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Melthariumin Gallente Tactical Reconnaissance	Posted - 2009.12.04 10:52:00 - [31] Edited by: Melthariumin on 04/12/2009 10:55:39 Well , it's a huge pile of content for the sole purpose of actually being able to see your character. To justify this the dev's have to come up with slightly more then just the "walking around" stuff. I'm fine with being a spaceship in game.Only few things in EVE are likely to pull me out of my capsule (gatecamps aside ) so if they want to make me walk around in stations there has to be something to shoot at inside. Oh and, dear CCP : I love to have pointed ears on all Intaki characters and can you make them live in trees?(spacetrees that would be)
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion.	Posted - 2009.12.04 11:18:00 - [32] Edited by: Winters Chill on 04/12/2009 11:19:42 Summery Of WIS Dev Cycle:- Devs: We have an idea! Gais! You'll get to walk about and stuff we know you've been asking for this for a long time, so we did it! Players: Sweet! What else? Devs: You'll be able to dress up your dolls, I mean avatars, in rare clothes and build bars and stuff. This you'll get from loot drops (i.e: true sansha leather pants ). Players: Neat! What else? Devs: Else? Can't you see how awesome this technology is? There is 100 years of man hours in this! You'll be able to strut and stuff, be all social like! sigh Use your imagination. Players: Yeah...And? Wheres "the Game" you realize of course, while is very nice and we appreciate it, we don't really care about your fricken graphics technology we want gameplay since this is after all a game. Incase you hadn't noticed. Devs: Game... Um... Gameplay... Um... Yeah... Introducing INCARNA!!!!! taaa daaa! jazz hands Players: facepalm Only slightly worse.
General Esylium	Posted - 2009.12.04 11:28:00 - [33] Guys, One thing you never seem to understand about developing game, it ALWAYS takes more time than first estimated, AND, things NEVER go according to plan! the reason eve's features are incomplete all the time is because the players are rushing ccp to deliver new content -and ccp rush them self as well. if the above alone is not enough then take this: Incarna is going to use a very new technology of lightning, never used before, it requires very high computing power, and an awful lot of time to develop for mass consumers! so if you want incarna or any expansion faster, go to a university of gaming design, work at some other company for 5 years, and then apply to ccp and work on the expansions, otherwise either kindly ask for updates or stfu. the most successful company in the world -yeah that of the other game- never pushes a product before it's ready and perfected, that's why all their games were mega successes - despite the fact that you don't like them.
Vadimik Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.04 11:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Winters Chill ... Players: Yeah...And? Wheres "the Game" you realize of course, while is very nice and we appreciate it, we don't really care about your fricken graphics technology we want gameplay since this is after all a game. Incase you hadn't noticed. ... Says the trigger-happy part of playerbase. Lucky, there are others that actually want ambulation to be just that - walking in stations, roleplaying. Because roleplaying is the natural antidote to metagaming, and metagaming is exactly what, among other things, insures that PvP is generally a blob or be blobed lamefest.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.12.04 11:34:00 - [35] Originally by: JSC Originally by: Jack Airron CCP have already stated it will be after there next expansion I bet we won't see WIS in 2010. Can someone tell me the odd's I'd get on such a bet? I'm thinking my return might be pitiful. I'll bet you a T2 cruiser (of the winners choice) that we see Ambulation on SiSi by downtime Dec 31st 2010.
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2009.12.04 12:07:00 - [36] They brought in a fresh batch of devs from the cancelled Duke Nukem Forever project. With the help from these new team members Incarna is estimated to be ready soon.
MissyDark	Posted - 2009.12.04 13:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Vadimik Originally by: Winters Chill ... Players: Yeah...And? Wheres "the Game" you realize of course, while is very nice and we appreciate it, we don't really care about your fricken graphics technology we want gameplay since this is after all a game. Incase you hadn't noticed. ... Says the trigger-happy part of playerbase. Lucky, there are others that actually want ambulation to be just that - walking in stations, roleplaying. Yes I'm sure the roleplaying is important for both of you. Originally by: Vadimik Because roleplaying is the natural antidote to metagaming, and metagaming is exactly what, among other things, insures that PvP is generally a blob or be blobed lamefest. Sounds like a typical response of someone who never PvP'd in eve. It deffinately isn't about the numbers. Enjoy your mining.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2009.12.04 13:20:00 - [38] Wow, I've been gone a whole year and people are still asking when ambulation is coming, lol!!! Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.12.04 13:54:00 - [39] Originally by: MsValentineWiggin Originally by: Industry I bet you want animated emotes too, Second Life warrior. Trust me, emotes are not what Second Life players want to animate. LOL. Yeah, if the Second Life people want that they should download redlight center ;)
Octoven	Posted - 2009.12.04 15:44:00 - [40] Edited by: Octoven on 04/12/2009 15:44:38 I like WIS if your at war and your enemy wants to dock up to keep from getting killed, just get out of your ship walk over yank his ass out and kill him in station.

