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Gobbins Minmatar eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2009.12.17 12:37:00 - [211] amazing it only took 6 pages for GM to give in - on the other hand it is a pretty important issue considering the SBU precedent btw is there a list somewhere of all the dominion sov features that are actually woring as intended? - Gob
Vitae Amarr Legion of Lost Souls	Posted - 2009.12.17 12:53:00 - [212] Originally by: Lady Puket the irony of this thread is pure gold, like a leprechaun just took a **** on my keyboard More like a grizzly bear took a dump in your mouth considering what you're letting out..do everyone a favor and stop talking. No one thinks you're clever or funny..you're just flat out trolling, and you're not very good at it.
NeoTheo Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 12:56:00 - [213] Edited by: NeoTheo on 17/12/2009 12:56:55 Echoing the comms thing tbh. Whatever the issues and reasons; ccp's lack of upfront prompt communication is infuriating. Tell us whats going on and you'd likely avoid such a situation from disgruntled customers. GMs comming out on the forums in semi rant mode (when the fact is that communication is lacking) is pretty rich to be perfectly honest. However all that said, its great news that another (of the dozen or so) bugs in the newly implemented "sov system" is identifyed and hopefully fixed. I guess we can go back to having fun now? ;') /Theo imo.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.12.17 13:17:00 - [214] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 17/12/2009 13:20:59 Originally by: GM Nova Originally by: SirMolle So, after 4 days of petioning, and getting no results whatsoever.... NOW, 30 minutes afetr this post, the GM's finally was allowed to FIX the issue. Jebus CCP, sort yourselves. This should NOT be necessary, ever. Hi SirMolle People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. Let me get yours straight. First of all, GMs are allowed to intervene if deemed necessary and non game breaking. In this specific instance, we did not at first know what was the cause of the error and what the consequences would be to meddle with the structure ingame. When the structure went into shield reinforcement for the third time, we felt that was gamebreaking and intervened after consulting with the relevant developers. We did not do so because of this forum thread and there is no indication that your opponents were willfully and consistently exploiting a bug of this sort as you seem to suggest in your original post. We will continue to do our best to assist you in any way we can when issues of this nature crop up. Please understand that we need to exercise caution when dealing with structures of this type and we need to understand the nature of the problems at hand. Finally, thank you all for your dedication to EVE and your part in making our world rich and interesting. Yours, GM Nova Senior Game Master EVE Online Customer Support Assuming that what SirMolle said in his OP is true and he did petition this for 3d, and all that he got was 'it's not exploiting' one can hardly blame him for starting this thread. Perhaps in the future you should get some competent GM's that actually play the game - this coming from someone who petitioned twice in the last 2 weeks only having to teach the GM in question game mechanics, and improve your communication skills. When one needs to make a CAOD thread to bring it to the attention of the powers to be, then there is something terribly wrong with them powers. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market !
Ian Logalus Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.17 13:43:00 - [215] Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 17/12/2009 13:20:59 Originally by: GM Nova Originally by: SirMolle So, after 4 days of petioning, and getting no results whatsoever.... NOW, 30 minutes afetr this post, the GM's finally was allowed to FIX the issue. Jebus CCP, sort yourselves. This should NOT be necessary, ever. Hi SirMolle People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. Let me get yours straight. First of all, GMs are allowed to intervene if deemed necessary and non game breaking. In this specific instance, we did not at first know what was the cause of the error and what the consequences would be to meddle with the structure ingame. When the structure went into shield reinforcement for the third time, we felt that was gamebreaking and intervened after consulting with the relevant developers. We did not do so because of this forum thread and there is no indication that your opponents were willfully and consistently exploiting a bug of this sort as you seem to suggest in your original post. We will continue to do our best to assist you in any way we can when issues of this nature crop up. Please understand that we need to exercise caution when dealing with structures of this type and we need to understand the nature of the problems at hand. Finally, thank you all for your dedication to EVE and your part in making our world rich and interesting. Yours, GM Nova Senior Game Master EVE Online Customer Support Assuming that what SirMolle said in his OP is true and he did petition this for 3d, and all that he got was 'it's not exploiting' one can hardly blame him for starting this thread. Perhaps in the future you should get some competent GM's that actually play the game - this coming from someone who petitioned twice in the last 2 weeks only having to teach the GM in question game mechanics, and improve your communication skills. When one needs to make a CAOD thread to bring it to the attention of the powers to be, then there is something terribly wrong with them powers. DOn't worry it's not the GM's not playing the game. it's just the devs... you know the guys who develop the game for our pleasure without playing it themselfs /nod to Nozh
TimMc Gallente Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.12.17 14:18:00 - [216] I fail to see how, intentional or not, this is something the GMs should not be dealing with. The game is broken if you cannot take down the ihubs. Dominion is pretty fail so far.
