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Amarr knight
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Posted - 2005.03.09 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Amarr knight on 09/03/2005 13:10:41 I dont like to do lvl 4 alone because it takes to much time to finish one(for me). So i usually do lvl 3 and this is my setup:
6 Shock limos siege
1 C5-L Xl shield booster 1 Shield boost Amp 3 hardner (EM, Ther, Kin) 1 sensor booster (named)
5 BCU
I have over 500k SP in engineering, Torp lvl 4 and Caldari BS lvl 4. Why i think this is the best lvl 3 setup, because:
1. The tank is a little weak but more than enough to tank lvl 3 rats. I never had to warp away from the mission to recharge my cap. I could have gone for 2 hardners and change them by rat types but this way i never have to change my setup.
2. I do 677.1 damage per torp and have ROF of 9.99 sec. Advantage.... the killer rof and damage saves me a lot of time and torps as the rats die really fast and takes less torps to kill them; so i take a lot less damage from them. With this setup i have never missed my agent mission bonus.
3. The sensor booster is just to increase my targetting range , this way i never have to move from my location and kill rats upto 100+ km away. In dead space this really helps cause i dont have to move from the accelaration gate.
People might not like this setup, but its proven and very effective for lvl 3 missions. |

Safid Gorbet
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Posted - 2005.03.17 03:50:00 -
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probably done to death by now but here goes.
PvP Set-up
Hi: 6x Named Siege 2x Named Heavy Nos
Med: XL CL-5 SB 3x Hardeners T2 Sensor booster Shield Booster Amp
Low: 3x PDU II's RCU Domination BC
Missions set-up
Hi: 6x Named Siege 2x medium Nos
Medium: XL CL-5 3x Hardeners 100MN AB II Sensor Booster II
Low: 3x PDU II's 2x Ballistic Controls
there is no 100% win set up raven or any other BS. You just have to remember there are no "hero's" in this game get the F*@K out if your going to die. Know your ship and know its limitations. Even with the mission set up anyone who gets caught within 20km is dead with Caldari BS 5 because very few ships are going to out run a CM, No BS's are going to outrun Torps.
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Centauris
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:14:00 -
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A raven setup for lvl 4 mission... High 6 seige launchers (named as they are easy on the cpu) 1 heavy nos (2 if fit) 1 med nos
med xl clarity ward booster (least cpu) 1 shield amp 2 kinetoc and 1 therm hardner (for guristas, swap 1 kinetic for em if you killing something else) 1 cap charger t2 or named
low 5 pdu, t2 ones if skills permit
have also experimented with only 2 hardbners and an extra amp
Dont ARMOUR tank a raven, its stupid, caldari = sheild tank
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2005.03.20 09:20:00 -
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My setup:
HI: 6 Siege 1 Launcher, 2 Heavy Nosferatu MED: C5L Large, 3 Named Hardener, 1 Cap charger, 1 Shield Amp LOW: 5 PDU T2
Planned evolution: changing a PDU with a ballistics, changing Siege launchers with named one. _______________________ DSU Recrute! Corporation PVP FR, nous formons les nouveaux joueurs. Travail salariÚ. Contactez moi ingame. Forums DSU |

Karnivore
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Posted - 2005.03.20 11:32:00 -
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This question is for everyone doing solo lvl 4 missions.
1) What lvl is your torp. and cruise missile skills?
2) What lvl is your Caldari BS skill?
3) Can you do Silence the Informant and Rogue Drone lvl 4 solo?
4) What setups are you using for question 3?
5) Do you prefer to use either torps or cruise missiles or a mix of both for lvl 4 mission?
6) If its a mix how many of each type do you run?
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.03.20 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 20/03/2005 14:16:29
Originally by: Karnivore This question is for everyone doing solo lvl 4 missions.
1) What lvl is your torp. and cruise missile skills?
4
2) What lvl is your Caldari BS skill?
4
3) Can you do Silence the Informant and Rogue Drone lvl 4 solo?
Yes, though the latter can be painful if two Supreme Drone Parasites gang up on me. Trick is to get more than 70km from at least one of the two, then you're fine. Even without an afterburner, Supreme Drone Parasites are slow enough that you can open up the range. Also, choosing the right torpedos for the job is key. For instance, juggernauts (kinetic) for Guristas and inferno (thermal) for Serpentis. For Rogue Drones, I find a combination of 3 launchers mjolnir and 3 launchers bane works best.
