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Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.08 17:18:00 - [151] Edited by: Zedrik Cayne on 08/01/2010 17:19:45 Actualy..I'd never thought about having Steve Irwin do a guest shot...but now that you mention it... NOTE: This is NOT a real chat log...NOT A REAL CHAT LOG...THIS IS ALL MADE UP IN THE MIND OF ZED! Opening Credits.... <Zedrik Cayne> Today on the Joe Hunter Show(tm). We have a guest Joe Hunter...Steve Irwin! <Steve Irwin> Right...today on the Joe Hunter Show.. We will be going after the man himself...Joe Phoenix. <Steve Irwin> Today he has been spotted in the wilds of Providence, a place haunted by a plethora of 'Carebear Oblivious' who with their strange 'NRDS' rituals and ignorance of CONCORD sanctioned war declarations, will make taking the man down difficult without outside interferance from 'Carebear White Knightus' who are unaware of Joe's many crimes vs. the Standards and Practices as published by the IEEE. So bagging our target will have to be quick and brutal. <Steve Irwin> But the rules of Providence work both ways, so getting to where Joe Phoenix is should be relatively easy. Getting out might be another matter. Time passes...Steve Irwin in his garishly camoflaged cheetah flanked by a bunch of dps skulking through through providence. <Steve Irwin> See those haulers passing by...plenty of examples of 'Carebear Oblivious'. Fortunately the bears the pirates, or as locally known 'raiders' seem to be participating in a once a year action known as 'Hulkageddon'. So they are relatively safe in their wanderings. We have word that Joe Phoenix has been sighted in the next system going from belt to belt killing the local sansha rats. <Steve Irwin> Now, we are very familiar with Joe Phoenix, so we have packed into our mid slots plenty of warp disruptors, a total of six for me, just in case he is practicing his typical warp core stabilizing low rack in his Drake. The report is that there are also a plethora of 'Carebear Oblivious' and 'Carebear White Knightus' in system, so we will have to be swift in our apprehension of our target. Whole gang jumps in...cinematic footage of the cheetah warping to the belt, and in typical style Steve Irwin style he comes out from cover and tackles his target. The rest of the gang warps in and proceeds to beat the ever loving snot out of Joe's badly fit Drake. In local: <Joe Phoenix> Raiders! I'm under attack! Planet 3 belt 4. <Joe Phoenix> Planet 3 belt 5. Help! Back in the Joe Hunter Show(tm) Channel: <Steve Irwin> Right, lets look at the wreck..as we suspected, FoF missles and four warp core stabilizers. Fortunately we prepared for this properly given our prey. I'm not sure how one actually rats this way. And look here! A special treat as we managed to bag Joe Phoenix's corpse as well. Now its time to get out of here before 'Carebear White Knightus' actually gets organized. <Steve Irwin> Thank you for joining us on this special edition of the Joe Hunter Show(tm). Roll End Credits. EDIT: Ooops...swap NBSI for NRDS...damnit. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Shimizu Taiki Gallente CaeIum Incognitum	Posted - 2010.01.08 18:33:00 - [152] Just read up all the stuff about Joe, and...... damn, if anyone deserves this, it's him. Keep up the good work guys, if only there were more like you ensuring people maintained proper standards and practises. ----------------------- Yea, Tho I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil
Catrina Denaries Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.08 19:32:00 - [153] He went to providence?! :O hurries up to get that wardec going ----- The yarr is strong with this one.