THEDON1 Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 15:33:00 - [217] Originally by: xGradiusx lol u cant take our space lol why u moving all your assets out of fountain then?
Isonone Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.12.17 15:50:00 - [218] Who's moving what?! Am I the only one that hasn't moved his stuff out...? Always last one to find out...anyway I will take my chances and will NOT move my stuff...
Elektrea Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.17 16:04:00 - [219] Originally by: Vitae Originally by: Lady Puket the irony of this thread is pure gold, like a leprechaun just took a **** on my keyboard More like a grizzly bear took a dump in your mouth considering what you're letting out..do everyone a favor and stop talking. No one thinks you're clever or funny..you're just flat out trolling, and you're not very good at it. ----------
Yakuri Hirotami Amarr Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 16:16:00 - [220] Originally by: Isonone Who's moving what?! Am I the only one that hasn't moved his stuff out...? Always last one to find out...anyway I will take my chances and will NOT move my stuff... Then u shall lose all your stuff :)

Psycho Lordling Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.17 16:22:00 - [221] Edited by: Psycho Lordling on 17/12/2009 16:25:48 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Thus, the facts are that it takes 4 days for a GM to respond to a petition and 30 minutes for a GM to respond to a threadnaught. We now all know that the petition system can be sacked and that CCP should hire more forum staff. This is not true. Motherships are still broken. And that was a GIANT threadnaught. Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Funnily enough, when the PL SBUs were bugged, you intervened straight off (within minutes), something which might actually be less game breaking than this.. I guess you went from MSN devs to Jabber devs. :) Jabber is for all the cool people. Originally by: GM Nova Hi SirMolle Our logs shows nothing Lurk more Yours, GM Nova Senior Game Master EVE Online Customer Support
Sovarin Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 19:12:00 - [222] Originally by: Isonone Who's moving what?! Am I the only one that hasn't moved his stuff out...? Always last one to find out...anyway I will take my chances and will NOT move my stuff... I think you are, apart from all the SoT members still ratting away 3 jumps away from where all the fighting is. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Grarr Wrexx Amarr Heron Industries	Posted - 2009.12.17 19:57:00 - [223] PL whining about SBUs gets an answer within thirty minutes but a completely gamebreaking feature that doesn't allow a player to actually ADVANCE in his attack takes four days and mass petitioning? Loving sploons in this thread by the way. Hey Iso, wasn't it your director who blew up his member's titan on false suspicion of betrayal?
Isonone Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:04:00 - [224] Originally by: Grarr Wrexx PL whining about SBUs gets an answer within thirty minutes but a completely gamebreaking feature that doesn't allow a player to actually ADVANCE in his attack takes four days and mass petitioning? Loving sploons in this thread by the way. Hey Iso, wasn't it your director who blew up his member's titan on false suspicion of betrayal? And the SBU exploit is not gamebreaking feature, that doesn't allow a player to actualy ADVANCE in his atack? You are dumb aren't you?