4) What setups are you using for question 3?
6 Siege 2 Heavy Nos
1 XL C5L Shield Booster (Clarity Ward works, too) 1 Named EM Active Hardener 1 Thermal Active Hardener 1 Named Kinetic Active Hardener 1 Named Cap Recharger 1 Shield Boost Amplifier
5 Power Diagnostic II's
You could add a second kinetic hardener in place of the EM hardener for most missions, but you'd only get a 10% increase in resistances and have to switch out your setup all the time. Also, sometimes a rat spawns that does a different damage type than the rest of the rats in the group, which is when this can be VERY important.
Trick for missioning in a Raven is to ALWAYS get your nos on an enemy battleship or cruiser if you can. It greatly increases your cap recharge rate and allows you to tank more damage over time. Note that to fit this setup, you must have Engineering, Electronics, and Weapons Upgrades all at 5, and, if you're using a C5L instead of a Clarity Ward, will probably have to use named shield hardeners to get enough CPU to fit everything.
5) Do you prefer to use either torps or cruise missiles or a mix of both for lvl 4 mission?
Torpedos. With Caldari Battleship 4, there's no point in using cruise in most missions - there's almost nothing you can't hit, eventually, and cruise damage is too weak. Even if you can't hit something with torps (a rarity once rats slow down and start orbiting), you can always launch 8 or so med drones or switch out for cruise during the fight.
-Wrayeth
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Brother Tycho
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Posted - 2005.03.21 11:56:00 -
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im useing this for lvl4 missions.
6 standard seiges 2 empty
large Shield Booster 2, 4 hardners for dmg type (for sanshas i use 2 em and 2 therm), 1 shield Amp
4 Diagnostic 2s and 1 BCU
Cheep and easy to use..
Hasnt failed me yet on lvl4 missions but requires that u have high missile and caldari BS skills to get the most outa it..
and if i lose 1 or 2 setup like this who cares..
As for tactics warp in at 60km and head towards a gate, moon or somthing at full speed.
target the nearst few ships/fastest and give them 2 torps each 1 em and 1 kinetic for example launch the em just before the kinetic caus a em will bring down most cruiser shields in 1 hit..
i tend to save the BS's till last cus they stay around 60km when they die u get a bit of time to check out the next wave that spawns and decide if u need to warp ot and let ur cap rise again..
also if ur getting the smackdown put on u and were forced to warp withough placeing a BM so u canwarp back at 60km just dock it will reset there location
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Rizzon
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Posted - 2005.03.21 18:01:00 -
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have no idea how this setup is in action cos I never tested it
What do you think about it?
High 6x Siege
Med 2x L shield booster 2x Shield hardener (EM & Therm) 1x Shield amp(EM, 25%) 1x Shield boost amp
Low 3x PDU 2x Ballistic control system
What do you think about it? It's ment for PvP |

Magnificko
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Posted - 2005.03.22 15:55:00 -
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I have been experimenting with both shield tanking and armour tanking for NPC spawns. To my amazement I have found armour tanking is by far the best method for NPC rat hunting blood raiders (mainly em and therm damage dealers).
The armour tanking setup I use is as follows-
Highs- 5x Siege Launchers fitted with 3xEM, 2xThermal Torps 1x Criuse Launcher fitted with EM Cruise Missiles
Mids- 1xTech II Afterburner (This can be ditched but Im lazy when coming to pick up loot) Rest full of Cap Rechargers (Im using bartons as there is little lost should I get blown up)
Lows- 1xNamed Armour Rep, 2xThermal Armour hardners, 1xEM Armour hardner, 1xPDU Tech II
This setup is relatively cheap and I can tank and kill 2x1.5mill, 4x110k blood spawns with no real effort at all. I have found the shield tanking uses way too much cap for my tastes.
Cheers, Mag
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Rizzon
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Posted - 2005.03.25 12:44:00 -
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Use as many named items as possible High 6 Siege 2 Heavy NOS
Mid 1 Cap recharger T2 1 L shield booster T2 3 Shield hardeners(Everything exept EXP) 1 Shield boost amp
Low 5 PDU T2 or 4 PDU T2 1 BCU
All T2 must be T2 or else you will die Useing the NOS's is also very important
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scruffythedog
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Posted - 2005.04.04 10:40:00 -
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hi guys....been scanning through this Raven setup.....gettin a headache!
upto now, i've been using me apoc for lvl4's...not too bad...just takes a while. I was thinking of getting a Raven as they seem much more suited to these missions and saw a setup using Armor Hardeners.....something i'm used to using... What you think?....good idea...or go with shields?
thanks
Dog

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Badgrisefarm
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Posted - 2005.04.04 11:59:00 -
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for angels rats High 6 Siege zw-4100 or better 2 Heavy NOS e500
Mid 1 L shield booster T2 4 Shield hardeners aktive namet to get low cpu 1 Shield boost amp namet ?