Genya Arikaido	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:32:00 - [41] IncarnaÖ is coming sooner than you can imagine.
Zephite Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:37:00 - [42] Originally by: Genya Arikaido IncarnaÖ is coming sooner than you can imagine. I can imagine it coming tomorrow. ------------------------------- No goats. I'm serious.
Rpeg Minmatar Rosa Castellum	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Maxamus Leporidae Can anyone say Vaporware? It hasn't even been that long since they brought up the idea. Be patient. -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:50:00 - [44] I hope they cancel it. But I suspect it will have tie ins to Dust. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Sgt Napalm SiN. Corp Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:54:00 - [45] Originally by: Le Skunk How boring must a game be if one of its selling points are you can open up a browser window and play another game whilst in the game SKUNK So sexy TTYL, Sarge
Monty Burns Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:58:00 - [46] Originally by: General Esylium Guys, One thing you never seem to understand about developing game, it ALWAYS takes more time than first estimated, AND, things NEVER go according to plan!... So true, im still waiting for the planetary flight i saw at the first ever fanfest.... how many years ago was that? (was cool seeing that condor flying over a planets surface ... and it wasn't pre-recorded!) Darwin 4tw
LordSwift Caldari SWG-RoNaN-BloOdFiN	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:59:00 - [47] I played it at fanfest and i loved it i tried it several times. Ok it crashed a lot since it was very pre alpha stage but it was so good to get out your ship. Whine all you want you dont have to use it at all if you dont want to
Doomed Predator Red Federation	Posted - 2009.12.04 17:04:00 - [48] Incarna should be low to medium priority. Higher priority is: -ship type balance -weapon system balance -more T3 -more WHs and different races(there are 3 more besides the sleepers) -more 0.0 -booster overhaul -heat improvement -low sec boost The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Callista Sincera Amarr	Posted - 2009.12.04 17:20:00 - [49] Originally by: Doomed Predator Incarna should be low to medium priority. Higher priority is: -ship type balance -weapon system balance -more T3 -more WHs and different races(there are 3 more besides the sleepers) -more 0.0 -booster overhaul -heat improvement -low sec boost Strange. I couldn't care any less about those things. In any case, I don't think that the people who could address those issues would be the same people who could bring us Incarna. Incarna is probably mostly programmer work at the moment, whereas your list would probably mostly require gamedesigners.
LordSwift Caldari SWG-RoNaN-BloOdFiN	Posted - 2009.12.04 18:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Doomed Predator Incarna should be low to medium priority. Higher priority is: -ship type balance -weapon system balance -more T3 -more WHs and different races(there are 3 more besides the sleepers) -more 0.0 -booster overhaul -heat improvement -low sec boost Haha yeah how many times do the devs or the players have to repeat what they have been told. Their is a totally seperate team working on incarna. Anyway we dont need more WH's or different races. Well depends on what you mean by races. Definately not playable thats for sure since it dont matter any way. If you mean race of ships then no thanks. More 0.0 is laughable, plenty of it at the moment. Just needs claiming.

Jack Airron Gallente Setenta Corp F A I L	Posted - 2009.12.04 18:03:00 - [51] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Jack Airron Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Jack Airron CCP have already stated it will be after there next expansion CCP have stated a lot of things about Ambulational Walking in Incarna. but they have never given a release date. at fan fest they said Incarna would come after planetary development so im guessing by this time next year we will be walking in stations. They've given the impression it would be released at different times before, only to hear later it was pushed back. That's happened at least twice, so i wouldn't hold your breath for 2010. 500mill says it will be out by the end of 2010.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.04 18:23:00 - [52] Originally by: Doomed Predator Incarna should be low to medium priority. Higher priority is: -ship type balance -weapon system balance -more T3 -more WHs and different races(there are 3 more besides the sleepers) -more 0.0 -booster overhaul -heat improvement -low sec boost I have my suspicions that at least one of those points will be strongly affected by Incarna (Low Sec Boost). ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Alaura Aquila Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.04 18:31:00 - [53] Edited by: Alaura Aquila on 04/12/2009 18:36:04 Originally by: Le Skunk How boring must a game be if one of its selling points are you can open up a browser window and play another game whilst in the game SKUNK I did that in the old "Day of the Tentacle" game, when I got to play Maniac Mansion via an old Commodore 64 in one of the rooms in the game. It was awesome I might add.
