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Dretzle Omega Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.12.15 20:04:00 - [61] Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 15/12/2009 20:04:31 And now to await Davramm's third attempt... Or is it General Newbold, which would make this his third attempt?
cosmoray Bella Vista Holdings Corp	Posted - 2009.12.15 20:15:00 - [62] Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir After much debate and deliberation, the Collective and I have decided that we will be retracting this public offering. The Reasons: We cannot currently offer the kind of transparency and oversight that individuals like cosmoray and Kwint are clearly seeking. What we will be doing is re-organizing and getting ourselves into a proper position to re-offer this with the ability to audit and for the EVE Public to know that there is oversight. On this attempt at a public offering, we didn't realize that there would be such hostility and concern over the nature of this fund. Most of us do not follow the daily goings on in the Market Discussions and thus were unaware of how hard the EBANK scandal had hit. Obviously, we had seen the news, but, didn't think that it was as bad as it seems to be. We will continue to accept private investment, but will not post the details of that here. If you are interested, you can contact me ingame or through the email address provided on the website. Please watch for us in the future. We do intend to return with a better organized offering. And we will be contacting cosmoray in advance of our return and have him arrange a full audit. A side note: We understand how this retraction will appear to many. We will likely be labeled as fakes or scammers. Simply put, we are okay with this at this time. We know the validity of our fund and we know where we stand. No hostility from the Market Discussions group will change any of that. So, thank you for your time, I'm sorry that this didn't pan out for those of you who were truly interested. We will be back when we can offer more transparency. Nice try, but I am calling you out here. This is a complete SCAM and was evident from our extensive conversation. Convo Summary: 1. Latesh main is responsible for all pooled ISK and runs the ventures. 2. The main holds NO shares in organisations or alliances. No assets either 3. the main has out of game contacts with these parties. 4. The alliances and corps pay Latesh's main dividends each month in the amount of 30-70B ISK. 5. The main would distribute 75% of this pot to the investors and re-invest 25% After dragging the process out of Latesh, I asked to audit the main character to see the 30-70B coming in each month. Wouldn't do it. I offered to pay for Chribba to audit the main to prove the money is paid each month. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't trust Chribba. I called it a SCAM, then Latesh asked for 48 hrs to consult investors! It was/is a SCAM, you got called on it and can't back away from it. Full Convo in it's glory
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2009.12.15 20:16:00 - [63] I'm glad people have gotten wiser to this garbage. I believe that every successful scam leads to a multiple of further attempts. When MD is full of obnoxious scam attempts, it becomes hostile, and genuine offers are thrown out with the bad. The community has developed a surprisingly good system for giving people with an idea and/or some chutzpah the opportunity to make everyone money. When we relax our standards through laziness or greed, we weaken the system, as well as making MD a generally less pleasant community to partake of. /soapbox ...yes, i'm drunk. It's my day off.
Vahdrok Nyrus OX Syndicate Shipyards	Posted - 2009.12.15 21:14:00 - [64] Edited by: Vahdrok Nyrus on 15/12/2009 21:19:38 Originally by: cosmoray snip I see that names have been changeed to protect the innocent. Anyways, they need a month or two to make it look legit to an audit since they probably only have had a weeks worth into this (via webpage updates) and probably only have a weeks worth of trading the same isk, if they even tried that. Be sure to post under a fresh character with some new management mumbo when you come back OP. EDIT: Oh and LOL@ not trusting Chribba and thinking he would blow his entire third party business to screw over this one player. Not even 1T can make him do that, come down off your horse OP. -----------------------------
Julius Rigel	Posted - 2009.12.15 21:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Vahdrok Nyrus EDIT EDIT: I still want to know how to go about having someone make me a webpage that looks like that! This is a joke right? I'm having a hard time tasting the sarcasm in this one. As for OP, a friendly bit of advice: Do the planning before you do the scamming. Just because you're trying to trick people instead of making money "legitimately" doesn't mean you shouldn't put a little effort into it.
Vahdrok Nyrus OX Syndicate Shipyards	Posted - 2009.12.15 21:58:00 - [66] Not a joke, that webpage is very nice. I realize I post alot of sarcasim but I honestly like the site and am wondering what it costs to get a webdeisgner to do something like that -----------------------------
Julius Rigel	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:39:00 - [67] Originally by: Vahdrok Nyrus Not a joke, that webpage is very nice. I realize I post alot of sarcasim but I honestly like the site and am wondering what it costs to get a webdeisgner to do something like that It's a widely used Joomla template. Joomla is a content management system, it basically unpacks onto your web server and does all the technical parts of setting up a website automatically, then you just have to download the template and tell Joomla to use that one instead of the default, and finally use the WYSIWYG text editor to type up whatever text you want posted. Not to sound like an advertisement or anything, but relevant to the point: It takes about 30 minutes to set up a CMS website, 20 of which is spent uploading the files to your FTP account. It really is a sign of spending as little effort as possible and getting the least unique website you possibly can.