Hoshino Minmatar StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:32:00 - [225] Give Hurley a new titan SPLOT Best goon is a dead goon.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:34:00 - [226] Originally by: Isonone Who's moving what?! Am I the only one that hasn't moved his stuff out...? Always last one to find out...anyway I will take my chances and will NOT move my stuff... Quite right too, you'd only get Hurleyed. Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
Schani Kratnorr Amarr x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:39:00 - [227] Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 17/12/2009 20:40:47 It looks like this thread has "run its course." The main issue is how game breaking code implemented in the first place. This issue is a priority since it affects all players. Accusations 'n stuff Of lesser importance is the question on GM bias. A far more likely explenation is that those with insight are organisationally cut off from those who answer service calls. This is a common bi-product of letting 'tarded suit-type people in your company. Also. Posts about past transgressions and implied related accusations of continued cheating belong in petitions. If you think someone is breaking the rules, then petition them. Sadly CCP modertation appears lax on this point, but we can all help by using the 'report' feature. CCP could learn from this It is in the interest of CCP to listen to everyone. Listen to those fighting up north when they ask about the post-dominion performance issues. Listen to testers who point out how they found and reported the "invuln bug" weeks before release. Listen to those fighting in fountain. Both sides have had problems and reported them. Draw a lesson or two from the entire Dominion deployment failure. You had a good run. No major patch-problems since, well, since around 2005-2006 I think. This time around you ran into new problems and forgot how to avoid the old. They conspired to create a new set of problems for your game. Rant We are now 17 days into release and a few days away from holidays. If the basic sov. stuffs are not working by then, it could completely break EvE and drive people into the hands of blizzard - and no one wants or needs more WoW-gamers in the world... Sorry for being long-winded, but it is in my nature. (campaign for real truth. Speaking for myself. This is my main.)
Isonone Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:59:00 - [228] Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 17/12/2009 20:40:47 True stuff Despite the fact that he is "-" to me, I totaly agree with him.
Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 21:02:00 - [229] Originally by: Grarr Wrexx PL whining about SBUs gets an answer within thirty minutes but a completely gamebreaking feature that doesn't allow a player to actually ADVANCE in his attack takes four days and mass petitioning? Loving sploons in this thread by the way. Hey Iso, wasn't it your director who blew up his member's titan on false suspicion of betrayal? Well, tbh PLGoons posted a thread on forums about the SBUs even before the sent in the petition. They know that's the only way to get something done. They then get an immediate response from their US TZ Goon GM right away. On the other hand, sending a petition to CCP and waiting for them to respond is like asking a blind ****** to perform brain surgery. The truth will set you free
JABBIE Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.12.17 21:29:00 - [230] Originally by: GM Nova Originally by: SirMolle So, after 4 days of petioning, and getting no results whatsoever.... NOW, 30 minutes afetr this post, the GM's finally was allowed to FIX the issue. People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. Let me get yours straight. When the structure went into shield reinforcement for the third time, we felt that was gamebreaking and intervened after consulting with the relevant developers. Finally, thank you all for your dedication to EVE and your part in making our world rich and interesting. Yours, GM Nova Senior Game Master EVE Online Customer Support Good example of "EXCELLENCE" and demonstrating the value of H.T.F.U. after this thread hit the boards. We can be fairly sure that the Dust Devs/GMs in China had nothing to do with implementing this unwanted "feature" so.... While you scramble in Iceland to fix it, could you please send the Dust dev chicks over to the TNT teamspeak server so that we can discuss implementing "Excellence" and um...hit on them. We tried to file a petition request in this regard but were unable to find a "Game Needs Moar Chicks" drop down. :( Thanks for your consideration. Jabbie Director of H.T.F.U. Excellence Alcatraz Inc

Etien Aldragoran Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.17 21:32:00 - [231] You call this a threadreadnought? This is a mediocre rant tops.
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2009.12.17 22:31:00 - [232] Originally by: GM Nova We will continue to do our best to assist you in any way we can when issues of this nature crop up. You've got some SirMolle-brown on your nose.

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 23:39:00 - [233] Thread locked. Conversation has run its course and is going off topic. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us



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