Yes FTP must be bad.

As shown by this.

World of Tanks holds a Guinness World Record in the category of Most Players Online Simultaneously on one MMO Server,

i wouldnt disagree that it isnt an mmo. thats why i said that it is just a basic 15 v 15 deathmatch... its not even a good game.

the point is there is a huge potential out there, that eve just isnt realising.

im pretty sure that any game can handle 1 ship ganking a newbie ship.

your big battles with thousands of players, i take it that means that what, a quarter of all online people are in your battle?

i just made a wild stab at that, with a little factoring station only accounts, dual accounts etc.

I read something from Yttabium's lastdev blog :

"Covetor/hulk: Basically made for group operations when players have [...] protection to back them up."

That shows the whole problem of high sec mining : Explain to me how you can protect against someone you can't attack until he does, and if he does he instantly kill your ship.

Suicide ganking is safe, thanks to CONCORD.

That doesn't make any sense :p

Tank them?

Of course ! Miners easily tank suicide gankers, that's why mineral prices are not raising, nor exhumer and mining barges prices.

Any other idea ?

what version of eve are you playing because mine has half of your 45k online.

obviously your big battles of thousands of players are delivering so much that the population doubled since my last post.

no **** sherlock.

that is the point.

its ganking newbies and mining vessels for 20 hours of the day.

yeah i cant say i get shot at much while i am warping either. whats your point?

this is about ganking newbies and other miners in high sec, podding them, can flipping, bumping into them and generally being **** to people so they dont want to play again. which happens a whole lot more than your "big battles with thousands of players" lol

id like to know how many people quit before ever seeing what you say eve delivers on

You cannot profitably gank a properly tanked Hulk.


EDIT: And you can't gank a properly attentive and prepared miner at all.

a lot of people seem more worried about the influence my mining will have on the market than me being able to waste a few isk in actual pvp.

podding in high sec, im not sure what this acheives other than making people train slower. probably the worst mechanic i have ever seen in any game. thats all it is, just pod to make people level up slower. this is so backwards i really cannot describe it.

It is damn near impossible to stop a pod in high sec if the player is paying attention.

you should probably ask the -10 security griefer who has been playing for more than half a year doing this sort of thing to newbies, how he does it.

i would give you his name but i feel that would just give him glory.

Yes, this is true. Ever since CCP removed smartbombs pods have become the I WIN button of Eve.

i already petitioned, they call it pvp. i was in 0.5 asteroid belt. so i guess that makes it all fine.

if this is considered player vs player by CCP and everyone else then really, do those big battles really exist or is it just this kind of slimey one sided gank the guy with one tenth of the skills you have, with your multiple accounts, pod him so he gets skills even slower, robs him of all his value, even though he doesnt even have a gun on his ship. heh. this part is just not my taste of pvp i guess.

no i was mining in high security with my +4 implants in.

so i get to fight some npc pirates while i mine.

so i am not mining out starter system belts.

so i am able to anchor my cans.

so i can train up my skills fast and get isk to buy a proper pvp ship. and have money to lose trying to pvp.

if this is considered player vs player by CCP and everyone else then really, do those big battles really exist or is it just this kind of slimey one sided gank the guy with one tenth of the skills you have, with your multiple accounts, pod him so he gets skills even slower, robs him of all his value, even though he doesnt even have a gun on his ship. heh. this part is just not my taste of pvp i guess.

next youre going to say that i need a jump clone to mine in high sec without implants in?

ie stay logged out to train fastest........ how backwards is this game mechanic.

gief me training skills? what were they like, was it nice to train up and do pvp at the same time?