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.08 20:12:00 - [154] Originally by: Catrina Denaries He went to providence?! :O hurries up to get that wardec going Yes indeed. The main reason no new Joe Show(tm) has been showing up is a) I've gone back to work since baby arrived...so me and Joe are currently not really on during each others primes much..and b) I am trying to be nice and politic with the CVA since I don't actually begrudge them for their work. It is their space and their rules after all...so we are trying to work within the framework presented to us. (It certainly helps that Joe has pretty well non-stop been trying to get the IEEE on the KOS list since he got there, baiting us into firing and whatnot. Once we have either made Joe move from that space, or we have dispensed with pleasantries with respect to the providence holders, expect a rather large episode of the Joe Show(tm)) Hopefully the providence holders will realize that Joe is attempting to use them as his personal army to protect him from his well deserved investigation (aka: Providence Holder Meatshield). While I understand the rules of CVA space, I am certain they never quite envisioned this..particular abuse of their hospitality. As far as I can tell, the NRDS policies and policing of CVA space is well intentioned, honorable, and definitely well within the Standards and Practices as published by the IEEE. So there have been inquiries made with respect to the situation. As I have mentioned, the Joe Show(tm) will return once the situation is somewhat resolved with the Providence holders. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Isaac Starstriker Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.08 20:37:00 - [155] My life just got a lot more interesting... --Isaac Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months.... AMAAR VICTOR! "You just can't fix stupid"
Syringe Incura	Posted - 2010.01.08 20:57:00 - [156] Edited by: Syringe on 08/01/2010 20:58:25 Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Hopefully the providence holders will realize that Joe is attempting to use them as his personal army to protect him from his well deserved investigation (aka: Providence Holder Meatshield). It seems to me that you don't fully understand how Providence works. As long as Joe never fires a shot in aggression, they'll back him up without question. Should any of CVAs little low-sec pet corps catch on, they'll whine and CVA will ignore them. Should the pet corps do anything about it, they'll be branded as pirates. I've been messing with them for a long time and they're pretty black and white about things. I've got a couple of my adventures over in that space at eve-pirate. Not nearly as epic or entertaining as the Joe Show tbh though. update: fixed link --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question.
Compleat Bacon	Posted - 2010.01.08 21:00:00 - [157] Originally by: Karadan Kaarwen I've just realised who Joe reminds me of... Comical Ali. For those of you who don't know who Comical Ali was, he was the Joe Phoenix of the Iraqi ministry of information. I didn't think his refusal to acknowledge reality could be paralleled but then i started playing Eve and read all about Joe.. Actually, I think you do Comical Ali a serious disservice. Ali was clearly making the best of a bad situation at the time. Ministry of Information in wartime is always a propaganda machine. He had to say something, and if it wasn't Iraqi positive, he wouldn't have survived. Franking, he must be living somewhere today, and amazed that he made it through that incredible situation.
Loqiel Caldari Legio Fortunae	Posted - 2010.01.08 21:10:00 - [158] Originally by: Compleat Bacon Originally by: Karadan Kaarwen I've just realised who Joe reminds me of... Comical Ali. For those of you who don't know who Comical Ali was, he was the Joe Phoenix of the Iraqi ministry of information. I didn't think his refusal to acknowledge reality could be paralleled but then i started playing Eve and read all about Joe.. Actually, I think you do Comical Ali a serious disservice. Ali was clearly making the best of a bad situation at the time. Ministry of Information in wartime is always a propaganda machine. He had to say something, and if it wasn't Iraqi positive, he wouldn't have survived. Franking, he must be living somewhere today, and amazed that he made it through that incredible situation. He writes the dialogue for the Windows guy in those Mac commercials.
Ancy Denaries Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.09 09:57:00 - [159] I can of course not swear upon this, but as far as I know, a war would be considered "personal issues" and not interfered in by the CVA, but can't really be sure. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Personal Killboard
Fifinella Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.09 13:34:00 - [160] Originally by: Ancy Denaries I can of course not swear upon this, but as far as I know, a war would be considered "personal issues" and not interfered in by the CVA, but can't really be sure. Nope, hunting wartargets in Providence without CVA approval is one of the things specifically forbidden.
W1ckd Munch	Posted - 2010.01.09 22:14:00 - [161] Noobs should avoid the IC like a plague. tl;dr Noob joins IC, runs missions solo in hisec while his CEO hides in Provi, undocks with a WT in system and seen loitering outside of station, and loses his Raven. Zed, clearly Joe is not teaching his recruits very good standards or practices. Obviously this is a result of Joe's preoccupation with finding a good rock to hide under in Providence, and a resultant dereliction of his duties as CEO. I recommend continuing the investigation into Joe's failure as a CEO until this abomination of leadership is rectified.
