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Lifewire	Posted - 2004.11.17 11:54:00 - [1] How about a DEV-blog about how the DEVs want us pirates to be. I pirate since i started the game. I did everything that Concord does not allow and it¦s a question of roleplay for me do exactly what is not allowed by the "virtul law". I compare the pirate career in EVE to the thief career in fantasy games. But i miss the place we are considered to operate. 1.0-0.5 Nobody wants us pirates there. If we do it people get really upset and Devs anchor new sentry guns or make the sentry guns shieldboost the prey. 0.4-0.1 Aunenen...looks like we are not considered to gatecamp. Killing miners in the belts doesnt make any sence since they drop only a CPU and 5 miner IIs. 0.0 Piracy in 0.0 is no crime and pirates are simply warriors. I don¦t want to play the warrior career. I want to pirate like described on the EVE sell package. I am not interested in alliance blobwarfare. I love dirty kills and steal someone others items. Only ISK that are stolen make me happy. DEVs, should we retire and let you alone with your helpless try do give the game some roleplaying and non-NPC-action? What are the plans, DEVs? Will the pirate career get fixed? Where am i considered to pirate? 0.0? You know real roleplaying pirates want sec. hits. I am proud of having a red square and i dont want to fire at gates in 0.0 to lower my sec status! I also want to get -10000! Why does it stop -10??? Every n00b pirate has -10. I want to have -10000!
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.11.17 11:54:00 - [2] How about a DEV-blog about how the DEVs want us pirates to be. I pirate since i started the game. I did everything that Concord does not allow and it¦s a question of roleplay for me do exactly what is not allowed by the "virtul law". I compare the pirate career in EVE to the thief career in fantasy games. But i miss the place we are considered to operate. 1.0-0.5 Nobody wants us pirates there. If we do it people get really upset and Devs anchor new sentry guns or make the sentry guns shieldboost the prey. 0.4-0.1 Aunenen...looks like we are not considered to gatecamp. Killing miners in the belts doesnt make any sence since they drop only a CPU and 5 miner IIs. 0.0 Piracy in 0.0 is no crime and pirates are simply warriors. I don¦t want to play the warrior career. I want to pirate like described on the EVE sell package. I am not interested in alliance blobwarfare. I love dirty kills and steal someone others items. Only ISK that are stolen make me happy. DEVs, should we retire and let you alone with your helpless try do give the game some roleplaying and non-NPC-action? What are the plans, DEVs? Will the pirate career get fixed? Where am i considered to pirate? 0.0? You know real roleplaying pirates want sec. hits. I am proud of having a red square and i dont want to fire at gates in 0.0 to lower my sec status! I also want to get -10000! Why does it stop -10??? Every n00b pirate has -10. I want to have -10000!
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:19:00 - [3] Ye I agree with you. However it is still possible to pirate in 0.0 but not as exciting. CCP are trying to kill off piracy and manipulate how we should play in there opinion We are cursed men
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:19:00 - [4] Ye I agree with you. However it is still possible to pirate in 0.0 but not as exciting. CCP are trying to kill off piracy and manipulate how we should play in there opinion We are cursed men
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:20:00 - [5] I'll poke around for some answers, hopefully I can share them with you I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:20:00 - [6] I'll poke around for some answers, hopefully I can share them with you I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
dabster	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Baconjoe Ye I agree with you. However it is still possible to pirate in 0.0 but not as exciting. CCP are trying to kill off piracy and manipulate how we should play in there opinion Well thats the thing, there really is no such thing as piracy in 0.0, it is lawless and thus anything is ALLOWED. Pirates want to do ILLEGAL things, not legal. So I 100% agree with Lifewire there, 0.0 is for 'warriors', 0.1-0.4 is for pirates. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Baconjoe Ye I agree with you. However it is still possible to pirate in 0.0 but not as exciting. CCP are trying to kill off piracy and manipulate how we should play in there opinion Well thats the thing, there really is no such thing as piracy in 0.0, it is lawless and thus anything is ALLOWED. Pirates want to do ILLEGAL things, not legal. So I 100% agree with Lifewire there, 0.0 is for 'warriors', 0.1-0.4 is for pirates. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:25:00 - [9] Man no wonder you pirates complain you never make any money. Whats wrong with killing random people in 0.0? I do it and today killed a cruiser that had around 30-40 mil in minerals, T2 components and BP's (though nearly half of that was destroyed in the explosion) Of course in empire space I am a good little carebear and don't look funny at CONCORD ships incase they decide to pwn me ;) If CCP wants to give the pirates some real niche in EVE, then there needs to be profitable trade routes that run through low sec empire. Someone a few weeks back said empire space used to have low sec areas where the different empires meet. I think they should bring this back and put some NPC's in there that issue good buy and sell orders for trade goods. There would be no need to remove the highways or make it harder to move between empire space. Just make areas of the beaten track profitable for traders and pirates. --------------------------------------------------
