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Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 8	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:25:00 - [121] - Quote Ghost Xray wrote: Reech Yvormes wrote: niche in that killing unarmed pods to reduce newbies skill up time is considered pvp and competition. ;) I know what's he's trying to say: Pods should drop implants as well. I mean, I think podding someone and taking the corpse back to a station for some one on one fun is a good enough reason, but if that's not your thing there should be other rewards. +1 for that Reech I always assumed that the trauma and burning, followed by freezing destroyed em. If nothing else, the switch between the extreme environments would create fractures followed by being incased in crystalization.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:29:00 - [122] - Quote im unsubbed and not logging in, im about to uninstall it, they could make it so you can grief in starter systems, pod them and reset newbies skills back to zero and i really wouldnt care now. im sure it will attract a lot more of those quality people you like so much.
Dave stark Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 84	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:30:00 - [123] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: im unsubbed and not logging in, im about to uninstall it, they could make it so you can grief in starter systems, pod them and reset newbies skills back to zero and i really wouldnt care now. im sure it will attract a lot more of those quality people you like so much. clearly you do care, or you wouldn't still be posting. jus' sayin'.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:33:00 - [124] - Quote why would i care if they make it worse for newbies to start up by enticing more podding? it simply would confirm my choice to unsub was right. you dont actually want players to be able to go to low of null sec for some reason, what is it some market thing, you dont want new players?
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 8	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:33:00 - [125] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: im unsubbed and not logging in, im about to uninstall it, they could make it so you can grief in starter systems, pod them and reset newbies skills back to zero and i really wouldnt care now. im sure it will attract a lot more of those quality people you like so much. Many moons ago, there was the chinese bot community, who would pump out alts non-stop to move goods from system to system, sometimes one impant at a time, in itereons. They were frequently set upon by packs of rabid savages, that'd pod them over and over and over. No matter how often they came. In effect, griefing "Newbies" and setting them back to zero. Man I miss those implants.
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 8	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:34:00 - [126] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: why would i care if they make it worse for newbies to start up by enticing more podding in high sec? it simply would confirm my choice to unsub was right. you dont actually want players to be able to go to low of null sec for some reason, what is it some market thing, you dont want new players? I -live- in lowsec. I want as many people as possible to join me. It's so lonely down here.
Dave stark Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 84	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:36:00 - [127] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: why would i care if they make it worse for newbies to start up by enticing more podding in high sec? it simply would confirm my choice to unsub was right. you dont actually want players to be able to go to low of null sec for some reason, what is it some market thing, you dont want new players? no, you think we don't want new players in low/null.
baltec1 1555	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:44:00 - [128] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: why would i care if they make it worse for newbies to start up by enticing more podding in high sec? it simply would confirm my choice to unsub was right. you dont actually want players to be able to go to low or null sec for some reason, what is it some market thing, you dont want new players? Last night I was in fleet with several players barely a week old in 0.0 gearing up for war. We like nubs who want to learn, who like to take part in things. They are often the best tackle as the have no fear. These people can win fights for us. You however are not one of these people. You have not learned from your mistakes and you would rather give up than face a challange. Why would I want to take you into 0.0 wars?
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 10:50:00 - [129] - Quote because i was atleast trying to support myself monetary wise, and planning for the future training wise, since i am actually subscribed and not just a trial player? maybe
baltec1 1555	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:18:00 - [130] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: because i was atleast trying to support myself monetary wise, and planning for the future training wise, since i am actually subscribed and not just a trial player? maybe maybe not, that could mean nothing to you. you want expendable noobs right now because thats more use to you, right now? but someone who is serious about actually making a difference, you dont want them? they may be happy for everyone to just hand **** out and do everything for them and wipe their arse for them but i atleast like to think i am playing my character, at some point. like making my own isk. if thats the people you want. why even subscribe at all. why not just make throw away emails and only play it for 2 weeks. its you and everyone else who seems to set upon making it as difficult for people in high sec to actually do this. and i wonder why. You make it difficult for yourselves.

Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 23	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:23:00 - [131] - Quote SAD FACE ROFL i love mining, including the chance to be ganked, otherwise it wouldn't have any form of excitement at all. my only gripe with mining is low sec and nullsec mineral values aren't worth much more than hisec and this really leaves no incentive for hisec miners to leave hisec. currently arkonor while more valuable than veldspar, isn't worth the extra logistics and danger of non-hisec space. bistot and crokite are only marginally better than pyroxeres or scordite. this doesn't make any sense at all there's nothing wrong with being a carebear, unless you demand complete risk free activity in which case eve is not for you so gtfo.
Ghost Xray Hedion University Amarr Empire 110	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:28:00 - [132] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: because i was atleast trying to support myself monetary wise, and planning for the future training wise, since i am actually subscribed and not just a trial player? maybe maybe not, that could mean nothing to you. you want expendable noobs right now because thats more use to you, right now? but someone who is serious about actually making a difference, you dont want them? they may be happy for everyone to just hand **** out and do everything for them and wipe their arse for them but i atleast like to think i am playing my character, at some point. like making my own isk. if thats the people you want. why even subscribe at all. why not just make throw away emails and only play it for 2 weeks. its you and everyone else who seems to set upon making it as difficult for people in high sec to actually do this. and i wonder why. Dude, just admit you're butthurt about losing 100mil in implants. This isn't about kiiling nubs or picking on new kids. It's about how you overspent on implants and got burned. It happens to everyone at least once in their EvE life, if not lots of times. It's part of learning about cost/benefit of things and finding a right balance. Quit trying to blame your failings and bad decision making on other people.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:35:00 - [133] - Quote im glad i was butthurt so soon in my account that i could just close the sub and realise that this game is not for me at all. thank you for that mr griefer. i do owe you for that, i suppose.
Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 24	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:42:00 - [134] - Quote 3% implants cheap and effective - ADAPT. you won't get any "sympathy unsubs" btw i've seen you crying about this on other threads. i find this hilarious.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:43:00 - [135] - Quote yeah this is more entertaining than eve itself.
Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 24	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:45:00 - [136] - Quote i do enjoy the forum community. it's interesting how people are so helpful on the forums and yet so cutt-throat in the game.
Ghost Xray Hedion University Amarr Empire 110	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:48:00 - [137] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: CCP thanks you for keeping eve niche griefer mmo and only keep quality players. Here here!! Begone low quality players whose mothers are hamsters and whose fathers smelt of elderberries.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.27 11:54:00 - [138] - Quote i was going to put pvp implants in my jump clone but i didnt get that far.
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 9	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:05:00 - [139] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: i was going to put pvp implants in my jump clone but i didnt get that far. im not sure why you would do it to a miner though, just after youve blown their ship up. i guess that isnt enough reward for the kill? are you guys happy that podding can happen in high sec? just curious. is there an underlying need to pod in high sec? or a need to pod a miner, in high sec? Sometimes, it's all about what they say afterwards. I generally only pod out of tactical need or because I want to express how serious I was about being paid my thirty silver.
betoli Ketogenic Killzone 34	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:09:00 - [140] - Quote Pipa Porto wrote: betoli wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Missioning for profit requires dealing with LP stores, [] warping through systems, dealing with triggers, etc. Mining involves dragging a stack of ore to another window once every 2-4 minutes, then selling the ore once a week or so. LP can be a now and again thing, as can dealing with a mineral stack ;-) But really give the miners a more adventurous rewarding (but with more risk) option. Low/Null/WH space is right over there for you. Get the risk/reward balance right for a range of playstyles and thats fine.

Ghost Xray Hedion University Amarr Empire 110	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:12:00 - [141] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: i was going to put pvp implants in my jump clone but i didnt get that far. im not sure why you would do it to a miner though, just after youve blown their ship up. i guess that isnt enough reward for the kill? are you guys happy that podding can happen in high sec? just curious. is there an underlying need to pod in high sec? or a need to pod a miner, in high sec? Here's one reason that I like: "To weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to play in my beloved EvE." Podding is part of this game and crying about it wont change anything.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:22:00 - [142] - Quote yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it.
Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 25	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:32:00 - [143] - Quote the very thing you are upset about happens to be the appeal of this game. hi-sec by eve standards is very safe, "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" applies to implants as well. you keep acting as if everytime someone gets a ship popped or podded they unsub. no, they just put on their big boy pants, get over it and learn from their mistakes.
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 10	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:35:00 - [144] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why. because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock. I still think you're trolling.
Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 25	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:38:00 - [145] - Quote Tobias Durandal wrote: I still think you're trolling.
Reech Yvormes Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:41:00 - [146] - Quote maybe you should just get the moderators to only leave posts that are positive feedback so you dont feel forced to read my "troll" feedback. or you could just revise your definition of the word troll.
Dave stark Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 84	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:43:00 - [147] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock. no. that's utter twaddle and you know it. how long does it take to train a destroyer and a salvager? the same amount of time it takes to finish the tutorial. when i'm in null outside the station i'll quite frequently see a can with a bookmark to a load of wrecks ready for salvage. they're left there for the newer players to take so they can make cash with minimal skills while training whatever else they want to be self sufficient in low/null sec. eve is not a game that's here to pick you up when you fall, it's here to kick you unless you get up fast enough. you got kicked, repeatedly, and now we're all enjoying your bleeting.
Breezly Brewin Vril Metaphysics Society 25	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:44:00 - [148] - Quote i'd like to add that in the time i've been posting this thread (3 hours or so) i have made 90m in ice, enough to cover the cost of one of my characters sets of implants. i used my 3rd character to probe scan 4-5 systems in this time as well. thank you troll/crybaby for giving me something to do with the free time.
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:45:00 - [149] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: maybe you should just get the moderators to only leave posts that are positive feedback so you dont feel forced to read my "troll" feedback. or you could just revise your definition of the word troll. Now I'm quite sure of it.
Ghost Xray Hedion University Amarr Empire 111	Posted - 2012.06.27 12:47:00 - [150] - Quote Reech Yvormes wrote: yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why. because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock. How about this for a good reason: You were podded in high-sec because the guy podding you sells implants and business seemed to be slowing down. You don't think it's right that a guy who sells implants can't earn enough to feed his exotic dancers, do you? Or maybe, he's a miner too. And discouraging mining in general will increase his profits. Or maybe his reasons for doing it aren't any of your business. It's YOUR fault for getting podded. You only failed yourself. Learn to take responsibility for your inactions. If you found the experience unpleasant, learn how to avoid it. It's that "learning" part that people like about this game. They don't make it impossible because figuring stuff out is part of the fun I personally like. Quit trying to ruin my game you Goonie!



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