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.10 03:52:00 - [162] New Joe Show(tm): The Providence Edition. Its not as amusing as I thought it might be, but there it is. TL;DR: Joe thinks he's safe in CVA space. Joe threatens folks with the dreaded KOS list! Joe dies, screaming for folks to fleet up with him to save him. (The only person who fleeted up with him was someone from Hydra Reloaded who was in local). Even after shooting Joe till death...nobody fires on the IEEE yet. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2010.01.10 04:08:00 - [163] I liked it. One of the better ones imo.
Isaac Starstriker Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.10 04:26:00 - [164] Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 10/01/2010 04:26:45 Joe ordering us Provi residents around?! Psh, no thank you. He'll find out just how un-orderable we are. --Isaac Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months.... AMAAR VICTOR! "You just can't fix stupid"
Exaduss Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.10 08:43:00 - [165] Also note that Joe claims to hold a POS. Should anyone come forward with information on the location of said mythical beast, I will gladly contract them one mildly disfigured Joe Phoenix corpse. It bears several authentic Joe ShowÖ bullet holes. P.S. Think of all the paperwork you will save! Multiple forests worth of paper. Be eco-friendly. -- --
AterraX Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.10 12:21:00 - [166] So the "mighty" Joe ("soon" the be alliance leader chough) runs of to CVA space and try and hide behind thir skirts like a little (smacktalking) scared boy? This is to funny! Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :)
lady remorseless	Posted - 2010.01.10 15:23:00 - [167] http://kor.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5506527 confirming joe thought he was safe fleeting up with us in providence
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2010.01.10 17:06:00 - [168] Originally by: W1ckd Munch Noobs should avoid the IC like a plague. That's the most failfit Raven I've ever seen. But that's about par for the course for the people Joe manages to sucker into joining his corp... ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!
AterraX Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.10 18:10:00 - [169] Edited by: AterraX on 10/01/2010 18:10:15 Originally by: w1ldt4ngent Originally by: W1ckd Munch Noobs should avoid the IC like a plague. That's the most failfit Raven I've ever seen. But that's about par for the course for the people Joe manages to sucker into joining his corp... Have you looked at Joe's fittings for all his Drake losses? Seems he can only fit a drake one way..and not very good. Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :)
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2010.01.10 18:27:00 - [170] Originally by: AterraX Edited by: AterraX on 10/01/2010 18:10:15 Have you looked at Joe's fittings for all his Drake losses? Seems he can only fit a drake one way..and not very good. Rare is the time Joe undocks in anything with less than 2 warp core stabs ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.10 23:24:00 - [171] New episode of The Joe Show(tm). Hot off the presses... TL;DR: Joe starts his own investigation into reimbursement for losses he has been receiving recently in Providence. Joe accuses the IEEE of buying isk. The IEEE bribes IC members to leave! Obviously. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Dracoknight Strategic Syndicate Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.01.10 23:50:00 - [172] Hmm, it seems to me that Joe is trying to make Zedrik falsely admit into buying isk through illegal methods, and then use it against him or something... So far i am aware, isnt that waste of CCP resources to fasely report someone for nothing? ____________________ I wish my Thorax could use missiles...