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:25:00 - [10] Man no wonder you pirates complain you never make any money. Whats wrong with killing random people in 0.0? I do it and today killed a cruiser that had around 30-40 mil in minerals, T2 components and BP's (though nearly half of that was destroyed in the explosion) Of course in empire space I am a good little carebear and don't look funny at CONCORD ships incase they decide to pwn me ;) If CCP wants to give the pirates some real niche in EVE, then there needs to be profitable trade routes that run through low sec empire. Someone a few weeks back said empire space used to have low sec areas where the different empires meet. I think they should bring this back and put some NPC's in there that issue good buy and sell orders for trade goods. There would be no need to remove the highways or make it harder to move between empire space. Just make areas of the beaten track profitable for traders and pirates. --------------------------------------------------

Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:26:00 - [11] I love dirty kills and steal someone others items. Only ISK that are stolen make me happy. He said piracy to him is stealing. which is still possible We are cursed men
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:26:00 - [12] I love dirty kills and steal someone others items. Only ISK that are stolen make me happy. He said piracy to him is stealing. which is still possible We are cursed men
Necronomicon	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:31:00 - [13] I dont think anyone has an issue with career pirates who hold the terminology of piracy to its true meaning. It is the mindless Gankers (see murderers) that most ppl take exception to. For instance, if I am on a 0.4 belt in my crow, and a Stilleto warps in, locks/jams/scrambles me, and demands isk, I look at the probability of survival (in this instance - none) look at my ship worth, and the ransom asked, and make a decision (in this case, paid thankyou very much) and my ship was released as per the agreement. All this equals a good career Pirate who held her honour ( I did not invoke Parlay on that occasion) 1.0-0.5 If you are a bad bad man, and can outrun da law, then best of luck to you; you sure as heck aint gonna have time to stop, pirate someone and get away again, if you can then there is a fault in the coding. 0.4-0.1 Here I refer to my personal opinions between Pirates and Murderers, there is a difference, a Pirate is there to make money, a murderer is there to satisfy his blood lust. Pirates who are able to operate withing 'the code' should be allowed to operate their living in any sector of space; >0.4 means that their job is a bit easier, but not a piece of cake by any means. 0.0 I agree, where there is no law, there cannot be a distinction between right or wrong, hence 'Piracy' would more commonly refer to unwanted pilots in a region....bandits...militia...rebels All in all, I would see it as a sad day if CCP made it so hard for the 'proper' pirate in this game, that they quit. Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Necronomicon	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:31:00 - [14] I dont think anyone has an issue with career pirates who hold the terminology of piracy to its true meaning. It is the mindless Gankers (see murderers) that most ppl take exception to. For instance, if I am on a 0.4 belt in my crow, and a Stilleto warps in, locks/jams/scrambles me, and demands isk, I look at the probability of survival (in this instance - none) look at my ship worth, and the ransom asked, and make a decision (in this case, paid thankyou very much) and my ship was released as per the agreement. All this equals a good career Pirate who held her honour ( I did not invoke Parlay on that occasion) 1.0-0.5 If you are a bad bad man, and can outrun da law, then best of luck to you; you sure as heck aint gonna have time to stop, pirate someone and get away again, if you can then there is a fault in the coding. 0.4-0.1 Here I refer to my personal opinions between Pirates and Murderers, there is a difference, a Pirate is there to make money, a murderer is there to satisfy his blood lust. Pirates who are able to operate withing 'the code' should be allowed to operate their living in any sector of space; >0.4 means that their job is a bit easier, but not a piece of cake by any means. 0.0 I agree, where there is no law, there cannot be a distinction between right or wrong, hence 'Piracy' would more commonly refer to unwanted pilots in a region....bandits...militia...rebels All in all, I would see it as a sad day if CCP made it so hard for the 'proper' pirate in this game, that they quit. Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:39:00 - [15] Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:39:00 - [16] Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:44:00 - [18] Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Wanna fly with me?