Low 5 PDU T2 or 4 PDU T2 1 BCU
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2005.04.07 08:55:00 -
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I'm thinking about fitting a cloaking module in place of a heavy nosferatu, for PVPing, so I could remove one PDU T2 and put (maybe) a BCU. Do you think this is a good idea? Why? Why not? _______________________ DSU Recrute! Corporation PVP FR, nous formons les nouveaux joueurs. Travail salariÚ. Contactez moi ingame. Forums DSU |

Nadija
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Posted - 2005.04.08 02:19:00 -
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This is my Raven Set-up for Guristas lvl 4 missions:
High: 6 x Shock 'Limos' Siege Launcher 1 x Heavy Diminishing Power Drain 1 x Empty
Med: 1 x Large Shield Booster II 1 x Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Shield Amp 1 x Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Shield Amp 1 x Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation 1 x Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization 1 x Sheild Booster Amplifier I
Low: 1 x Dread Gurtias Ballastic Control System 1 x Multiphasic Bolt Array I 1 x Muon Coil Bolt Array I 1 x Warp Core Stab (Deadspace/Scramblers) or Cross-Linked Bolt Array I 1 x Reactor Control Unit I
I was using 2 of each active harderners... this gave me: 81.2% Kinetic & 75% Thermal Resistance, but this hurt my cap (especailly when trying to tank a bunch of BS)... So I took off 2 Hardeners & replaced them with Dread Shield Amps which gave me: 78.1% Kinetic & 70% Thermal Resistance.
The Heavy NOS does come in handy.. I could fit 2, but I'd rather fit as many BCSs as possible 
The main weakness is the shield booster... I think I might change the tech II large booster for a CL-5, but I dunno If I'll have the CPU.... 
Also before I got hold of that Dread & Muon Coil... I was doin a perfect 666.0 max damage lol... I think I had a Multiphasic, a Cross Linked & 2 normal BCS fitted.... (& trop lvl 4)
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.04.08 02:54:00 -
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Also varying your hardener configuration helps,so if your going up against say a fleet with a bunch of Apoc s and geddons then use 2 Em and a Thermal,if you are going up against other ravens use 2 thermal and a kinetic,just use good intel to get your set ups right and remember to bring lots of FOF crusie missles. I have killed more ships with them then anything else
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2005.04.08 03:42:00 -
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6 segie 2 heavy nos (best u can get for both)
2 large tech 2 SB amp 3 hardners
5 PDU2'
i was able to hold my own aganst a maxed out raven pilot with that and would have won if i hadn't ran outa torps  he had bs 5 and torp 5 while i only had bs 2 and torp 2 
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Nadija
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Posted - 2005.04.09 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Nadija on 09/04/2005 01:37:14
Quote: by Aloysius Knight 2 large tech 2 SB amp 3 hardners
U have 7 med slots on ur Raven?? 
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2005.04.09 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nadija Edited by: Nadija on 09/04/2005 01:37:14
Quote: by Aloysius Knight 2 large tech 2 SB amp 3 hardners
U have 7 med slots on ur Raven?? 
i mean 2 large tech 2 boostes 1 amp 3 hardners happy now?
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Nadija
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Posted - 2005.04.12 00:24:00 -
[199]
lol yeah 
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.04.15 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylona Tso on 15/04/2005 09:34:34 I am not a raven pilot but i have cal BS 4 and torps 4 so I was thinking about this for Sansha NPCing
6 Siege Is, 2 720mm IIs
1 Large SB II, 1 SB amp, 2 Anointed EM Wards, 2 Ditrogonal Barriers
3 named PDU Is, 2 ballistic Is
4 berzerkers, 5 hammerheads
My goal is to make a fast, insured, low risk setup that pwnz. -----
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2005.04.15 09:32:00 -
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For a second I was thinking "wow, why is he posting a scorpion setup", then I saw the math on slots. Personally in the current environment I can't see why your build would replace the incredible awesomeness of Torpage for a pair of guns. I would think that even if grid was a concern the use of cruise launchers, or even rockets! would be preferable to the use of turrets.