Ancy Denaries Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:46:00 - [173] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne New episode of The Joe Show(tm). Hot off the presses... TL;DR: Joe starts his own investigation into reimbursement for losses he has been receiving recently in Providence. Joe accuses the IEEE of buying isk. The IEEE bribes IC members to leave! Obviously. "Welcome to the Joe ShowÖ: Where Joe cannot win by riding his high moral horse, so he copycats his enemy." ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Personal Killboard
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:21:00 - [174] This just keeps getting better... I mean... we've all been saying that for 4 months now, but Joe is truly the gift (or curse, depending how you look at it) that keeps on giving. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:21:00 - [175] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Zedrik Cayne New episode of The Joe Show(tm). Hot off the presses... TL;DR: Joe starts his own investigation into reimbursement for losses he has been receiving recently in Providence. Joe accuses the IEEE of buying isk. The IEEE bribes IC members to leave! Obviously. "Welcome to the Joe ShowÖ: Where Joe cannot win by riding his high moral horse, so he copycats his enemy." And does it so badly. You would figure after 4 months he might have picked something up... -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:24:00 - [176] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne New episode of The Joe Show(tm). Hot off the presses... TL;DR: Joe starts his own investigation into reimbursement for losses he has been receiving recently in Providence. Joe accuses the IEEE of buying isk. The IEEE bribes IC members to leave! Obviously. Ah, right. >.> <.< Wait, what? Nobody expects the Commonwealth Inquisition?
Isaac Starstriker Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:40:00 - [177] Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 11/01/2010 06:40:34 Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Zedrik Cayne New episode of The Joe Show(tm). Hot off the presses... TL;DR: Joe starts his own investigation into reimbursement for losses he has been receiving recently in Providence. Joe accuses the IEEE of buying isk. The IEEE bribes IC members to leave! Obviously. "Welcome to the Joe ShowÖ: Where Joe cannot win by riding his high moral horse, so he copycats his enemy." And does it so badly. You would figure after 4 months he might have picked something up... Wow...all I have to say, the greatest thing Joe did was move to Providence. He now has a moral high-horse (lol). His ego truly knows no bounds. Wait till he gets his ass killed by numerous Reds that are out here. I can't WAIT to hear his screaming about that. Or the random neut that warps in on top of him, oh that'll be a scream. Please Joe, continue your "investigation". I can't wait to hear the fruits of your own labor. Who knows? He might find himself guilty. One can only pray... --Isaac Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months.... AMAAR VICTOR! "You just can't fix stupid"
Lyris Nairn Caldari Hashimoto Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.11 07:03:00 - [178] Not that I figure anyone who frequently reads this thread would care, but I do believe the IEEE's pursuit of Joe Phoenix and his corpmates in Providence is against the posted CVA rules and will eventually get the IEEE set to KOS status if compensation and apologies are not offered for the kills that are done. Good read. Loving it.
Ancy Denaries Forever Unbound	Posted - 2010.01.11 08:36:00 - [179] Originally by: Lyris Nairn Not that I figure anyone who frequently reads this thread would care, but I do believe the IEEE's pursuit of Joe Phoenix and his corpmates in Providence is against the posted CVA rules and will eventually get the IEEE set to KOS status if compensation and apologies are not offered for the kills that are done. Possibly yes, but mostly because CVA is on a "no engagement" basis, regardless of wars. I personally think they should go with a "War declarations is every corporation's/alliance personal business" policy instead. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Personal Killboard
Lyris Nairn Caldari Hashimoto Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.11 08:51:00 - [180] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Lyris Nairn Not that I figure anyone who frequently reads this thread would care, but I do believe the IEEE's pursuit of Joe Phoenix and his corpmates in Providence is against the posted CVA rules and will eventually get the IEEE set to KOS status if compensation and apologies are not offered for the kills that are done. Possibly yes, but mostly because CVA is on a "no engagement" basis, regardless of wars. I personally think they should go with a "War declarations is every corporation's/alliance personal business" policy instead. With respect to your page 5 snipe, what you (or anyone else) thinks CVA (or any other entity) should or should not do has very little relevance to what it actually does. I just noticed in the chat logs that Zedrik either was or was pretending to be unaware of the posted CVA rules (and the fact that Joe, for all his pig-headed stupidity, seems to be legitimately following them). I was just trying to be helpful by pointing out what I believe to be the way things are; forgive me, but I'd prefer to avoid getting into a discussion of the way things should be: it would take way too long, and everyone has their own opinions so it's doubtful anything would come of it. Good luck with your investigations, Zedrik!

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