Latesh Verrinoir Infinite Investments	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:52:00 - [68] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir After much debate and deliberation, the Collective and I have decided that we will be retracting this public offering. The Reasons: We cannot currently offer the kind of transparency and oversight that individuals like cosmoray and Kwint are clearly seeking. What we will be doing is re-organizing and getting ourselves into a proper position to re-offer this with the ability to audit and for the EVE Public to know that there is oversight. On this attempt at a public offering, we didn't realize that there would be such hostility and concern over the nature of this fund. Most of us do not follow the daily goings on in the Market Discussions and thus were unaware of how hard the EBANK scandal had hit. Obviously, we had seen the news, but, didn't think that it was as bad as it seems to be. We will continue to accept private investment, but will not post the details of that here. If you are interested, you can contact me ingame or through the email address provided on the website. Please watch for us in the future. We do intend to return with a better organized offering. And we will be contacting cosmoray in advance of our return and have him arrange a full audit. A side note: We understand how this retraction will appear to many. We will likely be labeled as fakes or scammers. Simply put, we are okay with this at this time. We know the validity of our fund and we know where we stand. No hostility from the Market Discussions group will change any of that. So, thank you for your time, I'm sorry that this didn't pan out for those of you who were truly interested. We will be back when we can offer more transparency. Nice try, but I am calling you out here. This is a complete SCAM and was evident from our extensive conversation. Convo Summary: 1. Latesh main is responsible for all pooled ISK and runs the ventures. 2. The main holds NO shares in organisations or alliances. No assets either 3. the main has out of game contacts with these parties. 4. The alliances and corps pay Latesh's main dividends each month in the amount of 30-70B ISK. 5. The main would distribute 75% of this pot to the investors and re-invest 25% After dragging the process out of Latesh, I asked to audit the main character to see the 30-70B coming in each month. Wouldn't do it. I offered to pay for Chribba to audit the main to prove the money is paid each month. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't trust Chribba. I called it a SCAM, then Latesh asked for 48 hrs to consult investors! It was/is a SCAM, you got called on it and can't back away from it. Full Convo in it's glory Were this reality, a lawsuit would be coming your way for liable and slander. You're lucky it's not reality. Were it reality, I would also have no problem with a company audit. In this case, it's unfortunate that this is not reality. Regardless of what you may believe, this is not a scam and is very real. However, I'm done discussing this here. ----------------------------------- Invest with Infinite Investments - http://www.eve-ii.com We'll turn your investment into profit!
Dagny Bronstein	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:05:00 - [69] First, you give cosmo explicit permission to call your proposal a scam ("it makes no difference to me") instead of him taking the time necessary for arriving at a more solid conclusion. Once he does so, you run to the forums complaining about slander. lol?
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:09:00 - [70] I've heard the UK is a great place to sue for libel. Free jumpclone service: Thread\|Shares available!
Andron Blaxcor	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:29:00 - [71] Wow, put your handbags away, please. If this is a legitimate enterprise, I'm sure they will be back with proof. If it isn't, we'll never hear from them again. If it is legitimate, it is unfortunate that it follows all the patterns a scam may follow. It just doesn't strictly follow that if it looks like this it must be a scam. A scam would look like this, but something that looks like this isn't necessarily a scam. To II, if you are legitimate, come back with something that distinguishes you from what a scam would look like. Then the enterprise begins to look interesting. On the balance of evidence, I believe it to be a scam personally, but am very willing to be proved wrong as the evidence is inconclusive thusfar.
Takemikazuki Celrydreahad Finance	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:35:00 - [72] Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir Were this reality, a lawsuit would be coming your way for liable and slander. You're lucky it's not reality. Were it reality, I would also have no problem with a company audit. In this case, it's unfortunate that this is not reality. lol @ lawsuit its a frickin game and you cant have a simple verification audit done? Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir Regardless of what you may believe, this is not a scam and is very real. However, I'm done discussing this here. You make wild claims, why should anyone believe you? Oh right. You are just that honest. I mean, you just want us to infuse our ISK into your untangible supersekret trillion-ISK investment club. Yeah, sounds good!