AshrakTheWhite	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:48:00 - [19] yeah well killing things in 1.0 is pretty proffitable apparently :D
AshrakTheWhite	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:48:00 - [20] yeah well killing things in 1.0 is pretty proffitable apparently :D

Dian Cecht	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Nafri waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me There is nothing wrong with the 15minute timer. Its the fact that the sentries can attack you. Let the Pirates do their job I say.. You have to go all the way down to 0.0 to get blow up these days!
Dian Cecht	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [22] Originally by: Nafri waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me There is nothing wrong with the 15minute timer. Its the fact that the sentries can attack you. Let the Pirates do their job I say.. You have to go all the way down to 0.0 to get blow up these days!
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Cant help you with your dial up connection, or the constant rudeness of players. You can petition them for using foul language or try to ignore local and autoreject any conversations. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Cant help you with your dial up connection, or the constant rudeness of players. You can petition them for using foul language or try to ignore local and autoreject any conversations. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [25] Quote: Man no wonder you pirates complain you never make any money I don¦t complain about making no ISK. I have tons of ISK and each single ISK was stolen. I got rich with piracy. But i dont want to end like the m0o-guys in an alliance blob, watching bubbles or jumpgates for hours. I want to hunt the prey and i want to be a criminal character. Since it¦s a game, crimes are a funny part of the game. But it¦s absolutly normal to blow up any strangers ship in 0.0. I was forced to be a warrior in 0.0. But i decided to play the pirate career and not the alliance warrior career long before all these carebears where crying about us pirates and the game was changed. I accept beeing forced into 0.0 by Concord, i love the freedom in 0.0. But the criminal career is bugged since i get no sec. hits for killing other people and stealing their items. I am no pirate in 0.0, i am forced to be a "warrior" character. That¦s anoying!
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:54:00 - [26] Quote: Man no wonder you pirates complain you never make any money I don¦t complain about making no ISK. I have tons of ISK and each single ISK was stolen. I got rich with piracy. But i dont want to end like the m0o-guys in an alliance blob, watching bubbles or jumpgates for hours. I want to hunt the prey and i want to be a criminal character. Since it¦s a game, crimes are a funny part of the game. But it¦s absolutly normal to blow up any strangers ship in 0.0. I was forced to be a warrior in 0.0. But i decided to play the pirate career and not the alliance warrior career long before all these carebears where crying about us pirates and the game was changed. I accept beeing forced into 0.0 by Concord, i love the freedom in 0.0. But the criminal career is bugged since i get no sec. hits for killing other people and stealing their items. I am no pirate in 0.0, i am forced to be a "warrior" character. That¦s anoying!
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:59:00 - [27] Quote: 0.4-0.1 Aunenen...looks like we are not considered to gatecamp. why do you say that? it is very well possible to gate camp in <.4 and make good isk too. you just have to find a good busy choke point and shut it down, kill everything that passes by without a blue square. Hop in a sentry-tanked-Battleship and shoot at anything thats moves thats what me and my old corp used to do. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.11.17 12:59:00 - [28] Quote: 0.4-0.1 Aunenen...looks like we are not considered to gatecamp. why do you say that? it is very well possible to gate camp in <.4 and make good isk too. you just have to find a good busy choke point and shut it down, kill everything that passes by without a blue square. Hop in a sentry-tanked-Battleship and shoot at anything thats moves thats what me and my old corp used to do. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.17 13:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Cant help you with your dial up connection, or the constant rudeness of players. You can petition them for using foul language or try to ignore local and autoreject any conversations. but CCP could help with the 15min timer Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.17 13:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Eris Discordia Pirates can continue their activities in 0.4- 0.1 ( as long as you do it without using any bugs in the system or code) Yarr, harr and rampage mateys [) its so boring, and people are sooo rude in empire when thy meet pirates waiting 15mins when you play with dial up is a major grief imho, and a RL money sink for me Cant help you with your dial up connection, or the constant rudeness of players. You can petition them for using foul language or try to ignore local and autoreject any conversations. but CCP could help with the 15min timer Wanna fly with me?



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