B1FF	Posted - 2009.12.04 19:17:00 - [54] We won't see ambulation until there is a point to it. If you read up on the released design information there is no point to ambulation. It simply won't be used by any significant portion of the palyer base. Including the zealots. There will be a short tourist season when it's new and then people will stop using it. Why? It's completely broken. Let's look at a few of the suggested uses: Social: Currently I can talk to anyone anywhere while doing anything. With ambulation you both have to stop what you are doing, travel to the same station, and dock up. Make note of the people you regularly talk to. How many are docked up at the same station as you? Games: Poker would be awsome. Why should we have to stop playing EvE to play poker? Why not let miners play poker? Wouldn't that be better for the in game poker scene as a whole. What about haulers? Gate campers? Mission runners? Why exclude all these people from playing poker? Poker is neat but would you stop playing EvE so you can play poker in EvE? At best it will be used for tourney's only. Write on Map: So we all dock up to look at the map then get station camped. Ok assuming that doesn't happen. You look at the map. You plan the battle. Then you have to remember everything because you have to leave ambulation?! The map room idea is useless unless you can take the map with you. At that point it's not an ambulation feature. Every ambulation feature, except playing dress up, would benefit from being usable outside ambulation. So stop wasting time with a 3D chat program and implement said features. tl:dr Currently I can socialize anywhere, anytime, with anyone. With ambulation we'd both have to travel to the same station and stop playing EvE to socialize.
AlleyKat The Unwanted.	Posted - 2009.12.04 19:21:00 - [55] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Seth Ruin DUST 514, however, is built using a separate engine (I want to say a licensed Unreal engine, but I'm not entirely sure if that's correct). That would be correct. So, yet another CCP product that does not have Anti-Aliasing... AK EVE-ONLINE VIDEO-MAKING TUTORIALS
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.04 20:12:00 - [56] Originally by: B1FF We won't see ambulation until there is a point to it. If you read up on the released design information there is no point to ambulation. It simply won't be used by any significant portion of the palyer base. Including the zealots. There will be a short tourist season when it's new and then people will stop using it. Why? It's completely broken. Let's look at a few of the suggested uses: Social: Currently I can talk to anyone anywhere while doing anything. With ambulation you both have to stop what you are doing, travel to the same station, and dock up. Make note of the people you regularly talk to. How many are docked up at the same station as you? Games: Poker would be awsome. Why should we have to stop playing EvE to play poker? Why not let miners play poker? Wouldn't that be better for the in game poker scene as a whole. What about haulers? Gate campers? Mission runners? Why exclude all these people from playing poker? Poker is neat but would you stop playing EvE so you can play poker in EvE? At best it will be used for tourney's only. Write on Map: So we all dock up to look at the map then get station camped. Ok assuming that doesn't happen. You look at the map. You plan the battle. Then you have to remember everything because you have to leave ambulation?! The map room idea is useless unless you can take the map with you. At that point it's not an ambulation feature. Every ambulation feature, except playing dress up, would benefit from being usable outside ambulation. So stop wasting time with a 3D chat program and implement said features. tl:dr Currently I can socialize anywhere, anytime, with anyone. With ambulation we'd both have to travel to the same station and stop playing EvE to socialize. Your information is a bit dated... and it's called Incarna now. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
P00P	Posted - 2009.12.04 21:26:00 - [57] Walking in stations? It was done before by EA and promptly trashed. It was called Earth and Beyond. A better idea would be to get flash to work in the browser so that you can play slots, poker, Bejeweled Blitz and neked animal videos in-game. That saves a lot of development time. 4.Profit!!
B1FF	Posted - 2009.12.04 22:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Ranger 1 Your information is a bit dated... and it's called Incarna now. Incarna Fan Fest sneak peak According to the tiny bit of information released at Fan Fest they are going in a much different direction with this than what was has been previously surmised. So now it's got at least it's third name. What does that change? Nothing but the name. Everything I've posted has been stated by a CCP employee on this web site. If you have specific counters please make them.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.04 22:57:00 - [59] Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Ranger 1 Your information is a bit dated... and it's called Incarna now. Incarna Fan Fest sneak peak According to the tiny bit of information released at Fan Fest they are going in a much different direction with this than what was has been previously surmised. So now it's got at least it's third name. What does that change? Nothing but the name. Everything I've posted has been stated by a CCP employee on this web site. If you have specific counters please make them. The update you seek is contained in the YouTube footage of FanFest. It was not lengthy, but merely stated that they have decided to take things in to a much higher level with Incarna than has previously been released (on these forums). The goal will be to give a reason to leaving your ship, an area of (shady) game play not available to those who stay safely enclosed in their pod. Not essential to playing EVE of course, just another avenue to explore like Planetary Interaction or Dust (not the same thing by the way). Watch the clip again with these things in mind. This is relatively old news, if you wish to evaluate it for yourself you'll have to peruse the Fan Fest footage on your own... unless someone has a handy link and approx time on the vid they can pop in here for you. I "think" it was in the keynote speech, but I could be mistaken and it may have been in one of the round tables. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Kronossan Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.04 22:59:00 - [60] Originally by: B1FF So now it's got at least it's third name. What does that change? Nothing but the name. Everything I've posted has been stated by a CCP employee on this web site. If you have specific counters please make them. Perhaps you could watch the other fanfest 2009 videos, there is some new information on Incarna there. CCP explains they want (if I understand correctly) make it more like a branch of the game like for example mining, or serious pvp whatever that may be. My guess is this would be to make it more engaging and give people a reason to actually get out and walk about stations after the first week after Incarna's release. _________________



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