Hippopotamus Rex	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir So, thank you for your time, I'm sorry that this didn't pan out for those of you who were truly interested. We will be back when we can offer more transparency. OK, deal. You get back to me when you've had time to get your alts set, gather up enough isk and start moving it around to create the illusion of dividends going in and out. Not to be too nit-picky, but I'm not sure about the "more transparency" part. If you submitted to a full api audit now, it would show everything, but if you want to wait until some of your "sensitive" information is removed somehow, that shows less. You actually want to get back to us when you can offer less transparency. Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir The simple truth here is that we're just EVE Players who had a great idea a year ago. Great idea? Come on, don't be so modest. Try the greatest idea ever! You took isk and invested it into: Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir A Capital Ship Production Corporations Fund B Sub-Capital Ship Production Corporations Fund C High-sec Mining Corporations Fund D Low/Null/WHspace-sec Mining Corporations Fund E Moon Mining Corporations Fund F Courier Corporations Fund G T2 Item Productions Fund H BPO Productions Corporations Fund I Trading Corporations Fund J Mercenary Corporations Fund K Alliance Corporations Fund L Outposts Fund Investing in other players? Genius, pure genius. Who else would have thought of that? Perhaps someone should petition CCP to start a forum where players could discuss investments and the like, I mean, if this radical idea catches on.
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2009.12.15 23:48:00 - [74] Originally by: Hippopotamus Rex funny stuff My specific favorites: J Mercenary Corporations Fund K Alliance Corporations Fund L Outposts Fund I can't even put together a coherent, satisfactory insult, it's that ridiculous.
Kwint Sommer Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.12.16 00:14:00 - [75] Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir Originally by: cosmoray It was/is a SCAM, you got called on it and can't back away from it. Full Convo in it's glory Were this reality, a lawsuit would be coming your way for liable and slander. You're lucky it's not reality. Were it reality, I would also have no problem with a company audit. In this case, it's unfortunate that this is not reality. Regardless of what you may believe, this is not a scam and is very real. However, I'm done discussing this here. Now, now, calm down. I know you put a lot of hours into this but your scam fell through and there's nothing you can do. You just have to take it on the chin like a man. Once the cards are on the table and your bluff is plain to see continuing to posture and bluster just makes you look silly. Either walk away with the few shards of dignity your alt has left or shake hands and give credit where credit is due. This whining and insulting well after its over is just childish. You played a decent gambit but you lost. Acknowledge it and walk away.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.12.16 00:27:00 - [76] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 16/12/2009 00:36:10 Originally by: Kwint Sommer Now, now, calm down. I know you put a lot of hours into this but your scam fell through and there's nothing you can do. You just have to take it on the chin like a man. Once the cards are on the table and your bluff is plain to see continuing to posture and bluster just makes you look silly. Either walk away with the few shards of dignity your alt has left or shake hands and give credit where credit is due. This whining and insulting well after its over is just childish. You played a decent gambit but you lost. Acknowledge it and walk away. You wouldn't recognize a troll even if it hit you in the face. As for the OP, good one, Latifa, keep up the good work. One day you will join Ebank. Black Sun Empire
Bret Caliaro Fortuna inc. Leather Rose Syndicate	Posted - 2009.12.16 00:45:00 - [77] good job cosmoray, you dealt with this with alot more patience than I ever could. _________________________________________________ I'm a so very lazy, so I play smart not hard.
cosmoray Bella Vista Holdings Corp	Posted - 2009.12.16 01:45:00 - [78] Fun thing about libel and slander is that I made an accusation. To prove the slander you would have to show that I was not telling the truth, and you would still have to submit to an audit. Anytime this comes back in the future, I would want to see an audit of the money going to the main during June - December 2009. Anyway I have decided to spend some of my well gotten insurance fraud gains. 500M merc retainer has been placed with a KOS (not in wardec, including high sec gank) placed on the OP, matching upto 2B ISK in ship/mod loss done.
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:15:00 - [79] Originally by: cosmoray To prove the slander you would have to show that I was not telling the truth, and you would still have to submit to an audit. He could sue you in the UK; if your statement could be read in the UK (that includes any statement on the internet) a lawsuit can be started in the UK. Moreover, UK law says you'd have to prove you're right. There have been cases of US companies sueing US citizens in the UK for something they published in the US. (See the links I provided above.) Free jumpclone service: Thread\|Shares available!
