they come
ElQuirko Protus Correction Facility Inc. 728	Posted - 2012.06.16 11:55:00 - [5] - Quote Did you get loot? Did you get a wreck? Just screenshot the fight, save it and quit whining. CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1463	Posted - 2012.06.16 12:41:00 - [6] - Quote kill things faster The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Malacath Azaria xX-Crusader-Xx 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 12:57:00 - [7] - Quote Morganta wrote: kill things faster
Ituhata Saken Caldari Provisions Caldari State 284	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:04:00 - [8] - Quote Morganta wrote: kill things faster But! Quote: Thou shalt not kill You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
Ariel Dawn F9X 757	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:05:00 - [9] - Quote You care way, way too much about killboards is the issue, not self-destructing.
Nebula Terron Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing 29	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:07:00 - [10] - Quote Because of Killboard Eve Online Forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

Mr Epeen It's All About Me 1498	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:12:00 - [11] - Quote CCP does not have an official killboard for a reason. Because they know KBs are stupid. So, if all you desperate *****'s could stop asking them to change their game to support third party applications, that would be just grand. Thanks Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks
Pak Narhoo Knights of Kador 561	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:12:00 - [12] - Quote It's another form of PvP OP, stop whimpering you lost. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm...
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 462	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:14:00 - [13] - Quote Self destructing must be extremely satisfactory if it extracts such tears from the OP This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Klown Walk Fat People Lag IRL 94	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:16:00 - [14] - Quote Can-¦t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can-¦t self destruct.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1465	Posted - 2012.06.16 13:22:00 - [15] - Quote Klown Walk wrote: Can-¦t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can-¦t self destruct. or spend a few hours in a scrammed carrier while team B tries to round up enough DPS to finish you off The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1238	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:07:00 - [16] - Quote Morganta wrote: Klown Walk wrote: Can-¦t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can-¦t self destruct. or spend a few hours in a scrammed carrier while team B tries to round up enough DPS to finish you off I don't think anyone wants self destructs removed entirely, however two minute SDs for both rifters and wyverns makes little sense. SD timers should scale with ship size. The fact that fights don't happen because people just self destruct is kind of sad, plus it just encourages blobbing. I know quite a few people who have just hit self destruct instead of crying for help or trying to get people to save them. I mean its just a carrier, you can grind out the ISK for a replacement in under a day, there is no real reason not to self destruct. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Delen Ormand Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:24:00 - [17] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: People actually use the self destruct feature so they don't appear on a killboard? That's kind of pathetic, really Let's face it, there are a lot of people who act like assholes in this game, can't really blame someone for wanting to deny them a kill.
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 376	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:26:00 - [18] - Quote No I think CCP should improve self destruct and make it an actual tactic. Self destruct should do damage to ships around it like a smart bomb except a lot bigger depending on the ship size. I could care less if it is on a kill mail but if people want it I don't see any reason why not. But definitely make a self destruct an actual tactic if need be. EVERYBODY KNOWS
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 203	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:48:00 - [19] - Quote Remove KMs. This will solve your [personal] problem. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454
clamslayer Aliastra Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:52:00 - [20] - Quote Self destructing is a tactical choice and should not be removed or result in a kill mail. Being able to destroy your ship to deny your enemy loot, salvage, and killmail/intel is a valid tactic. the only change that i could understand is the length of timer based on the size of the ship. also, the message that all players on grid see when one initiates self destruct should be removed and damage should be dealt to any other ship near an explosion from self destruct or combat.

Private Pineapple Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 89	Posted - 2012.06.16 16:27:00 - [21] - Quote Morganta wrote: kill things faster Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886 Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 66	Posted - 2012.06.16 16:57:00 - [22] - Quote Self destructing to avoid lossmails is kinda sad, but its been around in eve a long time, just deal with it. Its also a very good excuse to blob people who do it and rub their faces in it.
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 587	Posted - 2012.06.16 17:20:00 - [23] - Quote The only thing self destruction effects is killboard wankery. The enemy ship still exploded, that's all that matters. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
baltec1 1452	Posted - 2012.06.16 18:03:00 - [24] - Quote It still died
Pink Marshmellow Caucasian Culture Club Transmission Lost 29	Posted - 2012.06.16 19:49:00 - [25] - Quote The only real issue of self-destruct is that you receive insurance from it. Remove insurance payment for self-destruct. That's the same as me blowing up my own car on purpose and receiving money for it.
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 141	Posted - 2012.06.16 20:06:00 - [26] - Quote I just wish the self destruct button and eject button weren't so close to actually useful things like "ship name" and stuff. I've accidently hit them both more than once trying to do actual useful things. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships!
Marconus Orion Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 58	Posted - 2012.06.16 20:08:00 - [27] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: CCP does not have an official killboard for a reason. Because they know KBs are stupid. So, if all you desperate *****'s could stop asking them to change their game to support third party applications, that would be just grand. Thanks Mr Epeen http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=new-forum-rules-on-tuesday-july-12 As you can see per the new rules, personal attacks like what you just said above are no longer allowed. Please be nice to each other. Or they will ban you.
Apolyon I AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 81	Posted - 2012.06.16 20:13:00 - [28] - Quote Cpt Pugwash wrote: Self Desrtucting to prevent enemy getting loot or satisfaction of the kill etc is perfectly legitimate. Petition CCP to give you a killmail even when a ship self destructs if you care so much about it but don't ask for a perfectly legit game device to me removed because you cannot live without your precious killmail. Even Starfleet vessels have a self destruct mechanism and they are about as carebear as they come come from your **** alliance, no wonder
Possum's Awesome Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo 33	Posted - 2012.06.16 20:43:00 - [29] - Quote Change: Still destroys modules, but gives KM. The same people making comments about self destruct being a "legitimate tactic" and those saying "only KM whores care" are ignoring the fact that people who are raging hard enough to self destruct only do so to deny a KM to others. Just fraps it, ship scan it, post a 'fake' KM with links to proof that the pilot was a whiney skunt. Possum's Awesome : Awesome Possum Unjustly accused and condemned for his crimes.
Marconus Orion Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 58	Posted - 2012.06.16 21:04:00 - [30] - Quote Apolyon I wrote: come from your **** alliance, no wonder Again, please note: http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=new-forum-rules-on-tuesday-july-12 No personal attacks. Be nice.



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