What is your reasoning in the use of guns on the raven at the expense of missiles? Am I just missing something patently obvious?
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.04.15 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Borizkova For a second I was thinking "wow, why is he posting a scorpion setup", then I saw the math on slots. Personally in the current environment I can't see why your build would replace the incredible awesomeness of Torpage for a pair of guns. I would think that even if grid was a concern the use of cruise launchers, or even rockets! would be preferable to the use of turrets.
What is your reasoning in the use of guns on the raven at the expense of missiles? Am I just missing something patently obvious?
gaw... mining at 5:30am, for the last 8 hours, yah i did miss 2 sieges there good eye -----
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2005.04.15 09:53:00 -
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I wasn't aware m0o mined... but regardless, Any reasoning on the use of those guns? Were it me I would aim for a smartbomb or two of some sort, mainly due the infeasibility of PD guns overall.
Are you able to get enough damage to make the setup worthwhile? My smartbombs tend to shatter th hordes of cruisers that mob me, much less drones and frigates that invariably pop up. As well as acting as auxilliary missiel defense.
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.04.15 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Borizkova I wasn't aware m0o mined... but regardless, Any reasoning on the use of those guns? Were it me I would aim for a smartbomb or two of some sort, mainly due the infeasibility of PD guns overall.
Are you able to get enough damage to make the setup worthwhile? My smartbombs tend to shatter th hordes of cruisers that mob me, much less drones and frigates that invariably pop up. As well as acting as auxilliary missiel defense.
1) I have no relation to m0o other than the artwork I did for them : http://www.gametek.us/m0ocorp/gallery
2) As an avid projectile user, and for the little PG requirement I find 720mm IIs the best guns in the game. On a geddon I can get very good shots. And this is just a belt hunting setup... nothing fancy so anything that can take 140hp x 2 out on a BS while my torps get them is better than any SB to me. -----
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.04.15 23:30:00 -
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bleh,
after a few heated discussions with a m8... I came to consider the armor tankign meathod for sansha's seem pretty superior.
6 XT-9000s, 1 Heavy NOS, 1 425mm named AC
6 17.25% chargers
1 Large Carapice, 1 Medium Reppy II, 2 Thermal, I em
6 berzerkers -----
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Jonsemann
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Posted - 2005.04.16 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Black January Are there any armor tanking Raven pilots watching this thread that want to share their setup?
It might solve this problem we're having 
Armor tanking ravens? :O thats like ****ing in the Shower!
shame on u!
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Shrak
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:58:00 -
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Now it seems that they have taken off the bonus that you got for training any BS skill to max or atleast I can not see this anymore when I go to Show info on my BS skill. Am I wrong or are thay messing our BS skill up?
Best Regards Shrak
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2005.04.17 14:52:00 -
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No, you can see the bonus at the description of the battleship, not on the skill.... Always was that way.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.04.17 20:32:00 -
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Now that you can jam NPCs here's a fun setup for 0.0 NPC rat hunting. It's risky, so don't use it unless you can afford to lose it. I wouldn't use this on lvl 4 missions since there are usually far too many rats to reliably jam.
Hi: 6x Siege, 2x Med Nos Mid: 6x Racial Jammers Low: Med Armor Rep II, 4x Ballistic Controls
The Medium Armor rep is there for the times when all 6 jammers on one bs won't jam it. I've tried it out on several Serpentis spawns, dual 500k, dual 750k, 750k with 4 cruisers, etc. and it works pretty well. Of course there is a low probability that all the jammers won't work for several cycles and you will either have to warp out or lose your ship.
Also, don't use the jammers on autorepeat. ````````````` _ |\_ ````````````` \` oo\ ````````_____/ =__Y= `````` /` `````` ) `_``` / ` , ``` \/\_.(\_/) ((____| `` )_--\ \_-`(x.x) `------'`------` `--` (> <) Kitty pwns Bunny! |

karstengitte
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Posted - 2005.04.27 13:21:00 -
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Why you all got armor repairs on... i got my raven shield tanked atm 8000 shield points and did a lvl4 mission yesterday with 2 ravens in it didnt get my shield under 50%...... so why use armor stuff when you dont need it...
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