Hoodat Bee	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:17:00 - [80] Edited by: Hoodat Bee on 16/12/2009 02:18:25 As a NB, it's impossible for anyone to be tried for both libel and slander in a purely written conversation, seeing as slander is defamation in spoken form. As an additional NB, in everywhere but Britain, the onus of proving defamation is on the aggrieved party, not the putative defamer. This should be easy for the OP, who need merely prove that his organization -- which apparently prefers to communicate solely in the pluralis majestatis -- is indeed a going concern. However, as the aggrieved party has already admitted that they, at the time of the putative defamation, intended to be perceived as a public party, they'd most likely be required to prove malicious intent. All that NBing aside, I am not competent to dispense legal advice in any part or territory of New Eden, nor should any of the above be construed or misconstrued as such.
Katiana Swan	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:23:00 - [81] Originally by: Hoodat Bee All that NBing aside, I am not competent to dispense legal advice in any part or territory of New Eden, nor should any of the above be construed or misconstrued as such. Usually it's those who work in the legal industry who place such disclaimers
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:28:00 - [82] Originally by: Katiana Swan Originally by: Hoodat Bee All that NBing aside, I am not competent to dispense legal advice in any part or territory of New Eden, nor should any of the above be construed or misconstrued as such. Usually it's those who work in the legal industry who place such disclaimers Are you implying that you think him an incompetent lawyer? Just come out and say it! á á
Katiana Swan	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:34:00 - [83] I am yet to actually see a competent lawyer. However that wasn't the point of my previous post, as you know
Julian Koll The Kollektive	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:57:00 - [84] you guys are aware that this is a game? next thing we'll talk about sueing people for blowing uo ships... anyways, this has been a very intersting thread.
Vitamin B12 Titan Industrial and Technology Systems	Posted - 2009.12.16 07:11:00 - [85] Edited by: Vitamin B12 on 16/12/2009 07:11:36 Originally by: Vahdrok Nyrus I'm less interested in this offer and more interested in how I go about gettind a shiny webpage like that for my business. I must know! 1. Download Jooomla 1.5 from joomla.org 1.1 If you dont have a webspace get one free at beplaced.net 2. Upload it on your webspace and install it 3. buy that shiny template http://pic.leech.it/images/573d5brtdimensio.jpg (or download it from warez sites ) 4. install the template 5. use your fail photoshop skills to make a paint quality logo 5.1 If you dont have photoshop pay a 16yo kid to do the pic stuff for you hf. ps: i like my shiny website for investment much more http://titan-empire.tk/
Julius Rigel	Posted - 2009.12.16 07:17:00 - [86] Originally by: Vitamin B12 ps: i like my shiny website for investment much more http://titan-empire.tk/ This thread is now about shamelessly parading our websites. Same as in my sig, I made it myself, mommy. By the way, I like your site, Vitamin!
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2009.12.16 07:59:00 - [87] Originally by: YouGotRipped P.S. Yup, it's definitely Ray. still waiting for the " Sadly, our refinancing scam fell through, so we regret having to inform you that EBANK won't reopen for an additional 3 years or so (you're an idiot if you can't see how that's in our customers' best interest). Please complain to cosmoray. yrstruly Ray " message.
Nouva MacGyver Caldari MacGyver Communications	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:44:00 - [88] The judge says to a double-homicide defendant, "You're charged with beating your wife to death with a hammer." A voice at the back of the courtroom yells out, "You b***d." The judge says, "You're also charged with beating your mother-in-law to death with a hammer." The voice in the back of the courtroom yells out, "You God-dd b*d." The judge stops, and says to the guy in the back of the courtroom, "Sir, I can understand your anger and frustration at this crime. But no more outbursts from you, or I'll charge you with contempt. Is that a problem?" The guy in the back of the court stands up and says, "For fifteen years, I've lived next door to that b***d, and every time I asked to borrow a hammer, he said he didn't have one."
Dretzle Omega Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:55:00 - [89] Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir Originally by: cosmoray It was/is a SCAM, you got called on it and can't back away from it. Full Convo in it's glory Were this reality, a lawsuit would be coming your way for liable and slander. You're lucky it's not reality. Were it reality, I would also have no problem with a company audit. In this case, it's unfortunate that this is not reality. Regardless of what you may believe, this is not a scam and is very real. However, I'm done discussing this here. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander Just thought I'd point out the irony here. OP says if reality, cosmo would be facing libel and/or slander lawsuit. However, by definition, it would have to not be true for libel and/or slander to be sued for, not reality. Meh. I guess that makes me grammar police or something.
Vahdrok Nyrus OX Syndicate Shipyards	Posted - 2009.12.16 15:37:00 - [90] Originally by: Vitamin B12 snip Thank you very much. I'll get to work on some pictures then. Also, this thread needs less chatter about failed scams and more people posting webpages. I need ideas people! Go go -----------------------------

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